2022-10-26 PPS School Board Intergovernmental Committee Meeting

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Date 2022-10-26
Time 13:00:00
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Event 1: PPS Board of Education’s Intergovernmental Committee 10 26 2022

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by phone right Ailee yes okay great um Courtney do you want to kick us off here yeah we're gonna start with a presentation about Sun so we'll be in any neighborhoods um do we know who's showing sharing slides Ben Ross just getting his slides up and running and then we'll get going I'm pretty nude in just a minute great and I guess I'll just set a little bit of the context for why we're um spending this time diving into our sun programming because we're about to begin um sort of a new round of uh RFP and Contracting process with our sun Partners so we really want to think deeply across our organization about um how we're serving our kids in partnership with sun where we're serving them what we're serving them and um think about how how and where we might want to do things differently in the future and why why it's such an important partnership absolutely and if I may uh chair uh Jonathan Garcia Chief of Staff I think in light of yesterday's conversation at the board meeting I think this is a timely conversation as we you know continue to build uh and strengthen our relationship with the county um by uh after school uh services to our families so just wanted to note that for the record absolutely thank you so much I'm I'm uh I'm really looking forward to having this conversation and having uh deep conversations as part of this process of rethinking um how we're going to approach uh just this how we might do things differently well thanks so much for the um for the nice setup uh chair con Sam uh my name is Danny Ledesma I'm the resj advisor for PPS and I joined uh by my colleague manrath Nye who is our resj son program manager um Ben Ross been with the district for over a year now um by way of a partnership organization and he has a lot of deep uh deep uh skill and experience in working with Partners in school districts um so I'm really um happy I get to monroth every day and uh happy that you'll get to hear a little bit more from minroth um I think what we want to do today before we jump into the sort of opportunity of sun funding is just give an opportunity to do some review about what is what is the sun Community School what is our sun system what does it look like at PBS and to Jonathan's um to Jonathan's point about our relationship with the county um how do we uh how do we sort of see the current alignment and where can we strengthen that alignment so we'll talk about that sun funding uh process so I'm going to turn it over to uh my colleague men Roth and he's going to give us just a little bit of an overview hi everybody can everybody hear me absolutely nice yep cool cool thanks everybody for um giving me this opportunity to be here and speak a little bit about Sun um and so we're going to start off with it's kind of um basis of what it's it's trying to do and so the basis of what sun is it's based on the idea of community schools and if you're not familiar with Community Schools we're going to go over that a little bit but right now if you look at the map on the slideshow you'll see that Community Schools isn't just a I think in Portland Oregon um and through Multnomah county is actually nation National Nationwide is about 5 000 Community Schools in the nation right now and so we'll break down what that exactly means and so Community School is uh it's really a school where the Community Partners come from across a broader Community to come together and educate support and create a collective impact uh this is where Community Resources are strategically organized to support Student Success and there's a focus on the whole child integrating academic Services supports and opportunities and so an ideal Community School will have these five kind of uh here uh in place and so that means a strong instructional core not only does it uh because a lot of people think that sun is just an extended day but it's also extension of the in-school day and so that is in alignment with the uh in school instructional core um expanded learning opportunities for Youth and families um again the what they do in the extended days will also offering services and programming for for families and not just the students authentic and culturally responsive path
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for family engagement um and so it's very strategic and deliberate that a lot of our sun agencies are a coaching based organizations Allah SEI a Latino Network Earth gold um and the reason being is because they want to reflect the Community Serve and and be in tune with the needs and the demands of the community being able to engage with that uh with those students and Families um another one will be wrapped around Services integrating uh services including social health and mental health resources so it's not just academic and enrichment based but also including everything that a student families may need for uh to be successful in the community and lastly shared leadership with families and the community and so really the success of a community school is not just based in programming but the shared ownership with all stakeholders within that programming slide so I think one of the things that we know and for for folks in our community Sun service system in Multnomah County just had its 20th anniversary uh during during the covid year so we didn't get to have a huge celebration but in that in that sort of partnership we've been trying to realize that big vision of what uh what a true Community School can look like um and so we partner with Multnomah County and the City of Portland to support a service system which is why we want to make sure that we're trying to demystify the Partnerships it is rather large and so we wanted to just take this time to talk a little bit more about what it looks like here in Multnomah County and so when people think about Sun uh they're automatically known for the extended day and after school programming and part of the demysticism that we want to do here is uh paint a clear picture of what Sun really is and what they really offer and so not only do they do you know culturally affirming and and well extended day programming but they provide a system of care uh that supports the social support and uh services to Youth and families that lead to educational success and sufficiency and self-sufficiency and so in our next slide you can kind of see all the things not just extended data that they offer and so some Community Schools which we just talked about which offers that extended day of programming service brokering access Service Coordination for families and students parent coordination uh access to information referrals and then of course that extended day but they also have uh Sun Youth Advocates and those are uh sort of like case match social workers in the sun program they have a caseload of kids that they check in on and make sure that they get all the services and uh support that they need um and then they have Family Resource Navigators which this is a relative new position during the pandemic they notice that a lot of their services uh kind of geared towards resource coordination and allocation and so out of that need they created a new role that specifically dealt with this resource and um allocation and coordination so in a role of a family resource Navigator they work with families they identify resources and coordinate those Resources with them uh resources such as food basic Supply needs domestic supplies rent utility assessments educational support uh and provide also family engagement and then lastly food pantry services and so they do offer in partnership with the food Oregon food bank weekly food distribution sites where any family in the community can come and get these free services uh they currently operate at 20 but now that we're going back out of the pandemic they're transitioning back to about 29 sites uh that will routinely happen weekly and or monthly at those sites so so now that you see sort of like what the larger system is we want to talk a little bit about what sun looks like at PBS and so we want to kind of pull back up to the sort of like 10 000 foot level and talk about our strategic plans so um men Roth uh together with our partners at the county and our our service providers have sort of done a review of when we look at our major themes and our strategic plan uh sort of like where those um where that alignment happens so we talk about racial equity and social justice under theme one that reimagining uh relationships and a sense of belonging uh the work that our sun partners are doing at the school site level and with families is really sort of reinforcing that making sure that there's Equitable access to facilities and resources or another place where our sun partners are establishing not just a place but a sense of belonging across the district for families that may not be as comfortable with big institutions but a way for them to sort of enter in into our into our school system with a positive
