2022-10-26 PPS School Board Policy Committee Meeting
District | Portland Public Schools |
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Date | 2022-10-26 |
Time | 16:00:00 |
Venue | PESC Windows Room |
Meeting Type | committee |
Directors Present | missing |
Documents / Media
Notices/Agendas
Materials
Parent Fundraising Amendment Timeline (1) (9f9be02ac420e905).pdf Parent Fundraising Amendment Timeline (1)
4.10.010-P Compulsory Revisions 22 10 21 (ec253ef7a4d24c16).pdf 4.10.010-P Compulsory Revisions 22_10_21
Early Entry to K memo, Nov 2021 (f2533117e3e0725e).pdf Early Entry to K memo, Nov 2021
4.10.020-P Compulsory enrollment- Orginal (b548f3420afac557).pdf 4.10.020-P Compulsory enrollment- Orginal
Major Religious & Cultural Holidays (569533dc8e1a9251).pdf Major Religious & Cultural Holidays
PPS Calendar 2022-23 religious-holidays icons-on-front (a5d62b60ee84b1d9).pdf PPS Calendar 2022-23_religious-holidays_icons-on-front
Field Trip Policy 6.50.010-P mark-ups 3-4-22 (26b2bfef1754c8c7).pdf Field Trip Policy 6.50.010-P mark-ups 3-4-22
6.50.010-P Field Trip foreign travel and other off campus activities - Original Policy (6136a2bbf7fffc58).pdf 6.50.010-P Field Trip foreign travel and other off campus activities - Original Policy
3.40.030-P School Demonstrations (fe783225a3d4a748).pdf 3.40.030-P School Demonstrations
Toolkit- Civic-Engagement-Unrest 4-21-21 (56c752c3c97affa6).pdf Toolkit- Civic-Engagement-Unrest_4-21-21
3.30.037-P solicitations (ab0a0a44ae04128d).pdf 3.30.037-P solicitations
Minutes
Transcripts
Event 1: PPS Board of Education’s Policy Committee - 10/26/2022
00h 00m 00s
um we'll just go around and do
introductions of um
books I'm Ellie Lowry and I'm on the
board and I'm the chair of this
committee hi I'm Gary Holland I'm on the
board of Duty member
uh Rachel Lynn paralegal
I was waiting for the next thing yeah
I'm Julia from Edwards board member and
Committee Member
good afternoon Jonathan Garcia chief of
staff
Emily Glasgow senior director of big K5
academics Mary Kane senior legal
offensive
this large contractor general counsel
and we have Cara Bradshaw who's our
secretary today Terry you already
introduced yourself didn't you no I
didn't Cherry Proctor Communications
Department and then Robin uh Robin
Pharrell strategic Partnerships thanks
Robin
um as we get started I just wanted to
share in this public forum the
information I sent to the policy
committee and the school board on
October 7th as part of our policy work
plan part of our work as a board this
year is we're working with AJ crabill
and folks from the Council of great City
Schools to really refine our
understanding of governance and to focus
on our board goals because when boards
behave in those ways
um we can see a direct correlation to
improve student outcomes which I think
everybody around this table wants better
outcomes for our students so as part of
that work
um especially around our foundation
policy
um talked about that we're going to go
ahead and work with the entire board on
the foundation policy
um have two work sessions on foundations
one on November 14th and one on December
6th
um all the information for that work
session on the 14th has been sent out is
that cartoon
to the board and it would be public
closer to the November 14th yes and so
the the board right now the opportunity
is to ask questions about all that
information that has been shared ahead
of the work session on the 14th and then
we have time between the 14th and the
6th to sort of ruminate on what we've
heard continue to ask questions and then
at the December 6th work session will be
working together to sort of set a
direction and then the policy committee
will come back and work with the
direction of the full board on
um the foundation policy and the
timeline was sent out to everybody in
the email and is also available in the
supplemental uh minutes for the
that's a question at the
last committee meeting in June
said Michelle's not here but she had
asked for there to be more Community
engagement with black families is that
happening
Jonathan
I mean that was the reason why we didn't
move forward with the policy in June
because Michelle had asked for more
engagement with black families in
addition to the engagement we had with
um the other
yeah I would say if that is the
direction of the entire uh board for us
to do engagement
um we will do that so that's something
that could be brought up at that work
session and I don't think that's the
only reason that that policy didn't move
forward well I'm just saying that that
was a very specific request that the
public
so I think you agreed as well I mean I
think there was a consensus on the
committee so I'm just
so that's kind of where we were heading
with the foundation policy and um again
November 14th will be the work session
on that
right
um we're excited to have Emily here with
us today to um help us understand uh
some changes that are coming
we'll see that we're proposing that
we're talking about yes yeah thank you
for having us um and I have with us
Angelica Cruz who's our new director of
early Learners sort of passing the torch
and working together on this
um so this is actually a proposal that's
been several years in the making it got
somewhat way laid by covert as did lots
of things but we're wanting to resurface
it in time for next year if possible
um this is in reference to board policy
4.10.020 which talks about our
compulsory enrollment and age entrance
requirements
um we have had a long-standing tradition
of having an early entry to kindergarten
process in PPS it was formerly
administered by the tag office but um
about a year and a half ago was moved
over to the early Learners Department
which was really only created about four
years ago but is a much more logical
place for anything related to
kindergarten to sit and what we've had a
chance to do over the last several years
is really apply our PPS Equity lens as
well as our early early learner core
values to the policy which is something
we're sort of trying to do with all of
our policies at this point
um and what we've come to find is that
there are a lot of pretty significant
00h 05m 00s
Equity concerns about this policy the
early entry to okay practice basically
so the general guideline is that
students have to be five by September
1st to enter kindergarten what the early
entry to kindergarten process does is
allow a bit of a loophole in there for
students who are born between September
2nd and October 31st
um so if they missed that cut off by a
month they can apply to the early entry
to kindergarten process which again is
now administered by the early Learners
Department
and then what families have to do if
they if they know about that process and
they decide to apply they have to then
go get privately assessed using a
cognitive test and we've kind of
outlined that in the memo
um there are some sliding scales for
that but it costs even with the sliding
scale anywhere between 400 and 1100 to
get that assessment completed we've also
Now Heard lots of feedback from families
particularly families whose native
native language is not English
um that there is there's a lot of
concern about the cultural and
linguistic relevance and accuracy of the
assessment remember we're assessing
four-year-olds in this case and so
um we've gotten a lot of feedback from
families of bilingual children who say
that you know their their children they
believe have these capacities that this
particular test is not a way of
assessing those capacity fees so um so
we're concerned about the burden this
puts on families we're concerned about
who gets this information we're
concerned about having a entrance exam
for four-year-olds
um from an equity standpoint and then
we've tracked some of the historical
data which is in the memo just to look
by racial demographic
um at who has applied and who has been
accepted
um and it's it's very disparate
um and so
and I should say also
um we're talking about anywhere between
15 and 30 families that this impacts per
year so it's a small number of families
that know about this process and apply
and qualify and then when we look at the
racial demographics
um what we see for example is between
2009 and 2014
um
43 of the applicants were white and 65
percent of those applications were
approved and in that same time span 7.6
percent of the applicants were black and
only 30 percent of their applications
were approved and so there's just real
concerns around
um from an equity perspective again
around who is accessing this kind of
loophole to our role
um and then if somebody knows about it
and accesses it like what are the
metrics we're using to decide whether or
not that they would apply and are those
racially or linguistically biased and
what we've come to decide based on our
our evaluation
um isn't there this is not an equitable
policy and it doesn't align uh with our
PPS Equity statement or our early
Learners core values so our
recommendation would be to abandon the
policy and practice and just set the
rule um that students need to be five by
September first to apply for
kindergarten
um we're also excited to say that we
have a lot more Pre-K opportunity
available to families now
um and more coming so it also feels like
the right time to reevaluate this and
say well there is an option for
four-year-olds
um it's not like four-year-olds just
have to um you know wait a year if
they're close to that cut off so I think
I'll stop there and see what questions
folks have
so the what we're going to do is we
because this is sort of a new policy
that's come before us and um is somewhat
of a change
um to a program that we're going to
discuss in those questions today and
that the for us to make a decision we've
driven this back in December
um and I because I saw in the memo it
said to begin January 1. so we would
actually have to push that timeline back
because we would if we don't recommend
it to the board until December
then the board can't vote on it we have
to do the whole board steps and so that
would push it out to like February March
okay does that what does that do to your
uh program then uh I mean I would say so
we start all of our sort of kindergarten
Outreach and connect to kindergarten
Communications really in January
February they heat up after spring break
but for families that are pursuing this
option they often start asking questions
earlier we're already getting some
questions we'll definitely start getting
more in January especially because of
the assessment component they have to
