2022-04-19 PPS School Board Regular Meeting
District | Portland Public Schools |
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Date | 2022-04-19 |
Time | 18:30:00 |
Venue | BESC Auditorium |
Meeting Type | regular |
Directors Present | missing |
Documents / Media
Notices/Agendas
Materials
2022 04 12 Head Start Policy Committee Meeting Materials (98f45c26fdd1a4d8).pdf 2022_04_12 Head Start Policy Committee Meeting Materials
Resolution 6478 Professional Educator & Administrator 2021-2022 (74d437ba01302792).pdf Resolution 6478_ Professional Educator & Administrator 2021-2022
Service Awards Board Book 2021-2022 Administrators (8d661947a75ed37c).pdf Service Awards Board Book 2021-2022_Administrators
Service Awards Board Book 2021-2022 Educators (88c84affc917abcc).pdf Service Awards Board Book 2021-2022_Educators
Resolution 6479 - Adoption of the Index to the Minutes - as proposed (22e69962c0463df7).pdf Resolution 6479 - Adoption of the Index to the Minutes - as proposed
2022 03 15 Index to the minutes draft for adoption (d76d925f1e3ee44d).pdf 2022_03_15_Index to the minutes _ draft for adoption
2022 04 05 index to the minutes Draft for approval (54b6d803c4315922).pdf 2022_04_05_index to the minutes_Draft for approval
Resolution 6480 - Expenditure Contracts - As proposed (770f61fe7888480e).pdf Resolution 6480 - Expenditure Contracts - As proposed
Resolution 6481 Revenue Contracts (361aea4a9908b44d).pdf Resolution 6481 Revenue Contracts
Resolution 6482 - authorize off campus activities (e6dcc8fb91520f4b).pdf Resolution 6482 - authorize off campus activities
Resolution 6483 - Appointment to the Portland Custodial Civil Service (3ba8350e0d2d45c6).pdf Resolution 6483 - Appointment to the Portland Custodial Civil Service
Appointment to the Portland Custodial Civil Service Board Memo (4f9a193ceed96658).pdf Appointment to the Portland Custodial Civil Service Board Memo
Resolution 6484 - Interdistrict Transfers - as proposed (5da0131a625d886d).pdf Resolution 6484 - Interdistrict Transfers - as proposed
22-23 IDT Staff information report (acd1b2de3efb1cce).pdf 22-23 IDT Staff information report
Resolution 6485 - Amend CBRC Report Date - as proposed (9d16d70036eec0df).pdf Resolution 6485 - Amend CBRC Report Date - as proposed
Amended 2022-23 Budget Calendar April2022.docx (68f7a1e125b25f60).pdf Amended_2022-23 Budget Calendar_April2022.docx
Resolution 6488 - Joint PPS PPR Athletic facilities agreement - As proposed (3374da350fdc284d).pdf Resolution 6488 - Joint PPS PPR Athletic facilities agreement - As proposed
Staff Report 2022 Athletic Facilities Agreement with PP R (50d468bd8f8ab16f).pdf Staff Report_2022 Athletic Facilities Agreement with PP_R
Ex A- Baseline Use (Final Draft) (38d8576c5bcfade2).pdf Ex A- Baseline Use (Final Draft)
Parks Agreement - BOE PRESENTATION April (2e6956e0714cfcad).pdf Parks Agreement - BOE PRESENTATION April
Resolution 6487 - 2022-23 School District Calendar - as proposed (ef4e98e029cca951).pdf Resolution 6487 - 2022-23 School District Calendar - as proposed
PPS Calendar 2022-23 (0bc8374a5f1f259b).pdf PPS Calendar 2022-23
2022-23 School District Calendar Board Memo (bbb2233613394281).pdf 2022-23 School District Calendar Board Memo
Resolution to Recognize Juneteenth as a Paid Holiday for Non-Represented Employees (1) (cb2417c48f9ca6b2).pdf Resolution to Recognize Juneteenth as a Paid Holiday for Non-Represented Employees (1)
Minutes
Transcripts
Event 1: 4/19/22 Board of Education Regular Meeting
00h 00m 00s
education for april 19th 2022 is called
to order
for tonight's meeting any item will be
that will be voted on has been posted on
the pps website under the board and
meetings tabs
this meeting is being streamed live on
pps tv services website and on channel
28
and will be replayed throughout the next
two weeks
please check the district website for
replay times
good evening it's nice to see everyone
tonight
the superintendent has let the board
leadership know that he's out sick and
therefore won't be joining us this
evening
subbing in for him tonight is deputy
superintendent claire hurts thank you
for being here
and i can see that we have a full house
tonight the portland public schools
board of education values public input
in making important decisions that
affect portland's children
we also believe in the right of
community members to observe and
participate in board meetings
and we also want to carry out the work
in front of us
to ensure that both the public has an
opportunity to attend
school board meetings and ensure that
the board can conduct the important
business of the district i want to
remind everyone here of some basic rules
of conduct which i
expect that we will all follow
we ask that all members of the public
attending this meeting tonight treat
each other staff and the board with
respect
and that's the expectation that we have
and and that i have
as adults we are models to our young
people and we want to model civic
engagement
and um
and
you know
good discourse
individuals here are encouraged and even
strongly urged to engage in conduct that
allows the ability of other individuals
here and virtually to watch
the board meetings and does not infringe
on the ability of other members of the
public
to offer comment to the board or that
interferes with the ability of the board
to conduct its business
and i want to repeat that again but i
the basic just as to to just
be conscious of each other be mindful of
each other and be graceful with each
other
those wishing to display play cards
signs and our banners must remain in the
auditorium foyer be behind the seating
area and may not block any attendees
view of the proceedings
and also please be mindful of keeping
the eye the walkways clear and the
aisles clear in general we would
appreciate if you can just be mindful of
others in the room the words that you
use and be aware of who's watching and
including our community's children
i'm speaking for myself i value input
from all of our community members and i
also have a high tolerance for conflict
but it's important that we collectively
create a space in which the board can
conduct our business and we can hear
from those who wish to be heard
i wrote that myself
i'm gonna um if you'll bear with me for
just a moment while i'm signing in
the first thing we have tonight is a
resolution to recognize teacher and
administrator appreciation week
um i can't think of a better way to
start off the evening tonight than to
recognize our amazing educators and
school administrators
deputy superintendent hertz would you
like to introduce this item please
certainly would thank you chair to pass
teacher and school administrator
appreciation week is a favorite for many
as it is a tradition for students and
families to recognize their educators
and their lives that make such a
difference
i'd like to invite
chief human resource officer sharon
reese up who will say some more about
this year's resolution
thank you deputy superintendent hertz
and good evening directors and student
representative weinberg it's my pleasure
to bring this resolution forward this
evening
it's been a tough couple of years kobe
keeps throwing punches and our teachers
and our administrators keep getting back
up
again and again they keep showing up for
kids day after day month after month
i'm pleased the board is recognizing and
appreciating these heroes tonight and
during teacher administrator
appreciation week of may 2nd
covet and current conditions remind us
that there's no entity with bigger
impact in a community than its public
education system its school district
our political
social economic systems rely on the
education of our citizens
within that public education system it
is our teachers and our administrators
who have the biggest influence on
students and student achievement
we have high hopes and high expectations
for our students
our vision says a graduate of portland
public schools will be a compassionate
critical thinker
00h 05m 00s
able to collaborate and solve problems
and be prepared to lead a more socially
just world
that's a tall order and it's becoming a
taller order all the time
in a time of increasing social division
where social media is designed to and
does an excellent job of spreading
massive misinformation
fomenting outrage and hate
dehumanizing
and disconnecting us
it is our teachers and our
administrators who can and do every day
strive to create the conditions where
learning can thrive
did you know that researchers are
documenting a shift in college-age
students a decreasing ability
and capacity for empathy
and an increasing ability and tendency
towards narcissism
yet empathy and connection are the
necessary conditions for dismantling
