2023-03-22 PPS School Board Intergovernmental Committee/Facilities and Operations Committee Meeting
District | Portland Public Schools |
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Date | 2023-03-22 |
Time | 13:00:00 |
Venue | PESC Windows Room |
Meeting Type | committee |
Directors Present | missing |
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Event 1: PPS Intergovernmental Committee and Facilities and Operations Committee Meeting - 3/22/23
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legislative update of what's going on in
Salem and the status of the bills that
we are tracking and advocating and Dr
Lowry is joining us virtually and I'd
like to introduce Lisa Mayer from our
government Affairs team
good afternoon good afternoon
legislative lifelong on our government
relations team
um I've been going back and forth
between Salem quite a bit to monitor a
lot of the bills we're supporting of the
capital I wanted to just cover I think
key legislative dates and then some
other advocacy days that we're going to
be
doing in the next few weeks
um so
our
um March 17th was our first chamber work
posting deadlines so that's when all
um bills and most policy committees had
to be
um
uh
so yes bills had to be posted on agendas
by that date in order to stay alive
um except in a few committees like
Revenue
um so our our one of our bills hasn't
been posted yet but it's still okay
um based on the community medicine and
then by April 4th uh the bills have to
move out of their first chamber
first chamber committee
um move or die move or die
so harsh steaks are High
um and then between late March and early
April we'll expect to be co-chairs of
the joint Way Home Means Committee to
publish their budget framework that will
indicate where we think the states will
only end I'm not hearing
um anything's super wonderful about that
I think it will likely be 9.9 billion or
possibly lower immediately you uh
you mean before the revenue forecast
yeah you think that the only likely
um
squeaking to the governor's proposed
budget is looking like it would be in a
downward Direction
yeah I have heard the same yeah yes not
not two options
um and then May 17th is the final
Revenue forecasts of the session and
after that date a lot of bills a lot of
the budget bills will begin
um I think if it's a really good
forecast like the other one happened
to push on a higher six foot
welcome director Hollands we're just
getting an update on what's going on in
Salem the status of the bills that we're
tracking and we just Lisa just finished
talking about
um
the status of the state school fund and
that it is not looking likely that it
will move be pushed in an upward
direction that the governor's proposed
budget would be pushed in an upward
direction from the legislature some
likelihood that it could be ratcheted
down from the legislature but all of
that is also uh preceding the May
revenue forecast which might change
things anyway
um so yeah after that May 17th revenue
forecast May 19th is our second chamber
of deadline so if bills aren't posted um
uh and then late May early June we'll
expect a lot of the vegetables
um and then by June 25th it's the
Constitutional end date of the session
so they have it to be completed
um and right now on the Senate side the
Republicans are using their only tool as
a minority party to slow the process
down by forcing bills to be read
so when there are like 400 page bills
that come through it takes hours and
days is that currently happening with
most everything yes on the Senate side
it hasn't happened on the house
right
at least we don't have to be there for
that but um yeah they have like a robot
reading though
well that's great
it's not a person
so anyways I'm not sure what will happen
on the house side but things might
not continue to be slow with the
ultimate thing on the floor
um and then
some advocacy days that have happened
and will happen so far March 15th Costa
held a administrators of color Lobby day
um there were probably 30 administrators
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we had three
um two people from PPS Stacy Marine um
Dr neidro Jefferson right there
um and then folks from all over the
state we had lunch with governor kotec
and then met with several legislators
off
happy for um education workers
efforts to increase the difference
that went really well
um and then
on Monday as you know the state school
fund bill is up for a public hearing so
we'll be organizing a lot of testimony
there they're only accepting testimony
in person
um I'm sure it was intentionally planned
but obviously break just to move that
bill when
um less people are available so they're
still going to have to deal with me but
they're gonna
go okay
and testify as well and I need to check
in with irony I know she's working
really hard on to steal your thunder but
on getting students organized for the
student day of action but I need to
Circle back with her to see if we are
have some students coming down to 27th
do you have an update on that um she was
going to talk to a few I prepared a new
tool kit I had to get it reviewed by
okay but um oh it's okay for me to send
out now so I'll show that information
um and just a little background on
different questions
no but I we okay yeah yeah
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if you are wanting to stay all day I can
also see if we can meet with legislators
while we're there we have the whole day
so I'll see who's available and we can
make the most of it I'll do that let's
do it yeah
preferable preferably the Skeptics not
our allies yes yeah I think
generally within our uh District
boundaries at least on the early
literacy I think we may have all allies
but you can you can
tell us the score on that later right
you know yeah
yeah so I'll send some information I'll
get you registered for both those
hearings
and um yeah we'll have a lot we also
have a lot of ptas that are um planning
to come and Pat also is organizing as
well yeah
there's lots of people will show
um and then April 8th there's um The
Joint ways and these co-chairs are
hosting listening sessions all over the
state and they have one Dave in Portland
um at PCC on April 8th so I'll share
more information once they have a link
that we okay but I think
typically those listening sessions
feature a lot of Housing and Health Care
Investments and so it's really important
for us to bring Elevate education yeah
be great to get some students so that's
here and it usually happens in the
afternoon or evening yeah or yeah
so I'll share that and then April 12th
of course our student day of action
um which is a full day at the Capitol
as many board members there who are
available
um
currently establishing some meetings
I've reached out to the governor's
office our whole delegation about
leadership and so we'll have a lot of
meetings in the afternoon
um we can't give students a tour of the
capital because of construction but
there's some space in the chambers that
are available so we can take them to
watch our floor session
and then late April to early we were
looking at area
from all of my information about that
great too
um and then
we have two bills that we're running
through the house right at the moment
um Hospital 3227 is our our custodial
Civil Service bill
um we haven't public hearing on February
27th and
I think at the very minimum
everyone was very supportive of what we
were talking to
um legislative in that committee
actually had a lot of passion about by
that statue even exist
um and then there's a lot of legislators
representing districts that are growing
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that don't want their districts to be
sent back to the sport like Beaverton
will be after the next census
um I think Salem Kaiser is getting close
so there is some interest and more
expensive changes so than what we're
after uh so I understand that we're
moving forward on you know the somewhat
minor but useful modifications that are
we have put in that bill but um what
would it take procedurally to dismantle
the board
um I mean I that was one of the on the
record of the chair of the committee
suggested that yeah so um I think there
is an appetite
um I could that just be emotion on the
floor like from the chair of the
committee to I think they they could
request an amendment and get an
amendment to this Bill here's the bill
that's looking for these changes and by
the way we just want to get rid of them
so yes they can they can't do that um
and I think they are
looking into
I think there's a lot of politics with
fciu
yeah I was gonna I was just gonna
acknowledge the um that there will be
opposition
um there is current opposition uh to our
uh our requests okay our our edits which
we are considering are minor compared to
what the other like what other
legislators
um have shared
um and so given the opposition uh you
know one of the things that uh we want
to make sure is that uh while you know
other legislators are maybe protecting
their their communities from this they
may they may keep Portland in the uh in
other words they may not want to they're
they're getting enough pressure
from the opposition that there might be
a carve out just for Portland Public
uh instead uh what do you mean you mean
if there's a carve out for Portland
Public then it then it you know
effectively dismantles the whole thing
until somebody else is eligible you mean
a carve out that we wouldn't be subject
to it or more about that we would be the
only one subject we are I mean but
that's just right but but you know the
the trigger right now is the senses
right gives it makes it where other
cities or municipalities might be
impacted by it
in the long run So currently yes can you
help me understand I've tried before can
anyone help me understand
the justification for opposition
um in terms of you know how it could
benefit students and or how it can
benefit workers overall