line that up that can take months so
we'd have to look at the timeline and
see if it's realistic
um if we are going to make the policy
change if it would be realistic for fall
2023 or if we need to hold that another
year it will kind of depend where it
falls in that Arc in Spring
members have any questions about this
policy
so
um I have a 10 gentle question
um so I'm supportive of the policy
change
um
00h 10m 00s
and I'm wondering just given the
rationale that was used for this
um last night as I was looking through
the tag
um identification
materials and then I got a communication
from a Community member after the
meeting about the sort of uh
uh well I noted on the data that
um there's
um
are tagidentified students
representative of our student population
and I got a communication leader from
somebody in the community talking about
the sort of the bias in the tag
identification test so
um this is just a general question of
the consist the consistency so I say I'm
supportive of this change but I'm
wondering if we then have and maybe this
isn't your space
um but if we then you know again in like
first grade or I can't remember which
grade it is first second grade are like
once again testing kids with the biased
what could be or is a biased um
tests that we're getting sort of
disproportionate outcomes and for the
same reason why we're
staff is proposing the discontinuation
of this practice that
would it be consistent to be also
looking back and I don't know that there
may be state requirements on tag that we
need but I'm also thinking about being
cons you know or just our consistency
I think that's a really interesting
question tag is not
uh in my buckets
um and I see the connection you're
making and I think the only thing I
would say to separate
um is I think for a long time there was
a misnomer that early entry Decay meant
tag identification and it and it didn't
I think it just was housed in tag
because there was no early entry space
when this policy came to be
um and so even how the tests were used
like what the cut-off scores and all
those things were were different
um and so from an early learning
perspective the reason this might be
different is we've also as a district
even trying to shift the narrative that
kids need to be ready for kindergarten
that there's something called
Kindergarten Readiness and have really
been trying to shift to like know it's
Our obligation as a school system to be
ready for the kids coming into
kindergarten kids come in in all
different places and even students who
may be very young but pass a cognitive
test may have other struggles in
kindergarten and honestly what
principles will say about this call
policies that has often been the case
that very young kindergartners coming in
who may pass some academic benchmarks
may still really struggle in
kindergarten sometimes right so social
emotional sure there's all kinds of
things that go into to kindron so um so
it's different from tag and and I think
a really inappropriate space to use this
kind of testing um with the early entry
piece and that's another whole
interesting conversation to have at
another time I think and I'm sure that
Dana narrowbert who oversees tag you
know be interested in talking more
thank you director Holland
uh no actually I agree with this uh
Vision uh because I think
Force folks to use their Pre-K
um options
I think it's very important for the
development
pressure of having the kicks and makes
great
so I I think this is a good thing
um
just want to make sure that we are make
sure we're getting the word out about
the Pre-K piece I believe we still have
or that so just making sure that we
really get that word out about that
option uh for families
yeah
and we'll um
people have space of not making a
decision on the same day that
something's introduced so that we have
time to think it over and public can
contact us
it just created that space of
information and obviously if it's a
technical revision that kind of thing is
different than a substantive part of the
change so thank you very much what do
you need from us next yeah we'll see you
and we're not having our November
meeting as the work session for the
foundation policy so we will see okay
great thank you so much thank you for
your time
all right our next
um
piece is comes from a conversation
um Liz and I had sort of post our board
retreat oh and I mentioned Michelle is
not with us today because she has a new
job she's very excited about but it
means that she's no longer available on
Wednesdays for policy committee meetings
so I sent out an email to the policy
committee we are going to work on
00h 15m 00s
um rescheduling all of our meetings
December uh on because our November one
happens to be on a Monday so that's good
so
um Cara will be contacting uh policy
committee members to
um see what works on our schedule so
that we can accommodate Michelle because
I think as a member of this committee
her voice is vitally important so
we're gonna switch things around so it's
it's always fun we're all busy with
lives and jobs and things and so
sometimes things change they have to be
agile
um but Michelle sends her regress that
she wasn't able to join us today because
of her new job
okay so then anyway this next line item
came out of a conversation Liz and I had
uh after our border tree you know really
thinking about
that intersection with of policy with
our board goals and how do we really
think about the policy role when it
comes to those things we have to do that
are compliance
um the pieces that are governance and
then the pieces that really
um affect student outcomes and it was
really fascinating I was at the Council
of great City schools and I can't
remember what school district it was but
they they have like a four-page policy
manual
because the board policies they whittled
down to to really what is the board's
role and then they have administrative
directives for everything else so they
really went on a policy diet and really
looked at what is operational that isn't
the purview of the board and what really
is so um we have a long way to go to get
to a foreign policy manual I don't know
I'm not betting up not either but it was
just fast
here this I went to a whole seminar on
policies and boards and governments
really interesting so
um this is going to talk about some of
what came out of our conversation about
the kinds of policies we sort of tend to
deal with here
um and ways we can think about that
yeah and I think you covered probably 80
of it so
um but it was again I think the goal was
how do we prioritize the work that
affects student outcomes coming out of
the board retreat on September 17th and
thinking about shaping agendas
um with that as the
primary goal but also recognizing
there's work the policy committee does
that is
um outside of that arena there are times
when the legislature makes a change that
requires a change in our policy to be
compliant and even if that doesn't
directly it doesn't have a direct tie to
student outcomes we need to do it anyway
we are on you know the continued
long-term review of that very lengthy
policy manual to have some cleanup and
updates again we will I think
thinking about student outcomes help
helps us prioritize that work but we
will also continue to bring forward
recommended rescissions or revisions
when we think policies need to be
updated in one of those two ways and
then there's other and we also recognize
that there'll be
um other proposals that come from
committee members members of the
community staff that are probably
neither in not in any of those
categories but still
um important
so it was we
has that conversation you and I had just
evolved into those categories we thought
that might be helpful but also it's we
haven't really put we tried we tried to
categorize this agenda what would fall
in love like how did that feel but I
think certainly it should
it's a work in progress
and I think policy work one of the
things that that we talked about at the
council conference was that you know
policy work sometimes is a way that that
operational things leak into board
things and so how do we how do we really
be clear on the work we're asking staff
to do the time it takes where we're
putting our Focus as board members and
what really is a governance piece that
for their student outcomes and what is
more of us getting into operational
leads and just as a board the policy
committee
um being thoughtful about the kinds of
things we're bringing forward and where
they fit within the sort of ecosystem of
the organization
and we'll continue to have those
conversations about where we as a
committee want to invest our time and
how would we get connects to our board
goals and to student outcomes
anything from my colleagues I think
that's great
yeah so I guess
um one thing I'm thinking like impacts
student outcomes
um I would put on an equal
footing is equity
um as like a big category and
um
so yes student outcomes
but we have a lot of policy especially
like policies that are in
you know were written 20 years ago or 40
years ago or 50 years ago and I think we
need to continue to evolve them so that
would that would be the other thing and
I also think
um over the last five years there's been
an elevation of I mean I for example
um
I would take
00h 20m 00s
this what was presented here as more of
an equity issue than
a student outcome issue
so I guess I would like have just like a
little bit broader category
um also
um
I think there's a lot of wisdom in our
community and our current
um
and it's one of the four or five you
know clear responsibilities of the board
is like just the mechanism that you know
people can bring things to the
um you know just like the legislature
there's 3 000 bills passed don't worry
there's not gonna be three thousand like
but you know there's 3 000 bills
introduced and you know at the end of
the day maybe you know
a thousand aren't going to get committee
hearings because the decision is like no
we're gonna put that off or that's not a
wheelhouse or we don't want to do it you
know then some others have committee
work and it's actually well we don't
need to pass a bill to do this we could
you know it's really somebody else's
agency and so you know I think they're
one of the values of the policy
committee I do think it allows for
issues to get surfaced before they
explode
and
um it doesn't mean it's the result of
the conversation is going to be a
Final Act policy or even how it's
introduced but that it allows the
community to surface issues that and to