racism
it is our teachers and our
administrators who are on the front
lines of teaching our students civil
discourse
of modeling and teaching
empathy
of creating connections
it is our teachers and our
administrators who are on the front
lines of creating places where everyone
belongs even when they disagree
and are on the front lines of building
relationships engaging constructively
and empathetically
so that our students can exceed our warm
demand
to be a compassionate
critical thinker able to collaborate and
solve problems
and be prepared to lead a more socially
just world
let me share oops i just had a let me
bring up three quotes
the voices of three teachers who were
asked why do they teach
first teacher said i firmly believe that
my fundamental job as a special educator
is not simply to help students navigate
their school career or prepare for
post-secondary outcomes but to help them
claim and reclaim their lives
this charge serves as my humbling call
to action each day
teacher two
i dream to see my students soar to their
greatest potential
teacher three
i love when each student walks in and
sees me and my smile and can relax
feel comfortable and have a stable
environment
it is an amazing feeling when they smile
and tell me about their future goals and
new adventures
i love being their biggest cheerleader
and will always help them achieve
whatever goal they set
directors education is our antidote to
it ails us as a community
and our teacher nurse and our
administrators are the providers of the
attitude
thank you for your attention
tonight thank you that was very moving
um
thank you sharon um do i have a motion
now in a second to adopt resolution 6478
resolution to recognize teacher and
administrator appreciation week so moved
okay
director brim edwards moves director
scott seconds the adoption of resolution
6478 and is there any board discussion i
i know one of the teachers that's
getting there 35 years this year and um
i was talking to a friend about her the
other day and miss frisbie and the
friend was doing a clay project in the
classroom and walked in and she said
miss frisbee didn't even really need me
there she just knows how to work with
her students she's such an expert
handles all sorts of things and it's
amazing to see you know those seasoned
veteran educators who have given so much
to so many students um and especially as
parent volunteers to learn from them
when we're working with our own kids or
volunteering in classrooms and so just
really want to honor the so many years
that teachers have given
and our administrators
thank you i also want to remember my
grandmother who was a teacher
certified teacher she was certified to
teach negros
and the photograph i have of her is of
her second year students some of whom
are 16 and 17 years old
that was the they weren't able to go to
school until they were teenagers and so
she had them in their second year of
learning how to read
and some of them are taller than her so
um you know we've come we've come a long
ways i just want to recognize her and
then my mother and father are both
educators as well so
i have a deep appreciation for the for
the practice and and the profession
um i just wanted to note um since i
print out our board books still um
um just as i scroll through it we have
pages and pages
i know but as as i scrolled through it
and i printed it out we have just i look
at the
just a number of
the experience we have in this district
how fortunate we are you know just stop
starting with you know chris webber
who's been um with pps for 40 years
pretty amazing um
so it was mainly the length of the list
00h 10m 00s
that made me think about
just the depth of experience we have in
pps and how lucky we are looking through
it i see
you know teachers who over the years
taught my my kids my friends kids are
taught in neighborhood schools and also
administrators who have been in schools
all over the district so um just really
appreciate
uh the the tenure and what um because
you know our people
it's what makes our district um
so appreciation to
all the teachers administrators and the
years of service
thank you and i did not um print this
out but i think we might consider a
practice moving forward of naming the
people that have been here
35 and 40 years they've given their
entire careers to this district and
should be recognized by name
also notice that we have kurt to curtis
nelson uh curtis wilson so um
curtis wilson is going to last for a
long time here they're brothers
yes that's right they're brothers yes
they are i've forgotten that they're
both principals yes they are yeah
it is not a typo so thank you um
that was our board discussion i said was
miss bradshaw is there any public
comment on that item
there is these have elizabeth teal
oh um okay and hi um miss teal um
student representative weinberg
yeah i just wanted to also extend um
recognition to all the teachers
especially both my parents one who works
for pbs
and they've both taught for a combined
of over i believe 45 years
and my mom has actually taught for over
25 years
in intensive skills
so i see that every day
coming back from um
teaching middle school which in itself
is a challenge but also
teaching kids with special needs the
additional challenge the
amount of iep meetings
dealing with parents
unfortunately that is part of the job
and i just see how
how much work how much energy is being
sapped
by
the school district that's just taking
so much
from some of these teachers who have
been here for so long
so my appreciation goes out to them
thank you
we can clap for that thank you
hello um good evening chair to pass vice
chair scott student rep weinberg deputy
superintendent hertz
and the members of the board and thank
you for taking this time this evening to
reflect on and appreciate the incredible
value of our professional educators in
portland public schools
and thank you chief reese for your
remarks as well
as a pps parent myself i could not be
more appreciative of the educators at
vernon and mcdaniel who have deeply
impacted my own children teaching them
not just knowledge and skills but also
how to be in a community
how to create positive change
how to pursue what you love embrace what
makes you unique and support others to
do the same
i want to thank every teacher that has
touched my own kids lives
but as president of the portland
association of teachers i have the
incredible honor of representing more
than 4 000 of some of the most dedicated
and community-minded workers in our
society
every educator i know chose this
profession because of a profound belief
in the promise of our youth
a passion for learning
and a desire to actively build a more
just and equitable society
this passion and commitment shows up
every single day in every school in
countless interactions with students
and as you know these last two years
have been particularly and incredibly
challenging
for educators in the last two years
educators have redesigned their
practices over and over again
and have been there at every step to
support students facing new levels of
struggle and challenge
despite the uncertainty in our society
educators do more than seems possible to
make a stable joyful responsive and
productive day for every student that
comes through their door
in this year even educators with 10
20 30
40 years of experience
all have met challenges beyond what they
have ever seen
i think we all agree that what schools
provided before
is not adequate to meet the needs of
today
knowing that teachers across the
district ask themselves every day
what do these students need now
what is most important
how can i provide it for them
just so as a district we need to ask
what do our students need now and what
do educators need to provide it for them
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as we reflect on the value of our
professional educators please know that
the things that educators need to feel
appreciated
are the same things that inspired us to
become educators in the first place
first educators want the teaching and
learning conditions that honor the role
that public schools play in our society
and in our students lives which chief
reece so eloquently spoke of
this includes clean and safe school
buildings and classrooms and thank you
to our custodians we need more of them
and we need to pay them a fair wage
and this includes supports for our
students in the building including whole
child enrichments and more special
education than ell staff
[Applause]
educators
number two educators want to be provided
the tools we need to meet the needs of
our students and that includes time in
the workday to plan and collaborate and