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um with a positive sort of like relationship um theme two inclusive and differentiated learning for um every child um this uh the idea of implementing our multi-tiered systems of support because of the relationship with Multnomah County Services and because of the system of care that sun does this is really important that we are aligned in the way that we think about what are those tiered supports those those differentiated supports that every student has access to the other thing uh when we talk about embracing change and strategic outcomes um building a collective sense across and velocity and cultivating and promoting aligned Community Partnerships it goes back to that vision of what a community school is about that sort of shared leadership and shared planning um where between the county the city of Portland PBS our school sites our families our students we want to make sure that we have a strong Sun system that is working uh together for families and students um we go to the next slide as you all know we've done a lot of work around our Partnerships with culturally specific organizations and our resj partnership strategies so when we talk about our um our theory of action that blends the strongest instructional core that braids the strong instructional core with our res day strategies we're talking about these five strategies culturally specific family engagement wrap around Services mentoring and leadership development enrichment and Extended Learning and positive cultural identity development so while many of our partners do overlap with our five Sun Partners we do have a lot of overlapping in terms of the strategies that sun is that sun is implementing at their uh at their 45 different schools throughout the district along with our resj partners and then uh finally we wanted to make sure that we're talking about the um the alignment with the strong instructional um core so as you know PBS has been uh really focused on implementation of our instructional framework and um when we talk about educational Equity the instructional framework and how Sun fits in we really sort of think about how can we make sure that professional learning that what's offered in Extended Learning is reinforcing uh the work of our instructional framework that we're aligning to grade level standards that were data driven but also we're utilizing our sun partners because of their expertise and culturally affirming Services we also want to make sure that they're that with our sun Community Schools that the model is promoting that alignment and integration of academics with services and supports so that our students are helping to meet our missions so let's talk about Sun by the numbers so at PBS uh we have five partner agencies so menroth mentioned a few of them so we partner with SEI with latino Network um with erco impact Northwest and the City of Portland through Parks and Recreation so those are our five partner agencies and when we talk about that funding opportunity that is something that could potentially be um be be changed right now we've in partnership with this County and with the city have identified 45 schools and each year Sun serves over 9 000 students um if we click on that link there uh whoops if we click on the link there um I wanted to make sure that you all saw this um this is a partner by school where we have all of our different services so if you go to the sun Services tab this is where you can see by each school so say for example if we looked at Arleta where we have the sun agency lead which is Parks and Rec and then you can see if youth advocacy is there um what who that staff is if who the sun resource Navigator is and then also um keep on scrolling to the left then also if there's a food food pantry and so that is available to board members to take a look we also have our child care providers and our esga providers so you have the keys to the castle uh there um so we wanted to give you this overview to tell you how sun is currently aligned at PBS because as director constam uh sort of relayed to everyone uh Sun typically has been doing a a sort of request for proposals where they re-um they sort of like re-release a funding notification and go through
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the formal procurement system of the County uh related to Sun uh this has not happened for over five years because of the pandemic and so um we do have a set of asks out to the county and we wanted to make sure that this committee along with our board of directors had an opportunity to weigh in so if you look at this timeline there's three slides that basically tell us kind of where we are and so right now sun is in the starting to close out their stakeholder feedback and Analysis and on the 31st the sun Coordinating Committee will be sort of reviewing all of that stakeholder feedback analysis we have also done uh sort of interviews with principals interviews with sun providers and um and with staff and we'll be sort of making sure that that's all part of this this feedback at the same time the county just like us is very data oriented they'll be looking at Community demographics to look at sort of where need might be moving um and then they'll start to start to develop a series of System Program model updates and I think that that is really a key time between November and December where we'll really want to continue to lean on our partners at Multnomah County and the city to make sure that our our sort of needs and opportunities where we see alignment are really sort of met in this opportunity to update the model um there's also going to be the county is going to be looking at cost and allocation just like we do and we look at our budget so if we go to the next slide a couple of other dates to look at is that Danny oh sure sorry can I interrupt you for just one second so I don't I don't know exactly what their stakeholder feedback and Analysis entails but will we be doing any um Community engagement relative to that last step that you talked about that it'll be so important for us to make sure that uh you know we're we're providing input on what our needs are yeah so um so men Roth I worked with um a consultant to do that process and so we have some of the feedback from there their stakeholder feedback is really similar to ours so they review they talk to students families principals service providers as well as to superintendents so the superintendent has talked you know directly with the chair as well as informed us as well as Ben Roth his counterparts at other districts um and all in all of the other Multnomah County districts the other thing that they've done and that we've also done is talk to folks who aren't served by the Sun System yeah trying to understand why um and so I think that's a that's a key piece there so I think in terms of their methodology and our methodology it's really similar um and uh I think we're we'll probably have much more uh District specific recommendations but I don't imagine that other districts don't have similar uh asks and so in two more slides we'll talk a little bit more about some of the emerging themes but you'll notice that between um between now and February those Sun System model updates will be made at the same time the county will experience a change in leadership so uh chair cafori has been a good shepherd of this process but a new chair will ultimately have to make this decision so we'd love to kind of work with um with Courtney and the board to to think about how we're really working in part partnership to make sure that this partnership is is sort of working for everyone early and often early and often yes um so there's some there's some advocacy and some asks that we have of the system that that are sort of starting to Bubble Up so you'll notice that in March the system will sort of get those feedbacks to those model updates they'll try to update in June and then going down to the next slide uh starting in the school year starting in September 2023 the procurement will be released um and so one thing that you'll notice is that for our resj Partnerships um we did a redesign and promised to do an RFP after four years which puts our procurement process along this timeline as the sun procurement process so we're in the process right now trying to do some planning just to think about how the impact will be on some of our service providers and having to this is a huge I've been on the rating panel for all of the all of the time that I've
