2022-11-14 PPS School Board Work Session
District | Portland Public Schools |
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Date | 2022-11-14 |
Time | 16:00:00 |
Venue | PESC Windows Room |
Meeting Type | work |
Directors Present | missing |
Documents / Media
Notices/Agendas
Materials
11 14 Work Session PPS LSF Presentation REVISED (6d4d3f882f1f4535).pdf 11_14 Work Session PPS LSF Presentation REVISED
FY20-23 Parent Fund FTE Data (08e30f8650f966c0).pdf FY20-23 Parent Fund FTE Data
FY2018-19 PPS Parent Fund Awards (da87f8b9f20bfbe7).pdf FY2018-19 PPS Parent Fund Awards
FY2019-20 PPS Parent Fund Awards (8d5612d01a275b5e).pdf FY2019-20 PPS Parent Fund Awards
FY2020-21 PPS Parent Fund Awards (0130bb7f29dc13d1).pdf FY2020-21 PPS Parent Fund Awards
FY2021-22 PPS Parent Fund Awards (f774559da103db57).pdf FY2021-22 PPS Parent Fund Awards
FY2022-23 PPS Parent Fund Awards (7884c0a702b50d7f).pdf FY2022-23 PPS Parent Fund Awards
2022-23 PPS Parent Fund + Carryover by School (4ac5db6f8e906448).pdf 2022-23 PPS Parent Fund + Carryover by School
FY 2017-18 to FY 21-22 Dollars Raised by Local School Foundations (Affiliated and Independent) (764b88ca3b2c32f8).pdf FY 2017-18 to FY 21-22 Dollars Raised by Local School Foundations (Affiliated and Independent)
Report Targeted Community Engagement School-Based Fundraising June 2022 (1) (c928629330d2f0b2).pdf Report Targeted Community Engagement School-Based Fundraising_June_2022 (1)
Report from Meeting with Dr. Martin Luther King Jr School PTA Leaders 11 10 22 (13bb92f7a38e30af).pdf Report from Meeting with Dr. Martin Luther King Jr School PTA Leaders 11_10_22
Letter from CFO to Independent Foundations 4 25 22 (d529e9eeb6615ec6).pdf Letter from CFO to Independent Foundations_4_25_22
April 2019 Memo Re- Transition of LSF to The Fund for PPS (fa7e15418f47036d).pdf April 2019 Memo Re- Transition of LSF to The Fund for PPS
FY20-23 LSF FTE Data (88ab1551c63b6a84).pdf FY20-23 LSF FTE Data
Minutes
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Transcripts
Event 1: PPS Board of Education Work Session - 11/14/2022
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this work session of the board of
education for November 14 2022 is called
to order
good evening everyone
um thank you for being here tonight uh
this is our first work session to
discuss potential changes to districts
Foundation fundraising policy
um the current timeline just to give a
little bit of background what we're
doing here tonight and what's coming up
the current timeline
um is that we're holding this work
session tonight we're going to have
another work session on December 6th
where hopefully we're going to be able
to give board direction to staff
regarding any potential changes that the
board wants to see in the fundraising
policy
after that December 6th meeting the work
is going to shift to the policy
committee thank you director Lowry
um for teaching that through a policy
committee which is then going to based
on that direction from the board it's
going to craft a detailed policy that is
expected to come back to the board for
consideration
final approval March
I just want to acknowledge right up
front and I sent an email about this
earlier if you haven't seen it um there
are quite a few documents that are being
provided this evening
um and that I know that some of you
including myself have not had time to
review either the presentation that we
received on Friday or the historical
information
fundraising that staff has pulled
together and is that what's in this book
with Roseanne so thank you so much thank
you Kara thank you so much for the
binders this is really very very helpful
to get the material
you know
um so just given that I know it was very
it was very late and somewhat last
minute so I just want to recognize for
everyone that it's okay to be at this
meeting without having uh fully reviewed
the PowerPoint without having to do the
historical documents the goal um is I
think director Lowry working with staff
was really to set this meeting up as a
way to begin to ground us and introduce
this um really talk about some of the
history talk about where we are right
now talk about some of the data
um tonight as well
but that's really the goal of tonight
we're gonna have plenty of time to ask
questions tonight we're going to have
time to ask questions over the next few
weeks and then after we get through all
the materials tonight I will come back
to sort of ask um the sense of the board
of whether the current timeline that is
made up work session tonight work
session of December 6th moving to the
policy committee from there
um and uh whether that still works or
whether the board
um wants to potentially uh revise that
time another work session when you need
to push back um so so be thinking about
that tonight as well as we're going
through this material
so I'm really excited to get going on
this conversation I mean I shouldn't say
the conversation's been going on for a
long time I'm excited to bring the whole
board together tonight um to have this
conversation and begin moving forward on
this this this body of work and it's one
of the things that I really wanted at
the beginning of this year uh as chair I
want to make sure that we we take a good
look at this and and I think there are
some revisions that I'd like to see in
the foundation policy but again it's
gonna be after the will of the board
um in terms of where folks want to go
but I'm excited to have this work
session tonight and I believe
great thank you so much
um so as as you shared uh there's a lot
of information here the majority of this
information you all did receive on
October 25th uh over the year over the
boat you know and so this is a a
different uh composition of the material
that you've received previously so uh in
that Spirit uh let's move forward with
the uh with the next slide here for the
objectives of tonight as uh chair Scott
pointed out we want to build uh I just
want to spend the first 20 minutes
building a shared understanding of the
timeline for completing revisions to the
fundraising policies you want to spend
the next section around making sure we
review the data of the parent fundrais
of the portals of local school
foundations for the last five years
how that translates to the purchases of
FTE uh we'll do a little bit of a dive
there we'll review some para some data
around the previous parent fund and then
lastly we will review uh Community
feedback that we've gathered uh from
previous sessions as it's just a matter
of practice here are our Norms stay
engaged truth experience discomfort
expect and accept non-closure listen for
understanding empathy
and assume good intentions
so as director Scott chair Scott pointed
out today we are having our first work
session on the uh where we're reviewing
uh this information
uh on December 6th uh our hope is that
we would get together again as a with
the board to hear uh General correction
uh from you all on shifts to the
fundraising policy we would reconvene as
a policy Committee in January with a
policy committee to to make to propose
and amend any changes to policy uh
fundraising policy based on the general
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direction by the board and then with the
hope that the board posts to ratify this
in March I know that chair Scott is
going to ask board members at the end of
the board meeting uh there are any
revisions that you'd like to make here
uh so we can
at that point
so just want to set the context here um
as you all know fundraising is a dynamic
it's a multi-faceted uh but today we're
here to talk about local school
foundations uh specifically Affiliated
and independent foundations that we'll
get to what those titles and definitions
all mean but I just want to give you a
sense of some ways that you might hear
PPS parents giving to our schools uh
folks donate time resources money uh to
school ptas uh to parent-led non-profit
organizations to boost your clubs to
Local School foundations and to direct
directly to school so those are just
some some ways they're
exclusive they're not I'm sure that I'm
missing some but it just gives you a
sense that you know it's more than just
local school foundations uh it's more
dollars Con in a variety of ways to
schools can I ask Phil about that
because
um so are the bubbles relative they're
not they're not the scale for
illustration purposes only and then are
some of those restricted funds in terms
of how they can be sure I think for the
majority yeah I think most most I would
say most donors have an intent uh where
when they when they make the donation so
you know they're giving to Local School
foundations there's an intent that that
build dollars are going to go to
Staffing for example uh uh dollars that
go to booster clubs the intent would
probably be Athletics right
um yes so what
historically has been one way that
parents made a leverage dollars to PBS
was by giving to the local option
uh which translates to about 100 million
a year and then also to our bonds
changed over time but historically
um
so uh there's a lot here on this
timeline uh I just want to highlight a
few things to again ground us uh so uh
in May 12 1994 the PPS Foundation was
established uh this was after the
passage of measure five in 1990 we see
the fundraising escalate
um and so a new uh
a new uh guidance was issued uh by the
school board of May 12 1994.