communicate with families
and class sizes and case loads small
enough that allow us to give each
student the attention they deserve
and finally and most simply educators
ask to be treated as the professionals
we are and listened to
and i want to appreciate all of you for
your commitment to appreciating honoring
and listening to educators all year long
thank you for the time this evening
thank you too
thanks for your comments
the board will now vote on resolution
6478
resolution to recognize teacher and
administrator appreciation week of may
2nd so a little early
week of may 2nd all in favor please
indicate by saying yes
yes yes
all opposed please indicate by saying no
are there any abstentions
resolution 6478 is approved by a vote of
7-0 with student representative weinberg
voting yes
the board will now vote on the consent
agenda board members if there are any
items
you'd like to pull for discussion we'll
set those aside for discussion and vote
at the end of the meeting
um and ms bradshaw are there any changes
to the consent agenda no
and director scott yeah i'd like to pull
resolution 6484 on inner district
transfers for discussion at the end of
the meeting
just a question on that about moving it
to the back of the meeting were the
individuals who wanted to comment where
are they commenting because
if if they're they're ready now maybe we
should move it to the end of the meeting
we can take a testimony
yes we can take their can we'll take the
testimony now and then we'll move the
any questions for staff to the end of
the meeting
okay
um thank you for accommodating also um
i have a question
about
the
education resource strategies um
and i can ask it at the end and i
apologize i thought it was a question
for dr proctor it's actually a question
for deputy superintendent claire hurt so
i can wait till it's for um chief
delgadillo
okay okay so um
anyway i can wait until the end um and i
apologize that i it's just
getting the heads up to the wrong person
oh it's the one it's the under
expenditure contracts and it would be
education resource strategies
okay so we'll
we'll pull that for discussion as well
um
aside from um pulling six 6484 until the
end of the meeting and then i guess
pulling the individual
item
under the expenditure contracts um we'll
go ahead and vote on the consent agenda
with those changes
um board members
um
let's see mrs branch other there are no
are are there comments we do have two
people sign up for public comment
excellent so we'll go ahead and um take
their testimony now okay they're both
here virtually and i'm going to move
them over right now
we'll start with sarah
beagle
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ms beagle
hi yes can you hear me we can hear you
thank you
great
um you know thank you for for
00h 20m 00s
having me give public comment today i
definitely appreciate the opportunity
and we have sent some emails to the
board members and so it sounds as though
you've received those so
i'm probably going to read some of it
and then
maybe address a couple things
and definitely appreciate your time here
today so you know we are writing and we
were speaking today regarding the
standard inter-district transfer process
for the upcoming school year and we have
two requests
my husband and i of course responded
with you and miss judy brennan over the
past couple of months regarding this
issue and we also had the opportunity to
talk with our zone representative vice
chair scott last week
and we're grateful for everyone's time
thus far
we do would like to consider the
following as our public comment
we reviewed the report titled 2022-23
standard inner district transfers which
was released to the public on friday
april 15th on the website
in that report there is language that
states
as general transfers are not allowed
between pps schools without a hardship
reason or to access specialized
programming general transfers out of pbs
would not be aligned with district
transfer priorities
therefore staff has not included a
general release category in the 2022-23
recommendation
to us this rationale falls flat we
assume that the enrollment and transfer
staff are referring to general transfers
among pps schools
i.e within district as not being allowed
however general transfers into pbs are
allowed for up to 100 students without a
hardship reason or access to specialized
programming to say that having a
parallel priority category of general
transfers out of pps is not aligned with
district transfer priorities is
disingenuous
again if pps is allowing up to 100
general transfers in the pps schools
then they should be allowing up to 100
general transfers out of pps schools
in addition the general transfers into
pps are a direct result of neighboring
districts providing for general
transfers out of their districts
again we have received no real
transparent rationale for why a general
transfer category out of pps is not
being proposed
request number one
we are requesting that the board add a
general transfer category for transfer
out of pps for up to 100 students to be
in alignment with the general transfer
category for transfer in to pbs for the
upcoming school year
second we know that this report was
prepared by the director of enrollment
and transfer miss judy brennan as well
as the deputy superintendent claire
hurts
superintendent guerrero has concurred
with the staff's recommendations for the
standard inner district transfer
procedures for the upcoming school year
these recommendations are being proposed
to you for your review and vote
we appreciate the effort in the analysis
being presented in the report and we
recognize that it is a lift for the
staff to prepare this information for
you on an annual basis
if you look at the procedures
recommended by the administration we
would like to state that we are actually
in support of the procedures listed as
number four and number five in the
report on the first page
these are the same procedures are
captured again in the table above
superintendent guerrero's signature
what they state are students enrolled in
a different district to move to a pps
address in which to remain in their
current district
and siblings of students enrolled in the
requested district in 2021-22 who will
remain enrolled in 2022-23
both of those categories could be
released
ms beagle however we don't miss beagle
yeah i'm sorry to interrupt
um we allow everyone to testify for
three minutes and i don't know if you
heard the signal go off a few seconds
ago
so we we do have oh no
we yeah it's it's it's not a problem um
we we do have your written uh testimony
and um if you have additional thoughts
you're welcome to submit them as well
okay i do have two sentences of his word
saying uh i just want to point out that
may 19 2016
the language in there is what is in the
report that is language from the oregon
department of education and i will
forward that to you all now so you'll
have it for the end of the meeting for
your discussion thank you
thank you
we have james tully who's also virtual
james i've tried to move you over you
have to accept the request
um
00h 25m 00s
well we're actually waiting for someone
that has public testimony
so
we're it's someone that's appearing
virtually and we're allowing him the
space to connect
well i needed clarification obviously so
are we having difficulty
okay or um i don't know if he would like
to present something in writing if he's
able
thank you so so
um director lowry has reminded me that
we will be speaking to this issue at the
end of the meeting and
um and and
and so
if if he'd like to we can try to get him
at that time i'm not sure what the what
the tech difficulty is but
so um do i have a motion and a second to
adopt the consent agenda minus the um
resolution 6484 and um
to speak about to speak to later well
thank you i'll make that motion
i'll second
and the only contract for education
resource strategies
um director green was that was that you
i i did i i made that motion
and i second in that emotion i'm sorry
chair to pass did we pull two items from
that okay we pulled resolution six four
eight four and then we pulled from the
expenditures contracts um from
resolution six four eight four the one
item
it would be nine one four one five
education resource strategies okay
but i i missed the second one i'm sorry
no worries
um okay so i have a motion from director
green and director constant seconds the
adoption of the consent agenda is there
any board discussion on the consent
agenda besides what's happening over
here to my left
um
i want to make sure we hear from our
student representative on what his
thoughts are on the consent agenda
is this me voting yes