do you want to talk about the what the
sci opposition will Mark what were the
remarks so they so our Bell specifically
modifies we want to remove the test
requirement
um
it's been a barrier and that's we've
lost candidates
and then we want to modify the
requirements for the board Commissioners
so that they don't from the district and
they don't have to upload them for five
years and the reason that matters is
because it's currently very difficult to
actually get a hearing because they
don't have a Full Slate of Commissioners
they don't function exactly period it is
affecting our ability is fully staff
custodians so that's the bottom line but
um fciu showed up and they were very
protective of the test they wanted I
think us
keeping they don't really have a strong
argument I mean how did this test I can
tell but what is this text
I've seen the test it's
it's not helpful to the actual like it's
like a written testing it's a written
test there's a lot of questions around
like
what does the word delicate mean because
they're handling delicate
it's all in English and
um there's
we wouldn't want to offer it in multiple
languages because the custodians do need
to have some English language
proficiency
they don't need enough to actually like
fill out 50 questions in English
everything on the test is covered in the
training in a very robust formation
and we have data about you know how many
people drop out before the test when
they know they have to take the test and
what percentage of those candidates are
are
people of color and what percentage of
our candidates of color drop out
test and it's all I
yeah
so we see that 30 nearly 30 percent of
candidates withdraw at the testing phase
so they go through the working process
and then when they get to the test they
just stop and it's and the only way that
we do this is it's written correct it's
written test there's no other form of
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helping someone who may have test
anxiety or anything along those lines
this is not PBS this is required by this
law right right which is which was which
was written in 1937 which predates World
War II right and it was only to apply
exclusively to Portland Public Schools I
guess my question is what was the out
what was the purpose of the test like
what are we hoping to gain out of this
test that we feel is going to help our
custodians be met our facilities people
do not see any advantage whatsoever they
just see a disadvantage and they see
that it just particularly disadvantages
on what was the outcome of what was back
when they implemented this what was the
goal of the test I think it was one of
those
legislation to prevent nepotism from
happening and maybe at that time it
served its purpose but right now because
you said we see that World War II yeah I
mean I mean when I hear something like
that it reminds me of like the voting
tests where you have to look down the
problems right you know how many bubbles
was in the box or how many Marvels in
this bottle so I don't know that's why I
would say what was the context of this
shirts
safe to say one of the contexts was
racism so
without question
but I I'm still really baffled by the
extent to which anyone defends it yeah I
would say yeah I would say there's a lot
of
um
there's a lot of
um
lifting up I would say
um Old Wounds right and so 2002 type of
there was a lawsuit in 2007 right or the
lawsuit from 2006 right from SEIU to PPS
you know that's that gets brought up a
lot how does that pertain to this
um
and they sided with seid because
of the test law oh so they believe that
that it offers some protections around
contracted labor maybe so I think that's
but I mean that we can address that
we're about to go into contract
negotiations if that's actually a
explicit concern that they want to raise
they should raise it in bargaining and
we can adjust it there and I will that's
where the legislators landed in the
public hearing that they should be
determined at the local level I think
it's well they actually follow through
with that can we get them when they get
a lot of pressure
um so we're I'm we're working closely
with our contract lobbyists and I
actually called reps and Charities
office today
um I think we'll we'll have a meeting
with us and the chair and seid anyone
talk about it and I think if we're not
able to
get this amended in the house maybe we
can get it amended in the Senate and
send it back over we are running up
against the bill deadline so it's going
to be tricky to get it done in this
window but it doesn't mean
we don't have a chance of doing it I
think and I think the Senate fdiu has
less of the following the Senate so
there might be some
work that can be done here have a
question so who's winning the businesses
we have to administer it so I'm just
curious what happened if we don't
pick us soon
I mean if we're hiring SIU members I
mean even whether we do the test or not
what's the if we do it without doing the
test what happens well I'm guessing it's
a contract violation from one because I
think the terms of the test are most
likely in our contract language we can
check on that yeah I can check on that
so that's a good question I would I
would probably ask legal counsel for for
advice here because I don't know yeah
yeah and I want to know if that landed
in our contract yeah that language is
not in the contract
didn't have to sound like it's just a
state requirement and if we don't do it
and they give us our money anyway so
they sue us and get their money back I
don't know right
yeah yeah which of the following tools
is the best used to absorb water foreign
sponge cloth floor mop
counter brush or pressure washer stop
burning
here's another one look at the numbers
below Circle the box that has four boxes
from the left and two boxes down
write the letter test the same as it's
been since the 30s it's changed
our team has tried to modify it to make
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it but still yeah but it's still
accommodation if you have dyslexia
I don't know those details yeah dang
yeah so now we're not even considering
people with disabilities yeah
yeah I know that they used to administer
it like with pencils and you know in
person now it's on offered online but
will we please keep us posted on any
developments here because this is
something that has been a thorn in our
side for decades and wow it it sounds
like we have a moment where we have the
ear some legislators who realize how
absurd it is frankly
and
um that we need to
make some progress because it's hurting
our kids I mean it's definitely a
contributing factor to our vacancies
absolutely and it's also a barrier to
employment for people that we want to
employ and people who otherwise
indicate that they are interested in
those jobs
yeah as good as the sick area on them
yes we look to the extent that you're
gonna remember next week yeah for sure
yeah conversation I hate it but I know
it's not
okay
just that I didn't know we couldn't do
that
I'm saying we could ask that I do please
yeah
very good
very good vacation
and then Hospital 3221 is our local
auction Levy lemon film that mistakenly
got referred to the house education
committee it's now been referred to the
house Revenue committee
um the deadlines the chamber deadlines
don't apply to revenue so our bill is
not dead but it still needs to get
scheduled for public hearing I've been
reaching out to the chair and then I
actually just asked the parents to reach
out so I think we just need to apply
some pressure to get that bill moving
um so that can be another one we yeah we
advocate of a complete round out our
to-do list
yeah yeah and who and and also when you
talk about advocating you can let us
know who and give us the contact
information yes and we can share that
with other people too and say hey just
to email our phone call yeah because
what we need
they do with their songs man
and then we support that it's over 20
bills so far um that align with our
legislative priorities
um I won't go over all of them now I
think they're all alive so which is
great except for one which is the
streamlining of cooperative procurements
um the HB 3030 is the healthy meals for
all task force and we actually just got
big news from the U.S department of
Agriculture that they put out a proposed
rule to
um expand the cep threshold to 25
percent
that was part of the new um
Department of Education was asking for
part of their budget that they were
asking for from USDA so 25 from where
was it the IP the ISP number so the
threshold
um proceed so if they approve of that
rule we can maximize State funding and
get a full Statewide cep program okay
can you explain that for anyone
listening so Community eligibility uh
guidelines which means that uh if a cert
if a student population is over a
certain threshold of underserved
students then the whole school qualifies
for uh free lunch as opposed to having
to individually certify each student so
you're talking about the threshold of
that student population
and right now it's at 40 if it lowers to
25 and we get State funding we could in
theory questions
which is one way one way to get at that
other stage so passing legislation
welcome welcome
more updates to come about that I think
we'll be monitoring that rule and this
bill and trying to coordinate getting
um State funding
um these are the rest of the Bells if
you have any questions on any of these
let me know
um
I'll continue including them in our
weekly legislative updates and then
these are the big upcoming bills we have
so
hb5015 is the state school fund bill
which is up for public hearing on Monday
followed by the two early literacy bills
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one is Stan's proposed Bill and then the
other is the governors proposed Bill and
they'll be merged into one early
literacy bill
um and then Senate Bill 1050 is um going
to be an investment in preparing Oregon
teachers to teach ethnic studies so a