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lived here uh in PBS and and Portland and it is a huge solicitation it's um it's a big amount of lift for providers to to sort of do this so um you'll notice that um they will then sort of use the time between April to July to support transitions so it is very likely um it could be likely that um the county could increase or change or add um or take away from some of the current providers so right now in PBS there are five service providers and so we'll have to work very closely with the county if there are some of those changes and transitions with the exception of impact Northwest and the city um SEI Latino Network and erco are major partners of us on the rsj partnership side um and uh so we we would want to sort of understand what that looks like so in the next slide um so so going back to what uh uh director constant talked about is you know so what are some of the feedback that's coming out and so I've kind of put it into two um two buckets for a second I think there's somebody who doesn't have their um computer on mute alien maybe are you in transition maybe it's you not sure but I'm getting a lot of um background noise sorry I'm in the room Amy I think we've got a group of folks talking in the cafeteria Lobby and I think that's what you're picking up oh okay I'm sorry okay um is that you asking me to talk louder um just joking um so uh I put our sort of asks into two categories one is about alignment and one is about investment so um one of the things that we've taught we've noticed and that we've talked about is that over time uh the schedule of um Sun Services has really moved away from the district schedule and this is um I would say a top priority for the super okay it starts in October is that that's right so typically our sun providers start um after school um they're on they're on site but not providing Direct Services after school to students until typically a month sometimes a month on six weeks after the start of the school year we've heard from principals we've heard from parents um and uh from the superintendent and from a lot of District staff about just that's that doesn't really work for families um and so there's a lot of reasons why historical and that have to do with funding uh that that Partners have talked about so we so we continue to sort of say like we would love to see with this redesign uh more uh more alignment to the to the school schedule um which also um also I'm going to skip over professional learning and talk about kindergarten services so um Sun after school historically hasn't uh served kindergartners which is um unfortunate as the city is the lead Agency for preschool for all um and it was because this you know this was all determined pre-full day kindergarten right so um I think now um just the reality of working families and the reality of sort of um time that we want with students I think that um we do need to kind of revisit with the county and with our our service providers about serving kindergartners um the other piece is that as you all know um with Dana nirenberg and under uh director under Dr Proctor's leadership we have done a lot of alignment with sun and the um and the The Learning Academy the summer Learning Academy um and it has been um as part of our contract with sun we do ask them to provide four weeks of services but we really want to make sure that it's aligned to the SLA we we so believe in the value of Extended Learning and enrichment uh paired with uh the in the Intensive academics it really just makes especially for our younger students though the work sing and so we want to create some some better aligned expectations of that the other thing is that um just like um just like you know our district we want to make sure that we're helping to build um and really build the capacity of our Service Partners and the staff there um and so we want to make sure that um we're we're thinking about professional learning and opportunities for some of our sun Partners we want to make sure that in terms of everything from restorative justice to social emotional learning to understanding grade level expectations and why that's important uh our commitment to racial equity and social justice we want to make sure that those Sun staff are getting
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opportunities to to Really sort of align and learn just as we are as a district um so that's the idea can you sorry I'm kind of Herky jerky here with the interjections um can you help me understand what the process is for these conversations about uh sort of changing the the tweaking the nature of our relationship yeah so if we go back to that timeline document as they're sort of updating the model um you know as staff um and you know from the superintendent to uh you know to focus on my team we are advocating pretty um pretty uh uh aggressively aggressively to sort of like make that sort of District known and the superintendent has also kind of worked with his um his colleagues his other other superintendents in the county and we're seeing a lot of alignment um I think that as a elected officials though um and the incoming chair because there will be a transition I do think that my recommendation is I do think there's an opportunity for the board to also think about some places to Advocate um not just in um not just uh you know to to the coordinating Council and with our providers but directly with the chair's office and with Multnomah County um and uh so I think that that Horizon between um you know that November to February when they're doing their first model updates I think will be really key I also believe that between March and may you know once we receive kind of like what those models updates are providing you know really specific feedback about how or how that or does or does not meet our priorities is going to be also important so I think it's um it's continuing to uh well I think my suggestion would be to love to hear the board's feedback um sort of you know see if there's anything that we can do to to kind of provide more information about these asks um see if there's places where we've missed if there's board member interest in something that's not on here um and then uh you know kind of create some opportunities for some conversations with uh with the folks at the county um to to start and you know um influencing that those model updates so I think that I think I think this is this is exactly why we have this committee here right now this is a perfect example and so uh speaking for myself I will definitely um you know work with my colleagues to advocate for the changes that that our service providers and our families and our our leaders and our schools are are looking for and are asking for and also frankly these are just some gaps that we know have existed for a long time so I think you can count on um the board advocating uh for those changes and then the piece that I would be interested in is um you know how and in what way and at what time would it be helpful to educate and mobilize our community around these things so I think um I do think there is some Nuance to understanding like you know I I put the alignment pieces in like the alignment bucket but they do have a fiscal impact right so I think um this year we you know we we tried to work really closely with our partners as well as the county in talking about summer and in talking about schedule and professional learning um and the county was also sort of getting hit by the getting hit with a lot of requests for increases in funding um and so I think um sort of aligning to our budget understanding our budget the impacts of our ask on the county budget um and also I think one of the things I I don't want to sort of I don't want to I don't want to glaze over the Investments to support services I think that from as a you know as a public service nerd and someone who thinks deeply about our social network and our safety net system and Multnomah County in the city of Portland um I think it's really important that we be aligned with the county and not um my recommendation is that we don't recreate service systems within PBS because what happens is that that takes away from the actual services so um you know one of the things that we you know Menorah talked about the resource Navigators and that was I really thought a missed opportunity for collaboration because what we were hearing that navigating the system was difficult PBS also invested really
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heavily in social workers who are trained to navigate the system so we basically had two sets of Navigators and what The Navigators were finding is that the services weren't available to be able to provide those families right so it's one thing to be able to navigate but it's another thing not to be able to Resource those services so when we think about like the investment to support services I think we do also need to um make sure that we're talking about um increasing the number of like you know what is the plan to increase the a number of mental health and Behavioral Health Providers so that we can refer to them what is the county you know how is the county thinking about the allocation of safety net services to serve families um so we we hear a lot about sort of like needs for rent assistance and for um you know families just to be able to you know who who hit one um one emergency um and so we really need to to think about you know sort of how how can we encourage the county to invest deeply in those safety net services so that our students needs are being met and then I think Service Coordination is is the big piece right like we want to make sure that we're not inadvertently recreating systems that the county has and so I think that's why we wanted to spend this time talking about like you know it's not just Sun after school but it really is a system of services and how do we how do we make sure that we're we're getting as many services uh and not creating uh lines of of people in between the students and services so Danny this is a really uh important point to me because uh you know when sun was created we had very few of those services within our school buildings and within our school days and and now we have quite a bit and we hope that we can you know continue to fund those in the coming years so we need to be we need to work much smarter about how to coordinate that with resources coming through our partners I think I'm really intrigued and interested by that challenge yeah I think uh oh sorry go ahead oh I was I so I think a good example of Service Coordination is um uh as a new title uh title 10 schools come online uh what's the plan to provide services for those so we had a school that came online as a new uh as a new title school but sun is not there and when we talked with the county they were not sure that that school would qualify under