uh in 1998 uh under resolution 9577 uh
the board updated guidelines
um that is around local school
foundations that did two specific things
uh and approved it it made it clear that
local school foundations were only to be
used for Staffing and the exemption of
five thousand dollars the first five
thousand dollars would be Exempted
in 2007 the board passed resolution 3820
that Exempted that it increased
exemption to ten thousand dollars uh and
I'll fast forward to 2019 when the fund
for Portland Public Schools was
established and the efforts of managing
the local independent foundations
emerged under the fund for PPS
the uh the other kind of line or a date
that I'll uh share here is in 2021 we
did adjust our rules uh so that
Foundation dollars paid for actual fde
position and that Independent School
foundations provide funding for FTE at
the beginning of the year and you can
see uh the April 2022 memo uh that
highlights that from the CFO lombarded
so again grounding us there are two
policies in the school the school board
policies the first one District
Foundation
7.10.03 uh really the the purpose of
that policy is to uh is to establish the
foundation to say that there is a
foundation for the purposes of accepting
holding and administrating funds and
gifts to the district for special and
general purposes
7.10.02 p is pairing groups into schools
and all it does uh today it recognizes
that parent organizations are necessary
and important to achieve student
achievement goals established by schools
again I want to highlight some rules
here and and I want to be very clear
these rules were passed by resolution
but by the board not by policy and so
the rules would be that lsfs are
required to split every dollar used to
fund Staffing positions 1 32 thirds that
00h 10m 00s
was established in 1994. uh the first
ten thousand dollars Exempted that was
the first established in 98 at 5 000 as
I mentioned and updated in 2007 to 10
000. and lfs are the only authorized
fundraising vehicle for finding staff
positions at PPS and that was
established in 1998. Jonathan can I just
ask I'm sure that clarification what's
the what was the reason why you I mean I
understand there's a difference between
policies and rules in terms of how we
target them is there any practical
difference there that you were pointing
out I mean if we adopt something by
resolution was the same weight as a
policy
who I would refer to our general counsel
yeah
sure I think I I'm making the
differentiation because I think it's not
in board policy now and so there's
questions about whether or not we were
Faith or there's Fidelity to this these
rules but they have been there's been
Fidelity rules for the less you know
since they've been established I think
that's maybe the the difference I'm
trying to make a differentiation there
it's good to be exactly yeah yeah
so the next uh slide here uh just wants
to I just want to know uh just uh for
for you know during the last 20 years
about half of our elementary schools
have an active fundraising effort to
fund School staff uh just a third of our
middle schools uh four out of nine high
schools and about 60 percent of our pkas
this current school year this current
fiscal year if you will of this current
Academic Year we saw a decline of minus
five at the elementary uh same at Middle
School minus one at the high school and
minus two at the PK so just want to
point out what those what that is how do
you define active sure uh thanks for the
question so I think uh there are three
things that you'll see and we're going
to get those to those uh selected a bit
there's active foundations inactive
foundations and independent foundations
active foundations active Affiliated
foundations are those organizations or
schools that have parent leadership a
president and a Treasurer and in an
activity fundraising activity that
happens in the school towards ft so
that's the affiliated
the active foundations
and so just a terrifying question so
each of those schools that are active
did they actually buy FTE or is there a
difference between those that have I
mean there's a difference between having
a leadership and raising money and
actually purchasing FTE
I think they they all they all strive
towards I put that that way they strive
towards uh purchasing FPE
um I think you know I I don't I don't
want to speak out a turn that's a good
question I could come back to you and I
was just going to say an example I have
is when I was the president at Sellwood
one year we didn't raise enough to to we
we didn't purchase FTE that year we
saved it for the next year so we could
purchase FTE from two years worth of
fundraising yeah yeah I guess that would
be to me being pretty easy to figure out
yeah yeah absolutely so I just don't
highlight that's a question you guys can
get back before December 6th yeah like
so uh okay so yeah and I think active
versus inactive uh in that so I like to
say every school every school welcomes
private donations right dollars that
come in uh so if you
what's a school that doesn't have a
doctor
Arleta if you're saying I have ten
thousand dollars that I want to give to
our leader you can get it you can and
you know you can donate it to the local
school Foundation they don't have an
active Foundation they're not actively
recruiting but we will take that money
you know and and so that's what you'll
see if you see you know in some of your
data under the unaffiliated uh data
there's no there's dollars there if
someone may donate fifty dollars monthly
they've been doing it for 20 years and
they just kind of stayed there right so
you see these these dollars in
unaffiliated independent foundations are
that were independent they they have
their own board of directors they have
their own operations they have their own
501c3 uh they operate independently and
uh and have their own independent board
of directors
operationally what that means is that we
invoice right invoice to them as
previously previously we invoice and now
we're now they project what they're
going to pay for in the in the next
school year and and right one big check
basically beginning of the theory at the
beginning of the year yeah
so those are the three the differences
between
so that leads to I'll stop there this is
just stop there any questions comments
say so once active isn't active also
Affiliated or correct so active third
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uh
inactive Affiliates there's a list in
the front of the binder if that's
helpful then for anyone of those schools
yeah
yes okay
any other questions comments about this
section just have a comment on the 28
years of commuting generosity
um since this is just a small amount of
moral funding and the rest consumer
Community as well
it seems to me it seems relevant because
there's there's a lot happened
externally
from
1994 measure five measurement bypassed
to today so we have a Student Success
act 100 million dollars a year annually
in the local option
PPS is the only District in the state
that gets 30 million dollars a year from
The Gap Bond measure uh 98 funds and the
art tax which collectively add about 150
million dollars a year
um what was it was not the case
which was not the case
when originally the whole model started
um the other thing I think would be
interesting to add into is when the
equity funding was I'm added in because
that
changed
um I think also how
how we looked at
um how our school should be found in
terms of stuff
Equity yeah or the parent fund no no the
people outside because that's our staff
um
piece because that's really what
I mean I'm looking at like where are the
big levers that changed that change
things
financially for a lot of our schools
I I do think it's that's a really
critical point that you're making about
our staffing formula because I know I've
talked to so many people in the
community who have heard some
information about our conversations
about foundations and they have no idea
that our we fund our schools rather
disproportionately based on need and
that in fact schools with foundations
are our lowest funded schools in the
whole district and most parents when you
have that conversation they're like oh I
had no idea but that's understandable
because it didn't used to be that way
so the other thing
um I think
it's just useful is data on
parent support for our local option
because one one of the themes I heard in
the community engagement is hey we want
to do this from
I think all parties like we want to like
we should all be in it together
um raising funds and that is the highest
leverage way in which parents can raise
money for our schools which is
options I'd like to see where the fund
for PPS that they don't know how much
fun for the PS and individual
foundations or ptas have provided over
the years for our local option yeah well
I can tell you the fund for PPS was
established in 2019
um so it would have only only gone
through maybe one uh cycle uh election
cycle and the fund was not in that
position uh then
um in terms of a historical look at from
All Hands raise I'm happy to reach out
to all hands race to see
that was I was actually a chair and that
was determined
uh basically illegal in about two
thousand
uh
about 2008 it was the first Foundation
of donor intent to fund campaigns with
money that had been intended for direct
investments in school so that's when the
Portland schools Foundation stopped
making those
um
institutional commitments to the thought
to the levies actually that's true
because like for the friends of Lincoln
and thank you Peyton um because they
have always generously support through
what collections in the bonds
um
so I guess that would be a good data
point to have whether there's
any sort of legal reason why we can
provide that too they actually have an
illegal is just a violation of donor
Tech which is for uh
those are different questions as to the
effect on the donor of making the
lottery making sure that we're
Foundation expending I don't want
Lincoln or any of our other friends that
have helped us raise money to have done
anything I think we've
but friends of Lincoln is also unique
because they're raising for everything
and this will not just there's other
examples and the funds given money so I
think we should just be very clear
all right so we're gonna move on to the
next uh section which is uh local school
foundations by the dollars
so as you can see in this slide here
um you know we provided you with five uh
years of data
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the what you see at the top is the the
purple that is total of active
non-active and independent total arrays
so as you can see we go from 2017-18 at
4.2 million dollars to last our 20 20 21
at 2.2 or 2.0 2.7 this last uh fiscal
year uh it also right in between the
purple and the green you can see both
the independent and the non-active or
sorry the independent and the active
Affiliated multiple foundations I think
it's important to draw to to draw
attention to the blue and red line uh
because so just to know and you have
this this document in front of you with
the number with the list of of schools
we're talking about the blue being eight
independent foundations being able to
you know who are raising in 2017 18 2.3
versus 32 Affiliated that raised about 1
foreign
to understand the data that we're
talking about eight independent
foundations who raised you know again
two 2.3 versus the 1.0 to equal to 4.2
uh in 1718. but all of this you know
represents again yeah and I just want to
provide that context less than one
percent of the average schools total
resources
um and we went through
um the definitions of all of these
earlier so
move on to the next slide this is the
total dollars raised by local school
foundations as a reminder
um the formula if you will is uh the
first ten thousand dollars that are
raised are Exempted and then everything
else above that it gets uh distributed
one-third two-thirds uh so as you can
see here the two-thirds is the bottom
dark blue and the one-third that is
contributed to the parent fund is just
above there
so just um
this is going to be a super rough
estimate but there's not the number of
schools here but he said there was 8 and
32 for 40 you say we have 18 schools so
say in 21 22
40 schools raised 1.9 and
40s school and I kept it and then 40
schools
800 were distributed 810 I know not
always about it because they did not get
Equity returns but
that's a fair yeah that's a fair
generalization yeah
I also I think we'll know just on this
previous slide here you know and you can
see the dev happen between 20 1920 2021
that's when the pendant hit so you can
imagine a lot of the the flux that
happened there
the next slide
um uh is dollars Race by school this
last fiscal year and I just wanted to
share with you a comparison here you can
see down the way uh at the there you
know with 272 000 at the top gray at 17
000 again anything that's in Orange and
I apologize I did Miss Grant at the
bottom uh those are that just means high
schools just for comparison state
okay so there's 31 here
versus 40.
we have just because last year everybody
didn't vote
probably
here
prosper
ity
so Hosford did not raise anyone last
year
too much
experts on the non-active not the
Affiliated actually so
right here
this year they
will make a big situation
I'll get back to you to see which ones
are missing in here
um you said you said how many were in
here well I I just had a 31
and just the previous page that there
was 40 that were either independent or
active
yeah
well in this active if you look at this
list she gave us Jonathan for this so
that's the part of the problem this is
the 22-23 Year this is 21 22 so on the
22 23 we have 26 Affiliated active and
eighth independent
it might be different
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here's what it is so and and this might
just be on my part so I'm looking at the
data that you have which is you have all
of that data in here I'm looking at the
presentation was that yeah
no I know so but you also the one of the
attachments was the one with five years
of historical data
um that information for example has
repeat uh so uh as you can see reconed
2021 uh
no that wasn't
I'll have to get back here that's fine I
guess where
I'm Chris it's 21 22 versus
22 23 22 23 is currently happening so
they're fundraising as we speak
this is last year's fiscal year
fundraising dollars for for that pays
for this year that pays for this fiscal
year
so we'll get back to you to see which
ones are missing I'm sure
well I'll make sure thank you for
catching there
expect any discussion or questions
behind
um
in the last year's
policy committee meetings we've talked
about the changes that were made
to
um
because the practice used to be you
could
by the staff so here are the staff and
then pay for it during the year and that
got back whether but it was
until June 30th and I'm curious but then
we found out later we've moved to August
31st what was the reason it went from
the 30th back two months later and then
how many schools
like raise money during that time
periods I'm assuming they
I'm assuming that that's it got extended
and schools raising more money that how
much money was raised in that time
period beyond what
we've been told was can be the deadline
yeah
um
we don't I we don't know what they
raised in that time period I don't know
that they were actively fundraising it
it was more of they were still trying to
understand the amounts they were being
invoiced and finalizing their payments
for June and then making a plan for what
they were going to pay by doing
different
projections of if we paid for this
position what will it be yeah I think it
wasn't like
so and and the documents are in your
your uh
packet in April of 2021 we made the
first announcement to the independent
foundations that those changes were
happening so that was April 2021. a year
later April 2022
uh the CFO which you have a included in
your packet a memo where he indicated
that we provided two extra months
um to to make sure that folks could make
the transition again understanding that
you know it was a new transition for
foundations and we wanted uh we wanted
to be adaptable uh not punitive in how
we engage them I could tell you uh
we received all but two before the 831
and we received the other two uh on nine
eight
and
it's just one actually
so they got they got interesting because
the other reform which was people were
actually paying for
a staff person that they said so they
got an invoice like
you're purchasing an ADA this is what
the cost is to the district they got
invoiced
for that one so so they designate like
here here's the one and then they get
they get invoices and then they were
going to pay by the by June 30th but
and study deadline thought and they said
yeah in April of 2022 clarified that
you're giving an additional two months
to provide them that is the last time we
are doing this moving forward as was
indicated in that April 22 memo that
moving forward June 30th edition
so I just want to be clear we were we
were trying to be um
foreign
voices are given in May and so there is
I wanted to see the how the year ended
and then make their plan with their
principle
I have copies of checks for
checks all right we can move on to the
next item which is the FTE funded by
localhost confederations
00h 30m 00s
again I just wanted to set the context
here uh less than one percent of
teachers and licensed PPS staff are
funded by looks School foundations and
just over one percent of teaching
assistants and classified PPS staff are
funded by local school foundations
here is uh this information for the last
four years uh so of the app how many FTE
were funded by local school foundations
by category
so as you can see I'll start with the
light blue education assistance we see
in 1920 uh 24.8 9.3 and 21 and we start
to see a uphill 14.74 and 17 uh 0.49 so
Jonathan this includes all the ft e
purchases so those purchased by local
school foundations and those purchased
also by the PPS pair now this is just
local school foundations in the next
section we have the FTE funded by
parents it would be good to see that all
together because it's all actually going
to the same thing okay
and teachers we see in 1920 and go from
20 11
this is last year
5.29 in this current year 6.86 so
there's 6.86 FTE teachers
funded by the local school of admissions
this current school year across 80
schools
um and as if folks will know half of
half of our schools that are active that
have active foundation so
and then you can see some of the other
numbers here the three uh the three
biggest speed education assistant
teacher and administrative and office
support
cases
as for Jonathan you're presenting to the
um
policy committee you use Bridal mile as
an example of them using their
Foundation dollars
um to
um address
some of the
um the needs of historical under service
students of these FTE how many of them
does the District staff direct what they
what money spent on or is it accessible
based decision
these are all school-based decisions
so this is
um the total FP funded by local school
foundations for the last four years
uh so as you can see here
um over the last 40 years you have done
a way more rehearse aims worth Lincoln
Richmond Forest Park Llewellyn Buckman
at the top of our or something
apocalypse so these are schools with a
minimum of one FTE purchase in the last
four years
just in the same order as the next page
but it's a four year so it's actually
different correct okay so there's four
years total and this one is just looking
at this current
calendar your current school year so
what's actually happening in our schools
today
what was raised last year what was
raised last year correct
so here uh this is I like this graph
maybe I don't know it's just the colors
and maybe for me um but you can see the
way in which uh these these dollars or
these FPS kind of shift so you see uh
educational assistance uh 24 9 14. so
you see that going up as we go along but
we see you know uh
Folks at the computer positions not
being paid for as much in these last few
years
um and then you could see four point
three point three point three point five
administrative and office support
I definitely would like to see one graph
that shows it all together with the
parent fund what they bought on the same
same place
Jonathan there was this licensing
this one another one that's the 2023.