little bit more funding for professional
development and training
um in that bill and then
HB 2895 removes the cap on special ed
funding through the state school fund it
does not include more funding so I think
our testimony can be appreciating that
that cab is removed but we still need
more
and then that bill is not related to the
other bill that I think is still alive
which would uh mandate
um
pay uh thresholds for special education
workers yeah so they're alive those are
still alive
we're watching closely because
because I'm sure the state is
providing funding
yeah and have we provided fiscal uh
impact information to them on that bill
uh OS osbo and
um osba have fun survey at the district
so yeah we've we've provided some
information
great yeah that's what I thought that's
it that's all we got from Salem okay
well yeah please let us know and
um what we can do on the 27th who we can
meet with whose doors we need to knock
on
what we need to be loud about
absolutely awesome
we'll get to work great thank you
thank you very much
Haley did you have any questions of Lisa
before she goes about any of that no I
just wanted to say about the you know
special education pay piece like I think
all of us support increased pay for
folks who are on the front lines doing
that job but again the more unfunded
mandates we get from the legislature the
harder it is for us to do our jobs
um and so I just appreciate that
continued conversation about yes we all
see needs and how do we fund them so
that we're doing the best for our kids
yep I agree
all right welcome thank you all for
coming
um we just concluded the
intergovernmental uh committee meeting
on its own now Gary and I wanted to join
forces here for
um intergovernmental committee and the
facilities and operations committee
which director Holland's chairs
um because a we're talking about a
facility in our district portfolio and B
on the intergovernmental part
um you are talking about a proposal that
involves a lot of public entities and
it's something I know that director
Hollins and I are excited about and
interested in looking at how the the
school district can support it and then
potentially how we can
encourage our other our other public
Partners
um that you guys have in your sites to
be a part of it as well
foreign
yes um
I'm excited to hear your proposal
um you know anything that we're looking
at to help get our kids moving in in
different directions to you know
to really be an asset to you know them
with their families you know and then to
their communities it was always
something that you know at the district
we strive for
um so I'm excited to to hear the vote
you guys want to come to the table and
introduce yourselves as well whatever
your most comfortable you don't need to
do you need to
foreign
thank you guys for uh making yourself
available on relatively short notice too
we want to help you get the ball rolling
oh thank you so much
foreign
so I guess should we do for the record
like
Productions real quick
um so thank you for having us here today
my name is Nate McCoy president and CEO
and National Association of minority
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contractors at Oregon Chapel
good afternoon my name is Lance Randall
I am the executive director of the black
Business Association of Oregon
good afternoon board members my name is
Joe McFadden president CEO Portland OIC
of Rosemary Anderson High School glad to
be here
y'all look good too
yeah
hold on we better have one of them kind
of meetings what's going on you look
good but okay I digress
I don't disagree
I have on low key but sneaks
[Laughter]
okay and the spirit of step it up
while we're here today
um I think it's been
um
widely recognized not just hearing organ
but in the nation
folks of color working in Partnership we
need to control yes
um efforts led by and for people of
color including all folks uh in our
community all three things that we see
as a vision
um for the respective minds of work we
all do be focused on Business
Development for contractors of color
men's focused on every business aspect
of not businesses y'all know Joe well
what he does with school-based programs
and many other things around gang
violence so
what the vision is today and this
probably is got to be about 30 years in
the making is for us to come today to
you all to talk about a new culturally
specific Workforce system Center in the
heart of this community that will focus
on manufacturing architecture which I
happen to be an architect want to
attending our state
engineering construction and
Entrepreneurship we recognize that our
K-12 system does not always allow Folks
at an early age to understand and have
access to these industries and knowing
that there's a big blind spot on public
and private projects we want to make
sure that we can have a building that is
the Hub in this community that
relies on partners that are experts in
the industry while also having people of
code indeed delay and build Bridges
amongst all these various Industries
I'm going to stop there because I think
the vision and we'll say the statement
and allow others to speak to the to the
vision is for people of color to be over
represented in the aec and I just use
that as the acronym architecture
infrastructure aec Industries and
Entrepreneurship public ownership to CEO
and that's the thing I'm proud about
what you said Herman is that we actually
all real Mr CEOs and people who see us
and women as well to know that they can
be us as but so that part absolutely so
I'll stop there maybe let Joe jump in
and then followed by Lance
yeah so I would say uh this is this is
something that
uh Nate and I have been talking about
for more than five years I need it we
need a place
um and over the last six years we've
done some work at
uh the Northwest College of construction
with our free apprenticeship program and
the numbers are unbelievable in terms of
placement of the challenge
when you say our pre-apprenticeship
program
poic okay so our construction
so we do 90 90 completion rate of the
12-week pay training which is on their
campus and then uh 83 placement rate in
the trades
so unfortunately it's pretty small so we
we only graduate 45
graduates per year and so we want to
we want to explain we believe that uh
the need is there and the demand is
there so and that's just one industry
and I and I believe that having a hub
where young people
professionals
uh folks in the trades
middle management types
of the companies that are members of
Namco currently
uh a place where we all can do business
in this one location you know and
um I believe that will lead to all kinds
of opportunities
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for folk and
um
and then bringing in the business uh
black business Alliance uh organization
has also been a huge addition to this
effort and you know we think that Tubman
is it excellent place for this fish to
take place uh I'm not quite sure what
the district has in mind for that
facility
but we are very interested in uh that
conversation
and so much so that we've already begun
looking at Financial models and and
things to support uh of this effort we
are also in conversations with the port
of Portland uh they have some space uh
that they're looking to develop off of
33rd and
Marine Drive
and we've been in conversations with
them for the past six months about what
that might look like so to to be clear
uh whether or not
um
our dream of being in that location
becomes a reality of this business
development and Workforce Training
Center will happen
somewhere because uh there's a need and
I believe this is a big missing piece
to training folks in a way that's
comprehensive and that we can build a
pipeline for folks with the kind of
support they need on a daily basis
I'll just add that um the black Business
Association focuses on black businesses
and black entrepreneurs the objective is
to build up the existing black
businesses that already exist
and create Pathways for entrepreneurs
maybe black entrepreneurs to either
start businesses take over businesses
or to invest in Black businesses so when
you look at this this Center
it's an opportunity to have a place
where you have new organizations that
are working together
and Joe mentioned the pipeline
education is the beginning point
training and what have you and Joe's
organization has been around for a long
time doing that then you talk about the
job aspect getting people an opportunity
to work make money to take care of
themselves and the family name Max
focuses on that
the other part that I'm bringing in is
entrepreneurship when we talk about
going from
the eec industries into entrepreneurship
all the way to the CEO it's important to
make sure that that our students our
children know
that not only will you have an
opportunity to get a good job but you
have the opportunity to be the person
that runs the the facility
that runs the office I think that this
Center
coming together these old organizations
that talk about the three different
levels and of opportunities for our
students
it's very important to have a place
where we are all together interacting
not only as organizations but also
interacting together with the students
and those who are coming through for
Workforce Development opportunities for
training opportunities and for
entrepreneurship opportunities
um the fact that this facility is
located
in a part of the city that has been
historically a place where you can see
black people interacting and having
businesses is key
and what better place to have a center
like this that would focus on
students of color to resent them with
the opportunities they can actually see
firsthand and actually use their hands
to learn how to do certain things and
gather the skills they need to be
successful in the trade Industries and
also to see entrepreneurs developing
right before your eyes not only seeing
entrepreneurs teaching them and