this is you um sharing your thoughts
if you want to
we can't tell you how to vote i will be
voting
we could hear your thoughts
i'm thinking i will be voting yes
okay
that's it
is there any public comment ms bradshaw
we did have it
the board will vote on resolution
6479-6485-6484
and the expenditure contract education
resource strategies all in favor please
indicate by saying yes
yes yes
oh opposed please indicate by saying no
and are there any abstentions
in student representative
yes
the consent agenda is proved by a vote
of 7-0 with student representative
unofficially voting yes
we'll turn now to student and public
comment before we begin i'd like to
review the guidelines for public comment
first the board thanks everyone for
taking the time to attend the meeting
tonight and providing your comments
as we all know and you know public input
informs and improves our work and we
look forward to hearing your thoughts
reflections
and or concerns
our responsibility as a board is to
listen and to that end i would ask each
of us here to give our full attention to
the people in front of us
our board office may follow up with you
on board related issues raised during
public testimony
we request that complaints about
individual employees be directed to the
superintendent's office as a personnel
matter
and if you have additional materials or
items you'd like to provide to the board
or the superintendent we ask that you
mail them to public comment
all one word at pps.net
please make sure when you begin your
comment that you clearly state your name
and please spell your last name
and you'll have three minutes to speak
you'll hear a sound after three minutes
which means it's time to conclude your
comments
ms bradshaw do we have anyone signed up
for student or public comment
00h 30m 00s
yes we do um and we have nima cruz who's
providing virtually
hi
hello miss cruz
hi my name is
craws
and i'm a sixth grader at harriet tubman
middle school
as you guys know there have been
walkouts from hdms to this building and
we're not only doing this for mr chu but
also because we feel abandoned because
you guys took the only teacher that
cares about us and can relate to us away
the environment at our school is way too
toxic there have been many fights and
students out of class not learning
anything and because the environment is
so chaotic it makes the teachers not
want to come to school which means we
have to have a sub and then kids don't
learn anything
which causes us to have teacher
shortages and sub shortages
for example we have had lots of subs in
the seventh grade math classes and in
the sixth grade stem class because sadly
our teacher had to leave due to the mass
mandate coming down and her health
issues with that and because of that the
kids all the kids do in that class is
have free time and don't make build or
learn anything in that class like you're
supposed to and i'm not sure if you guys
have made an effort to find a new one or
not
you guys have done nothing to help us
besides hiding this building and take
away our only good teacher i just have
one question for you guys
do you care about us and you guys should
answer it because your actions are not
speaking
i don't know if you could see and hear
that applause
yeah i can
but are you guys gonna answer
should we go down the line i care about
you guys
yes
i'm gonna just thank you for your
comment and your question is uh is a
really good one thank you we're not
we're not to respond from the deus
thank you
yeah
we're we're going to move on i
appreciate uh ms cruz i appreciate your
comments and your question thank you
aaron cruz aaron are you with lima
i don't think he's gonna be
joining us here okay thank you
okay
then we have rada wiley sewn
good evening
good evening
um good evening board members my name is
radha wylie
w-i-l-e-y hyphen s-o-o-d
and i am an eighth grade student at
harriet tubman middle school
here just just a moment i miss what
we're resetting your your timer okay no
worries
can i start now you may yes we just want
to make sure you have the full time okay
thank you good evening board members my
name is radha wiley sued and i am an 8th
grade student at harriet tubman middle
school i'm here today to talk about the
effects of the i5 freeway expansion on
harriet tubman students we can only be
outside for recess arrival and dismissal
my friends and peers feel as though we
are not cared for by the members of the
board i'm sure now is the point where
you will say we cannot control what does
but that's a blatant lie
you said that you were unaware of the
project but a simple search shows that
this plan has been publicly known since
2010.
if any of you put on the local news
chances are you would have heard about
this i'm sure many of you like to be
updated on current events so i'm certain
you've seen it on the news at one point
or another as a mixed indian i
privileges that my family does not i
want to use those privileges and ensure
that my voice is being heard and that
you will actually take action because i
have plenty of peers ready to protest
the paltry compromise you'll inevitably
make
i will not stand for the board making
claims of diversity while harming and
ignoring students of color you all have
the power to make change but rather
ignore the prominent issues and actually
care about your students
it makes me incredibly disappointed and
sad to see people of color on the board
who are not advocating for students like
me
i would love to have such strong members
like you go to bat for your students yet
you seem to be apathetic towards the
community you serve
i also wanted to mention the suspension
of mike salmon and brian chu i
understand you cannot comment on this
because it's a personnel issue but your
reasoning is flawed as to why these
teachers are suspended in mr choo's
class we have a new sub every two days
there is no reasoning provided for
prophase salmon suspension except that
he was known advocate for mr two
your administrators flaunt so-called
discourse while you silence student
staff voices you're not actually
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learning anything and your idea was to
solve staffing issues with more staffing
issues quite frankly i'm enraged
disappointed and frustrated with the
board and i feel as if you don't care
what happens to your students you have
no empathy or remorse for how your
decisions are affecting students social
emotional and mental health
you are making empty promises to get us
into contact with odot and having
one-sided conversations with students
where you repeatedly say you cannot
comment please for me my pure sakes do
better thank you for your time
thank you
danny cage
um good evening directors
i'm gonna move this uh good evening
directors and community members i am
danny cage
uh grant high school's district student
representative and student
representative to the pps board of
education policy committee recently on
april 6th dozens of harriet tubman
middle school students walked out over a
recent teacher placed on leave brian chu
dozens of students are demanding
questions on their education being
disrupted and reinstating of their
teacher we must be clear and realistic
students do not walk out of school for a
bad educator
as a civic leader organizer and
representative i often interact with his
students through civic engagement and
pps
his students gave vital input on the
climate policy that we passed often show
up to our student engagement events and
participate in community organizing
they often fulfill our graduate portrait
which is what we as a district strive
for through the leadership of mr chu as
an educator and he's to thank for this
last week i visited whitman elementary
school
i wore my whitman shirt
when teaching a couple times there
throughout the day i had black male
students come up to me and tell me your
hair is like mine pointing to their hair
those words hold so much importance
because representation matters to our
students
more than we think
i bring this up because we have people
in schools because when we have people
in schools that look like our students
it creates safe spaces when we take away
those safe spaces it disrupts them
i stand before a board three of you are
black and understand the representation
and why this matters
lastly
when having conversations with educators
in pps many teachers of color have said
they have been under scrutiny compared
to white educators
i joined teachers community members and
parents in demanding there be an audit
of hr practices
because of this
i love pps and i care and i know many
others as well
when we we do not donate our free hours
if we do not and i believe that we can