bring them or board members to bring
them
into a forum for discussion
like you said with the legislature just
because someone brings something forward
doesn't mean that we have another policy
committee are going to act on it but but
people can bring those things I say the
vast majority of bills that are get
introduced don't
um become law
I agree wholeheartedly and that
there isn't a monopoly on identifying
you know significant improvements
to what we do
we would not want any of that
categorization at least first cut a
categorization too
I mean like just the
refinement of I think we have a pretty
good complaint policy
and it can be like improved and doesn't
really fall into clean I wouldn't say
it's clean up it's not compliance not
tsunashima but like we could
it'd be better for our families and be
more efficient use of Staff time
so and that may be something that like
if like that's something we've talked
about that may be something that the
committee like we as a committee then
get to decide is that how we're going to
prioritize our work and see are there
other things so we'll continue to have
those conversations
and I don't think that this is cut and
dry that if it doesn't fit into one of
these buckets we don't do it but I think
it's saying we're this is some of how
we're thinking about the work we do I
think cleanup as we're talking about it
isn't
um in Artful label and again we'll
refine those because I would put you
know a bit broader than just clean up in
some of those
revisions that are essential essential
and not that it's probably not wholesale
rewrite but it is Improvement yeah like
and like the policy you know we updated
the complaint policy and we're living
into it and we'll learn things as we
live into it and then we need to make
adjustments so
I mean I would instead of other which I
think is like a little bit so clean up I
think there's probably a better word for
it um
Heather it seems like there's like an
emerging issue or like Community
surfaced issues or like board service
issues that like just other seems like
uh
I don't know like a too generic
did you have anything else
um
the job done I think you have some uh
um thoughts about uh religious holidays
yeah
I don't know the thoughts is it the
compliance trying to put it into that
bucket yeah thank you
um so uh good afternoon and perfect with
our although it's not a religious
holiday this should be like cultural
events and religious holidays I think we
had public testimony last night about
indigenous people's day which I think
from our LLC students which is impactful
so
super adorable I'm curious how is this
compliance or is there are we out of
compliance with some law or something
uh I think they're I think it's roughly
compliance as we think about First
Amendment free exercise and
Establishment Clause issues both okay
again these are thinking construct first
draft not not but it helps us just think
about the buckets our work Falls in on
the kinds of places we're spending our
time there's some students who would say
it affects students yeah In fairness
cool all right well uh so I'm here to
provide uh the board committee and
update our work to strengthen
00h 25m 00s
communication uh and across the district
so that we are all uh providing the
supports to to families and students who
observe some major hot religious and
cultural holidays uh Roseanne is uh
posting materials on the website
um do we have them today
so so one a few things here's one
document oh do you have it Gary yeah
this is I'm forward
oh yeah there's more than one yes
but there's no slide deck
sorry
do we have this the deck
it wasn't materials she's so rosanna's
trying to post her right now but because
it's online I just can't yeah is it on
board books
it came on today
yeah
I'm just trying to it is oh I don't see
it in advance
oh there it is okay
if you want to give me
just
Roseanne can you email it if you don't
mind
so as this is getting up I just want to
provide uh just a quick update on work
today and some next steps connected to
this so uh one I wanted to share that we
are uh finalizing update to the PPS
calendar which is what just was shared
with you here uh as as you all know
there is a request that we include
religion religious holidays and cultural
Services into the district's calendar
which we've done here as a draft and as
you all know uh there we've we've
drafted that put that in there although
school is in session uh you know that we
will try we'll try we will be very
explicit about avoiding conflicts there
so that's that's uh update number one
update number two is that um our staff
has been really uh clear and working at
the school level in other words with our
principals and have been communicating
and providing really robust information
about avoiding conflicts uh in fact we
created an internal Google Calendar uh
that just uh you know automatically puts
uh these events uh these major holidays
on folks's calendars blocks it off if
you will uh and we also included it I
included a monthly principles checklist
uh
and I I want to be very explicit here I
think the folk and this is part of our
continuous Improvement efforts I will
say that our Focus has been uh with
school level uh staff in other words
with our principals communicating that
with them and what we're learning is
that it uh that this requires a
three-prong approach uh to communicating
and I'll get to that in a little bit and
a lot of that comes from our
conversation that we had a few weeks ago
with uh the Jewish Federation under
greater Portland uh they reached out to
us uh in the spirit of of uh partnership
in the spirit of you know PPS can do
better uh and so they shared uh feedback
in terms of uh what they have been
hearing from our community uh some of
the things that that we heard from them
as you can see on your slide is uh
making sure that we provide clear and
targeted communication and I want to be
clear of what that means uh they noted
for example in in one of our they noted
that that some of that some major
holidays in the Jewish calendar or the
Muslim calendar start the day you know
the Sun the sunset prior right but but
the holiday in fact is the day you know
the day of so like January 6th January
6th Sundown starts on January 4th
wait a week January sorry fifth sorry
fifth and sixth thank you
the when we communicate holidays we
typically communicate January 6 not
January 5th and so so one of the shifts
that we want to start making is making
sure that folks know you know and we we
do it we acknowledge that the the
holiday starts in Sundown but we're not
as explicit as saying you know families
in fact you know might have different
activities in the morning even though
this Sunday Sunset Sundown the holiday
starts on Sundown does that make sense
well if you're saying the sixth and it's
like oh we can still have our PTA
meeting on the 5th but that's not true
correct so you can't actually have any
literacy event on the fifth correct yeah
one of the things that I would be
interested in is hearing
um just there's a spectrum because
um at sundown is not like some
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um I believe you're Orthodox Jewish you
would prepare all your food and have
that all done
beforehand so it would be like saying
hey Christmas starts at the Christmas
dinner and you can schedule up until
Christmas dinner time
which is like a Sundown or whatever
um so I
I think especially for like the two
major days which
um are on usually on school days that
we should be like
um
think about the language we use because
otherwise I do think people will be like
oh Sunday you know I can go right up
into Sundown and like never mind people
meet some people might not drive
um once the holiday starts and like they
don't have a way to get home
that's right the the second thing that
came out of uh or a second uh highlight
I would I would say is the desire for
targeted communication and targeted
engagement and what I mean by that is uh
what we know is that a large section of
for example of our Jewish Community
lives in the southwest they attend
Southwest schools just like a large
population of our Vietnamese Community
you know 10 schools on the east side of
Portland and so how do we create cluster
uh PD if you will or cluster specific uh
resources uh so that you know school
principals can can really work with
their communities to address the
specific holidays in those in those
communities I was gonna say like for me
volunteering at grout when Ramadan
started last year the EAS were like oh
hey remember it's Ramadan so if you see
a kid not eating
don't worry about it right don't bother
them about it basically because normally
if a kid's not eating we'll say oh hey
how you doing buddy what's going on
today but it was that again cultural
sensitivity that they had all been
trained and we're all prepared and then
they were reminding me who's you know
not receiving PD to to be culturally
sensitive and they do the same thing
with anyone who's subbing right
um so that that's the kind of thing
where we don't want to put a kid in a
weird space absolutely
um the again as I mentioned we've been
doing work ground work with the school
level or principals and to that end some
important things to know is that this
year no back to school nights conflicted
with any of our win the Jewish holidays
which is important
um um you know but we we know we can do
more there are there have been other
areas right the outdoor schools I look
at all of April right outdoor school
yeah and so we are working as you can
know in our some of our next steps we
continue to work with the community to
address that and and make sure that
we're mitigating the the impact
especially you know as we get into the
spring
um so again in terms of some next steps
and I'll I'll Rush here uh one of the
things that was really important uh for
me and the team to in meeting with the
Jewish Federation that it offered us
opportunities to think about what does
it look like to engage with our with the
Interfaith Council you know to seek
guidance from other faith-based
organizations could gatherers if you
will uh to to inform our process and
other community-based organizations like
apono like the Muslim educational trusts
so we'll be reaching out to those folks
uh and and seeking guidance uh so that
this can be strengthened and and again
in the spirit of continuous Improvement
we're actively working right now with
our pil Athletics team to uh to make
sure that scheduling for athletics it