mentoring but also seeing their fellow
students cohorts and colleagues
turning into entrepreneurs right before
the eyes something special so we're
trying to put this to this this program
and find a facility that will be
a gathering place for the future
Generations so that they can take over
the business community
but take it over in such a way that will
make it better for each generation
following the other generation so I'm
excited about the opportunity to work
for these two gentlemen their
organizations
decide to work with the board I'm hoping
we get an opportunity to have a
discussion about
that facility and what we can turn it
into and how it's going to benefit the
community
so I just want to thank you for your
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time and then to speak and hoping that
you can answer any questions that you
have about our proposal
yeah I would add before right before you
get into that and said
in our
plans
PPS students would have access to the
facility
so
in our minds
we have targeted folks that we want to
to really help disenfranchise those Left
Behind Etc but in the model and in the
design
PPS students would be able to access
the facility the trainee and the network
with business owners and entrepreneurs
and I think and learn about the various
traits
and I don't know if that is going on
currently in any sort of systemic way
but I think
that would be a huge benefit
for PPS students not only that they
would also have access right after
graduation you just push them push them
right in and in my mind they would have
to direct entry into programs so they
would you know all PPS graduates would
have to lose their seat
and train they wouldn't have to
necessarily uh compete for a CD is to be
a space where they could actually get
into
see how they see where they fit in prior
to even leaving high school because the
objective would be not to wait for them
to get out of school but to actually
give them touches and and bite-sized
pieces while they were in school so that
they can learn like by the time I get
out of school I already know that I want
to do this this or this so now I've
already begun the the process of
figuring out do I want to get the check
and write the check because that's what
we're offering we're offering the
opportunity for black people and people
of color we're the only people that
whenever we start talking about anything
we have to say black and you know it's
we have to say that it is but it's a
knowing at times but to be very specific
that this is a space where that we are
building and designing for the the black
community where they can see themselves
not just as the one working but the one
hiring as the one who writes the check
signs the back of the check as the one
who is building and designing as the one
they get to see themselves in all of
these different lights and there's no
light like that in Portland right now so
what you're creating what's your what
you've begun is is something that's
that's not being done so the question
that you're positioning to the board and
to the district is really do you want to
do you want to be what side of History
do you want to be listed on you know I'm
saying do you want to be a part of you
know what I'm saying this said I was
there and helped it start or I came
along to get a loan so
I level with what I'm hearing you know I
I got a Black Agenda make no mistake
about it I I love us and I love seeing
y'all and I love what y'all are doing
thank y'all for sharing I don't know
that's best me nothing came to today so
I don't know I'm ready to hear whatever
else we talking about I do I'll probably
come up with some questions in a minute
I got some questions about how it's
going to operate
um what the you know if we're looking at
the facility
um cost what what does that so I got
questions about that but because it's
you know can be free
but it shouldn't break you you know I'm
saying so how do we do how do we how do
we build you're in a developmental
developmental time and how do we how do
we work with
so that we're truly a partnership
because in order for us to be truly in
Partnership there has to be some give
and take on on both sides so but my
questions will come up in a minute I'm
just I'm just proud to be here
with you absolutely I wanted to go back
to what you were saying about our
students
um you know there's so many we we've
expanded our Career Technical education
programs in every single one of our high
schools and the Jefferson modernization
right now there is part of their design
process they're identifying new CTE
strands that are going to be included in
Jefferson so whole new areas we do have
construction
programs and
um design in a couple of our schools I
know Lincoln High School just started a
construction strand we also have with
all of our modernizations we have a
requirement that the contractors The
Architects and the construction
contractors
do work with students and offer a class
an embedded class in the school day that
is um you know say in construction
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management and so they're working every
day in real time time on the designs of
the project at hand and all that so
we've had I've talked to Nate about this
before we've had varying experience with
that some of our contractors have been
fantastic and they've gone you know way
above expectations in terms of how they
engage students and the number of
students they engage and the things they
do for them to actually
help them on their next steps into the
professions and some you know are just
kind of Meet the expectations but so
these are all things that would be great
to think about especially with Jefferson
since it's so close by
and and I wanted to ask you to remind us
when what is the ODOT timeline for when
Tubman is decommissioned uh
as a middle school
top of my head but I will try to get
that do you remember something
um I want to say
25. that's what I want to say too but
I'm not positive I think David I think
it's 25
I think that's going to start
groundwork stuff I think the main thing
like 25. but nothing we're going to ask
Dan to get that question but that's good
for you guys to know yeah I would say to
that Amy one of the things that this
would do is it I'm glad to hear that
um
because you know there's it's it's
awesome to get that exposure while
you're in high school
it's we need more of it
uh but then there's that next step
so now it's time to get serious about
where we're going and what we're doing
After High School and uh the thing that
is needed so badly especially for
apprentices is a support in the
mentorship the retention rates are
horrific yeah they're horrific in the
trades especially for people who look
like me
because often they go into situations
where there are a bunch of people that
don't look like them in the culture
doesn't support
them and especially it's probably I
don't know this but I think even for
women it's worse
and so again having
the business owners
having the entrepreneurs the small
businesses
and having the trainees all in one space
puts us in a better position
to support folks who have graduated from
Lincoln or Benson or Jefferson who
actually decide to go into trades to
have that kind of support and a place to
come
if they find themselves
uh in situations that that are difficult
to manage especially on the job site
yeah and that's and that's hugely
important and I mean if I could share
just a very quick story of how I even
got started in architecture being a
people that student at Buckland
injury way back because I was shipped
off to the talents of the gifted program
of PPS to some of the more privileged
schools and I realized at that time that
I had no clue what Architects were I
could draw pretty pictures all day long
they took me being plugged out of the
school to be actually having a real
aspiration for a career tracking this
through talented and gifted program that
then elevated me to Joe's point to
really take this opportunity serious and
I think CTE is planning that seed but
this building is a place where you come
and you're getting a little serious
about signing on the front or the back
of these checks long term and why that's
such a beautiful storm right now is that
for instance name act has 140 members
our contractors lead projects they don't
just sub on projects and they equate to
over 250 million a year in construction
and we're talking about ODOT one of our
members and a whole bunch of others to
be on a project that has over 100 1.5
million Workforce hours so we can
literally take PBS students put them on
one project and have them Journey out on
the same project which does not happen
in our state because you don't get
six-year-line projects usually they're
about two years maybe a year and a half
but six year project not even including
what's going to happen with the bridge
going across the Vancouver and then all
the albino Vision Trust work happen to
be a commissioner for the Portland
Housing bureau so housing is an all-time
need in our community so you're just
talking about the mail team pot right
here in a one two mile radius where we
could literally have our kids really
remembering who they were and being the
original Builders of America yes by
being there today and having a space
that we control
to me is like to your point about Legacy
building like it gets no better because
this is not happening in the nation in a
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magazine 24 States and everybody's
asking us how are y'all doing this what
can we do to be supportive and how can
we actually implement this in our cities
too so I just think again the momentum
is a great time millions of dollars out
here for Workforce Development you want
to see the scalability that Joe was
talking about so that we can actually
capture more has 20 000 jobs are needed
today between 2020 and 2030. we need 20
000 jobs
living just in a couple of Industries