reverse harmful choices like this and
set us on the path
back to progress for our students thank
you
thank
[Applause]
you with chloe wolfson
um
hopefully everyone can hear me my name
is chloe wolfson and i'm a student at
harry timmon middle school
and a student of her boy into mr two
i would like to talk about how to change
without him and why we need him in our
school
um
mr two
just is a really great teacher he has
made sure of supported and he has done
everything in his power
um and he's also talked about stuff and
has the assessment system made me think
of a lot of different stuff that i've
never thought about and be more educated
and i've learned a lot from him um
when we came back he was suspended and
it was certainly different though
there's been steps in the classroom
there's been signs up on the scoop on
the back
and
i ha ha ha ha and it's only been
different the classroom hasn't felt the
same since he's left his stuff has some
of his stuff has been taken out
and
i really miss him being in the classroom
he was a really important teacher to me
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and he actually like talked about stuff
that like other teachers didn't bring up
like he talked about stuff
that like
he had to talk about like problems with
the school problems with the air quality
hey hey um like problems about like how
like they yeah
well like right next to the highway and
well i have i i think i've heard some
other teachers about this but we've
never had like a full like discussion
with the class about this and i
and so i'm bringing this up of how like
he has he's just like different teachers
he really seems to care about us and
i would really like him back in the
classroom like he
like though like one of the examples of
things like he's brought up
is his in the classroom as a topic is
how black history month is the show's
month and i've never thought about that
like i never thought about how it's the
show's month and how that probably was
like that how that was like pope's fault
and like i like there's been so much
i've learned from him um thank you for
your time
thank you so much
thank you miss wilson
with moira finnegan
good evening
my name is moira finnegan my last name
is spelled f-i-n-n-e-g-a-n
i'm a speech language pathologist and i
work at franklin high school i've worked
in special education in pps for 10 years
i've worked at many schools during my
time in pps from kindergarten through
post high school services for young
adults
i truly love my job it's challenging but
very fulfilling
i know i am making a difference in the
lives of my students
i'm here tonight because i am concerned
about a proposed budget cut of 1.7
million dollars for special education
next year
while the overall pps student population
is decreasing the number of students in
need of special education services is
going to stay about the same next year
yet we are projected to lose 16 special
education positions next year
that means we are going to have fewer
special education teachers and other
providers to serve the same number of
students
i can tell you that special education
staff are already spread so thin that we
are at a breaking point this year
if pps goes forward with these proposed
cuts an unsustainable load will be
placed on both special education and
general education teachers and students
that's because special education staff
partner with general education teachers
to support students with academic and
behavioral needs in the classroom if we
are cut our general education colleagues
will feel it too
we have experienced a much greater need
for behavioral supports for our students
this year as students have struggled to
get re-acclimated to full-time in-person
school after being home and doing school
online for over a year
the district has acknowledged that there
is a need for increased mental health
and behavioral supports for our students
but they are effectively decreasing
these types of supports for students
with disabilities by cutting the special
education budget
why are special education positions
being cut
our students are among the highest needs
students in the district
our students include historically
underserved black native american and
students of color we know these students
have experienced inequitable educational
outcomes due to the effects of systemic
racism
added to that our special education
students contend with the challenges of
learning disabilities developmental
disabilities autism and other challenges
cutting supports for these students is
not in keeping with the district's
values and does not align with the
district's goal of improving academic
and life outcomes for historically
underserved students
what will the district be spending money
on next year that is more important than
direct service to our highest need
students
my understanding is that pps will have
approximately 26 million dollars more
next year to spend than we've had this
year
why would we be cutting special
education staff or any teachers or
student support staff for that matter
when we will have more money next year
please do the right thing and restore
the 1.7 million dollars to the special
education budget for next year
thank you
thank you
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[Applause]
courtney brown
good evening
deputies superintendent
general counsel
director student rep my name is courtney
brown b-r-o-w-n
i'm a pps parent of two
daughters i have a freshman at grant and
i have a 7th grader at harriet tubman
i am here tonight to comment on the
disciplinary action taken against mr
brian chu
the actions taken by the district are
wrong and they hurt tubman students
as you just heard i don't have to tell
you how brutal the last two years have
been for our kids they have suffered
mightily through the pandemic and the
impact on their mental health is well
documented
at tubman these effects are on display
every day and the situation is made
worse by the fact that as of monday
our school has lost nine full-time
teachers
my daughter has lost her science teacher
her compacted math teacher the health
teacher and then the district goes and
puts mr chu on leave and on monday she
lost her spanish teacher
for reasons that have yet to be
explained there is a rotating cast of
subs who have no connection to these
students and consequently are
ill-equipped to deal with the difficult
dynamics of the classroom
let alone to teach them anything
our principal reported in a ptsa meeting
just last thursday that our kids have
had to quote endure a lack of
consistency and relationships
the kids don't feel valued everyone is
exhausted morale is low and that mr
chu's absence quote took it to a whole
new stratosphere
do you know that the kids love mr chu
do you know that he's particularly good
at connecting to them
it's ironic that this meeting begins
with a resolution for
teacher appreciation week because
[Applause]
mr chu is exactly the kind of teacher
that his students will never forget
he he listens to them he values them his
classroom is say is a safe space for
them
so why would you go and rip this beloved
teacher out of the classroom with a
teacher with so many deep and important
connections to his students who
desperately need him right now
why would you do this
it seems like a drastic step for pps to
take was he harming students was he
posing some threat to to the classroom
um i
i don't think that that's the case i
think he posed a threat of harm to you
and that you
are retaliating against mr chu because
you don't like his criticism and you
were insulted by some of the wording he
used at a board meeting
i simply cannot understand how any of
these alleged offenses weren't ripping
this beloved teacher out of this
community
especially at this time at this school
and this teacher
these kids are suffering for your
vendetta against mr chu
it makes the district look petty it is
unprofessional
it is vindictive it makes you look
bigoted but worst of all it makes you
look like you don't care about our
students
my hope here tonight is that you will
see that our community loves mr chu that
we want him back in the classroom and
that we support him without reservation
miss brown
miss brown
hi
please put the best interest of our
students i allow time for people i i
allow
additional time for people that have a
harder time getting here thank you
[Applause]
jason mcleod
okay
hi mr mccloud
hi mr mcleod hey how you doing
all right
can you guys hear me
we can't allow it all right here we go
hi my name is jason mcleod mcl eod i am
the head custodian for lane and green
thumb campuses and the custodial
co-chair for seiu
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good afternoon and thank you for having