their sort of like methodology for citing Sun schools and we were kind of like what we we need alignment and Service Coordination there um you know to to be a title school is a pretty significant threshold um and so that Service Coordination and Alignment is really uh really important so I think um I think this the county will welcome the conversations about alignment and I think the question is is how do we sort of you know map out the resources to support that alignment um and I think that um you know having a a you know a a board of directors who are you know so uh committed to our you know our system and our partners is going to be really helpful I know that like the vast majority of our students from Multnomah County but we do have some that are Clackamas in Washington like how do we what is our relationship like with those counties and does the fact that we are in reality of multi-county District does that ever you know impact our relationship with Multnomah County I don't think you have any percent programming though in those slices do we Danny no I think I think we're the actual where the the tension actually rests is the um is the perception that PBS may not be the seat of where poverty or where all the needs are and because of the demographic shows shifts moving East and because of the way that the state school fund works and other districts are funded um I think there can be some tension there but the superintendent has done a really elegant job in working with his colleagues uh the sister superintendents within the county and meets regularly with the chair and I imagine he'll continue that with the other chair to sort of find like where are we finding those things in common um Clackamas County is a really different um and so uh they don't have the same level of sort of school-based relationships that we're really fortunate to have the census so there's an Exemplar across the country it's amazing if I may um you know I just
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want to be considered time um uh we have four agenda items uh but so we really want to get maybe to a little bit of an action step here uh that I heard you know I want to Channel or lift up uh what you you shared uh chair constant which is you know what can you use the board this committee do I think as an immediate Next Step you know we'll have Courtney wessling our director of government relation coordinate you know some uh some some meetings if you will with uh some of our County uh elected officials uh we'll we'll provide you the the the material and the support uh to to have a meaningful dialogue there if it's helpful uh and um and just to add to the context of of this when we were going around having conversations with electeds uh ahead of the budget process this this spring uh this conversation came up with uh uh who are now with two of the uh County Commissioners who are now vying for the the chairmanship and so uh so they are aware uh of the um of the need of our asks and so I think you know following that up from uh from elected to an elected I think would be a good good Next Step so if it makes sense with you chair uh we'll we can Courtney uh can coordinate uh some some some meetings and some next steps there yeah it's on my list it's been on my list yep that sounds good thank you Jonathan for just doing doing my job and moving the agenda along but yeah that sounds good and I've had some of those offline conversations as well and I would say uh there is a recognition in the uh within the county leadership at this time that that that we need to make some shifts all right Danny was there anything else for this presentation uh no uh thank you so much and uh Ben roeth and I are here to support um Olivia as well so if you if you need anything let us know yeah this is um Jonathan I appreciated you're saying this is really last night's board conversation was kind of a microcosm of just how important this relationship is to our students and families and I think in most places we've got it right but we do recognize that we have some gaps both Geographic and in services so we have a great opportunity to uh just make improvements this this time around so thank you thank you Danny that was really informative and um Courtney I will send it back to you yeah um so thank you God you guys for being here and I feel like I always learn a little something even though we've been talking about Sun for a long time so thank you for the great presentation um and yeah we will definitely be talking to whoever um whoever wins on November 8th and uh and getting those set up and letting them settle in a little bit but there's definitely gonna be a shift of the chair chairs level so we know there will be someone new with new staff um so it's a good opportunity honestly to reintroduce this this and our commitment to it and um and then double down on all these asks um so next on the agenda we're going to talk about our legislative agenda it's a draft at this point um and we want to kind of walk through sort of why we have certain things on it and um just open it up mostly for an informal discussion on you know what you want what you as a board wanted it to um communicate to our elected officials in Salem and what high-level priorities you want to double down on on paper right because this will be a public document that you approve um in the in December Amy and I talked about that this morning there's really no rush to getting this done by November especially with the election and that may drive some changes to the document so I'm going to kick it over to Lisa Merrick from the team to kind of walk through a few slides and just highlight some of the um the specific uh you know the topic areas that we want to focus on here and Courtney can I if I just want to add a little a little bit more context in in just a small I think what's important here to contextualize is that this is talking about our engagement and our relationship at the state level as we just talked about in the previous conversation we have local relationships that we want to you know and local strategies that we want to also engage in so but today's conversation is yes that's a good point sorry when we say legislative agenda we often think of Salem so I'm I will jump out of my um kind of bubble and just clarify that this next discussion is really specific to our State Legislative priorities um we are we realize that our document that is a draft at this point does include some local stuff so we're going to pull that off we'll we we originally were thinking big like let's have one big thing with all the things on it just
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to keep it simple and we realize it's not actually simpler so um so there will be some updates there but Lisa go ahead um before I jump into the priorities themselves I wanted to touch on a few key dates that are coming up um so November 16th there's going to be a revenue forecast these are um one this is one of quarterly presentations by the state economists on our state's projected Revenue collection um it's important to watch this which Courtney and I will do and report back um it's really helpful to know what where the state is projecting revenues to be and it's a this is like key data values in making State policy and budget decisions during the session and then December 7th through 9th our legislative committee days this is when the policy and budget committees need to hear informational presentations on important issues potential bills that will be coming through the session and then updates on Bill implementation that's happening now yeah and I would say um just to jump in on that December legislative days before the long session are always really interesting because that is when things are a little closer to being more than just conceptual when they have hearings and briefings that they're closer to being actual Concepts so it's a lot different than September or even last May when it's just a lot of big high level ideas now we're getting down to the details so it's interesting we'll be paying close attention to that and those are there's opportunities during legislative days to to Advocate as well not just paying attention but to participate we may and we're trying to get our heads around we haven't seen any schedules yet it's pretty early still but the conversations among chair um chairman and women about what kinds of topics they're going to dig into will be coming soon so we'll know a little bit more about what where it makes sense for us to advocate um and then one other thing really quick normally in the session in in the December um we usually see a Governor's budget come out in December before the long session we will not have that this year we have an election so the governor's budget will be coming out in February um because this is an election year and it just things look a little different than last time so normally we would have a little bit of a blueprint going into session we won't have that this time um so depending on who wins on November 8th um that person will work with the legislative fiscal office and others to develop their budget that gets used as the starting point for the budget discussion it's just a little later when it's a new a new governor so I don't want to miss that because that's a big piece because obviously one of the big things on our agenda every time is money money money money and then the next date is December 21st which is the pre-session bill filing deadline so earlier in um November or or sorry uh September late September legislators