probably more than that you know
universally but in construction people
can have a criminal record you can have
never went to college and you know again
these are things that a lot more people
can attain
have given that opportunity to be in a
space that we needed 20 000 before we
passed 200 million dollars for housing
yesterday I agree I completely agree but
again nobody's responding to the real
need right now and you can't depend on
honestly just CTE programs being that
pipeline that's your introductory but
we're trying to really make sure that
people actually succeed
and so I'm not lying you know when you
talk about the job that's needed so how
would this thing and help increase
capacity for a contractor or owners to
be able to hire or create pipeline for
job advertising so you talk about those
twenty thousand jobs well our
contractors don't have twenty thousand
dollars to give right and unfortunately
so how do we build them how would this
thing help build that capacity for our
contractors and owners to be able to do
that yeah I think it would be us working
with our agency partners and we've got
toward a Portland Multnomah County uh
city of Portland
what else do we have
an important business Alliance Community
downtown that has a lot of rehab the
buildings that they own I think we have
a lot of projects I mean AMAC is an
owner's record many public private
projects so like a big pipeline of
contract work is not a problem it's just
that Workforce that is needed to help
these companies get to the next level
um and I guess one of those efforts back
to the I-5 Rose Quarter project which we
supported PPS and trying to help get
these tubby kids out of that space
that's just one of many projects coming
it's just nobody is really focused on
this Workforce culturally specific
demand for us to be
right now
is we can figure out how to get those
jobs but we need to have people in them
another question
um it's of course you know houses will
be paid for I know there's a funding
strategy for this and for the center
I don't want to do all the time but I
guess you want to talk about the port of
Portland exciting time well I mean I I
would say specifically on this
particular project
um we are
looking at a Federal Grant
currency
that has a five-year
window
multi-million dollar I forget the name
of it but it there's a multi-million
dollar opportunity
there which the application is due
next month I believe
for Workforce Center
so so that that's that's one
and then the other is we have pitched
this concept to the state legislature so
we've got an ask in there
to support
this effort in this session for like
planning and it's on it's it's in
Luke now so it's it let's see
is that through that Future Ready
Workforce money or where no I believe
I'm not
sure exactly where it's Landing
I I do have it at my I could pull it up
but it is
um a part of the capital
projects
so it's being put in on the capital
projects
okay okay
but speaking about future ready organ
there is money on the table on grounds
of money to come out uh I don't know
about 89 million I think it is so it's
been more dedicated to its
pre-apprenticeship programs but we sat
down with some of the folks involved in
the future ready organ money and kind of
the same kind of presentation it didn't
sound like there was some reception to
the casino something like this get
funded I would also say important to
00h 55m 00s
fund was an area you've been knocking on
games to make sure that you know we're
talking about the Energy Efficiency
across the board of all various trades
you know nbao is kind of an anchor in
this discussion too we've been working
with Murphy's office and Writer's office
in fact flying NBC what was the acronym
you said before that uh BBA I'm sorry
black okay I'm sorry my bad excuse me
yesterday black Business Association
Oregon when we name act with PBA
Portland business Alliance helped see
the organization we got commitments from
Markley's office to appropriate funds he
just announced any of those funds for
the efforts that we have underway and
the ultimate goal is for them to invest
big time
so we're not kind of just coming to you
all with just you know handout or asking
for you to start something from scratch
we've got a lot of commitments
chair a Prosper Portland it's funded
bbao and has funded a lot of us in the
past and they're all wanting to see if
we can get some commitment to having
control or working under some type of
lease Arrangement so that they can just
know we have a space in which we can do
a Capital One
and I let someone sort to ask questions
so what makes this with some of you more
and it's more advantages than the port
option that you mentioned
well I would just saying what I said
earlier the fact that it's located
its location in this community
is one of the things that I feel makes
it better uh
justification is a real thing and it not
only happens to people's homes but it
happens to businesses they have to
facilities they could be retained and
used for the communities
you know to keep people so I think that
the location being where it is
good because um
it would be the Legacy
we're starting to lay some even Legacy
of a place
where our children can go to and it has
to be sustainable
sustainable place they can go to to
continue
this work of trying to
go from being educated
to working
to write a checks
so the physical location yourself where
it's located it's a lot of history
um the other thing is that the port
facilities is not in this heart of the
community and it's going to be kind of
way out
and um
that could be a challenge for some
people trying to get there
so we want to make it as convenient as
possible you want to have some meeting
behind the building location
and accessibility not only for their
students
but also for the people who want to
support them that's still in the
community
but they don't be able to come through
and take a look and see what's going on
but to know that we're trying to make
sure that our children
are being put in a better position
to have a better future so that's
amazing Center facility now Joe may have
some ornate Maps or just some things to
talk about no absolutely just to add on
to that as Portland natives like heated
gentrification and if I go to another
public housing meeting or with this
right to return policy that we all
talked about and every single time I've
heard somebody in Black speak it's like
return to what yeah to having no job in
the community and not having enough
income to buy a house in the community
or being a friend in the community so
literally we would be responding to a
right to return to get a job a high
paying job to where you can live in any
part of the city now to me that's the
ultimate ticket of restorative justice
and around your time or getting a high
paying job gotcha all right state
director Larry have a hand up
I raised my virtual hand a while ago and
then my real hand
um
I was off camera for a while I went I
went to get water to turn my camera off
and then I never turned it back on when
I came back so I was here the whole time
um sorry about that
um Gary this question really is more for
you as chair of facilities and operation
so I'm thinking about our long term
first of all I want to say this is an
amazing idea I think Carmen you're
exactly right like this is what our
community needs and this is the right
side of History
my question for Gary is how do you see
this proposed use of the Tubman site
fitting in with our long-term long-range
facilities planning and our long-term
goals when it comes to facilities I
don't have that book memorized that I'm
not sure you do as chair of facility
um just and that may be a question for
staff but what what would the
implications be as we look at what we
have a we have a board had said is our
priorities when it comes to our
facilities I think this fits but again I
don't have the book memorized yeah and
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thanks for the question so in our
hometown facilities plan there is not a
plan for once the building is vacated
um and so you know I think it's it's up
for
um discussion of what could be you know
in that plan since it is not
um uh planned for it once it's vacating
has some like General priority areas for
us to look at as we're looking at our
sort of surplus land if you can call it
that but I again I'm not sure what that
says
yeah I think you know maybe one of our
next steps Jonathan would be to you know
ask staff to respond to the prospects of
a lease at this facility we really
haven't had the long-term facility plan
does not address Ted tepin because it
was done before uh that that buyout was
complete obviously we're a school
district we're not going to put kids
back in there at least not on an all-day
everyday basis and certainly not in
little kids which is not what you guys
are talking about so that that limits
the use that limits its
um
its value to us just to be frank but I
think one of the next steps would be to
ask staff to address exactly director
Lowry's question you know how would a
long-term lease for this purpose that's
being proposed
um
you know sync up with
being being opposition to anything any
of our stated values and our long-term
facilities usage
we could we do that
yeah I mean I'm hearing directions from
the board collectively
to
have a response to what well that so
this go ahead I think a bit more just
because there haven't been addressed and
from and the way that the long-term
facilities plan has been articulated and
communicated it's more of an outline of
what we would like to do you know given
if we had all the money to do stuff with
so I guess maybe you just
asking staff you know
about this proposal as far as having a
Workforce Development Center there I
guess it would just be what their
thoughts is on that
um as far as from a facilities
standpoint I think the simplest question
based on what Ailey responded or what
she was asking was where does the