me appreciate the time
so custodians are angry
and tired of this staffing crisis it's
been hard
we only have 210 custodians
at night minus 20 absenteeism and pps is
averaging two custodians at night in
each school
this is unacceptable imagine having 200
kids come into your house that don't
care about it for eight hours a day
and then not being able to clean the
bathrooms and kitchen and other spaces
properly for weeks or months on end this
is the state of our kids schools
the solution to this problem is simple
raise custodian wages so they're
competitive
when pps bus drivers were short staffed
and could not hire anyone the school
district or school board approved a
three dollar race for them their problem
was addressed
i thank the school board for their
action in authorizing 30 more custodian
positions but unfortunately
sorry excuse me but unfortunately
because our wages are
because our of our low wages these
positions are still not filled a year
later
do you know whose else's wages are not
competitive
nutritional service workers
[Applause]
as of july 1st this year nutritional
services will make less than minimum
wage
this workforce is predominantly women
do right by these hard-working women and
give them a livable wage
mcdonald's starts at more than minimum
wage
we can do better
this is not a 90s r b song request we're
not asking for the moon
in case you're wondering where i was
going with that pps should provide
liberal wages
to all of its employees
nutritional service workers matter
custodians matter
what you decide after this meeting
matters
i just want to be able to afford some
captain crunch okay i'm tired of buying
my kids the off-brand cheerios
this is this is my life
the
15 of our members have public assistance
20 of our members have to work two jobs
to get by and 35 say they can't afford
to live in portland these struggles are
real we're here and we're here well
before the pandemic
i don't know how schools could run
without custodians and nutrition
services and i hope we don't have to
find out
thank you for hearing me i look forward
to these problems being addressed
thank you
[Applause]
thank you
virtually we have nick christensen
hello
hello director directors student
representative weinberg deputy
superintendent hertz thank you so much
uh much like
others i'm asking for something today um
earlier today i went to work and it was
my second day back in the office in two
years but it was cut short because i had
to go back to east portland to pick my
kid up from school
i am fortunate to be one of the people
who is still telecommuting mostly during
the pandemic
uh every morning
at 8 30 i walk my daughter six blocks to
oliver lent elementary and every
afternoon at three i pick her up
earlier this year i was surprised to
find out that of all of pps's elementary
schools oliver lent is one of just four
with no on-site after school care the
other three sitton
cesar chavez and rosa parks are in
similarly similarly low social economic
status communities
while lent offers limited sun
programming that is only available on
certain days and it is space limited
accesses by need and by lottery i know
my school's principal has tried to make
a connection with campfire to offer
after-school programming but there are
financial challenges to putting that
kind of after-school program in a
community where if more than 95
eligible for free and reduced lunch from
what i've heard it just doesn't pencil
out to offer after-school programming at
a campus that doesn't have enough
students of means
to offset the cost of offering a program
at a discounted or free rate to families
who need the
i consider myself to be one of the lucky
ones my wife is a pps teacher so she
can't help with drop off or pick up but
i at this point have the flexibility to
leave my office at about two and finish
my work day
after three
from home
but i know there are plenty of other
families in my kid's school where other
one parent has stopped working or has
had to take some really challenging
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shifts
in order to cover for child care
i know there's not a magic wand that any
of you can waive to fix this problem i'm
just here to make you aware of this
situation and ask that you
request specific follow-ups from
superintendent guerrero and other
leaders
on the ability of pbs to provide
after-school care to every family at
every school that needs it thank you
thank you
also virtually it's chris reiser
can you hear me we can thank you mr
reiser
dear children of harriet tubman middle
school my name is chris reiser r-i-s-e-r
he him pronouns
dear children of harriet tubman middle
school
we love you we see you
and we are here in solidarity with you
dear pps
we are calling upon you to stand on the
right side of history on the side of
children over money and politics though
there's a healthy skepticism you ever
will
pps whose central office is named for a
racist superintendent will not be
remembered at this time for its racial
equity and social justice practices
this period will be remembered as one of
false scarcity digitization
privatization and the reproduction of
white supremacy in new culturally and
linguistically diverse forms
further pps human resources seem to be
actively ridding the district of the
educator sharon reese just recognized in
the resolution for teacher appreciation
week for example monday january 10th at
the height of the omicron surge a vast
majority of staff at ockley green called
out for various reasons including
positive covid cases on wednesday the
12th 19 of us were placed under
investigation and sharon reese issued an
email to all 4 000 pat members warning
us that coordinated action to be absent
is an illegal work stoppage
ppshr spent weeks investigating this and
found nothing but the resulting sense of
institutional intimidation is still
fresh
ppshr prioritized having labor relations
investigate educators during a global
pandemic over ensuring for example that
every school has a full-time principal
because ockle green is still without a
principle or even a communication until
just today about the principal hiring
process as of this meeting
all of this impacts children because we
now have several powerful critical
educators at ockley moving on to other
sites in search of institutional
stability
then there's harriet tubman in their
fourth year of startup no permanent
principle
they've been without seven full-time
educators across the curriculum because
they had taken various leaves
this alone should have sent immediate
alarm bells off for pps
the middle school and pps with one of
the largest black student populations
and is named for one of the most
rebellious and anti-establishment
figures in american history the famous
fugitive from state and federal law
minty harriet tubman
and those seven educators were already
out before brian chu was put on leave
one of the greatest educators i've ever
had the good fortune to observe who has
clearly impacted the lives of countless
children and adults
how can one not feel safe and connected
to an educator who sees you your life
and well-being as his assessment
did pps hr employ the pps racial equity
lens in this decision
how are black and native student groups
affected how will black and native
students experience a greater sense of
belonging
are there any potential unintended
consequences for other specific groups
or populations are there strategies in
place to mitigate any negative impacts
it doesn't appear that ppshr
checked its own racial equity policy in
this decision
students want their teacher back
and i stand in solidarity with the
students the community and my mentor
colleague and friend
so we're here demanding an end to even
the appearance of silencing targeting
intimidation and retaliation per
employment law
brian chu has served the students of
boise eliot and now tubman faithfully
diligently and without respect for white
supremacy in any of its many forms
he has shown up even when you didn't
expect or appreciate community input to
ask questions make connections and hold
this district accountable for serving
black and brown students
we would all do well to get on his level
in the words of code of the friend y'all
selling out for the check we holding out
for the kids please reinstate you
thank you
[Applause]
then also virtually we have karanja cruz
hello
01h 00m 00s
everyone thank you for this time
appreciate you um
i know you guys as a board you have to
operate
um through board policies so i just
wanted to highlight a board policy for
you hopefully you take notes but i also
wanted to note
um a non-response is a response