this one
yeah I just went through it sorry yeah
sorry that was the four-year one and
then this is the this current this is
what's happening in our school right now
yeah so I think what would be helpful
and actually for all the schools is to
look at it from
um
because one thing that I'm interested in
having a deeper conversation is these
schools that don't apply don't
um
um Equity funding and yet they still
have
um
students that are combined under served
and directly certified
um and how do they get any just any
discretionary dollars
um
Staffing formula and yet they still
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serve a combined underserved
so to get after that though I think
um this
it's okay but to look at like the
demographics
um so when I look at Dunaway like five
percent direct certified combined under
served as 28 black zero Native American
zero and you can do that all the way
across but I think that gives us then
like and also then who gets
20 to get a fuller picture of
um
and I think a lot more about what we
heard about the class sizes is people
who might have a student who has been
underserved or is struggling and they
don't have any way that maybe they're
not for that foundation so there's no
EAS or whatever instead of like how do
you
um how do you um how's the district look
at some providing support for
those students just the satin formula
because there's a there's a way to
support those students if you have a
foundation on but not if you are in that
sort of middle
yeah no I think that's a that's a great
question
so I mean it's the right question and
just one we've we've contemplated for a
couple of years actually so I know we're
talking about foundations here you saw
at our last work session you know the RS
validate
our designated State identified schools
have been getting funded 52-54 more than
the average school
um and we're glad that a lot of our
schools have been exited question for us
as we've been meeting the school
leadership teams is you know and of
those interventions and supports which
are the most important to hang on to
because we want to do a gradual release
those same supports or probably would
have gotten the results
but what we really want to fine-tune our
next evolution of our budget is there's
a whole group of schools in the middle
and even those here that have uh student
groups that are not yet a grade level
expectation but also the benefits from
some capacity to provide targeted
interventions and supports and so how do
we ensure that there's a mechanism and a
reserve to be able to implement a more
holistic uh view across our school
portfolio so every school has an ability
to make sure the second graders are in a
grade level or the ninth graders getting
support in mathematics or whatever it is
because the street you just asked the
question some of the foundations are are
absolutely
plug it may not necessarily be a
targeted intervention or a set of
students at a grade level and we feel an
obligation and responsibility to make
sure that that's in place so the only
question is
with all the competing priorities can we
make sure that we have enough resources
telling people money
to support students who have been
underserved at any one of our schools
because we know they exist in that
basement and maybe a little different
way to frame that I've had this
conversation with Chief David Deal many
times and this is probably for me my my
top priority in our budget process now
like how can we direct more of our
resources to follow the students because
I've seen what it's like to have you
know 200
historically underserved school kids in
a building that receives 0 Equity
dollars zero you know additional
Staffing talk to James McGee about how
he
does everything he can to try to find
ways to support his black students
typically but he's got none of those
other sources of funding so as instead
of just like having these thresholds
that are based on the percentage of your
student body how could we be more
creative about following student with
the resources that they need and deserve
yeah so as you know the board has seen
we've triaged our media schools first
and we've seen you know the combination
of practices and shifts and strong
leadership in those schools we've seen
the progress we know that that would be
of
or to a whole lot of other schools that
have students
not achieving it
so that's where we're hoping this spring
uh superintense budget recognition
starts to speak to how do we how do we
get to the broader set of students
across schools and the system again it
depends on all the priorities
just just a big thank you and this is
really useful and I would actually love
as ERS is doing continue to do its work
you know what we got was sort of
designated schools and non-designated
schools and it would be really
interesting to see is is there currently
a cliff there or if we sort of showed
Resources disaggregated by all the
schools is there a general government
here are you saying is we want a general
job that's that's the goal from you know
how we get there so the resources
available to any school Community those
are within our sphere of influence right
for me it's whether they're officially
on the state accountability list or not
they haven't arrived at the level
want them to exhibit in the way of
vaccines
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um you know what level of resources will
make available there you know correctly
releasing a little bit that's why it's
important that we're asking our
principals right now five to seven extra
fdps you've had over the last number of
years while including has not refreshed
those
which two or three were the most
important you know if you had to
rankings which ones made the most
difference there's also some promising
practice there that you know we can
learn from where other schools also have
a native students for HR on our board
goals
um so yeah it's an issue of how we as a
school system are going to make sure
that there's a level of resource
available that's that shouldn't to get
it many more that's sort of the next
level of schools and also we need a
proxy because we have less schools that
are CSI TSI we need another we're doing
some internal conversation around well
how do I identify as a demographics is
it it's a free reduced launch is it what
are other ways to making sure that we're
continuing to prioritize
that's across the school system I mean
if I were to summarize Sandra is like
there's steps and they're pretty big
steps like 80 you get a half of getting
a specialist and some other and some
other things if you have 80 percent
um combined underserved and then so you
have some steps the foundation like I
think makes the steps less big
um The Rise are less big
um but then you get to then you get to a
cliff if you're at 15
um if you have fewer than 15 direct
certified and fewer than 40 percent
combined underserved like that's when
you just get like what everybody else
gets and so if you want to change that
and help any of those students
um who might need extra assistance
you're doing it through your regular
Staffing
which is you know pretty much dictated
to like right you're gonna do this much
art this much PE and just you know so
many classroom teachers you get seven
it's not it's a
yeah no I'm glad we're all recognizing
the need and an approach that
would help any more of our school
communities and students and then we get
back to the bigger issue in the room
which is that you know Oregon's not at
the Quality education model the state
doesn't sufficiently fund our schools
yes there's been lots of strides made
but we know that we we don't actually
receive the resources we need to do the
things that our students need to get
them to the level that we love to see as
a board
yeah but Rich conversation uh I'd like
to go down yes go for it thank you uh Fe
continued positions I thought it was
important to share you know if you
double click and when you say teachers
you know like uh you know you hear a lot
of conversations or prepare dialogue
about you know oh these all paid for
teachers as you can see here it pays for
uh contributes to assistance and
teachers and this double click here and
you can see
um you know uh
the biggest areas are the K5 homeroom
sure
I want to know where some is not
involved core classrooms should actually
say 6 12 per classroom so that's just a
accident on my part didn't want to make
a change what was that Jonathan where it
says 912 core classroom
should say 612 and the the reference
just if you want to look at the data the
data is also included in these sheets
and you can send a this was all pulled
out of
assistant
from this this information so all of
this data comes there's original sources
right here so if you wanna look at that
so that's where I noticed that some of
the secondary core teachers were
including middle school so it was that's
why this is
across the whole District correct
I'm just curious It's a required subject
why our schools having to buy
a small amount of PE is that because
they're being given like 0.8
what I've heard uh is that a lot of some
of one of uh class sizes to go down to
in in the instance for example about
physics class uh there's a desire to
bring classrooms
no one doing PE this year right yeah
nobody's funding PE this year last year
and it was going to the year before was
49.9 so I can look at what school and
get back to you to what's specific
so let's
end up being a load issue for those
teachers that you got one teacher in a
K5 building who has every single kid in
the whole school for eight years yeah so
it looks like let's see in 2020 axis uh
0.1 2021 Buckman .09
uh Dunaway point two in
2021.2 and done away 2022
Reiki 0.25 in 2020 Skyline
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0.638 2020
but as you can see so the foundations
are buying up hours
going from point eight to a full FTE
could look like that probably yeah if
you're staying at 0.2 then it's probably
yeah
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all right
this is the same type chart uh just with
the assisted position since you can see
the majority if not I mean all all but
all all you know the majority
overwhelming majority are in elementary
education education assistants
and
it's a
a different type of equity
um
but if
if foundations are allowed to purchase
FTE
and they do that at the end of the year
my assumption is there's no school
that's for example purchasing in
an EA an education assistant who isn't
actually there or they haven't actually
hired
like you don't start the school year
with a unfilled EA position
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right
so that's a good assumption and this is
this is like a kind of a parking lot
issue to like how to dress solitude
if all the foundation EAS
um
are filled and we have unfilled EA
positions at the beginning of the school
year
how is that impacting Equity
um same thing with teacher Staffing
position so just think about how we make
sure that every school
who needs the EA whether it's paid for
by a foundation
for the district
has that
that positions filled
um because we know all the foundation
ones are filled yeah that's a good
observation for the Times we're in when
you're quite a moment in time when the
talent pool is limited then those folks
are already situated because even if we
made a decision which we should Ponder
is in PPS we're going to provide a
kindergarten PA in every classroom
be able to find them
right so there's the question of what's
what's feasible to be implemented but it
does create this dilemma of what the
body the Personnel that we do have uh
it's a being situated in some schools
and the reason I ask is you know
sometimes I look at somebody like people
are just Well Visit you look at their
Staffing before you go there I'm like
hey this is like pretty well staff
school I'm like yeah but we have five
vacancies and it's sort of like
on paper it looks like they're fully
fully staffed they either you know
sometimes have long-term subs or a bunch
of openings so just think about how we
address that that piece of the equity
everybody listening consider replying to
PPS
I'm wondering talking about the talent
the telephone question
around like teaching programs at Lewis
and Clark State for instance to use
their second year students or wait
I'm offered creative brainstorming and
we are in close contact with every
College event in the region and Beyond
uh we're present in all kinds of
recruitment fairs we're putting the word
out
various mediums and sites and we're
working with tesbc to see where's where
can we eliminate some of these
institutional barriers
that's on top of Walmart room your own
programming classified
teaching positions if possible uh
hopefully encourage some people to
consider uh publica through a lot of
emergency sub experience maybe they're
giving it another thought I don't want
to take the learn set of chief of a
charge
bigger topic we also differentiate our
support to schools with new principals
right so who haven't been able to carry
a number of Staffing and csips high
schools during the Staffing process so
we have different changes support to
schools
struggle more with
us you all are familiar with this slide
here you saw it last week at the
presentation for BRS but as a reminder
together to just differentiating
Staffing ratios an equity formula uh
direct approximately 40 more staff to
higher needs schools and students so as
you can see here a school a with no
designation this is what they would get
in a medium K5 Elementary School here at
hbps well about 350 students and so this
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is a comparison tool just to you know
provide context uh General context here
if you're a TSI School you will get 2.5
FTD above and beyond School a if you're
a title a title one only school then
you're looking at four FTE or 25 21
above and beyond School a and CSI
schools are 7.2 or 38 so again this is
this was in your packet last week so
what we added here what we asked IRS to
add is you know including Foundation
funded at the East uh
so this is based on as you can see base
Foundation FTE you know for the medium
K5 School of 350 and 58 students again
this is just a comparison tool we know
that the numbers are are not 0.4 they're
they're much higher you know in some
instances so the floor and others so uh
you know you're looking at point four
FTP addition to those non-designation
non-designated schools and so then that
brings down you know the differences
just slightly by point four as you can
see here I just want to make sure your
your point here is one of magnitude
we're right 40 increase funds through
our sort of Equity Fund it is
far dwarfs than any impact of the
foundation for us okay
fairly simple way to look at that which
I don't think you included in here but
it's in our volume two of our budget
book it's just dollars per student in a
given building because that includes
Foundation funding and then it includes