existing Tubman sit in our long-range
plan after the kids get out it does I
mean but I think that's our question
that's why I'm saying we take it back to
so even ask them what their thoughts
about this proposal because they're it
hasn't been addressed as far as what
we're going to do with telling right and
I guess my only concern is that is that
I don't know I now we're going to start
creating stuff because I don't want them
to play on I don't want them to play
with my ball type of situation I'm again
I'm a petty individual at times I can be
Petty and so I have to think about what
would the petty me do
if I didn't have somebody else to to you
know say Reign me back you know I'm
saying I just got to think about it I'm
not saying that that's anybody's
intention but what does that what does
Betty look like and so does it look like
no we did have a plan for that we just
hadn't told nobody type of situation
I'll be clear we do not have plans so
now it's in the public record there are
no plans right there there is I just
want to make sure the board is uh aware
that you do have a real estate policy
um that dictates how you would go about
um
um you know I think ultimately real
estate transactions uh are uh abort
directive and so
um what I'm hearing is that you want us
to
so so it seems like the board wants us
to move it I guess I'm just trying to
get clear Direction here
what I'm hearing is this the pro because
we can review endless possibilities
right
yeah when I
um and that you know be very beneficial
for you to have some type of formal
indication from the school district
about its availability and about what
potential terms might be as you are
going out seeking funding from these
many sources that are frankly
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um very likely to to subscribe to this
idea
um but you you know it's it's a it's an
opportunity for us to potentially sign
on as a concrete partner as you go out
and seek other funding sources but we
need to answer the question of whether
or not we
um
we would be willing to consider a
long-term lease proposal so I think
that's yes so we will I guess do an
analysis
of this document But ultimately that
decision Falls forward solely on you
yeah so regardless uh you know again we
don't have a plan for the site so it is
ultimately the board's prerogative what
you want to do so and that's what I'm
saying I think we should just talk with
the facilities and operations folks
about
what what potentially how does it how
could this fit in to the facilities
operations long-term if they said this
could fit in it great because it'll
always be great to make sure we have our
staff supporting that idea
um then the board just saying hey we're
going to do this and then that's it so
that's why I'll say I think it would be
great to run this fire facilities
operations team to ask them their ideas
and how they feel that this will benefit
from a facilities operations standpoint
and then we can get into the long-term
lease uh conversation and that as well I
just want to make sure I'm clear in
terms of so uh this is an operational or
facilities question not necessarily a
programmatic question because that
itself is a total Dynamic right we have
like you mentioned CTE you mentioned
right you know our partnership with PCC
they have a Workforce you know so I know
that so I just don't want to get into
the programmatic right I think the first
piece is do is there potential for them
to have access to this building to this
real estate asset I guess I would say
yes oh yeah right yeah
yeah that's what I was saying you think
if we have the facilities of operations
folks look at it and say you know what
this would be a great a great idea for
this space from a facility standpoint
and they have some other plans which we
know they don't
um I just want everyone to be on board
when we were talking about this because
I want everybody to be moving in the
same direction you know and then if you
know if they're not then it's up to the
board to choose what direction they move
to next and then as things start to get
a little more concrete we can explore
all the other type of opportunities for
Partnerships in terms of how we want to
be involved because of all the ways we
see this benefiting our kids
process communication question given you
know this is a public meeting and uh
folks in the Top End Community to answer
your earlier question
students are scheduled to be out out of
their summer of 26. that's odot's that's
under odot's current schedule obviously
that's always uh scheduled to change is
that the whole schedule that's the news
schedule okay yeah so summer of 26 is
when we would have that always has to
Fresh Off The Press confirmation so the
summer of 26.
so I just want to acknowledge
there are no immediate plans for them to
move so right I just want to make sure
that it's clear for the broader
Community Bailey always thinking John
um I have a question for uh Joe and the
other gentleman um would this proposal
use all of Tubman or would this be using
part of that facility what would your
idea be there just curious so my first
thought would be all of it
um but certainly we would you know to go
deeper we would that could be
potentially an option but my first
thought is all of it
audience
and I would Echo that
you know the other thing I would say too
is that I would like the board to also
take a look at the
uh Naya
building relationship as it relates to
how this might all follow up so you guys
want to buy the building
but that's what the devil did yeah I
mean I I don't want I mean
I I want to see that's an option
in the funding stream that that is the
economic development Administration
application that we're applying for and
uh on the on the federal level and then
on the state level
it looks like uh this involves
representative Bynum in the
semiconductor
uh part of the training so semiconductor
training would be a part of the training
side of the uh operation
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so I'd like to look and I'm not so let
me be very clear about this
I'm riding with name Mac is the lead
here so poic is a partner
I'm I'm following Nate's lead but I'm
I'm and I think Nate I don't want to
speak for you names but I think Nate
feels most comfortable with the lease
but what I'm saying to Nate as a
colleague and a you know partner in
crime is let's take a look at both
let's not just let's not go in just
totally looking at a lease option let's
look at a a purchase option because the
um
there are resources out there for that
I would totally I even think Lance would
be open to that it's just we don't know
what's going to be the easier right
let's put it all on the table there's
nothing out there let's see let's see
what happens with it exactly but closed
mouth don't get fixed man come on Joe
what was the name of that Federal grant
again please it is the it's from the
economic development Administration
and
it
is
title in public works and economic
adjustment assistance
I tried to open up the app to see the
date that's what you were doing on your
phone yeah I was trying to pull it up I
told you I had it in my fingertips
and then Future Ready working as you
mentioned
you mentioned possibility yeah and and
that money their their uh trying to get
that money to flow quickly
so I'm just moving forward
I guess we probably could put this on
the facility operations permitting for
April right and just to kind of get an
update
um you can carry this with them just so
they can kind of give us their thoughts
on it you know so we can kind of move
forward with that so that can be for
like our April meet at the end of April
12th or so and another uh parallel real
estate example for the district is uh we
have a resolution with albino Vision
Trust for right of first reviews on this
building so that would be enough for you
guys to take to the bank in terms of
um you know seeking grants and such that
could be a structure that works as we're
still pulling things together yeah the
only thing is with the the real estate
policy when you sell remember has to go
to
how to be out to other state agencies
first then if they don't want it then
you can sell I think that's what my
understanding never of the real estate
policy as far as a purchase
here in terms of the next steps from our
end so the the ask is I'm looking at the
document that he's presented in front of
us the the look to look at page three
the details here meaning this 50 000
square feet blah blah blah this this
detail
I mean want us to do essentially a
comparison does it fit I mean the
building is 87 000 square feet so right
so I can 32 rooms right so I mean so we
can do that type of analysis
um and then bring forward also the the
reminder around what is the the real
estate policy because there are very
clear steps
is a lot easier correct I mean they're
both but they're processing around both
that we would have to figure out so we
can present that and then again a
general overview of that yeah you know
um but I do want to get it
operations team as how they will feel
how this would fit in with the long-term
plan so there's no term plan that we
have got half of this video okay uh
assuming that it would
I guess I get to look at it from
if we were to sell it or no I mean where
the seller lease piece is irrelevant at
this point at this I just want to see
how they feel it fixed in with the
long-term office
got it
and I think with that I think I would
like to maybe
um consider putting a one-page or
two-page document
after reviewing the plan and making
because what we get we what we've given
you is just something easy to digest
but I think for another group we would
go in detail well so if you guys want to
get that together soon then we can
disseminate that to the rest of the
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percentage of operations team so that
way when we come back in April for this
they already have that information yes