have the opportunity to request a bill from legislative Council so the the attorneys at the legislature are working on brightening bills they've requested um they've now they'll start beginning to send those back to legislators and then by December 21st they have to file those bills with the chief clerk's office at the legislature um so we'll we'll begin to see bills in the legislative informational system uh starting um in late December and early January there's also another set of deadlines um later in the session I think January to March where legislators can ask for bills to be written again um so we'll be watching those and we'll report back what those dates are as well and then January 17th is when the Oregon legislature session begins it's the Constitutional end date is supposed to be June 25th though it might end slightly earlier depending on if they're able to get through their workload or slightly later like a few years back when they went over and over and over so we don't like that we hope that doesn't happen they can usually get their work done in time but um they've been it's not unheard of to go late into the summer so traditionally ahead of the Oregon State legislative session the Portland Public School Board approves the district's legislative priorities or estate priorities this year we're aiming to get the board to approve the agenda by early to mid-December our team has put together a draft framework based on a lot of input from several stakeholders in the district across different topic areas and as a disclaimer it's not this document is not
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intended to be a full or exclusionary list of bills especially since we're still finding out about bills that are being filed and bills can still be filed during the session so these are categories we've put together that are grounded in the board's goals um that are meant to really be a filter through which we will determine What legislation we support we advocate for or oppose um during the 2023 session and one other quick note on that um we we are sometimes really enthusiastically supportive of something really like anti we don't like this this isn't good for kids and then we're neutral sometimes we're we're just kind of like yeah that's okay we feel like that would be fine but we're not going to waste a lot of Staff time or resources on it because it may be not that directly connected to our work so I just mentioned that because we often get asked can you take a position on this can you take a position on that and it's not always worth taking a strong position where we're writing testimony or um you know there's only so many hours in a day things move really fast we sometimes have to pick and choose where our resources and and time are best served so with that I will go ahead and talk about the framework itself um we sort of have put together this overarching narrative um just wanting the legislature to really meet this moment that we're in knowing that um the covid-19 crisis has um just exacerbated educational inequalities for all students especially our black and Native students students of color students from low-income homes students with disabilities English language Learners students experiencing homelessness students in the foster care system undocumented students this is one of the most critical points at which our state has to invest in education and sustain the funding that we've gotten in the last two years students have more mental health needs right now um we have just a lot more needs that students and families have at this time um and beyond that it's also the boards and the district's goals to eliminate unacceptable gaps in third grade reading eighth grade Readiness first grade math and high school graduation so that's how we've Courtney Courtney back to your point um about uh when we take an official stance on something and invest our our resources of time and energy um as far as the board weighing in Ailee I think that our board goals should be the litmus test for that yep yeah and we'll that thank you that's really helpful and I think you know so much happens so fast once things get rolling um in the session and what where we get tripped up sometimes is we need to know okay this is just this just Falls in line with our priorities and our um outline we're just gonna do it we can't always wait to be told yes and so we want kind of the permission to be able to do that based on where you know these categories and then there are going to be the times where like Amy Haley Gary we I need you to go talk to so and so because this is like at risk of not happening or they're the number they're attaching to it isn't adequate or whatever the issue maybe there's a million of them um we want to be able to to say hey we can set up this meeting can you make this time work yeah um or you know this person personally can you just call Maxine Dexter or whatever Courtney I think that is entirely the point of us um you know voting on and adopting a legislative agenda so that you have that set of established criteria that you know you can't you can act upon and you know there really aren't aren't likely to be very many situations that haven't been contemplated in our you know legislative agenda that we've already adopted sometimes maybe something might come up and in that case you know we can scramble and sort of seek guidance from from the gourd the board and leave leadership but otherwise you know I think you can assume that you can run on things that are directly um connected to what we've adopted as our agenda thank you for putting that on the record um and and uh chair constant if I may I think uh I just want to know I appreciate well I appreciate uh the you know the the litmus test of you know the the board goals or the board goals as a litmus test I also want to make sure that we give ourselves a little bit of a Ruger room for you know operational or
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you know other kind of uh legislative priorities that may come about I mean again not not saying that those should be our primary focus I think that's your point that our focus should be these goals uh but I just want to make sure that we're we're keeping open the the other opportunities that aren't you know somehow uh Under the Umbrella of what we have contemplated in our agenda or uh connected in some way to our goals what Courtney that's exactly what I was going to say there's always an angle to get to these to these items go ahead so we are legislative agenda like we just discussed is centered on the board goals um to eliminate unacceptable gaps in third grade reading fifth grade math High School graduation and eighth grade Readiness by investing in the education system through stable and Equitable funding addressing unfinished learning and increasing enrichment opportunities so can I say those aren't actually our board goals no we know these are the categories we've developed um oh so it will list out okay no you know the third grade reading fifth grade math High School graduation 8th grade Readiness are not our board goals fifth grade math like post-secondary Readiness because it has graduation but it's um instead of 8th grade Readiness it's actually High School Readiness so okay and the fifth grade we're looking to see if they're ready for high school right so it's not leaving us we'll we'll make sure sorry thank you yes um and then meeting child and student social emotional behavioral and mental health needs supporting a strong education Workforce improving School operations and buildings and cultivating safe classrooms and communities so I'll just go into it and I think you have the Gold's right on the of the slide yeah I'm sorry yes that's okay just wanna it helps yes we want to get it right obviously we can say it we can't always write it and we do say eighth grade Readiness from time to time because it is eighth grade and it's about readiness yeah she's ready to miss breakfast so yeah Haley We're not gonna get into modifiers here sorry um and based on those that legislative draft agenda we did go to The District student council um and they provided the following feedback to show um sort of which areas they supported and areas that they wanted to see included on the agenda so they did support um making sure that we're maintaining State funding and local funding and CTE and arts programs they support us strengthening and more alignment with the sun system with our PPS priorities um they would like to see having one mental health professional in every school they support addressing gun violence in our communities and there's support for strengthening infrastructure to make our schools more climate resilient um and outside of those things they support they have interest in removing barriers for parents to be Educators and work in schools they specifically people that maybe don't have credentials could get somehow um you know these non-traditional Pathways conversations that we're having with tspc and then interests in teacher trainings that can allow School staff to respond to hate speech and microaggressions um there's interest in advocating for funding to make sure all schools are ADA Compliant um they have interest in demonstrating that pps's climate policy makes this a climate leader sort of elevating our role in the climate Justice space interests in addressing the instrument shortage like in our school band instruments yeah okay um and they're interested in increasing culturally specific summer learning opportunities it was a really good conversation they had a lot of a lot to say a lot of a lot of interest obviously they don't maybe aren't I should say haven't read everything that we like they don't know that our bond includes first radio compliance those kinds of things but we try to share that and it was a short amount of time so but there's a lot okay we'll take more money from the state to do that totally totally no this is great and I'm really glad you guys took the time to have a deep conversation with DSC and um byronie and I have talked and I haven't had a chance to catch up with her to just kind of go get a little more depth from her perspective about this but this all looks really great yeah they're they're really awesome it was fun