all the inputs from our staffing formula
and it just lays it out really starkly
that we we see almost double
between
those at the top of those at the bottom
yeah which is essential which is
intentional yes and it's intentional
absolutely yeah I will again just
highlight in your packet you have data
um the credit provided in different
different ways as possible so you have
it by school at the funded by school by
fiscal year you have it by
um total sum by school you have it by
type of type of position you have it by
a double click subcategory as well you
have it by bargaining unit uh and then
you have the raw data so again we're
trying to provide all the information
for you all to make the decision
um
informed conversation about the
direction of definitions
some Curious um
so you take like one of the
schools on the raising more dollars the
days
do you think that makes a measurable
difference from an academic standpoint
I mean I guess well it depends which
students were talking about but they're
assisting and supporting also uh I
recall we saw a slide last week that
showed
uh
our schools that were not benefiting
from our equity center and school
budgeting and Staffing they're still 70
proficient
and yet these School communities noticed
needs would like to enrich the program
they're expanding offerings
um
but it would really depend on sort of
looking at a specific site and if they
were making some deliberate choices
about
those fundraised positions and who's
learning
I mean the reason the reason I asked it
is just because I'm involved in the
whole conversation about funding and you
know what PPS offers and then what the
community has to come up with is
originally the foundations were paying
for things like for the art attacks they
were paying for PE I mean the whole a
whole host of
things and it the compositions of what
they're paying for and this is more the
elementary level this individual
assignment what happens to Middle School
parents I guess like most of the
students
uh but the elementary students so it
seems like it's more like now in the in
the classroom
um which does seem
um
struggle like that does seem like it
would make a measurable difference
um versus like hey my kids getting PPP
because we raised our notification money
but like actually in the classroom
they're getting support so I'm just
curious like whether the district has
any sort of an analysis of you know all
these schools that raise different money
for different types of positions that
doesn't make it doesn't make a
difference and if so
and we've already said like here's our
Equity formula like if we're gonna
be providing that
parents are providing that extra
assistance should we be like moving the
whole
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difference living everything
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I think this is going to be close to one
of the central issues for our whole
policy conversation on this which is um
you know we're very strategic with our
own Investments
um and so if we're going to continue to
allow external support for our schools
then how do we have a conversation about
being more directive with our building
leaders about who we want that support
to serve or how we want that support to
to be deployed in those schools because
that's something we could do and right
now it really is
um just up to the principle and I think
the fundamental I'd like to hear yeah
fundamental pieces we know we don't we
do not have enough resources for all of
our students right that that we know
that and so we as a board have chosen to
to focus the resources we have on the
students who need the most support and
we know you know we've heard from many
communities with kids in the middle or
that those steps you were talking about
Julia that we're not able to meet and so
I mean I think the the fundamental
question is before us as a board that
we're not going to talk about tonight
but we will in the future is
are we going to continue to allow
parents to
um fund these extra positions that we
know students need and that we don't
have the resources to fund and how do we
do so equitably with Integrity
um and that that's the conversation
before us and so we're getting grounded
in all the data and the information as
we begin to think about I think if
all of us want the best for our students
and all of us want to meet our board
goals the question is what are the
levers that we have access to to make
that happen and and this is a very
specific conversation we'll be having
about the foundations and how we as a
board will allow
um that program to look in the future
yeah
to the actual discussion I'm interested
right yes
the question that and
um
it's maybe for the next conversation but
I'd like to hear from Sacramento what
what we think that impact of that
additional staff makes for those
students and maybe it's like hey you
know kids have more personal attention
because they're Cas or teachers but just
like in terms of the data I would like
to know kind of what
we see we know about what impact that
has
for this for the schools
that you are actually able to like put
more resource sources it's been a shift
to like newspaper saving PE or you know
whatever art we're going to have art and
music but now it's like we're actually
pushing more resources into the class
foundations of pushing more resources
into the classroom and great I say I've
had a student who struggled I like I'm
all for
pushing more resources in the classroom
but what impact does that have that
for those students is the positive
things and do we look at so that's I
guess the data question that I'm
interested in because I'm I don't know
yeah yeah I think people have observed
that
um each year we've continued to iterate
you know it's public education I feel
like the school system should provide
for you know
expectations Associated growing
principal standbook or Staffing rules so
that yeah
Arts pathways are being built out so
more of those positions are covered
yes High School is sort of another thing
there with our CTE Pathways and measure
98 but
um so and and I also don't want to take
away the discretion professional
Judgment of our school leaders that
conversation that happened their
supervisors and their school Improvement
plans around where their growth areas
and needs are too and hopefully and I
believe that they're making strategic
decisions about where to best apply
those uh maybe it's for a set of local
students particular grade level of
particular content or another school
community and maybe they want their
youngest children to have a lower staff
you know student adult ratio uh you know
the discretion level is is you know it's
it's been a ball or more nominal so we
know we haven't felt the need to sort of
get you know too prescriptive right well
if you don't have Foundation dollars you
would have
any choice well that's what that was my
earlier conference it's like how do we
make sure every school leader has some
some of capacity or for resourceful to
make some discretionary
um
so I want to pause this for a second um
in our agenda we're actually going to do
public comment at 4 50 today
and I know we still have some slides to
go through and so actually one of the
questions I first have is for the board
to go out of pause for public comment
but also kind of want to ask the people
who are here for public comment if they
prefer we go through the rest of the
slides or if they prefer we do public
comment now
okay either way
um I know we had about five people
signed up
there's probably information that we can
bring that would be beneficial as you
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continue doing that I'd be happy is the
board okay if we pause then yeah that
would be that would be great so um
so thanks everybody for being here how
do we do we want to bring these folks up
to maybe sit next to Roseanne to do the
public comments so we can make sure
we're picked up by the mic that would be
great
um do we have one that's online
actually one person who submitted a
video
I was about to read off the name but
Carrie you're here Kerry who do we have
here for public company
we help will lesser
thank you for being here
um and we won't do our normal stream
about public comment just state your
name I think we have two minutes tonight
right um for folks and so we'll give you
a gentle reminder okay thank you Wilma
sir m-u-s-s-e-r thank you for your time
uh my name is Will Musser and I've
reviewed the reform PPS funding site
watched the relevant board meetings on
YouTube and review the materials and
dissertation and sorry to be blunt but I
have two minutes
any move towards eliminating local
school foundations otherwise known as
lsfs and solely having district-wide
fundraising for distribution is
irresponsible because of the imminent
budget cuts that will eliminate teaching
positions setting the perfect be the
enemy of the good and is an example of a
receding tide that lowers all votes this
summer I became the chair for the
Beaumont Foundation despite not serving
on any lsf before because no one else
wanted to
I chose to because I had ideas about
activities for Community Building
fundraising and tying in my advocacy for
climate action with Alameda and regular
communities at an earlier meeting a
board member asked what is the problem
that we're trying to solve and the
consensus is that eliminating lsfs and
replacing them with district-wide
fundraising will reduce the perception
of inequity in fundraising for Staffing
but at what consequences to PPS why not
address ptas and boosters today is the
first time that people affiliated with
specific lsfs are speaking publicly as
to how PPS would be impacted by
prohibiting lsfs to pay for staff to
date the committee has not
operationalized definitions of equity or
parity as they relate to inputs or
outcomes with respect to staff funding
putting the cart before the horse it has
not distinguished between disparities
or inequities
PBS stakeholders need to have an honest
discussion about what the heat map would
look like if spending and fundraising
for staff were Equitable as well as
practical If you eliminate lsfs you
squelch or even negate the Practical
power of self-interest to raise money
gross revenue from district-wide
fundraising would be significantly
reduced because donors of all
backgrounds be reluctant to donate as
much because the incentives are
uncertain and alongside decreased
enrollment and budget cuts that would be
irresponsible undeserved students will
fall through the cracks disparities will
become exacerbated and more visible
leading to Greater
dissatisfaction with PPS so you'll
probably lose families and teachers to
private schools families are willing to
compromise but when the decisional
balance crosses over and attending PPS
is seen as a sacrifice they will leave
get two minutes so I'd like to end with
this plea please reform the system by
identifying buying mandatory staff
levels for every school type increasing
the equity percentage upwards and
creating a support system where schools
without active lsfs can get them
functioning so donations can flow to
them directly as stewards of PPS the
board should be looking at how to
increase fundraising levels in a more
Equitable manner to optimize Staffing
parity instead of implementing Noble but
misguided policies that reduce them in
today's challenging environment thank
you
and I would encourage you also you feel
free to submit your testimony to the
board I already have yep thank you sure
it's in my email it is
the principal at Beaumont uh thank you
for this opportunity to speak before the
board
um The Beaumont Foundation has been very
helpful as a building leader
um often when we get our budget for the
next year it's like well you have to cut
this many positions it's really tough to
figure out who to cut where do you cut
and how you fill those gaps back in
so with Foundation money as well as the
um
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the parent Equity Fund I'm able to use
some of that funding to if we have a
halftime position sometimes I make it a
full-time position using uh Foundation
funds because we may be more electives
for example choir or band
sometimes we have a halftime
um recently we had a halftime
bilingual educational assistant and that
was very proficient in mathematics
so the district gave me a 0.5 I hired in
the other 0.5 chat with our math and
science classes because he was really
able to reach out to the students and
help them thrive in those content areas
additionally when office staff is cut I
made for example right now we have a 1.5
secretary I had an additional 0.5
secretary we now have a bilingual
secretary that's able to help us
communicate with parents so that we have
0.5 for her but I hired her 1.0
she helps with phone calls communication
anything that parents need from the
school so we try to use our funding to
support our students sometimes it goes
in the classroom sometimes it goes to
support staff and um frankly if we
didn't have that additional support I'm
not sure how we would fully function I
did hear that the schools with
foundations are the lowest funded
schools so I'm very grateful for
foundation funding
um
the last thing I would say is that yes
please if you have any more questions
for me about foundation and how those
funds are used or why the decisions are
made that are made it's so in the spring
we get our FTE
we start making decisions and then
sometimes in the fall our school staff
has gone somewhere else somewhere else
for a higher paying job so then we have
to look for someone to fill those
positions so it's it's uh every year
it's like it's the hardest thing I have
to do is figure out how to fill the gaps
based on the funding that I receive it's
very hard to say okay sorry you don't
have a job next year
that's tough it's it's like I don't
sleep those nights but I do use our
funding
um to support staff and students so
thank you again for this opportunity if
you have more questions
um available by email or phone call to
you thank you again I just wanted to
clarify one thing
one thing parent Equity Funds exactly so
there's both pieces of the sort of
fundraising and equation benefit
Beaumont yeah and the parent Equity
Funds are used for student groups we
have um gender and racial
um Affinity groups and so we um are
trying to increase the student's sense
of belonging to our school by providing
activities and physical fiction of group
meetings so that they feel like they're
connected to our school our
highest population of students of a
different culture is Hispanic so
we're continuing to hire staff that
speak Spanish another way to communicate
with parents and also providing
opportunities of students need supplies
um
school supplies or other things we also
provide those as well so we use all our
resources to try to fit the needs of the
students and uh
yeah if we can work on that on that same
formula so we have actually we're uh
we're not a title on school but we do