and where do we find the plan yeah if
it's a long-term facilities plan yeah on
the website we can send it to you it's
online but well that would be
outstanding could you yeah
is for us to get to has built drawings
for this building because we do have a
big time developers helping us right
that's why not
I should love to just know that again so
basically just there was an architect
who when we renovated
with both of those as built drawings and
I'm sorry for them
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where you been
the last thing the last thing I would I
would suggest is on here that you know
we add Trucking on here I mean just
saying yeah
Trucking on here I mean I feel kind of
slighted
as you know having a truck and Training
Facility there you know we're not even
here on here
I've been looking through here
I'm just looking for anything yeah
I know the audience
but he was typing so fast that he
overlooked it that's what it is
okay
um yeah
I mean if you have more controls than
the two sentences on uh comparison I
think that would be helpful just
um a little later especially assuming
you know uh April means just around the
corner so yeah so we once we get the
policy we're going to get the plan uh
right now okay
continue and if we should have access to
there's a policy about facilities no if
there's a real estate policy that's the
way that we're going to sell or lease
but if you want to take it
you can work at our policy thank you the
long-range facility plan and the link to
the real estate policy perfect and the
draw and as is
the build drawing
you don't need to get with me
the only the only people in here to know
about it is
see that's why the kids need to know you
know all right so you're going to teach
you got to get directions I mean one of
the things
but one of the things that our real
estate policy does reference is in terms
of uh
how we look at different potential
lessons is how who they're serving and
whether they're serving our students and
so that's getting a little bit ahead of
where you guys are here
um but if you can
you know when we get to that point it
would be good to talk about what might
this include for kids who are still in
school you know is it like do you have
some uh relationships with the trades
that can we can link to our existing CTE
programs or whatever but that piece
about kids who are still in school that
can move seamlessly then into can either
speak to that real quickly go ahead so
in 2020 maymac and AGC the largest
General Contracting agency
state in the nation came together with
PPS and started first time ever
construction career right in October and
I was asked to be on The Advisory board
over the CTE program and that's not even
including all the stuff Joe's been doing
the business but to me it's already
gouverized around what this means for
the kids including some of our members
who had higher work PDX right now as
part of extracurricular activities to
show kids what infrastructure looks like
building you know highways roads Raymore
to be specific and so again my son going
to school there these kids have already
turned the light bulb on meeting
contractors in literally one place yeah
we want to scale this year it shouldn't
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just be cairo's kids it should be all
PPS Kids and with Joe's piece
um I know it's over at his space but
with the Northwest construction and
things he's got they actually earn while
they learn yeah so that should be able
to have to be able to have access to
that level of caveat to and now let's
think about it from a holistic
perspective of what we're trying to do
with our kids our communities and with
the violence reduction that we're seeing
um in different places if I could show
you how to make a thousand dollars
without and on the Block and not having
to worry about someone you know saying
busting your lid for that thousand
dollars out of your pocket so now I can
put you on the road I can show you how
you know I'm saying you 18 or whatever
you can drive from here to Interstate or
here to Seattle and back and make 500 in
in one load I can show you how to use
the forklift and you you're gonna make
good money and you not go be you know
and nobody's coming after you the police
ain't trying to take it from you and
it's easier actually to make because you
don't have to be doing it as long to
make the same you don't start making
money in the dope game until you move
away and most of the kids just get
knocked off ain't moving no way so y'all
that's who y'all are going after y'all
are going after the ones that are trying
to figure it out trying to figure out
what to do and how to do which is
another reason why this is so
so necessary and so needed because we're
losing the black men in our community
because they're never becoming men
so you know I would say this too is that
this will also support the parents for
PPS so you know
um well supported homes produce
well-supported students and so this this
this thing will come full circle
absolutely 100 but these are all points
that I I believe that it would be I'm
imperative
to make sure are listed in the pros
these are some of the benefits
um to PPS that actually fall in line
with what we as a district want for our
for our students so that when they walk
away from our school they walk away with
a holistic learning and a diploma that
carries weight
versus just another piece of paper that
now they're trying to figure out you
know saying do what I do with this so
awesome awesome yeah any other questions
director Larry got any other questions
awesome awesome did you read all them
books back there
a lot of them yeah there are a lot of
them are my Seminary books and uh
they're the ones that I thought were the
most important I'm sitting here looking
at all them books and realizing I'm not
as smart as I thought I was because
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everybody put you on the spot
shelf of Methodist history Herman you
know there's like a whole shelf of
Bibles and Bible commentaries it's all
great this is congratulations so
congrats thank you thank you all right
thank you very much that was really
thank you for taking the time thank you
for organizing so quickly and this this
helps us move things forward in our
complex organizations
so just let us know next step all right
yeah okay uh staff is coming at 2 30. so
thank you guys thank you thank you thank
you try to get up and enjoy this time
for the facilities
just uh yeah just an update on the
transportation
do we have a facilities mean too
congratulations
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Jonathan is no longer available for
those of you
let it be known for the record tonight
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I know I switched sides
foreign
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um
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I don't have to actually oh yeah oh my
God it's an operation she's not for me
okay
yes okay
all right well just as you guys have
thank you for allowing us to present
again uh I'm Terry Brookie I'm the
director of student transportation I'm
here with my router manager Lisa Wheeler
um we've come to you before to kind of
give you an update of our criteria that
we were applying to uh determine whether
an area is hazardous or not what we're
bringing to you today is the full plan
with maps
um of How It's applied we're going to
cover a couple of different schools to
show you how it's applied if you have
questions on any particular schools that
we don't cover your welcome to ask
questions
but I am going to turn it over to Lisa
to
representation and can you just uh
can you just tell us what it is that's
coming to the board is it a particular
question or change or it is just the
adoption of the supplemental it will be
an adoption okay once it is passed by
the local education board so our PBS
School Board it will then go to the
State Board okay so they need to have it
adopted first and I'll just go so I can
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just have everyone introduce themselves
for our probably the story right now
so let's start with
um Frank with the communications Frank
the doula
Terry Brady director of student
transportation
Lisa Wheeler Transportation routing
manager Natasha Garcia
okay
thank you
perfect
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hello I'm Herman green board member
Community representative all right Gary
Collins board member and chair of some
cities and operations committee Amy Khan
Stanford member Jonathan Garcia
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thank you okay go ahead
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so because we're only showing a few
schools today and the presentation
actually has all of the schools so you
do have the opportunity to look through
it and actually live and hate them
um how many times we're looking at today
we're going to look at four sites
um
that Clark Creston Harrison Park and
um Marysville are the sites that we're
going to look at
those
so this is Clark we're seeing here
and
um just because it's kind of difficult
to see the legend there the
um black outline is the attendance area
the yellow area is the walk boundary and
the blue area is the supplemental Hazard
area
and something to just take note of here
is that when the system uh calculates
walk distance it excludes any areas that
don't have any residences so so you can
see that there's a little bit of uh east
of 205 that's in the yellow in the walk
area but there's no houses there
everywhere east of 205 is going to get
Transportation or be eligible for
transportation
um
so for Clark uh what we're recommending
is there's no Crossing on I-205 and very
limited Crossing on division
um buses will have to be added due to it
opening up as a new site but we won't
have to add anything additional to that
for uh the supplemental Transportation