so a non-response is a response so just
because you don't respond
then you are responding
um so board policy two one zero zero one
dash p
it is the racial educational equity
policy
and item number eight it says the
district shall provide every student
with equitable access to high quality
and culturally relevant instruction
let me repeat that it says culturally
relevant instruction
if you understand that pedagogy and
understand the person who actually
coined that term who is one of my
favorite scholars dr gloria lassen
billings you will understand and do the
research and learn that culturally
relevant instruction is what
true
embodies
so basically what mr chu and how he
teaches as you can
well heard from the students and from
parents
he is practicing culturally relevant
instruction so therefore what i'm asking
you as the board
i already stated these issues from the
top of the year you guys had voted on an
inconclusive
complaint that already highlighted for
you
but there was still no response so this
is well documented so understand that so
also what i need you to understand
even though you're not going to respond
today hopefully you will respond
tomorrow we are asking
we need a it's a state of an emergency
as you can hear but we also need to plan
for next year so what i'm asking is a
comprehensive
planning session
maybe that would include some board
members so we can have a better next
year but in the meantime we need to deal
with the now we need to bring mr chu
back
right now and we also need teachers in
the building right now thank you for
your time
thank you mr cruz
that concludes we have signed up for
public comment we i did get a message
from the person who was on the consent
agenda who said that their their
technical difficulties are over did we
want to ask them to provide comment now
or wait till the end if if he's ready to
provide it now we'll go ahead and take
it
so james tully
james tully mr tully can you hear us
good evening
good evening
uh thank you for having me apologies for
the earlier delay
uh i wanted to say especially a thank
you to uh board member scott for earlier
meeting with us last week
virtually to discuss the pps
inter-district transfer policy
as uh
earlier speaker uh sarah
referred to
what we are looking for is a i've heard
the word a few times tonight in many of
the different uh presenters the word
equity
uh i think it's a it's a wonderful word
uh i feel like in this case with
inter-district policy
it is a token word of equity that we are
not seen and enacted in policy
we are requesting that
uh in similar to transfer out of
district we have very little recourse
there's basically no
uh allowances that are similar to
transfer to in district in district is
if you move if there's other extenuating
circumstances but then there's a
catch-all a 100 students can transfer
into district
meeting none of the other criteria
which is fine that's great but why is
that same uh
provision not allowed for students to
equitably leave the district
why is there no catch-all for students
for up to 100 to leave the district i
guess i'm just very confused if you look
at your own stats for the past six or
seven years
transfers into district in 2014-15
634 out of district 36
for a net gain of 600 students
similar stats all the last five six
01h 05m 00s
years 350 yen 94 out
250 yen 50 out every year is a net of
100 to
400 students
that game i guess i'm just confused why
uh students are not allowed to leave in
a catch-all situation if they don't meet
any of the other criteria and it could
be as simple as a lottery system where
100 we have 100 spots to leave if you're
lucky enough to to hit the number then
good if you're not then
then tough luck so to speak
um i guess i just don't understand a
lack of equity i do very much thank uh
member scott for his transparency and
meeting with us and saying hey you might
not like the answers but i'll try to get
you some answers so far we haven't heard
exactly what's behind this lack of
equity in our thoughts
so if if there's not going to be any
changes to the current policy let's just
call it what it is and say that each
student is basically assigned a dollar
value and pps while happy to take those
dollar symbols in is more reluctant to
give those dollars back away to other
districts
liberal policies are abundant in
neighboring districts districts
clackamas lake oswego they're happy to
release their students into pps but we
for some reason are very reluctant to
release
our students with any sort of uh
catch-all
so we encourage you to if equity is
something that we value as we keep using
it tonight and we've used it in the past
let's make it applicable and let's make
it a reality
and uh
and shown in our policy not just a token
phrase that we throw around mr tully
i'm sorry to interrupt you we allow
everybody three minutes and when you're
virtual i don't think you can hear the
signal
um but we've we've gotten the notes and
i think have the gist of your testimony
thank you
very good thank you all
that concludes our public testimony um
thank you all for your comments um
they're uh
they're important to us and um if you
have anything you'd like to follow up
with you're free to connect with our
senior board manager
roseanne powell if you have something
specifically you'd like to follow up
with the board office
sorry i'm i'm a little bit lost trying
to sign in
so the student representatives report
yes i'm just trying to sign into my
my device
not being very successful i can give a
very short report just a thank you to
all the public commenters especially the
students who came forward and gave their
public comment thank you
authorizing which is yes which is why i
wanted to verify so i had my attendant
open but i skipped them
all
all help is welcome um
[Music]
i even if it's wrong um but i appreciate
the effort that was very kind of you to
try
um we're now going to move to
authorizing the agreement for the joint
use of portland public schools and
portland parks and recreation athletic
facilities
deputy superintendent hertz i understand
you're going to introduce this item
yes thank you chair de pass
i would like to introduce i'll give them
a minute to come down on down
we have um
i'd like to introduce dana white our
director of planning and real estate
management
dana okay
diggies and david
dana white
thank you
i wasn't expecting her to get up there
and turn letters
i'm old enough to remember that
i don't i don't know if direct director
green is though oh probably not
probably not so different
so now now you've met uh diana why did i
i'm going to go ahead and introduce the
rest great thank you
marshall haskins senior director of
athletics good to see you marshall
and dylan paul from portland parks and
recreation
they will be presenting the agreement
tonight
thank you
i believe you have the materials in your
packets
and we do have a brief presentation that
we can go through quickly and i think
cara do you have that
pulled up
no
[Laughter]
okay
it's yeah we it is in the packet it is
in the packet okay she'll she'll load it
for us so we can all review it together
all right
that sounds great
01h 10m 00s
hmm
thank you
okay great
so tonight what we're bringing forward
to you is the first of two parts of our
agreement that we're working on with
portland public parks and
several months ago actually almost two
years ago uh we engaged in this dialogue
with parks and we engaged um eco
northwest to come in and help us
understand where are we what's going on
how do we how do we make this
relationship more fruitful and
beneficial for both parties and for the
community as a whole
one of the recommendations was that we
bifurcate the athletic agreement with
the real estate agreement so what you're
seeing tonight is the athletic agreement
between ourselves and parks next slide
please
so the purpose of this is really an
exchange of asset use
parks needs gyms we need golf courses
pools fields things like that that we
don't have so we are worked very hard to
try and
and exchange those the use of those
assets next slide
this is the negotiation team you can see
on pbs i was myself and kirsten cowden
and marshall's group um who did a
tremendous amount of heavy lifting to
get this over the finish line and at ppr
um dylan paul as you know as
deputy hurts mentioned is here with us
and his team working uh very hard on on
putting this whole thing together
next slide
this is the process outline i won't read
the whole thing to you because i know
you can all read um but we've gone
through for the last you know almost two
years a really detailed evaluation of
where are we where have we been what do
we want this to look like in the future
let's