have Title One students and so when they
come to our school they lose their Title
One the funding that comes with them it
does not follow them to the school so
we're always trying to figure out how to
fill the gap for students that needs
extra support thank you appreciate it
thank you foreign
last year or 21 22 22 000
yeah last year was challenging because
uh post coven people weren't connected
people weren't meeting
um people aren't coming together people
were afraid to be in public together in
uh large spaces with a lot of people
most of our fund our foundation
activities are in person with parents
and
um so yeah people who aren't getting
together so that's why
great thank you yeah I appreciate it um
gentleman is a data point it would be
interesting to know how many schools are
in Beaumont situation just for the
future
all right hello board members and thank
you for allowing me this time to speak
my name is Serena Hollingsworth and as a
person of color I'm proud to have my
children in a district that's submitted
to equity but I'm also concerned about
the proposal to disband or Capital local
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school foundations in the name of
creating Equity eliminating teaching
positions and increasing class sizes is
not Equitable and will harm children of
color across the district
I'm the chair of the Alameda School
Foundation it's no secret that Alameda
has a lot of affluent families because
of the district's equity-based funding
model Alameda receives fewer Educators
and dollars per student allowing those
resources to go to the schools with
greater needs which is the right
approach however Alameda still has over
100 students that are historically
underserved the proposal to cap or
eliminate the fundraising from our
foundation sends the message to those
100 underserved students that you are
not a priority your Equity doesn't
matter as much because you attend a more
affluent School
eliminating These funds will also
negatively impact the entire District
using Allen music excuse me Alameda as
an example in the 21-22 school year we
raised about 121 thousand dollars of
that thirty seven thousand dollars went
to the fund for PPS we'll come back to
that figure
it's left about eighty four thousand
dollars for Alameda to use we did not
get any educational assistance from the
district so we hired two part-time games
one rotates between three kindergarten
classes the other rotates between three
second grade classes with class size
averages of 31 students
I would ask if uh when was the last time
any of us sat in a classroom with 31 7
year old and do we think that's a
reasonable student to teach her ratio
should we all say no the educational
assistants bring much needed support by
spending one-on-one time with those
students in phonics ingredient sessions
and many of the students needing the
help the most are from our underserved
population the board itself has set
goals around third grade reading and
required School interventions and we
simply just cannot do that without these
EAS at present
I'm almost done so now let's go back to
the 37k that went to the district I'm
really struggling to understand why the
board would reject this income in the
midst of increasing funding cuts by
capping or eliminating the foundations
it's sending the wrong message and it
implies that the board is willing to
place the ideology of a few over the
benefit of the student I'm not an expert
in equity but I know that taking any
resources away from any student will not
create better outcomes
I hear the critics the local school
Foundation model isn't perfect but until
there's a Statewide solution that
doesn't have 31 second graders in a
classroom with one teacher this is what
we need and removing this funding
without an alternative harms the entire
PPS Community I'm respectfully asking
that the board please do not limit or
take this funding away from our students
thank you for your time
you know where to send it yes
thank you
virtual
welcome
hello thank you
we can hear you start whenever you're
ready
all right um good afternoon my name is
Karen Liao yeah with one syllable and
spelled l-i-a-o my pronouns are they she
and I racially identify as brown Asian I
am a member of the reformed PPS funding
at vixi advocacy group
I am a PPS parent with a seventh grader
at Hosford middle school and a 10th
grader at Cleveland High School both of
them went to Abernathy elementary school
a school that has a foundation I am also
a PPS teacher I teach second grade at
grout Elementary which feeds into
Hosford and Cleveland
grout is a title one school which does
not have a foundation like many other
school communities which do not have
foundations almost all grout parents and
caregivers knew little to nothing about
foundations a few years ago
and I'm sorry I'm having problems with
my two screens because of this Zoom
setup there we go oh thank you
we know that Foundation fundraising
disproportionately benefits schools that
serve wider wealthier communities during
the 20 20 21 school year the 11 schools
that raised more than fifty thousand
dollars had student populations that
were on average less than 18 percent
historically and currently ignored I'm
using historically and currently ignored
instead of historically underserved
because I think this better describes
our current racial reality compare fifty
thousand dollars against the ten to
fifteen thousand dollar grants
distributed to 48 qualifying schools in
2022-2023. we know that Equity means
that those who need more get more the
current PPS Administration is doing the
right thing by putting more of its
resources towards schools with the
greatest need Foundation fundraising
under mind sees efforts to re to reduce
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disparities along among schools along
racial lines did you know there has
never been oversight on how Foundation
money is spent at individual schools
pps's mission statement is we provide
rigorous high quality academic learning
experiences that are inclusive and
Joyful We disrupt racial inequal
inequities to create vibrant
environments for every student to
demonstrate excellence
why is foundation fundraising outside of
any racial Equity lens
in the 50 plus pages of material shared
for tonight's meeting there was no
mention of racial demographics or
outcomes how is pps's racial Equity lens
applied when putting this information
together
a racial Equity lens for foundations on
a school-by-school basis will be very
uneven as each School comes up with its
own practices and policies another
concern I have is whether or not schools
who serve student populations that are
less than 18 historically and currently
ignored are able to effectively create
and apply a racial Equity lens
why in the past was 33 an equitable
solution
why would 50 percent now be an equitable
solution and how would it close any
opportunity gaps I support a district
district-wide Foundation this is an
opportunity for real Equitable change in
the foundation fundraising system not
small adjustments that may possibly
reduce inequity but do not eliminate it
not only is a district-wide foundation a
system where racial inequities can be
effectively disrupted but it is also a
huge opportunity for Community Building
imagine fundraising events that are
planned and attended by multiple schools
imagine events that bring together the
multitude of experiences and expertise
represented in multiple School
communities so they can support each
other and increase understanding of each
other's values and priorities imagine
being in a community where caregivers
and parents across the district side by
side advocate for stable funding for
Staffing in all PPS schools
with this current review of PPS
Foundation policy there is an
opportunity for transformational change
shifting percentages to 50 is not
transformational and it is not Equitable
a district-wide fundraising model not
only removes racial disparities in
funding extra stuff it is also the first
step towards where we really need to be
doing what we really need to be doing
identifying the true depth of needs in
each school and advocating as one
district for fully funded schools thank
you I'm sorry I went over time it's okay
we really appreciate your comments thank
you thank you
just queuing up the video
our vessel Journey over the nine years
taught me so much not only as a parent
but as an active member of the city the
disparity between the schools in this
district is blindingly clear and can
leave a parent feeling paralyzed in
their ability to make any type of change
for their children and the children in
their Community this is a significant
opportunity for PPS School Board
District leaders and community members
to do an equity inventory of the current
policy and deeply consider other options
that we can collectively Envision for
years at Vista Elementary 50 of the
population went to other schools whether
through the lottery system or private
this fact alone is enough to see that
statistics and school funding matter
more to people than people we have to
start asking ourselves the question are
we leaning on a Model that only benefits
those fortunate enough to live in a
certain zip code
who gets left behind in this process
the fundraising policy is our little
experiment in triple down economics and
just as it does not work for our nation
it does not work for our city education
system
it is wonderful that people have the
means energy and time to raise so much
money that they can kick down to the
students that have families who are
barely surviving families who do not
have the bandwidth to question the
policies of their local public school
system they just know they want their
children to have an education but I know
there must be options that bring our
schools and student opportunities closer
together
I have my own voice energy and time to
brainstorm other options and I believe
there are countless others out there
just like me in the city that are ready
willing and able to do better by all of
our children we have an opportunity to
make Portland a model example of what it
looks like when members of the city work
together for True equity and change
I hope you will continue to reach out to
others in the McDaniel Jefferson and
Roosevelt clusters and include our
voices in the process of developing a
new policy that aligns with the port
Portland of today and the Portland of
tomorrow thank you
I know we had three people on the wait
list as well are any of those three
here tonight they were on the way this
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so they probably not I think it was
Marianne walker uh Maya um
Matt goldrin and Alicia riddle
um
after those five
um okay and I think that that I just I
know we have another work session coming
up so the folks on the waiting list get
bumped so the top is that right who have
signed up
so we're in a weird situation because we
don't normally do public comment at work
sessions
sometimes yes sometimes now so that this
was a conversation we can decide to add
that if we start choose I would say
that we should make sure that
it's done in a way which everybody feels
is transparent because they'll be
they'll be yes everybody will feel like
who knew first and yeah that's a great
point maybe I'll put it out uh not
necessarily for decision tonight for the
board to think about this this feels to
like a topic that we want to take more
public testimony on rather than less and
I know that other governments you know
um often will have you know listening
sessions that go on you know for an hour
or even two or even well I was not
suggesting that it was suggesting
something more than our normal so maybe
just something to think about whether we
want to build that into a future time
and that would be in favor to your
points of making sure we really
publicize that so people can sign up you
know and have lots of slots and
publicize it and also maybe do some
additional Outreach if you're going to
publicize it make some phone calls
and I think that's important to point
out um is that there is no proposal on
the table if we're starting this process
as a full board I'll go back to the
policy committee to you know really look
in a in a way that's based on the facts
and our data as a district to
um think about what kind of reforms we
might be interested in so I heard
someone in their testimony reference
that and it's that's an important
distinction there is no proposal
great so let's uh
our policy allows community members to
bring fourth proposals and their resent
people that was brought for us by the
community it's just economic that our
policy committee did not Embrace and
instead we're doing a full board uh
conversation where that's inclusive is
talking about semantics there is a
proposal that came forward from the
community and the policy committee last
year did make some changes and edits to
it and had conversation yeah I mean so
it's just like I want to take this I
don't want people to feel like hey we
have a policy and policies that you can
introduce a policy that you know where
they follow it I don't think I don't
think you guys are saying different
things there's a policy that was brought
forward that was under consideration
last year and absolutely could be under
consideration this year I think what
Amy's saying is you know as a board we
have not put a proposal on the table so
we're not discussing a proposal tonight
right on the table we're discussing the
the idea in general and then again we'll
ask some questions come back on the
sixth to give some some direction which
will then policy and it may very well
mirror this process came forward from
the community so yeah and then I think
the policy can be last year did some
more important work so I want to move on
back to Jonathan um and I think we've
got some more slides to go through yes
so we have two more receptions to go
through uh so thank you can we make the
sentence when you're here uh so we're
gonna go focus on the PPS parent fund uh
so uh chair Scott you asked which
schools are in the same predicament uh
that Beaumont is in uh there are two
additional Buckman
that little phrase dollars and have
access foundation and receive uh
received the PBS
yeah we don't need to thank you have
been active in the past but not this
last year
all right so again
um want to contextualize these are the
dollars contributed to the PPS clearance
fund not 2122 but as you can see in the
slides 2017-2022
um I we differentiated between active
the contribution to the parent fund from
active uh active affiliate and local
school foundations again that's 32 uh
foundations and the independent
foundations so I just want to make sure
that we're I'm not trying to hide
anything I'm just create information
that is important for you to know 32
active foundations for example this last
year raised 447 thousand dollars to the
parent fund and eight independent
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foundations rates 350
000.