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yeah and we'll plan to return with the group and talk about strategy and they're happy to be sort of um help help with our uh presence in Salem I would say they were a lot bigger very excited to provide testimony and share their stories I think students sitting in legislators offices is going to be the most effective lobbying weekend that's what we told them no question about that I want those kids from mlc to come right to Village that were there last night at giving testimonial board and we also told them you know the the way this session it's a little unclear what it's going to look like because there's um construction happening and who knows with variants knock on wood we're all over it but um so we'll we told them hey even if you can't be there we can make a meeting happen and that's the beauty of some of this the silver lining you can meet with your legislators probably more easily now yeah because it's a virtual meeting if it's virtual yeah together well with that we did want to jump into a discussion um and to hear from you if there's any questions ideas or Reflections that you'd like to share um I know that we did just present this document in the last week so you know we'll definitely want to keep working with you to get more input as you have time to review it and process that Haley I've had a chance to you know work with these guys and sort of the creation work with our team in the creation of this but I'm interested in in your feedback yeah I mean I think for me the the number one well the two the two things I think are most important is advocating for qem I mean another problem with qem but that that seems like a pretty like the state has said this is what we need for Quality education because they've created commissions yeah yeah you you say this is the amount of money we meet could you please give it to us and then I think the other thing that's really important with the budget is that you know our costs go up about four percent a year it like if we were just gonna have everything the same it's a four percent increase and I don't when I've talked to Rob Doss and Maxine Dexter and others it doesn't feel like they understand that that they they're like well we're giving you more money I'm like yes you're not giving us four percent more yeah and so you're actually funding us less than last year and that that seems to be like I don't know why and it goes back to that CSL conversation right it has been a thorn in our side for many years and I you know it's a big it's a big issue and a really um you know unfortunate discrepancy yeah that somehow isn't getting broken through like nobody's breaking through yeah um and I think we're gonna see that when we see the state school fund number come out right at some point so this one is huge to me and this is a conversation that's taking place on many many different levels it's one that is constantly discussed by our partners so with Cosa with osba with you know our our fellow uh Multnomah County districts through musd Jonathan I know you're in these conversations and there's definitely strength in numbers and there's political power in numbers so I know that um these conversations continue to occur but Courtney I agree it's kind of mystifying the degree to which it hasn't really landed with legislators including legislators who consider themselves real champions for K-12 public education so uh we just need to uh I mean Jonathan I would say we need to be really well armed with the facts from the finance side of our house about how how we describe current service level and what our real costs are so that it's irrefutable yeah and um it's it's really important like infographics I mean everything we can have to make it really clear because these legislatures you can hear it in the gubernatorial race right now you know they love to say like well we passed a corporate activities tax and we're sending so much more to our public schools and um and there's there's Rel rarely recognition of the increase in costs and also coming out of covet I mean we have a good story to tell relative to costs in terms of all of our labor agreements that we just resolved and we hear from democratic legislators legislators that they don't understand very well um you know what we're trying to say about current service level and it's like well well we just renegotiated all of our contracts and and look where we are in terms of our labor costs our single biggest costs so um to me this is this is all hands on on Deck we need to keep pushing this conversation at every level and through every channel that we can and it would be good to share information about what's going on in those other you know
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conversations and places yeah I appreciate I appreciate that chair and you know I just will uh to to know in in agreement and and hear your your requests um as we think about how we're gonna you know communicate and what what is the collateral you know I will know you know and really excited about the partnership and relationship we have with ERS that is helping us you know look through our our financial uh Outlook if you will and you know what you'll learn in a few weeks uh as you know as we're preparing for our presentation you know I'll give you a sneak preview here and just to show you the types of things that I think we can we as PPS can talk about uh so together you know just again a little insight here but together PPS is differentiating Staffing ratios and Equity formula directly a directs approximately 40 percent more staff to higher needs schools and students that is you know again that's just a it's the type of information that we're currently Gathering uh in our analysis that we'll share in a few weeks with you and and it is that type of information that I think will be critical for Courtney and Lisa as our uh Chief lobbyists uh in Salem to um to to use so I just want to note that I hadn't heard that characterized that way you can see it when you look at the perfect per student funding by school but I hadn't heard that statistic like that Jonathan that's pretty compelling um Amy you talked a little bit about our labor partners and those agreements that we've just finished I think one one thing which may not come up in this legislative session but it's kind of on my radar is about our um and I don't know how this all dovetails but the state mediation office and I know that we've had some um employment issues go to mediation and I think um I think I guess those were public people would be shocked um so so how do we have conversations about um yeah I don't even know if that's legislative but the I don't I mean I don't know of any any lever of influence that we potentially have there other than our contract changing but um so I won't say anything more it's interesting I I definitely do think that um I have a high school senior and I think gun violence is something that keeps her up at night um and I think that that is huge high priority for our students and I think anything that we can do to reduce access to guns to increase training to help support Mental Health um I mean the the incident that just happened in St Louis the The Narrative is that he he felt isolated a loner and so how do we help again with um yeah all of that stuff our successful School sir so anything that can help us yeah with that piece of how do we care for our young people right and I think it's also it's I don't know that Danny's still here because I think a lot of this is also our violence prevention work and connecting with the city and county on network it's at a high level this ballot measuring which you guys haven't hadn't had a chance and probably won't have a chance to take a position on I know where you would stand right um it's pulling very well so that will be interesting yeah see what happens there because that's definitely going to be helpful I think it's also examining ways that we can um look at even just our um I was just having this conversation with commissioner hardesty's office around lighting at schools yeah um like lighting is a huge built environment issue that that we can get as a way to you know and it's dark and the lights are way up here you know can we bring them down things like that that are just they seem small sometimes those things can't be changed quickly but you know they were really open to like at Jefferson can we bring those down so I think all these it's not just one solution it's a lot of things put pulled together and talked about in the same space and so I appreciate you bringing that up because I think there's a lot that can happen at the state level but there's a lot more I think that can happen yeah but I think I mean I think the you know philosophy of elevating our board goals as like how does everything fit into that um and then I think but I think to you know both of your points everything can be connected back to that because if our kids aren't feeling safe if they're not getting fed if they're uh you know name they're gonna survive till graduation then then there's a reason that they might be hiding that or reading or whatever so um yeah there's we can make a connection to all of them yeah foreign and then I think we added just election considerations here um obviously we have an election coming up in a little over a month and we are a little over a month oh my God I wish one more time but um in