doesn't conflict uh for the next school
year and as you mentioned I continue to
work with outdoor school or with musd on
outdoor school uh go ahead oh
um
with msdp for me it was previously on
the board of mesd and so the outdoor
school stuff
from my remembrance
um
because they don't own those sites
um that's where they're going to have
the biggest hurdle yeah
um because they're gonna bid on the
sites so just as a note of caution yeah
I'm talking to them about that
um and so there's other we have you know
they they're the biggest one they use
them but that's just one of their issues
absolutely
um so if we go to the well I'll go to
the next before we go to the next slide
I'll just note one of the things that we
learned from the Jewish Federation
leadership is that there is a
legislative bill that is being uh
possibly championed at this let's just
at the state level uh around religious
and cultural holidays uh and so uh in it
it essentially will
um
encourage school districts to develop a
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a plan for how it support how we support
families who need to and honor religious
holidays so
um we don't know yet who's spot we
haven't seen that we tried to find the
language correct we there there isn't a
bill there's but what we know is that
there are conversations that osba uh and
other folks are having with legislators
on that so we'll Monitor and obviously
as we're working through the legislative
priorities We'll add that to the list so
yeah I mean one thing I would say about
that is um if we're going to support it
we should make sure that we
um have a strong and robust Plan before
we
I mean just so that we're not saying hey
we should have this but we we're not
doing it ourselves absolutely my hope
would be that we are meeting and frankly
exceeding whatever would come down in
that bill but we're a little bit in the
blind because we don't know what it is
yet but we're proceeding on
the work
excellent and I think the conversation
for the future is do we take like Eid
off right like where are there are there
any holidays that were currently not
days off school that we think might need
to be that's the next piece of this
conversation and I know that that
involves negotiation with labor Partners
but that that's what we have from our
students instructional hours
instructional hours I mean it might be
an extent in the school year all sorts
of things but that that's some of the
feedback we heard from our students last
year was this is the first step is there
more
so next slide I just really quick on the
next two slides so here is I just want
to give you a kind of a sense of how
we're thinking about it and how we're
beginning to shift communication uh
we'll begin to we will begin to shift
communication and major religious
holidays uh religious and cultural
holidays here so as we mentioned
um we've been really focused on the
school level Communication in other
words to our principals about avoiding
scheduling important events uh that by
their nature cannot be made up such as
picture day open house back to school
Outdoor School Etc uh I think the next
so the next level of work that we're uh
is underway is uh communication to
classroom level
to our Educators and school-based staff
uh so that they can avoid you know and
make reasonable accommodations when
scheduling quizzes tests final exam
reviews field trips or other major
classroom based activities so again you
know well again we've been focused on
the principle making sure that our
classroom educators other information
and similarly now more foundational is
all PPS communication making sure
district-wide we have our central office
departments uh and you know ptas etc etc
aware of these uh holidays so using a
three-prong approach I think will will
strengthen our our uh and avoid you know
some of some of these challenges that
we've had over the years and it is
challenging because like we had a we had
we had now that we're changing for
Michelle's schedule but uh policy
committee on February 22nd which I found
out when I was doing planning is Ash
Wednesday
and that's kind of like my job so I have
a worship service that night and I was
like whoops
um so I have a worship service that
starts at seven and a policy company
meeting that ends at six so that's not
gonna work for me but it can be
challenging when we're looking at
calendars not necessarily to think about
those holidays whether they're our own
or others right so I
um
so she brought up Ash Wednesday
how do we select the holidays in terms
of what gets
like major and I know how we
um
but the process was for which religions
using a constitutional standard but I'm
wondering about the
um the holidays
um
so I'm not quite sure how to phrase this
but I would say that like um people say
hey um if you're a Christian you've got
the whole Chris like it's called winter
break but it's really like Christmas
break you get a whole bunch of days off
around it or Hanukkah break this year
um and then also that you're like you're
getting Ash Wednesday and Passover and
Good Friday and I'm just curious like
um is there a constitutional test for
that or
I think the Constitutional standard
would be to have a religious and neutral
way of selecting the states and and what
was the religious neutral way of
deciding
well what I see I mean what I stand here
are the high holy Jewish days the
Hanukkah which is not necessarily High
holy and then Ramadan
and then Ash Wednesday but after and
then like East uh Good Friday is also
during Ramadan this year so
there's overlap just to play Devil's
Advocate maybe it's an appropriate term
yeah
um just you know like we have December
25th marked off as Christmas
um if you're a non-Christian it feels
like that whole lead up
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and then break a lot of it
um is about Christmas
and so it just says 25th and then like
we've also got those these other ones so
I
I don't have a point I don't have a
point of view but I'm just raising an
issue that could be the perception of
the community that it's very Christian
oriented
it says just the 25th but
there's no school I don't think we've
dug into the history of how those two
weeks were identified and why that
holiday has two I mean I think that goes
way back into some areas that I wouldn't
build okay I'm just I'm just flagging
that we should ask the question no and I
think that's a fair question I think you
know and I would say one of the things
that and I think part of why we what I
I'm advising or recommending that we
seek out guidance from some of our the
Interfaith council is what was
instrumental for me in meeting with the
Jewish Federation was that they
articulated that although the Jewish
faith has endless holidays if you will
their primary focus and they were very
explicit was Rosh Hashanah Yom Kippur
and Passover right those are the like if
the district is going to communicate
clearly and so knowing that they are a
strong suit in the Jewish Community I I
have a tendency to believe what they're
saying to to me so if I reach out to the
Muslim education trust for example what
would they are or what would they share
with us right
it I guess it's tricky because you know
you know so I guess my bigger issue is
I'm saying that it seems to me that it's
there's like an over index on Christian
holidays
um because I know nobody would schedule
something on December 24th because it's
Christmas Eve
um
so I'm just
amazing issue that I think we should
have a great conversation about because
yeah I think the the conceptual question
you raise is why is the two-week winter
break then right right I wouldn't I
don't think I'm with you so far that
every one of those days is tied to
Christian practices or religion but why
back in the day because it's been around
longer than I have are those the days
that are recognized and the movie does
not surprise me there's stuff back when
Christmas trees were in schools yeah
but I don't know that that so you have
to do that historical look back to
understand that the origin and then
probably understand
the practice today and why and so as
that kind of second does it become
secular rights that's a great example
are all all of those 10 days created
equal
s weekdays right and then yeah and I
think I mean if we want to have a bigger
conversation about moving one hour
winter break-ins right like that that is
a conversation we could have of saying
why is this when it is in our school
calendar and is that really the the time
that makes the most sense for our
students at academic achievement to have
a break of that length I mean that I
think that's the ultimate conversation
right now it's out of tradition and and
I think we can say that the tradition it
was founded in a from a maybe a
Christian world view but that's not the
world we live in anymore and maybe never
should have been so how do we think
about this both that that's a big change
for people because I think that cultural
thing of a winter break is huge
um but I think
you know to think to really think like
you're bringing forward for us Julia
thoughtfully about what does our
calendar look like and why like why do
we have I want to break here
what is best for our student outcomes
and that's that's a bigger conversation
but I think it's important to have
before us while we're thinking about
these things yeah and I'm mainly more
asking it because
um I think many secular Christians don't
celebrate Ash Wednesday or
a good Friday and so I would just
throwing it out there just for
a longer discussion I'm also curious on
November 25th is that also Thanksgiving
it's labeled as Native American Heritage
day
yes
November 25th I think November 25th is
Thanksgiving as well
November 24th is Thanksgiving so
November 25th was the day after
Thanksgiving so we don't have
Thanksgiving listed though because it's
not a cultural
this is a cultural Day Thanksgiving is a
but Christmas is a national holiday but
it's also a religious holiday
so
Davis yeah
um so Nick just next slide just to just
highlight the point I'm done here is as
you can see like Russia China here
making sure the 26th and 27 are on there
and still acknowledging that it starts
at sundown the first day on this
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calendar so we had more work to do
um on keep making certifying Community
Communications
I would welcome feedback to the proposed
calendar Amendment if you will that's in
front of me not Amendment but
a different way of looking at the