so how are PPS account funds being
budgeted by our school leaders
um here's a slide deck or a slide that
has the top 10 non-personnel items uh
this was essentially every principle has
to budget importantly how they're going
to use these dollars and as you can see
here the number one uh area over the
loss of years has been consumable
supplies uh and I want to be clear this
is not necessarily school supplies as
much as it's family engagement uh you
know this is where peer principals would
put family Nitric you know uh events and
dinners and opportunities or other
activities that happen in the school so
as you heard from one of our principals
today you know those are those are the
types that uh that's how the dollars get
used as you can see the second one here
being contracts uh uh instructional
professional and Technical Services at
153.
so we also know that's the non-personnel
we also know that some to uh director
constant's earlier Point uh some more
school leaders do but at least 35 uh to
purchase or to support uh to fund uh
Staffing and as you can see here for the
last three years fiscal year 20 to 23.
um you can see you know these are the
schools with a minimum of 0.5 FPE uh
that was uh per that was supported by
the fund or the parent fund uh up to a
little bit under three at Jefferson so
you can see the list there so curious
about that
um
so
last year the high school's got 15
000.
would they get the two previous years
because how did they how did they buy
four no that's a great question it's
included in one of your it's one of the
many documents that we shared with you
uh and unfortunately I did not well
actually it's kind of labeled it looks
like this it has uh five columns
including the PPS parent fund award for
2023 to 2023 and carryover funds for
2021 to 22. so to answer your question I
think how are how are they paying for
them some you know over the last few
years as you can see here there are some
schools that have budgeted you know one
four thousand for example
playing at 29 000 or 12 minutes 74 000.
so I think a lot of it is attributed to
we're we're making a concerted effort
this last year to work with our
principals to make sure that they know
that the resources are there and they
can utilize it accordingly
I guess
um
but it's not like Jefferson had it's
because I carry over funds if they could
buy FTE because I mean one of the things
I hear from
which is 0.44
just based on what they got so if you're
their annual amount they get is
say 25 000 and they could buy one yay
yeah versus buying four or five
sure so I'm looking at what Jeff so you
pointed out Jefferson here
um looking at the list we're looking at
well just to do it by
a year
so Jefferson
um for example total assistance over the
last
four fiscal years uh purchase funded
0.91 in its educational assistance but
as you can see uh it's 0.17 in 2020.17
in 2021 0.17 2022 and 0.4 this current
fiscal year
uh we also see
um let's see what are the other is like
about one-fifth of an FTE say that one
more time 0.17 is like less than
one-fifth of an ft 7. 17 0.17
yeah
so yeah and so uh in terms of
you don't see any features here so at
Jefferson you're looking at this
educational system so it's probably
topping off an assistant you know ffpe
full-time or administrative support
okay uh this was so that the first one
was uh the four ears
um
and this is this current fiscal year so
what's happening in our schools right
now uh as you can see
um Arleta Jefferson Green Woodlawn
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Beaumont Harriet Tubman we are using
parent fund dollars to pay for ft
these are type of positions that we're
looking at of how our school leaders
budget
is that information
no pause there for any questions or
comments
okay
the next item I want to turn over to uh
I guess I just wanted to add this like I
heard from you it's like in my ear that
uh you know they do have to
um
describe how their Equity Funds or their
choices for their people yes prepared to
five dollars are aligned with their
school Improvement plans and uh you know
they do have scrutiny on
um the decisions that they're making
about how to allocate those five dollars
almost both this foundation and
carefully
choices
including your packet is all the parent
fund Awards such incredible loss
um
sorry
since July 18 19. so you can see that at
some point starting in 2020 2021 the
fund for PPS uh takes over the
distribution of the parent fund so
that's why you see
all has raised logos on some and that's
fine for GPS
so this last section uh I wanna I'm
gonna turn it over to Robin Baron our
director of strategic Partnerships
um included in your package are two
memos uh one memo is uh was shared with
the Board of Education back in
um
June oh we just updated the date sorry
uh back in June and that was a targeted
engagement and principal survey so uh
we're gonna have uh Robin give us a pre
uh a quick synopsis of what's in there
obviously you could read it at your old
pleasure and then the second one is a
recent activity that we did uh a meeting
that we did with uh a black LED uh
School PTA
um obviously Dr Martin Luther King PTA
uh it's a he'll show us to describe that
as well so I'll turn it over to you
I think I'll I'll start there with the
most recent um from last week
um my colleague Nia laroque and I had a
virtual meeting with
um five representatives from the Dr
Martin Luther King Jr School PTA
um we provided the same slide deck and
the Google site that we used last spring
um within our targeted Community
engagements
um
giving them the background on the the
conversations that had previously been
held and we're asking them the how
fundraising Works in their schools what
do they think about fundraising for FTE
and the district-wide and so some of the
major themes that are on the page one
bulletin list
that they they really have a um
a perspective that the school Community
um
serves as a way of as a family
supporting students education and a
sense of community that they put that
over fundraising and that um they
actually cap fundraising
um for their PTA they say we were not
trying to raise more than fifty thousand
dollars a year at our school
um and
um sometimes they as new families come
in and and they kind of socialize them
to the Norms of why that is and and they
try to encourage people to get involved
in the community to volunteer to be
present in the school and that that will
be a greater benefit to their students
education than than funding alone uh and
they you know in in asking there's um
here's one quote from Tiffany Robinson
the PTA president the biggest thing we
stand for as a group is family people
feel it when they walk into our school
and new families feel it they say it's a
different feeling
when they come into this school when you
walk into the office and walk the Halls
you feel the love and that means more
than any dollar account
there's a few
um quotes throughout the the memo just
trying to represent what what was shared
with us
um the when when prompted what their
recommendation
was around District policies around
fundraising they said that they think
that we should cap fundraising for
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individual schools and that school
should be willing to share with other
schools who aren't able to raise money
um that is a synopsis of that
memo and the other two targeted
engagements we did at Roosevelt High
School and McDaniel high school with
feeder schools We There is
um
some misunderstanding uh in in the
community that we kind of hand-picked
people to come to those meetings that
was not the case we did an announcement
in the admin portal which is our
interoffice
um like electronic newsletter with
principals asking them to nominate
parents who are active in their school
Community with fundraising or
volunteering and the people that were
invited were the ones that the
principles identified as active in their
school communities and just to be in the
Roosevelt and and communities yes in
their clusters
um so it was an EXT
right it was close to specific cohorts
but you were the ones to
your office was the one who extended the
invitations and managed them yes yes
and there were some other people invited
that weren't able to attend
um but we did give people the
opportunity to provide their feedback
and that's summarized in the other memo
that is shared
um uh so I won't go over that again if
people probably unless you wanted to
you all good enough this is information
yeah these are two data points they're
not extensive engagement sessions they
were you know just uh one a a
perspective of viewpoint from
administrators from uh parent leaders
into to school uh School neighborhood
School communities uh and then obviously
you hear what you learned from the kpta
so we just wanted to share that
information
um I have a question about you know I
just briefly looked at the didn't read
through the whole packet
son knows what prepared but I did read
that message
I really appreciate that but it got to
your email
she would have read that yesterday or
Debbie this morning
um and I appreciate that you're doing
that extra engagement you know for
schools that you know it's harder for
people to have along the way to travel
um but I was a little bit dismayed um
well I was curious as to whether the
context of this conversation was
presented for instance like a pie chart
showing
what the funding landscape looks like
and what king School my neighborhood
school but
the sliver right that's that goes to
them and then also um it's really hard
for me to understand why somebody would
say you know money is not an issue
unless they saw they saw the disparity
in the data and that and then the
achievement outcomes I can't imagine
that a parent would you know say
it's not important you know it's okay if
we you know we're just all about a
community if they saw the world outside
of King and what was flowing to those
other communities
and the outcomes that those that they've
been in facing investor Institute
I mean I I can see like as a parent I
didn't have time to go to the PTA wasn't
involved with King but um I'm just
wondering I just saw other things I kind
of broke my heart a little bit and look
at it Gary because
I'm
it's just it's a little traumatizing to
read that people were like oh we're all
about the family and when there's this
other world out there that is also about
the family also about investing in in
the kids in trips to Germany and
traveling to footlong basketball games
and the things that our kids aren't
getting and to say that they were okay
with it it's just hard for me to believe
okay I mean they knew that we were a
realm of like the possibilities of what
you can do and even with extra money why
would you say oh that's okay we're just
all about the community
if the context was presented
I mean Tiffany Robinson has been the PTA
president for several years I think she
has a pretty sophisticated understanding
of the landscape I did provide the
the context of it and they did have
familiarity with that some schools
fundraise for FTE I think their feeling
is that their
that the basic education and Staffing is
provided to their school and they don't
want to create a an environment where
the only way they're engaging with
families in their Community is by asking
them for money
they wouldn't accept a grant or a shared
money or other
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um
of money flowing into the the school but
that that that's not the way they want
to run their PTA I guess I think I
understand that part but if the
magnitude of the dollars is so it's like
so much greater
um in other school communities that it
would be it's just hard for me to
believe that we're so happy with our 38
000
you know there's like 380 000 out there
floating around to do great things with
for our kids
with the Arts and you know there's a lot
of I mean it's enrichment happening I I
love that school Community my mother and
grandmother both retired so
um
so we have one more slot so anyways just
curious about how much contacts
so that's all thank you so that's all of
the information that we have to share
with you as I as we invest it that's it
uh so December 6 work session
um the purpose of that will for you the
board to provide general direction to us
on shifts to the PPS parent fundraising
policies
and here are some kind of questions
they're not meant to be exhaustive
they're not meant to be you know at the
end of the day you can you know choose
to ignore all of them I think they're
really trying to provide you with uh
with us I think as a community
conversation the conversation that we
want to have if we want to get to a
solution or another solution we want to
get to a revised policy so what parent
fundraising rules and policies might
need to change
um should there be caps on amount of
dollars raised by parent groups if so
what
should always raised by parent groups be
subjected to an equity distribution or
allocation of some sort if so how
what updates are needed on how parent
fundraising dollars are used
right so this is the FTE conversation if
you will and how might we establish
rules and policies that encourage
fundraising efforts to be more inclusive
kind of I think to what I think the
doctor PT and Dr King PTA was trying to
you know I think that's kind of the
the energy that I get from them and
contribute to a stronger sense of
community district-wide so I think again
these are guiding questions for you to
consider
um but I think uh and at the December 6
work session I think you know we'll turn
out moreover for you we will facility
you know if it's helpful I'll work
um
policy chair to develop you know uh the
agenda for the work session but really
we're turning it over to you to help uh
our community
I think bring closure to to this topic
that's been loved that's true