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a couple weeks so we'll know more about you know who is our governor what are their priorities um what is the legislative landscape look like we have a lot of new legislators coming which is also a great opportunity for us to introduce ourselves um as a district and as board members with all of our new elected officials um we also have like a really great um set of coming of returning legislators that represent Portland and they're great wonderful people that generally support us which we're lucky to have and um so but we can deepen those relationships and it's one of our goals is to deepen and maintain those relationships and and make sure that to your point again they fully understand that we aren't funded we're funded by a program not by like if our enrollment drops we you know there's a lot of folks out there that think well your enrollment drop is dropping you don't need as much money and that's not how this works and so continuing to educate them about how school funding Works about how school districts spend money I love that stat that Jonathan threw out because I think that's the kind of thing that matters to people they want to hear the specifics about how we're spending our money at the places that need it the most um so those are the kinds of those are like little nuggets that are really helpful for us but us being Lisa and I but also us as a district to share and continue to share with our with our elected officials this is good I'd like to move this along because we still have two more items so um I will uh make sure that uh Haley all of our other board colleagues uh take a look at the materials that have been posted today and pass along any feedback and um we uh we actually don't have another meeting of this committee scheduled before we'll be taking it to the board right Courtney correct so unless there's something that is dramatically shifts between now and the beginning of December either in terms of you know not to cut you off sorry chair um we do have a November 16th igc meeting sorry good um you can talk about it offline but I had forgotten that it was the week before Thanksgiving not canceled okay so we could okay okay so then we'll we'll we'll have an opportunity to discuss any fine tune and integrate any feedback that we get uh before then so thank you very much do you want me to roll right into the right to return update I I do well okay and I see director Hollins is here as a participant um and I know he's been interested in this so I'll just um kind of go quickly in Kate's here in case I miss anything but um in September late September middle September we took um we went to the Super the mesd superintendent's meeting and just shared with them our interest in more formalizing our right to return um interdistrict transfer process we um you know historically we've been doing this kind of it's kind of been a handshake agreement or at least not very formal with other districts around the area to allow for students who have been pushed into other districts because of a displacement housing crisis Etc to allow those students to come back in to PPS schools as long as there's room in those schools and come back and attend and um one particular example that Judy shared was a mom who um whose daughter who had gone to Vernon and their family had moved out to David Douglas School District they got a house through the pcri program and she really wanted her daughter to go to Vernon so she was able to through this process and it was just a really nice anecdote and story to share you know how important it is for families and communities to have that history and shared Legacy in some of these schools um so I just share that on the side but more formally we're working through we're working with other districts to get their feedback on a proposed MOA mou um they have until November 1st to give us feedback um so that we can tweak any language and then our hope is to bring a resolution to the board by the end of the year maybe in January actually I think we talked about January um uh to just kind of have you all have that opportunity to more formally approve this process um and I think I've said double down a lot today but double down on the commitment to um allowing for our families to come back and then the other piece that um is important to know we've also talked to the Portland Housing bureau about how they work their process um for their um Danny remind me of the name of the program uh it's uh North and North and Northeast um housing strategy or something yeah something like that to look it up um so we're we're modeling that um what that looks like how do we prove how do people prove that they used to live here we're modeling our process on their process so that we have something to kind of anchor it to um so that they've been helpful in
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sharing their experience and background of their program with us um and I think that's mostly it Judy would have liked to be here she's on vacation so if there are other questions that come up we'll make sure to get back to you but um but it's a I think a good thing that doesn't seem like a lot of pushback the one thing that came up in the superintendent's meeting was just around enrollment right because when you move a kid if you move a kid back into PPS then of course that District loses that funding but we're also um it's not a huge amount of kids so we think that that's um that most of the districts have been okay Courtney the only thing that I would be looking for in the language is um you know right now we have a lot of families who come back to our schools without any formal type of enrollment release if there's just a recognition that they were gentrified out of their historic neighborhoods they show an interest in returning to these schools and they are allowed to do so so the one thing I would be looking for is um that by codifying things and by actually adopting these policies we're not going to create language that in any way makes it more difficult than the informal process that we have now does that make sense yeah we we agree and I don't think yeah yeah and we've we've talked about that extensively with Judy and she's talked to some of her colleagues in other districts we're allowing people to self-certify so if someone comes to us and says I used to live in this neighborhood essentially we're going to take them at their word which is the same process we use now uh we're also going to offer if someone has gone through the city of Portland program and qualify through that program that they could automatically tell us and share that knowledge and then that would automatically put them in um so we're certainly aware of not making it harder and again the idea is to replace you know because now you also have to get your release document signed by the other district and that occasionally is where the holdup is not you know maliciously but you know we're timing right or the timing isn't you know is off or families have difficulty navigating you know with two different districts what they're supposed to do and all those things so we've been very conscious and Judy has been excellent in sort of figuring out how we're going to make this as easy as possible uh for the families so that is all over the the process that we've come up with I think you'd see that in the documents okay Haley do you have any questions here I don't no I think this is really great and I was gonna just raise one other connection Point um we've also looped in Camille um because this obviously has will um impact or is connected to the various work streams around Jefferson modernization tub and relocation and the site for black student Excellence so we are trying to thread that needle and make sure all the appropriate stamps happening so that we can also communicate this out to families because while we don't think there's a large number that will take advantage of this we think there's probably some that may that don't know that it's an opportunity so we want to make sure that folks know that this is a possibility for them this is a huge issue in our Jefferson Master planning process right now because the question is who are we building this school for you know people talk about Oregon's largest historically black high school well it's not anymore and it's getting less and less so every year so what are our levers this is one lever what are our other lovers to see through Partnerships you know what we can do if we really wanna try to Rectify repair rebuild that Legacy in that neighborhood Jonathan you want to uh move us on to this next item around the Cully Tiff yeah happy to um maybe I maybe you can provide Direction in terms of uh what you'd like to cover I can provide just a public more General overview similar to what we I did in an email if that's helpful so since we're just our we Committee of two um Haley you've seen that email director Hollins you're on here too and um you obviously are well familiar with this issue so Jonathan if you could just highlight what are the impacts to PPS from this proposal and um what are the potential benefits for our students sure uh thank you so so maybe just for the public the folks that are maybe viewing here um the Coley Tiff is uh Tiff stands for the tax increment increment financing it's a proposal uh so um