calendar so feel free to provide edits
and comments to me and we'll get we'll
try to we'll not try we'll get it out
next week to our Traders and community
so I have a question
um I really like this
please because I just saw it so yeah
just giving real-time feedback
um it's not intuitive necessarily to
turn it over
um so uh you know on the asterisk
because you're like wow what are all
those things
um to make sure that people know where
they can find where those things are
yeah
um
and it's on electronically you just it's
just one right yeah but I think but I
but I think we should what we should do
is probably 11 by 17 and wow
yes I'm thinking a design way yes yeah
so then the other question I have is so
like right now like I'm trying to see
whether something's happening at PPS I
go to the website
I don't I don't go to look at this
I look at this all the time because I'm
a parent well I look at this at the
beginning of the year and I put
everything on it so that I need to have
on it on my calendar
but then there's some things that aren't
on this like Community meetings and
everything so I look at that website
calendar yeah and it seems like it
should be there too because like I think
BAC had a I I don't know how like
meetings like that get scheduled BAC the
climate committee like are people
looking at the
website calendar if they are those
things should be on there because we had
a vac on Rosh Hashanah or yeah that's a
that's great yeah we'll make sure that
it's on the universal PPS website
calendar as well I think the board
office has also started a new practice
of kind of looking at those dates before
those Republicans
uh for we look at the dates and then we
have to see the office to also on their
hand to check once you get your customer
I can't hear you Rosanna so we've we
check and then for the Cub office they
we've asked if they could check as well
when the request committed to the school
site so it doesn't get that far
so that's great is there a reason why we
can't put it on the other calendar
as well I mean so I didn't hear that
part of the questions
because I'm like oh there's a totally
free day nothing scheduled an encounter
but the question was where do people
look and like we don't know so we have
the screening function at the in those
Publications yeah they should look and
then we have this hopefully stop Gap
but like you know Cara has sent me a
list of all the potential policy
committee meeting dates and I said yeah
that works
so like you know
I think we're still gonna have things
you know slip through but hopefully if
we have multiple Pathways Julia like
you're saying it'll be less likely
thank you very much anything else on
this subject Gary do you have anything
to add
oh gosh um you don't have to have
anything to add I just like to make
space for everybody's voice I appreciate
that
come on dude
oh let's suck this the son Peter is a
religious photo observant School in
session do not scheduled district-wide
events
event like sports events as well
so
bring
22-23 athletic schedule had already been
set
so there have been preliminary
conversations with Marshall about the
scheduling that will take place in
February of 23
24th season
to the extent it's all intra-pil
Marshall's you know initial reaction is
that most of it works they may football
is the one he had to pause and think
about but that's just a conceptual level
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we can control only the intra-district
activities but the question and so I
think that makes uh to your point though
I want to make sure that in this in this
document that you're seeing it is clear
um and so I want to lift up some of the
the nuances of what this means now
right and if the work is Progressive and
I don't know what the if there's
legislation that may have more influence
over Osa than we do right I don't know
yeah so
juneteen it's a federal and state
holiday so why is it on here
because I don't think because we don't
have other photos I thought that's why
we didn't have in front of other federal
holidays listed I mean I think we we
were framing it as a cultural follow-up
day
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for observation
to your point yeah it's moved to Federal
I'm just trying to make sense of like
and like indigenous people's day as a
federal
has Federal designation but we don't
take it off this school day right
so that's complicated yeah it's all the
other ones are on here coded differently
this one just has the religious cultural
exclusive holidays are noted here
differently yeah I think it's probably I
think we should shift it over to the
other because it's a federal yeah yeah
it doesn't if that makes sense
okay
all right anything else on this matter
thank you Jonathan
okay we're like eight minutes ahead of
schedule
you hang on to that
um field trips
so this is
um picking up where we left off many
months ago and checking in about the
direction from the committee
I didn't go back to look at the oh it
says 3 4 22. so in March
um
we brought uh staff brought a proposal
to the committee my recall is that the
committee voted it out it went to the
board and then it was paused the change
is to alter the governance on individual
field trip approvals
that sparked a discussion about equity
and field trips and led ultimately to
the budget the budgeting of an equitable
field trip fund
um there has been some conversation not
at the committee level but in other
contexts about whether
approving individual field trips and
it's a pretty narrow category is
necessary to give visibility to
the implementation of the Equitable
field trip funds I think that is um
the board can decide what it wants to
approve and what it wants to look at I
would just observe that that gives you a
very narrow look at the scope of field
trips that are actually happening that
there's a there's a much broader uh
population of field trips that doesn't
come to you for approval so if you're
weighing those policy decisions I'm not
sure one fixes the other it's not
there's overlap but it's not a complete
match so
um we just
want to know if we you want us to
progress with the proposed amendments
that were paused for that very important
Equitable field trip reason or if you
want us to proceed further
so my my personal opinion the
conversation I'll have as a committee is
that I think that the board shouldn't
approve field trips and I think the
board should get a quarterly of all the
field trips so we can be looking through
that equity
that's that's because I think that
Equity piece is really important to see
where where the funds we've allocated
are going and and who's getting to own
field trips and who's not and how we
might think about again the impact of
that on our students
what do you all like
so I guess for me when I look at this
piece
um we know when you say Courtney that
that's after things have already
happened
right so if something is not going right
then we're being reactive again
um
and two because we don't know how the
budget is going to be with the
Equity Fund we did for field trips
I know it's fine right now but in the
new budget process of those numbers gets
reduced or what happened then
what other
observation that we have to make sure
that we're still Equitable opportunities
for
too
and that was just some of the biggest
things that I have
business
so you'd rather have us see field trips
before they happen rather than after
sure
it happened right now the fact that they
don't do it that way sometimes I think
that's just
how to figure out how to do it yeah so
the field trips field trip like if kids
are going to the pumpkin patch here in
Portland I don't know if kids still do
that but when I was in elementary school
we went to Pumpkin Patch if that's
during the school day then the board
never approves that and within a certain
distance
right but if if we're taking kids to but
if we're taking the entire second grade
it done away to Ashland for the
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Shakespeare plays then the board would
approve that so we don't see the like in
town right field trips so that's that's
the question is I think we should see if
we're concerned about equity and field
trips I think we should see all of the
field trips because I think that would
be interesting to know
um and right now we're only seeing the
field trips that are overnight and 150
miles right it's interesting because we
did get all the field trips at one point
in time and
um it was some exercise we got all the
field trips and you know it does seem
like every school goes to the Bonneville
like salmon hatchery I mean yeah so I
would say like actually it looks like
because those are cheaper right
um and there seems to be like I say
you'd see like 50 trips and it's like oh
every Elementary School third grade went
to do X
the Franz red Factory
I know you did that Gary
I still have my ruler for my second
grade field trip
I love that
um
so it seems like that and so I the
differentiator it seems like there's the
over 150 is when you really get the
inequities of I mean here's what I've
heard and observed is like things that
cost money or
you know for middle schools like getting
chaperones for some schools it is a
challenge
um to for more than 115 miles for a
variety of things people's parents work
schedules everything else cost
um
so one I think it's like do I need to
see that everybody's going to the
Bonneville fish hatcheries like it seems
to be happening but where we really get
the the bigger I think the biggest
equity
um differences is you know a several
week trip to Japan or the trip to Europe
that was what four hundred thousand
dollars
um for one school
with several hundred kids so I think
that's to me that's where you start
getting these big differences and like
then at middle schools like some middle
schools didn't appear to have any field
trips and others like a way more robust
so then that's the those middle schools
may be having field trips they're just
not the 150 mile field trips
well I'm talking to students like they
weren't having any field trips
so and then there's I mean we have
issues like so at Llewellyn we would
have field trips
all the time to Oak spot
like every class did a couple trips a
year because they could walk down and
like learn about tadpoles right so so
that's a they're super close they just
walk down the hill yeah
um so we do have some of those kinds of
things where Llewellyn is uniquely
located and I'm sure we have other
schools that are like right across the
street from France