so I have a question about this process
because language here is all about
um parent groups so it sounds like we're
talk we're talking about all external
sources of funding that are coming into
our schools through different channels
so I want to understand in this process
through the policy committee are we just
going to focus on foundations first
which to me is kind of ironic because
it's our only source of funding where we
do have a equitable distribution
mechanism even though it may not be
perfect and it may not be what we need
but none of our other
sources do so I I would like to
understand better uh what the parameters
are on this conversation I don't think
there are parameters until the board
gives direction to the policy field so
that's really it December 6th I think
you just teed up another question that I
think should be on the list is how broad
are we are we do we want to how broad do
we motivate this question is a very
practical one like do we know that
Universe like do we know that in worry
of all those other external fights that
are coming so from the policy committee
kind of how we got here is we did have a
group bringing forward a policy request
and an idea for a policy to um the
policy committee that we've worked on
quite hard for a couple of years and
um the goal of this was to really have a
next week on the six to kind of have a
values conversation about how do we
think about fundraising how do we want
to look at I mean I love what king says
about the Caps right why they cap so
that they can be more inclusive and some
of the the choices they're making there
um for us to have some of that
conversation the reality is that the
place where we have the most Leverage is
with foundations because that is
something we can directly control
whether or not people can buy FTE as we
look at the whole universe of these
parent or school-based fundraising the
question is how do we help our Portland
Community I think one of the speakers
said you know moving into the Portland
of today in the Portland of the future
how do we help our entire Community have
opportunities when we think about money
in schools Parent engagement support of
another how do we think about in new
ways and it becomes trickier when we
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look at things like ptas because of our
legal standing and relationship to them
they're their own independent 501c3s and
so how does that relationship work out
but I think if we as a board begin to
have that value conversation and say
what do we want our community to be like
I loved what will was saying about how
you're working with was it regular and
I'm trying to yeah and on like climate
change as part of community building
fundraising like how can we take
innovative ideas like that and continue
to build a constellation of school-based
fundraising that is equity focused it is
community building that creates
opportunities for all students but it's
going to be a process so I think that's
the conversation we have next time is
what do we as a board want to set as
some goal like interaction Direction and
then the policy committee can start with
the foundation policy and then we can
look at other avenues of school-based
fundraising because it does get true can
I ask you a clarifying question you said
and I get it we have less control over
like an independent school PTA but we
have control over whether that PTA can
buy FTE no ptas can't buy FDA only
foundations right so PTA like a PTA can
buy
um paper they can give money to the
principal's bonds
I know everyone in the room already
knows the answer to where's the
restriction on the PTA funding is that
is
no no on on by at home that's a PTA well
that's a PTA stock
I was just going to say PPS is also I
think that's what I said at the
beginning that PPS made a decision in 98
to say exclusively FTE it will to be
paid for by the local schools yes thank
you so
like State PTA also has some
restrictions or they give advice to
schools like fun things to do and not to
do because of liability so we have about
10 minutes and and I just I actually
want to make sure we take this time this
is an important topic um are there
additional questions so I think that's
really important I mean presentation
additional data questions and I want to
be clear it's not your only opportunity
as you dig through this information and
questions are going to come up I think
given the protocols conversation we've
had
um do this on the fly but board members
let me know if I think those questions
should go into the superintendent and
then and then they will will do a master
tracker so that whatever answers you
provide and they're provided to the
entire board you know what about the
information that we requested
today because you have additional well
you mean the things that we've asked for
as well today because for example like
just around the direct certification the
combined historically unjust served
because I think it's important if we're
going to have this discussion about
the middle of the steps in the cliff
that we have
that we'd be able to kind of see how
that looks because I think we have
information in like a bunch of different
places that shows where the steps and
the cliffs are then it's not all
just in the foundation
yeah so I guess what I would say is
Jonathan and hopefully you've captured
those if there's clarification coming
out I would clarify with the board
member that asked the question just so
we make sure we're we're answering the
question that you wanted to answer so uh
Roseanne took uh missile took notes here
and so we'll uh as a as a staff review
those those notes
um and and potentially and work with the
board leadership to to make sure that
that it's captured by
um just because I I want to make sure
like I I still have I need Clarity on
the question that you asked because I'll
say the same data and impact so if
there's some data readily available or
we can filter in a way that you have an
actual picture and visibility grade
there were some other questions that
were more like well what if or require
analysis depending on your job so maybe
you can help me clarify
um the other question
I had um at the very beginning of this
in addition to
um a community group bringing forward a
policy draft for the boards in the
community's consideration
um
Jonathan your office had brought forward
um some also some changes and this
wasn't related to the ptas but um there
were things like when you have a school
Community event
ticket availability for families that
maybe can't afford it um and things like
that and I'm wondering sort of how that
fits because that that seemed like part
of the also that we're all in it
together together
um so I'm I'm happy to I think the I
don't remember at what pulling into the
history of this conversation that was
presented uh but I think uh we'll we'll
find those share those out with you all
uh not for you to say this is the
direction this is another data point if
you will another way to reflect on this
uh but ultimately this is this is uh
this is on the board you know I'm
putting this is on the board and so I
would say those those edits to the to
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the ball let's see at the time are are
just examples at this point and I would
have been deferring you all to to
articulate the policy decision
one thing I'd be interested in seeing is
um
are distributed both what the criteria
are because I'm not trying to know that
exactly and then just um seeing them uh
if we can just list that by recipients I
mean it's included in the budget book
but it's just included as a subset of
each individual school budget so it's
kind of hard to just we'll get into it
yeah yeah that would be helpful
um
news for another side by side comparison
I can't remember well that was just to
see the FTE purchased um all together
both directly by school foundations and
by the um
if I have quite a few questions so I'll
probably send them in as well
um but I just want to make sure that I
have them out just in case I forget
um so one of the questions I have is we
can get the data I'm just I can create
it based on our four goals uh for grade
schools
speak up a little bit I'm sorry get the
we can get the we can get
to segregate it and for data based on
our board goals for the schools uh run
by population and the performance
um
active and Independent Schools active
Affiliated and independent separated
schools
it's quite specifically demographic data
when you say population you mean the
demographic data and when you say
Performance
Based on our board yeah based on our
programs it would be like evaluating
against those goals
um another question I have obviously
we'll answer it now but when I look at
the numbers which says less than one
percent of licensed PPS staff and just
over one percent of our budget of
teaching assistants could we have a
district absorb this amount with more
party budgeting
um and also with with the foundation
pieces if they foreign for 2021 2022
school year and it already flies the
next year what happens to that those
staff that is purchased
um
and then would like to know what is the
average amount that is going to
non-active
um schools
the non-active affiliates
what's the average amount of their
receiving
um
and then committee Outreach piece
um I think it's going to be very very
important to really have a robust
community outreach piece for all the
schools because I think this is
something that a lot of the parents I
know it don't have to be out anyone but
some way to make sure that we are
reaching all parents
um
to get a under I'm understanding of
what's going on and also the acts you
know
um their thoughts you know so when I
hear parents
um talk about you know well if we if we
as an example discussion of it and our
kids are going to go to private schools
well I'm one of those parents that
actually sent their kids to private
school so I paid that tuition bill and
but I do know that that the private
schools can't taking up all the schools
that everybody leaves so you know when I
when I hear that it just kind of makes
me cringe a little bit
um but also too you know I I wanted to
push back on the notion that if as an
example if we did away with Foundation
school I mean Foundation pieces as far
as
uh parents paying for that the
conductive Community would not donate
for the good of the whole I don't think
we are as shallow as a community that if
we can't raise money just for our school
we're going to just hold our money to
ourselves I just don't think that of us
as a community and so you know when
those things come out it brings me pause
because I don't think that's how we are
as a community
um I think with our community of giving
we are a community of looking at those
other kids that are our other schools or
kids that are not doing well and want to
help out and then the helping hand
um and we have evidence of that by the
bond buy the levy stuff uh so I I just
want to make sure that for me you know I
do give you know I am one of the
fortunate uh folks of financially I'm
okay but I do give and it doesn't base
it's not based on where just because my
kid is at this score just because my kid
is not that's cool
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um and so I think we have more of us out
there like that versus those that well
I'm not going to give if it's not going
just to thank my kids school
um and that's one of the reasons why I
really think that community outreach is
important because I think as we hear
more of that from our community
um then we can really have a a path
forward to say you know what maybe they
are willing to do this or maybe are not
willing to do this but at least want to
hear from the community
um you know their thoughts um about
about these things
um
well that's that's all I gotta say
that gets to some of those questions
around uh achievement uh now this data
is you know pre-pandemic and obviously
things have shifted but yeah this gives
you an example I mean because again I
think the the real we know yes that
Forest are you know done Away director
certification poverty levels
and the chances are really high yes and
so you know and we're not just talking
about Foundation dollars you know when
we have affluent neighborhoods like I
live right down the street from Alameda
I live across Downstream from Beaumont
the foundation dollars that I don't need
that's not necessarily we talk about in
equities
those folks that have money was going to
do extra things anyway for their kids
whether they're going to hire extra
tutors for their kids or whether they're
going to have uh get the necessary
things or put finances into their kids I
don't necessarily thinking we're talking
about just the foundation dollars when
we talk about wealthier schools we've
been talking about all the external
stuff that we know that wealthier uh
system or wealthy or uh communities have
so I don't want to make sure we're not
talking about well if we take it from
you know after things I'm just using an
example Lincoln that they're not going
to have resources for their kids we know
they're going to have resources over
their kids Alameda we know they're going
to have resources for the kids Beaumont
we know they're going to have research
for their kids so I don't want I want to
make sure we're not talking about oh we
take this from or limit them or if they
don't get it that their kids they're not
going to make sure that their kids are
taken care of because they have
resources to do that so I just want to
make sure I just kind of that's from my
own personal experience you know I make
sure my kids have the best they have
what the finances I had I realize not a
lot of kids have that option a lot of
families don't have that option you know
so
that's where that's the that's kind of
where I'm coming from and doing that I
know that yes we can put more money into