plan and you can see that there are just
a couple zones here
um One near division where just because
there's really only one Crossing there
that is
considered suitable and it's if you've
been over in that area there's like an
overpass Crossing
so so when you say opening up is a new
site that's because creative science did
not have any transport exactly yes yes
okay
um so that's pretty Clark's pretty
straightforward if you can skip to
Creston now
so creston's one of our schools that has
a larger impact due to these changes
because it's right there on Powell in
the past we've only had one bus that
transported to Preston and it just
transported a small number of students
due to the restrictions on crossing
Powell the entire area north of Powell
would be eligible for transportation and
we're estimating that that's about 74
students we would need to put an
additional route into that school even
though it's only like three blocks even
though it's only like three blocks yep
yep that's good
um
so next we'll take a look at Harrison
Park
thank you
um Harrison Park obviously is turning
into a middle school the boundary is
changing quite a bit
um this
you can see that we have Hazard areas
east of 205 so
um
and then west of 82nd and south of
Powell so we're recommending no crossing
Powell 82nd or I-205 in this area and
then there are limited Crossings in the
Stark Washington area
and so you can see that that's what
contributes to that kind of Northern
Hazard Zone
92nd on this
for his 92nd
92nd is only considered hazardous in
this small strip okay right here right
towards the uh
there's portions that are considered a
high crash Corridor and so that's what I
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yeah was just asking yeah and that's
where that designation ends it's right
there on Division
um and then if we can skip down to
Marysville
so Marysville currently doesn't have any
uh we don't provide any General Ed
transportation to Marysville we are
planning already on starting to do that
next year just with the program
balancing changes that are happening
because their catchment gets bigger
their catchment gets bigger
um and with our recommendations here it
would um we would restrict Crossing on
82nd altogether in that area so every
student that lives east of 82nd would be
eligible for transportation that
includes everybody in the lent boundary
and
um a portion of the Marysville boundary
that is east of 82nd there there's also
a small area right there around Powell
where there's just
um
there's navigation where you have to get
to a good Crossing on Colgate so
um that that additional time added
um
also puts a hazard Zone up there
um
we do have a
a lot of students in that area that have
requested transportation for various
reasons this year so I'm happy to see
that on the map
um we will need to add
an additional route on top of whatever
we are planning for I think it's two
um
so we're planning on adding two because
of uh the enrollment balancing and we'll
need to add one additional to that to
accommodate uh the uh 98 I think is what
I'm saying yeah 98 students that are
gaining eligibility
here
um
it's a pretty big number but um this
especially reflects a lot of what we've
heard from the community uh Terry and I
have attended uh community events at
um Harrison Park Bridger Marysville Lent
um we weren't I think Lane ended up
being in that snow day period so we're
going to be attending Lane in the coming
weeks
um
what we've heard a lot from folks is um
the high court or crashing crash Network
Crossings are always have been a huge
concern that's why we kind of took it in
to account when we were defining the
criteria
um we I did hear from a handful of
families at Marysville that you know
their
preference would be for there to be
infrastructural changes so they could
walk safely to school but even with the
changes that are going to happen on 82nd
we're talking 2027 before that
um is able to take place so we really
want to be able to provide
transportation for the folks who aren't
comfortable walking of course families
still want to walk their students across
82nd that's their prerogative but
um we want folks to be eligible who live
over there
and then lastly
just discussing costs
I think it's the second to last slide
um
we will be adding a handful of runs into
different sites
one actual school bus route can contain
multiple runs so basically multiple
schools can be serviced by one bus
um we also have the ability to kind of
Shuffle things around and
um
and just kind of utilize some of the uh
assets that we already have in place but
we do believe that we will need to add
one full bus route for the stpu changes
and that cost is uh about a hundred and
ten thousand dollars
you're trying to be clear about
separating what's going to happen with
the balancing versus what's going to be
happening with the supplemental
Transportation Plan update so you may
have heard numbers different from that
when we've been talking about the
boundary updates but this is just
because of these new criteria we've put
in place that will be one extra bus
but Dan would some of would you guys get
some money from what we set aside for
the um a Southeast guiding Coalition
implementation
changes I don't believe there's any for
transportation because these are ongoing
costs these are on purpose
we are getting some for physical
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improvements for groups but this we
would get reimbursed at the 75 percent
yeah 70 70. as long as it's adopted by
the board and then by uh the state line
the State Board yeah you have to
identify 30 000 or the 30 of the budget
for the first year it certainly would be
eligible for some of that are set aside
from Southeast guiding coalition how are
you I'd grab it yeah
um any other questions any other schools
that you're interested in looking at I
just
um should have access to all of the
schools if you want to peruse yeah their
Maps
and we've been providing the maps when
we go out to the community events once
it's all adopted we will you know start
a page on our website
so that folks can come in and look at
themselves too
the the communities that we've heard
from most recently are some of those
pockets of Ida B Wells that don't have
um that don't have
reasonable trimester service they may
have TriMet service by some calculation
but it actually involves like ridiculous
transfers and you know two-hour commutes
and all that so
that's who I have been hearing from the
most Dan and I are going to be replying
to one of those
parents here in the next day or two I
have been in conversation with TriMet
they've created a new route that that
parent will be able to or that student
will now be able to get pick up and drop
off directly from their neighborhood to
Ida B Wells I think there's a couple
pockets in there yeah
I I come from a neighborhood that does
not have
you know we had to fight for getting
trauma to change the times of the buses
because they were only like twice an
hour and they didn't sync up with bell
times and yet there was no uh no yellow
bus transportation for students
you guys got trying to change the bus
hours well PPS advocated awesome it was
only twice a
um
well
different
types
most of the places that don't have
yellow bus service have TriMet service
that works for them was my point I got
you I'm just missing that gets kids to
school when they need to get to school
but some places don't and so
okay
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I have a question oh yeah so what's the
total number of students that are going
to
um that's going to gain eligibility
total
I can get that number
thank you mean for phase one yeah from
this it's like 78 plus
oh yeah I think it's almost 98. yeah I
didn't know if you had like that have a
list by school it's not totaled up okay
no worries no worries and another
question is is one extra bus going to be
efficient
to be able to so there's all these
additional kids it's a good question so
there are a few routes that service
um a few sites that currently have a
really low ridership
um or a low number of students that are
eligible so there are sites where we
would be filling those buses to capacity
in order to accommodate the supplemental
plan changes so one extra best to be
fine yeah
yeah
no we should have had two we had two
buses and our kid and we I mean it's
those issues as those come up because
honestly we're basing off of this year's
numbers we don't really know what the
numbers are going to be next year
um we'll take those on a case-by-case
basis
explore our options we're usually able
to kind of move things around in order
to add an additional run into a site if
we need to and as I stated earlier this
is simply the supplemental
Transportation Plan update changes we
have other buses planned to be added for
the southeast cutting coalition
is it fair for me to say that the
supplemental Transportation plan is for
students who live in within walking
distance but face some sort of hazardous
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condition as defined by the value
absolutely yep that was the exact
definitions okay
awesome
any other questions comments I just know
this is a ton of work and getting
getting down there with your mat so
thank you thank you all right I have
another questions or comments in the
Germans one thing we'll ask is this is
going to go to the board next yeah if
you guys want to do the informal do you
recommend the board of course will be at
the board but oh so you're getting us to
do our formal informal things so that it
can be pushed up so do I need to make a
recommendation or does Gary yeah
somebody should make a recommendation
you can make a recommendation to move it
to the full board there we go okay I
think that's a good idea everybody in
favor thumbs up thumbs up
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all right
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