and yeah stuff like that yeah yeah I
guess for me I'm looking at two of the
exposure piece right when we talk about
trips that
um like out of state trips foreign
travel
um no that's when I look at the equity
piece that's the exposure that
a lot of kids are not afforded right and
so as a board member when you're looking
at equity and exposure
um that's something that I would have an
interest in seeing or making or lose
seeing or looking at to have some kind
of a company that we are allowing all
schools to get that exposure right if
there's something in Oregon I get it you
know um and maybe we
maybe we can you know add you know
instead of 150 miles maybe 200 miles or
whatever that is but when I think about
uh but for instance the girls basketball
team going to Phoenix right well when I
talked with of course not he was like
well this is the first time that we
actually got some money for doing stuff
right and now this allows us to do more
stuff
um the older kind of things that I think
one
I would definitely want to know about
two I think that's something we can
celebrate when we talk about our pieces
and we talked about access and exposure
you know um he took last year he took a
group of girls to the uh
African-American Museum in DC right
those are those are the stuff that we
want to know I want to make sure that
that's happening as a board member
um
and so maybe it could be a minute some
you know or something like that but as a
Boardman probably really wanna see that
because those are those exposure pieces
that growing up a lot of kids don't have
special kids probably don't get to and
if we can figure out a way to do that
even more you know that's so that's why
I only use a while when you want to keep
looking at
um again we just are looking for
directions so we are moving when we need
to move and standing down I'm okay for
us to keep
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approving these field trips and keeping
them before our eyes I mean I think it's
if the
if reacting is what you're concerned
about yes the approval is a proxy for
visibility right as long as that's a
conscious Choice again yeah we don't I'm
not gonna it's not hey Gary
I'm curious how did how did you know
that that was paid for by the fund it
did it say that are you called
hey this is pretty cool play are you
getting help we passed the statistics
he's like yes and it was awesome you
know even the excitement and the voice
about it was like cool and then I talked
to some girl because they're all seniors
so a lot of them play with my dog and
stuff and they was like oh yeah it'll be
great then we get to go here and they're
gonna they're looking at taking a trip
to like the Dr and this you know they're
doing all this other stuff that they
could do now because they're not
spending all their money on this one
trip right and so I think for something
me like I said that's what I would love
to see and I think by doing that we
could keep an eye on the equity piece
and also when we're looking at budget
pieces make sure we prioritize in the
budget stuff we're seeing stuff every
three months or four months and it's you
know kind of just tossed over I don't I
don't want us to lose that Focus
um to be able to fight that
it would be nice if on the field trip
saying it could say you know sponsored
in part by the field trip Equity Fund
yeah somewhere on there yeah and that
would be helpful because I that would be
great this must celebrate yeah once we
exercise this muscle for a period of
time and like it becomes like
institutionalized in in the budget and
and the practice gets institutionalized
that we're we're doing it it seems like
then I think there's less need for
visibility but you know it's like comes
and goes Board of exchange staff changes
um and I think if what you don't see you
also don't necessarily vow value things
just disappear sometimes in large
institutions when people don't have this
ability to do it
um so it sounds like we want to
reinstate line four there that was
crossed off all out of state and foreign
travel shall require prior board
approval with the exception of travel up
to 150 miles from the PPS headquarter
so my understanding of that is Ashland
actually is 150 miles away but it's in
state
so you wouldn't have to get approval to
go to Ashland but and you don't have to
get approval to go to Vancouver
so as long as you're in the state of
Oregon you can go
it's the Vancouver this is the Vancouver
right
but is it and we don't see overnight
it's like if they were taking an
overnight trip to Ashland we wouldn't
see that because it's instinct
okay fashion is 100 more than 150 miles
I know we did this whole calculation
well I don't but it's in state because
it says out of state
and foreign travel
okay
we did Heather there was something
that we're trying to solve
right so I think no I'm just trying to
say are we approving field trips to
Ashland if it's more than well I think
it's fine to help because if it says if
it's
out of state
in foreign out of state and foreign
travel unless you're only going 150
miles we spent so much time on those
words yes yes and I'm just gonna make
you try out
yeah so I can't go to Idaho I could go
into Washington we understand you can
but I know you just have to get approval
yeah I'm fine with reinstating four and
I'm fine with the going ahead with the
other changes
yeah adding more students adding
students at the beginning
that's underlined and red
and then
the changes in three and then
reinstating four
three eight
three baby
so what what do you all think on those
changes yeah I just had some
clarification on B
uh with an overnight look into an
international Scripts will be approved
on the principal advancement to risk
management and the principal supervisor
for front approval so if the risk
management
approving it are there informing
they have review and approval but they
would not have the only approval right
instead the entire language was reviewed
but actually risk has to sign off
and it's not final approval for some of
those because it's it will still yeah
it's it's really the compliance have you
do you have the safety pieces do you
have the housing pieces are you in an
approved housing
as you have looked at all those I'm sure
uh meeting after meeting there's a lot
of detail well it has to be approved by
the principal and risk management yes it
has to improved the principal
principal supervisor right so if you say
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that that's what it says this is
overnight Wilderness and international
trips will be approved by the principal
and then sent to risk management and the
principal supervisor for approval if you
need to make sure the principal doesn't
his or her job first and then the others
follow I think that's what it's trying
it doesn't mean that it couldn't be
tightened but it's yeah it's not all at
once
if we're leaving foreign though I don't
think we need the word International
because that's gonna that's gonna go
through all those things anyway yes
um but over overnight in wilderness
could be
yeah within 10 miles
I can see why you're confused they're
very about that there's a way to clean
that language can you take and out and
say maybe approved by the principal
being sent to risk management
well and the so risk management approves
it and the principal's supervisor
we could put a period after principle
the first approval and we could say once
approved by the principal
it must then be approved by risk
management by both risk management I
think we should just do comma
subsequently to risk management and the
principal supervisor for approval I
don't want to do something subsequently
in there but I mean versus all versus
sequentially how about that's the only
thing for me is
this comma and then sent to both risk
management and the principal's
supervisor for their approvals
so we we are clear it's plural does that
make sense okay so I'll say that again
approved by the principal comma and then
sent to both risk management and the
principal supervisors or the principal's
supervisor for their approvals
so again three times we say
uh
plural that's the word plural
okay anything else
so do we can we put this on the next
yes I think that can move to the board
are we okay just a quick question
so can we put any in here anything to
say like the bishop will help make your
stuff
um
we couldn't talk about that yeah the
distribution of the Equitable funds
isn't covered in this policy it doesn't
mean that the district isn't already
doing that
um so it depends what the policy
objective is
I mean I think this is
I'm sorry Gary what did you ask oh I
feel anywhere in here can we put where
the district will help financially for
trips so I mean it's it's an interesting
question because you could memorialize
the if
we wanted to make it more permanent
versus like last year it was a budget
note or a budget Edition by
the board you could in the policy have
something high level which is the
district will establish and fund you
know at the board's discretion or
whatever or a and I forget what we what
we called it
um and you could just name the fund
that could go in that I mean the first
sentence the district believes in the
value of experiences outside the
classroom and Endeavors to make these
opportunities available to students
the board has established
yeah I mean so this is nothing about the
the purpose of that because I think
that's fantastic I think when for the
board to that approves the budget to put
in policy
requirements on itself for a budget over
time is is awkward governance sometimes
right I mean you're you already
controlled the budget and what goes in
there
and budgeting through policy that's not
a budgeting policy but a field I don't
know how many other times like all the
places we try to find information to
make sure we're compliant is where do
you look and so there's a there are
value statements and there are
instructions to you know staff to
execute on the policy and value
statements and then there's and thou
shalt budget and I yeah so much as an
appropriation versus like you know we
have in our policy like there should be
a foundation for the district
um
and so to me it
you know it's ironic that these words
make it sound like we had Equity
um before the fund when we really we
really didn't
um
so I to me it was there's like I'm just
thinking like legislating you have the
authorization and then like the
appropriation and I don't think
you want to appropriate in policy but I
think you can
um you can