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Jonathan also we don't have any posted materials about this correct yeah so okay correct so uh so uh the city of Portland is considering developing a a tax increment financing District in the cooling neighborhood a tiff is a state authorized Redevelopment and finance program that helps communities improve and redevelops uh physically deteriorating areas suffering from economic stagnation unsafe or poorly planned environments uh and so uh so there's active conversations at the city level to establish these these are not uh these are very normal in the city of Portland there are many across the city um urban renewal districts correct uh instant in terms so so just providing that in terms of context so again the the city council is is considering it and scheduled to vote on it in a here in the next next month in the month of November uh in terms of the impact to Portland Public Schools again um all our our our properties uh uh are included in many uh Tiff districts across the city of Portland uh as a taxing Authority the plan has proposed would divert property tax dollars from our schools to uh in the neighborhood to support the colleague Tiff uh and so particularly um uh as I mentioned uh Prosper Portland who manages these tiffs uh currently manages 11 tiffs some of these tips will expire and so those tax dollars will return back to PPS so if you if you think about uh uh the Tiff you know there are multiple tiffs uh the the dollars that get impacted are the dollars coming uh from the state school fund so what gets Frozen and diverted to the the Tiff is the state school fund it does not impact the local a local option Levy nor the school bonds uh and so in terms of uh so that's that's the impact on us as a taxing Authority uh uh just because I'm not clear because that was uh kind of a different way of excuse me one second you go ahead um well and I think to clarify I think when when I say diver you know resources uh these are diverting resources to improve and Revitalize Community uh through a number of means commercial retail residential streets mass transit Parks so I I want to be very clear that this is ultimately about making sure that the community is thriving and we have thriving communities across the city of Portland um and so as Lance stewards um PPS is Steward to three properties within the proposed boundary wrigler Sacagawea Early Education Center and the Whitaker Adams site inclusion in a tiff District allows PPS so this is one of the benefits and other property owners to request access to tax increments um resources for Capital development that aligns with the goals of the Tiff District plan and subsequent five-year action plans and I want to be clear although Tiff dollars can't be used for educational purposes previous creative Partnerships have focused on portions of educational facilities that are are widely accessible so as an example the Jefferson High School Frontage uh is is one uh again and you will notice that Whitaker Adams site is a labeled as a blight designation in the report uh blight designation is a state definition that means that underdeveloped underutilized site it does not mean uh that there are and and we were assured by the executive director of Prosper Portland that neither Prosper Portland nor the Portland Housing bureau has any plans for the site as you all know we have a long-range facilities plan uh with plans with uh projected plans there so I'll stop there chair um I don't know uh if that's a comprehensive review I think I appreciate again the opportunity to provide this this in the in the public sphere so just a quick overview of the timeline for this uh adoption process for the tech yeah great question uh Courtney I I believe so the so right now it is uh in in review uh in the community so it's it's open for Community engagement Community voice uh so we've you know
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we've provided uh feedback um uh as a school district uh my understanding is the city of the city council is scheduled to vote on it uh in this uh in the second or third week of November November 9th thank you very much uh so November 9th um and I think that's the major milestone so we will continue to monitor uh this and obviously any any other tips as I mentioned tiffs you know come online come offline and I think it'll be good to have a a an update of where where these are and when they expire so so the board has an understanding of of the the moving Target that would be good and when you said that they just go to the state school fund so since we have our Equalization in place Statewide does that mean that the uh impact of a reduced revenue from our area gets uh significantly diluted across the state so it's really going to be a relatively small a shared sacrifice correct thank you again Amy you're muted sorry uh Courtney had one last thing you wanted to close us with yeah I have two things one is we put it on the agenda just to have an opportunity to mention and I know Roseanne sent out an email but on December 15th the um we're going to be organizing a board legislative dinner um with likely one or two board members is the idea or I'm sorry any board members invited to that prior to that we're going to do an organizational meeting where one or two members could come on behalf of the district to share priorities things like that so just know that that's probably already on your calendar but December 15th is the dinner details to follow and we'll be working with Andrew to determine who should go to the planning meeting so the point is to have a sort of unified agenda to take to Salem from the metropolitan area yep yep all right then my last thing because I totally forgot what we were talking about the legislative agenda and we moved we're moving through things fast because there's only so many hours in the day um Danny has been um talking with Lisa and I about uh a fix uh that we might be pursuing in Salem and related to bias incidents and I just want to kick the floor over to her and I'm sorry that I didn't do this earlier I know we talked about talking about it so um go for it yeah so so really quickly um so uh one of the things that our team does is that we track all of the bias incidents that happen at the at this at the district and so there have been an uptick since the Trump Administration in these sort of like um different sort of things this year we had three incidents in southwest Portland uh and just uh less than two weeks so um one of the things that we've encountered is that um when we have an anonymous Act of hate is that in terms of law enforcement uh they've sort of said that their ability to um sort of like investigate this as anything beyond um kind of like a like a vandalism an act of vandalism is that the legislation requires there to be like a a sort of detailed victim so we've had uh unfortunately we've had incidents where there has been um a noose outside of a school where there's been a black principle um and it's very clear that there was an intended victim it was very clear that uh you know a horrible Act of hate speech but the police have said that they were unable to investigate that as a hate speech because the the victim wasn't uh sort of like made clear so um what we have done with the help of his name wasn't on the news is that yeah I mean I think that's the the issue so so what we've done is that we've worked with the office of equity and human rights with commissioner Rubio's office over at this at the city to try to think about how could the district work with the city to sort of think about like ways to change this legislation so there's language so we have a draft concept out there that we're working um uh Kate uh and Mary were really helpful in reviewing that language and giving us some suggestions and then I think um under some advice from legislator we we're gonna also try to think about like from the the sort of like D.A and sort of Department of Justice side of you know what what are some suggestions so we do want to try to be as collaborative as possible but also um something has has to change I think um we've got a lot of interest particularly from one school Community
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where parents are sort of like what do we need to do to to change us the the remedies uh on the Justice side are not acceptable to our to our community so um we're trying to work on this thank you thank you thank you Danny and sorry Ayla did I interrupt you no I was just saying thank you Danny for doing that work same thing you were yeah thank you and keep us posted and also this is a great issue for students to be engaged on because our students have been harmed and are harmed by these incidents I still can't get over the can't investigate it because when investigating it revealed who the intended victim was I'm just I'm struggling okay well and until you investigate how do you know that it's not an individual right right that's a good point okay anyway okay everybody thank you so much for your time and your work and um we'll see you in November see ya thank you bye all right


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