kids or schools that don't have that yes
we can do this
um but to say that you know we if we get
rid of this in whatever way shape or
form you know that that won't happen I
don't want to put that misnomer out
there because before before this before
they had foundations
um PBS have foundations affluent
families was doing and still doing well
with their kids their academic
performance was still doing well before
this so I don't want to make it seem
like if this this is going to make you
break any kids from uh type of
cheeky
um thanks Gary thank you Scott I'm sorry
oh absolutely just wanted to note
because you can't see up here the irony
is in the meeting and she has her hand
oh Byron you know what and you even oh I
feel really bad Byron you emailed
earlier and let me know you're going to
be virtual and you know what I didn't
see your name up there and so I
absolutely want to turn over the floor
to you
yeah no problem
i i a lot of my questions
so go ahead
um yeah and a lot of my questions have
been asked by the meeting by other board
members so I really did not feel the
need or I would have gotten my voice in
there but Justin's were like at the very
end I think a couple of questions I have
is I want to understand the significance
of like Foundation dollars versus the
significance of like ptas and the other
um fundraising Avenues we talked about
I'd love to know if foundations are
actually raising significantly more than
those other bodies
um just to kind of understand how each
of those are affecting overall
um I also just want to Echo what um
director Lowry said about how I think
ultimately this is definitely going to
come to down to a values conversation
and what's doable and what's going to be
the best for students
um and so I also think I heard a lot of
plans like I heard from public comment
we had there's this idea of maybe a
universal Foundation also I know that we
had the policy marks last year which I
don't really know much about so I'd love
to be someone could shoot me an email or
like if I could be directed to whatever
that policy work says just so that I'm
prepared for our next conversation or
just be directed to where I can find
that
um in terms of like what was in the
works last year in the policy committee
and I'd love to understand a bit more
like the viability of like these other
Solutions I think as we move forward
into the next conversation about trying
to direct
um staff into what we might want to do
I'd love to have some understanding kind
of the pros and cons of some of these
other
um methods that we're looking at in
terms of how we can balance um this
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funding
but that's it and thank you for the
information I found it very informative
and I will email any other questions as
I dig more into the presentation and the
data that you shared so thank you
foreign
that marries to
policy changes policy changes
um
but for me that would be an important
like
um
again it seems like we have an equity
formula that we currently use and this
um
helps
more of
um higher FCS schools so is like is
there something we can it just seems
like it tilts a little you know a little
bit not
the massive amount but it tells it and
so are there things in the budget that
again we're raising everybody
um so this question if it if it's good
to have an EA or a reading specialist
um
in every school
um I'd really like this superintendent
weigh in on that topic
um and what we can do and to look at the
smoothing out the cliffs and to me that
seems like unless you marry it with the
budget conversation then it's like
you're only
you might just get half of the fix and
half the fix isn't the fix
yeah the shortage of ideas
as you know we don't have Clarity on our
Revenue so because it'll keep it already
from February to May
um and so we have to prepare sort of
a bunch of recommendation ABC
um but if but if if we're hearing sort
of desire to prioritize
example if we were to do a heat map
against the board goals and created an
intervention and support fund I
prioritize schools find students
furthest away from those goals I gave
them a short menu of what those
intervention supports could look like
you know that's one scheme if we believe
you know Early Education supports in
kindergartens could be another scheme
you know so we come up with sort of some
some strategies but it's a matter of
costs
and to see
how how we can have schools across the
portfolio experience
some of our partners Community Partners
so let's let's go back and and think
tonight I think the
the observation is a great one in terms
of if we are going to be married up
changes with policy and budget changes
then how do we do that in terms of this
immediate time frame sorry I just want
to make sure for the for the
context I want to make sure it's clear
that Paul the policy change the Ft the
per the funding of FTE by private
donations
is net has never and will not support
supplant the work of the district and I
just want to make sure that that's clear
so as well I appreciate the conversation
like it's important to have those those
discussions I just want to make sure
that it's not one or the other because
that that's what creates that I'm
actually trying to get away from that
you're going to take something away
because if the superintendent tells me
that like okay those four FTE or EAS in
Dunaway or the extra ones in Buckman or
Chapman or Beaumont make a difference to
student outcomes
like
I want to be able to look at it
holistically than the budget like in
so in the ad versus uh so I'm going to
ask the superintendent I mean because
that that's it you're asking for a data
point there I don't know I'm just I
don't know Adams is not here are we
going to be able to point that one EA is
making a plus or minus in a student
outcome impact that's the question that
I'm here well I guess
you know
um the argument
here here's I guess what I'm trying to
hear is like all the different parents
that I listen to in the community and
that is like I have heard from parents
at or in staff from at various Public
Schools like hey we still have kids that
need personalized supports and that and
that's what we use our funding for like
and if you look at the numbers actually
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every single school on the top earners
has more than you know X number of more
than 20 percent of students who are
um combined underserved
or you know not achieving like I don't
think we have any schools at 100 so
is
if you're saying like that's where that
money is going to and like don't pay
because our kids don't need it but I'm
saying there's going to be other schools
but that's totally true but they don't
have the foundation or they don't maybe
have the Equity Funds or they don't have
the flexibility of the next weekend I
guess so I don't know if that is
formulated in terms of the next tier of
schools
we know is the schools that are showing
Improvement are implementing a coherent
set of strategies so we believe or I
leverage others at the school level with
their leader or making decisions about
so you know there isn't a a clean causal
sort of an investment to a result we
know it's a contributing factor and you
know
I want to entertain we'll entertain the
question but I want to say with Dr Adams
and his team
and sort of see what we can do because I
think I know what what we're trying to
get shape and direction towards these
things all work in concert yeah
so back to the question about timing
right now we're scheduled to come back
on December 6th and provide some
direction to the policy Community to
move forward does the board feel
comfortable with that timeline
thank you forgot to this point I just I
maybe want to I want Clarity leaving
this meeting so uh I heard director or
vice chair Holland's talk about
Community engagement so I just want to
make sure I have Clarity on is there an
expert because of is there an
expectation on engagement then we're
looking at it further than March
decision uh one and two that will mean
that staff will have to go back to the
drawing board we've identified all our
engagement activities for the year and
so you know they're based on on our work
plan and so we would have to work with
the superintendent I just want to make
sure I I so I mentioned the idea of of
at least of listening sessions I think
the timing of those is is up in the air
right I don't think those listening
sessions necessarily are going to be
very beneficial early
um but I think they will be more
beneficial as the policy process moves
along and so I I but I but I totally
hear what you're saying about capacity
and do it we need to do it right because
if we're going to do it we need to be
inclusive and do Outreach and make sure
we're bringing all voices to the same
um which is by the way I meant to say
earlier thank you to everyone who came
to testified tonight I actually really
valued that and I'm really glad
different perspectives and I'm hoping
that when we talk about listening
sessions
for all of us to hear that I'm sure
Scott I just want to you know we want to
be transparent and sometimes we have a
listing session after some work is out
there there's a perception that
that input is coming in too late so I
want us to balance
you know if we're doing this as a
community and we're co-creating then we
have the listing sessions earlier rather
than later
we also have the mechanism the 21 Day
conflict once there is a thing that
there's also the 21 Day comment period
where you could build in
um
so that's down the road how do we feel
about December 6th and giving sap
direction or what are we going to do in
between now and our job in between now
and that is to read through this
material to send additional questions to
the superintendent if you have any to
read the questions the answers we get
from staff what options have come in and
then really come to that December 6th
ready to ready again we're not making a
decision that's ever six but ready to
give your personal sense of from a from
a policy perspective do you want to see
changes and the answer doesn't have to
be asked right it's either yes or you
want to see changes if the answer is yes
what are those and kind of coming back
to the questions that Jonathan let's go
and I think the most fundamental helpful
questions the policy committee is should
we continue to allow foundations to fund
FTE
I mean I mean that's sort of like basic
we start there and then if we say yes to
that then we can have some more of the
philosophical questions but that sort of
sense of
what does that blow down to
and we'll bring addition we'll share
additional data based on this
conversation and it will convene uh and
based on you know things that occur like
you have interest in PTA we have some
available data from my 90s that our team
has done with some research on but again
because they're independent we don't
have all those details but we can
provide like the fact that 71 of our
schools have a PTA if you're part of a
PTA you you to be a member of UK you
have to pay dues right so that creates
challenges for so there are things that
are happening in other Foundation or in
other fundraising worlds that you know
again based on the discussion uh we'll
provide details for you to further
explore okay so I'm not hearing anyone
object to that so we're going to stay on
that on that timeline moving forward
last thing I'm just going to say as we
wrap up I I wonder if there's not a
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guiding principle here of of of our
targeted universalism that we can sort
of apply and I keep reflecting back with
Sean I both saw Dr Powell a few months
ago now um
talk about talk about this I mean just
as the superintendent was was talking
and I'm thinking back to our session
last week I mean we have been doing this
very explicitly as a district around
schools and looking at you know the idea
of starting universalism is is how are
we similarly situated people should be
treated similarly right and and and so
looking at our schools has been the
proxy for that and we've sort of gone
after our designated schools and that's
the right place to start we've got this
complication as as schools are
transitioning out of that and we've got
those schools in the middle but I also
heard from a lot of people and including
people who testified like but what are
we doing about the individual students
right and and so you know you can have a
really high performing school and you
can have a child who can't read in that
school and that is still like just
morally wrong right and so as I don't
know as I as I was going through
tonight's conversation I just kept
coming back to that conversation and I
kept hearing Dr Powell in my head sort
of like like that should be the guiding
principle as we look at these policy
changes of like how are we continuing to
drive the district towards making sure
the resources going to the kids who most
need it the kids who are similarly
situated you know at all at all ranges
right from from high performing to
underperforming like how are we how are
we situating all of our decisions
is that context I think it's really
important that all the data we have
always be accompanied by you know be
disaggregated
um and that also be attached to
student outcomes because that's I mean
that's what we're trying to impact on
because you know let's
to have the presentation
is there so there's so much data it's
like what do we leave off
um but I think it's really important to
keep that peace peace there
and I really appreciate it Andrew you're
saying that like in every school we have
kids who aren't achieving and you know
that our mission is about the school
district is to make sure that every
student leaves our district
thank you everyone for the conversation
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