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um
describe a mechanism that would create
equity and then then it's up to like an
annual appropriation about you know how
much or whether there's an appropriation
um maybe you could say
the superintendent shall build into the
budget this right but but you telling
yourselves how much to budget scene no
that's the appropriation but I'm saying
you could say in this policy that we're
going to have a a fund like the thing
which is the mechanism
and then in the budget process that's
when it's decided you know zero to a
million dollars but you want to put it
let's say anyway yeah I'm not I'm not
opposed to this I just think it's messy
and so I think like I mean the question
is does the value statement
um
speak to the value and then the way
we're living out the value is the fund
and do we need to I mean I could see a
case for insurance running in a policy
I'm not like but I just think it's
it makes it more complicated
um because we're already doing it and we
intend to keep doing it and that's
but I mean I could see why we might want
to put it in there
and board members come and go right
that's the kind of what I'm thinking
about after we're gone after the you
know this Administration is gone
to make sure that there's something in
here for that steal it's outside it
might be fine to add a sentence to that
beginning we just need to decide what
that is and write it if we want this to
go forward to the next to the board at
the next board meeting
so is there a sentence the idea of a
maybe draft sentence you'd like to put
in there if you
move on to the next item I could come up
with something
to shoot share okay let's do that so
we're going to table that right now
Julie is going to take a bracket adding
a sentence to that first paragraph
John Roberts music order two just set
aside just set aside non-robbered rules
of tables informal
well it's I don't usually I kind of I
know you want to pay attention to these
decisions so I already looked at them
and I'm okay you're on board okay great
then let's go for it Liz I just don't
want you to like not be I wouldn't have
offered
perfect and again it's it's governance
versus substance and they're very
different and I'm the substance yeah
um two nominations for rescissions one
is uh as you can see school
demonstrations
it's not aligned with our
values are approached nope yeah and like
we provided the very thoughtful toolkit
that actually does a much better job so
I can belabor the point that it sounds
like it's obvious
um and then the second is the community
campaigns and solicitations and we just
don't do this anymore right
so there's like no United Way or
anything like that yeah
I noticed we used to
tell schools they had to do run for the
Arts
this is an example of a very detailed
policy that doesn't stand the test of
time right and to get some of this
details like this out of policy into ad
or something else not for this topic but
so those are the two we would propose
for rescission
I'm fine with that
okay Julia in your two minutes
um yeah hold on I was just trying to see
what we called it and looking at the
all right let's can we take a five
minute break while you work on that
because I need to use the restroom and
then we'll come back
[Laughter]
maybe somebody could find it
um
what are you looking for the name of the
fund like when I when I introduced it it
was
[Applause]
um
yeah in May of
um
who was it like May 9th or
thank you
I don't I'm guessing this doesn't get
voted out today if we assert this
language so we probably have time to
technically
foreign
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because I can't remember exactly what
that document you shared
it
was like May 13th
we probably should actually not take
this to the board at the next meeting we
should probably let
our finance people have a glance to make
sure we're
the language we're adding
works
um
they're academic folks and our academic
folks and just make sure we're
we're being consistent throughout our
organization and how we're expressing
this
so um Julie what are you thinking on
that I'm just going to send this in you
guys you can do it later
um you can finesse it but it's just like
two sentences like and I don't think
using the name of the fund I think it's
better to not put a fun name in because
it may change but just more of a like a
description of an Equity Fund in the in
the support field trips and travel
for schools and then
um
it's you embedded in there but it's not
name so you have to keep changing it and
it's not an appropriation so it doesn't
get into the messy issue of
appropriating can you read what you have
I just say the District of established
I'm going to send this to you
establishing sustain an Equity Fund to
support field trips and travels for
schools the funnel will be subject to
the annual appropriation process or the
annual budget process
is it every field trip that it that is
or is it limited to certain kinds of
field trips that will be funded
well you can have the qualified since
we're not well I don't know that's
well what whatever
the language that Cheryl had in her
um sort of the criteria notices here on
behalf with everybody yeah I guess they
can still use that and you don't have to
try to figure out everything in here
alone they have whatever they have our
whatever we have already established we
can use that so maybe just say certain
types of trips I'm just you could put in
the ad the Equity Fund language that
exists I don't know we'll have to play
this I just yeah in Reading if there's
an expectation that that every trip will
get will get funded or yes
and that pot will always be full like
right so Cheryl has some criteria and I
think
um
we can keep it at two senses because I
don't think you want
I think just the policy just has it as
this is like the value and then you can
have detail on ads and the it's the
appropriation happens through the annual
budget process okay so Julia sent us
some draft language we'll have our folks
look at that and um
then we'll bring something back at the
next meeting and we'll just look at that
piece because we've already agreed on
the rest of the policy so that'll be in
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our December meetings
thank you that was helpful
okay thank you uh I believe that we have
some
public comment that's bad John we do
we have
um corunda Cruz virtually we'll start
there
all right hello uh board
and chairs how are you guys doing
good I like the bow tie back at it thank
you thank you thank you I had a I had a
presentation today earlier it's from
very good news but anyway but um I
wanted to
um I wanted to propose something to you
guys all and if something that you can
reconsider
um I noticed the complaint process uh as
I've been going through the complaint
process I feel like it's a barrier
um once I put the complaint process in
that now I cannot have a conversation
with any board members and I was
wondering if you guys can maybe
reconsider or maybe revise that policy
so community members can actually have a
conversation with our different concerns
what I found is that when we reach out
to you guys individually before we put
the complaint in it's hard to get a hold
of you guys sometimes you guys don't
respond and things of that nature so you
for the sense of urgency purposes you
have to put the complaint in so we can
get things moving but then that kind of
puts the barrier where I cannot have a
conversation with you guys all to kind
of give you details about you know
what's going on so you're only kind of
getting one-sided a one-sided view from
the district so once I put the complaint
in so now I'm like I feel like I'm in
jail so now I can't present any
information I can't talk to you so then
the only way I can you will hear from me
is at the hearing and um I just feel
like that's kind of problematic for the
community so I was just wondering if you
guys can maybe have a discussion about
that and maybe something you can
reconsider in your next meeting
all right thank you for bringing that up
Mr Cruz
is it true but it is true
there were
um the history as I recall it was that
it was
concerned that the board on
um the final complaint appeals is acting
as
more of a Judicial body than a
legislative elected governing board and
for that reason we wanted not to have
conversation individual conversations
that some board members might be having
that other board members are not and so
the final vote on that
appeal of a complaint decision
there might not be equal information
across all seven programs
I'm not
that wasn't my recommendation on the
thinking of the committee and I think
part of it was that um
you know
reports there were some
moments where board members were trying
to solve problems themselves without
staff and
there were some like conflicts happening
and different people saying different
things to different folks so it was like
how do we how do we make this as clean
as
like it's it's yeah it came up how it
came up Gary is
um Ephraim
sent a complaint in and he referenced a
video that he was disrespected in
and he said just look at the video and I
didn't like there was no video attached
so I asked him for the video and I
looked at the video and it was
yeah he was getting called out in an
assembly
um for a Black History Month
and so in a board meeting I said
something like yes it happened and then
somebody said no it didn't I was like
yes it did and the fact that I had the
I'd seen the videotape
because I because I read the complaint
and he referenced it and I didn't see
the video
but I'd ask for it that the sense was
that I had information that other board
members didn't have even though
everybody got the complaint and could
have asked for it so that was there's I
have a different perspective of that
that I don't want to get into at this
meeting but there were reasons that the
board chose to do that I think that Mr
Cruz has raised a really important
consideration
um I do want to be clear that the policy
is that we can't talk to Mr Cruz about
the specific complaint but we can talk
about like cbrc and teacher excellence
and other things so so I do think it's a
really important conversation to have as
we continue to look at our complaint
process and try to make it
um as Equitable and transparent for our
families as possible and so that is
something we will be bringing up and
talking about this year and so I think
this this piece that Mr Cruz has raised
is something for us to keep
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uh on the Forefront of our thoughts and
as we continue to try to make it it's
the last piece I would add is some of
the discussion on the other side of the
decision was
it's a
it's an awkward
people that you all have being elected
by the community and be contacted by
community members all the time and we
can come up with examples of what how it
it works and doesn't work well so it's
it's not a perfect does it does that
means for a staff can't talk to board
members as well
so one side can talk about the one-sided
that's the one-sidedness like so staff
versus complaining
website I'm not sure that's sides but so
two things Gary one thing so I think we
get the can I just please can I just
finish my sentence I'm gonna say I said
we're gonna consider this as we look at
talk to you afterwards Gary
I've organized this is a conversation
we're going to continue to have and I
thank Mr Cruz for his time we do have
other important testimony here and we
only have four minutes left of our
meeting so I'm going to go ahead
um Miss Bradshaw
all right thank you um Pastor I would
love to have a conversation with you as
well individually if I can bring on to
another speaker thank you Mr Cruz
Sarah Messier
hi
hi everyone
um good afternoon good to see you again
um I was at one of the regular board
meetings recently uh my name is Sarah
Messier and I'm a parent I'm a second
grader at sports
um so I'm here today to ask you to
perform a modernized policy
0.40.010 emergency Financial procedures
after the security event at Rosa Parks
this fall I was extremely disappointed
with the district's lack of response and
support for my school when I looked into
the policies related to emergency
planning I found two relevant policies
one about emergency plans and one about
drilling the drilling policies detailed
three pages long and outlined some types
of drills and months they should happen
it was last amended last June
this top Tech policy is great and when
actually helped my second grader during
his actual lockdown event he thought was
just a drug perfect however contrast
this to the emergency planning policy
it's a half page long was last updated
in 2002 and direct schools to come up
with their own individual emergency
plans
I know we can all agree that school
safety environment has drastically
changed it's been since then and I have
great concerns that this policy will not
keep our students and teachers safe
leading emergency planning Drilling and
response solely on the shoulders of
schools and school administrators is no
longer acceptable
is not safe it is beyond what school
ministers alone can manage and result in
inequitable outcomes
I expect the district's role and
responsibilities around emergency
planning and response to be codified in
policy
I looked around to policies in other
districts and really like the policy in
Newtown Connecticut where Sandy Hook
happened
the district's director of security
leads the planning and response work in
partnership with schools and other
emergency response professionals
I hope this body can align our policy
more because we'll see with this one
we've seen violence happen at APS
schools already this year I'm here to
ask you these questions does a half-page
policy keep our students safe and
support School administrators does it
have page policy ensure that every
school will be provided timely and has
certain resources to achieve Equitable
outcomes
does a half page of policy from the
Columbine era
set us up for success in the post Sandy
Hook era are in Portland where drive-by
shootings happen just on the week
thank you
um
thank you Julia I realized that I
thought the meeting ended at 5 30 it
ends at six so go ahead and come back to
that comment you were gonna make a few
minutes ago but we'll let um Miss Colby
Kennett do her public testimony
either way it works no it works
um
I have this for my ADHD brain but I
probably wouldn't go off script because
that's what it does
which uh okay just
see already just say your name
I'm the chair of the talented and gifted
advisory Council and I'm here to address
the policy change proposal to early
entry to kindergarten
um we tagack has actually discussed the
policy for early entry and how
inequitable is with at least three tag
directors but they and we have always
been under the impression that they
can't change it we can't change it
nothing can change and it's not your
purview
um but we have never liked it
uh we do however disagree that early
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entry to kindergarten is not a tax
service it is and it's one of the few
very few rate and level services
available for students in PBS
these kids need more they are
accelerated Learners they're highly
capable learners
this is one way to provide them the
services they need
going forward from kindergarten
um
we do have a vision for a change in this
policy
and we agree it really does need to
change it's it's just not good the way
it is
um and we want to become inclusive and
include social emotional
assessment and support
so in order to do that for the kids for
whom Pre-K is not enough because there
are kids out there who will lose their
Pre-K will be frustrating and boring my
kid was one of them she was done
absolutely done luckily she was three
days before the cutoff
so we proposed The Following
at the application process with
possibility of it to the Pre-K page so
that every parent who goes to the 3K
page can see it
start with a parent questionnaire and
possibly add a pediatric questionnaire
and talk with my kids pediatrician he
was adamant that they have identified
accelerated Learners highly continuous
neurodiverse Learners and nobody listens
to them they are good at
seeing these kids
um
Institute culturally competent
assessments with multiple metrics like
we are doing now identifying later the
way kids are identified now I don't like
it it's ridiculous there are ways to do
it that are not
giving them a test and that's it
um pay for
free introduced lunch students to get
these things done
great kids who don't have the money pay
for it and then
um at the school the kid will be going
to have admin or some other
um
teacher whomever preferably from the
kids Community assess that child either
in a classroom or one-on-one
and see if they are socially emotionally
ready for that classroom because not
every accelerated learner is and we
fully acknowledge this
is
thank you
sorry Billy what were you going to say
just actually I'm gonna go back to our
first agenda item did
um we consult tagak
about that change
yeah I mean I think we need Emily yeah
yeah
um
we we was we never heard about it and
I don't know I don't know necessarily
they would have because of it's not
under exception that it's not a tag
service
um
yeah makes sense so I think when they
these are the kind of questions if we
maybe we can email Emily um
and uh
when they bring that back for us to vote
out a committee next time to have that
conversation
are you going to email her or should I
oh I
don't know you guys oh
do you want me to
yeah and then yeah so the thing I was
gonna say Gary is that we get the weekly
complaint summary or every other week
so that we know people who have filed
complaints that this would be subject to
so for example
if I see somebody's name on there that I
have come have had conversations with
um
I look to see what they I actually click
on the link to see what the complaint's
about because to stay within the bounds
of the policy and it's like oh
they're calling me about the school
calendar and actually they filed a
complaint about air quality so I can
call them back about the school calendar
but I if they called about subject of
the complaint I have to say we have this
process blah blah blah that's why we get
that complaint summary
um and then the second
um thing I was going to say is
we had the dis
um
colloquy last night about the complaint
policy within division 22 and that that
could be this bifurcation of
our complaint policy so that it's the
ones that are under division 22 which
have a very strict set of rules and the
board comes to the board and then
a complaint process that follows the
division 22 guidelines but aren't about
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division 22 issues
and those those
may not ever come to the board and those
ones that never come to the board like
we wouldn't know if somebody filed a
complaint somebody could call us but
there is a possibility you could say hey
it's just the division 22 because those
are the ones that are kind of come to
the going to come to the board now you
could say you would also want to say the
ones that don't go to the board you can
discuss but you're not supposed to solve
because that's not the board's job but
it's not like you couldn't answer a
question like hey you should
you know whatever something that's
helpful or answer a question like no
you're misinterpreting that that's not
what that means and but not solving the
problem so yeah I think there's and
I guess the the
this is thought on the process not you
guys are the policy makers but any bit
we have towards resolution is a good
bend right yes we're trying to so as we
think about other categories
that would want to have as few
constraints towards resolution at any
level as we can because that's good for
mostly it's good for the families who
are trying to get something solved
so we're not there yet on the policy
yeah I mean for example
Mr Cruz sent a email about a complaint
that was rejected so I was like oh we
can have a conversation about it because
it wasn't it was diverted too it was
different sorry not rejected diverted
yeah
um I'm gonna be responded to you but
um sometimes it's just a conversation
like well it's because like you actually
asked for public records versus
something else and so
I mean that I think it's open that would
be open to the conversation if you're
like really trying to get people out of
this very time intensive process it's
like not good
time intensive for staff
for the individual for the individual
and for the board like it's all the
better
so we we are the December meeting will
bring a draft policy revision so we all
to look at in that talk about all these
issues but I I very much agree that
anything we do to get resolution faster
than Earth
it's good for families
okay anything else
all right then we are adjourned early
which is great I thought we were running
late on time and we had like 22 extra
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