put the past behind us and move forward
um and so this is this is what we've
come up with for today uh we did take
this then to
uh the facilities and operations
committee and now we're bringing it to
you all and it's scheduled to go to city
council here um in may next slide
our key issues were really around
modifying the hours of use in our
practice fields there was a bell
schedule change and i know marshall can
answer more questions about that than i
can
but this was a big shift uh for us and a
big shift for parks because it really
changes what they have to offer for the
community when we change our hours
so they did the best they could to
accommodate us in as many places as
possible
um we wanted to make sure that we had
sort of a priority use
for their fields
we had some concerns about the use
agreements where there are third parties
like soccer at buckman i know everybody
knows that particular example
and we have some constraints at area
facilities like uh dunaway park and some
things where they're just really
overused and we have trouble getting on
there
next slide
so what changed in this new agreement is
uh we did get the hours of use at most
of the fields that we requested uh we
have a three-year commitment
for both parties and you'll see in your
appendix a it's by location day hour it
is the nitty-gritty and so you can
imagine a lot of people put hundreds and
hundreds of hours into this
um
parks significantly reduced the number
of fields of hours that they are
utilizing opening those back up for the
general public
each party committed that any material
change in a jointly used facility like
sponsorship or a big construction
project that we would that we would talk
to each other before that happens
so that we weren't blindsided by things
like that in the future
and and then we had made a commitment
that each of us would prioritize our
jointly used assets that we both use in
terms of our capitalization next slide
we created a joint management team for
oversight and for dispute resolution one
of the things that we noticed did not
happen with the 2010 agreement was
really that ongoing relationship really
building that strong trust and that
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ability to try to work things out and i
think we've come a long way and now we
have a framework for that
um like i said we have outlined all of
the uses for both parties to the degree
that there are additional uses that may
come up
and certainly if there are direct
expenses for example custodial
that are out-of-pocket expenses we will
pay each other for those
this agreement covers three years it's a
rolling agreement but we've now been
able to to codify for the next three
years
our needs and and as as has parked so
that we can then um
permit those and make schedules for for
teams
at the end of two years we'll
look at it again and i know i know
marshall can't wait for that he's very
excited look look at the joy
on his face
um and then if we have any material
programmatic changes that we would have
we would give each other two years
notice so we would have a chance to talk
about that
um if if we if parks needs for a funding
source to to to try to go to a third
party
let's talk about that first and see if
we can do something together because we
both agree that we would prefer while
not improving each other's assets we
would really prefer to work together
rather than a third party
next slide
so the next steps
of the presentation we did to facilities
and operations last week
and then tonight we are with you hoping
that we can get your approval dylan has
scheduled city council uh for may 18th
and then as soon as we have everybody's
uh blessing then we will talk about how
we communicate this and begin the
negotiations for our real estate
agreement
and i think that's the last car i think
that's the is there one more yeah
questions
so
does the board um i have a question as
um the facilities committee
um
director hollins did you uh have any any
uh thoughts about the presentation you
heard earlier
uh yes i did and i um
expressed some of those concerns at the
facilities
meeting
but i wanted to make sure that the
rest of the board had some input on
the issue
one of the big issues that i had was
the fact that it seems like two
organizations
when you look at the times
with some of these agreements
it pushes out
any community groups
to have use of facilities out at a later
time
and that's one of the things that i had
mentioned that
facilities and operations committee um
as well
um i don't know exactly what could or
should be done about that i don't know
if that's a
you know policy something a policy at
pps that we look at to make the cuv
process a little bit more
favorable and i'm only speaking from you
know
coming from a place of trying to
access cub processes before
and
so looking at that it just to me it just
looks like it's it squeezes out everyone
else and just makes way for pps and
portland parks
when we look at other
things like when we talk about
um
agreements where other organizations are
putting money in for instance uh
buckman where you have other
organization who puts in money
in
the way i look at it as an investment
for their kids they get access to it um
unfortunately pps haven't done that yet
as far as putting investments into stuff
because um
buckman's track that benson high school
still uses is still not fixed
i don't know if that's a
pps issue or a parks issue but i know
it's a kid issue that hasn't been done
since i've been running on it
when i was in high school and so when we
look at these type of agreements um i
just want i just kind of make sure to
make sure that we are keeping our kids
interest
um all of our kids not just pps kids not
just the kids that programs that parks
uses for but all of our kids so
you know i'm back and forth on i think
it's great that
we're getting more access for our kids
but once again i think it's
i don't know how we can
maneuver this around so that way it's
not just for our kids but other
community kids and other clubs that
handle our kids when pbs doesn't or when
parks doesn't um to be able to have
access to these facilities as well
and i still want to know i'm glad we got
the parks guy here what's what we're
going to do about buckman's track
i got a question well i don't want to
get an answer though
yeah i'm happy to answer um
can you hear me okay yeah i hate you
clearly so um
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i think we represent um kind of a
continuum within portland of uh i think
all sports across the city and you know
we really create an amazing access
we have a problem with having more asks
than we have available resources we also
have a hard time maintaining the
resources once we build them we have
trouble funding them we have trouble
maintaining them and so there's a right
mix that i think we've tried a lot of
different solutions
we're getting better at it i don't think
we have the answer today for how to make
this all work so there is a balance i
think to be had
this agreement represents
um i think a future for us where we're
working more together to meet those
challenges over you know i think a more
noble
trajectory but i don't know that we have
the answers for how to fix some of the
the failing infrastructure so it is i
think paramount to us um as well so as
you talk about
working together is that where we can
work together to get that track fixed
bringing it home i i think where there
are sites where our properties overlap
we are bound
we have very similar missions um though
some of our our mission alignment is
often you know
as we grow as entities and we become
more unique some of those have created
conflicts so one of the things we seek
to do is to create new solutions rather
than just using the old tools so where
you have a track that is adjacent to a
pps site
you know how do we ensure that
the right resources are always on that
right so when it's completely within
one group's portfolio it limits the
amount of
options available so we don't generally
want to improve each other's properties
because it creates a more complicated
equation but some sites we're going to
be either coupled together forever or
we're going to work out some sort of a
different solution that we haven't come
up with yet okay so help me understand
because i i like the political correct
answer that you gave
but like for the kids that's there
that's running track
that's and this that track has been in
disarray for like almost 20 years
that's not a real acceptable answer for
them and the
the fields that they have to use
so
when we talk about
so when you talk about these agreements
is there a maintenance and upkeep
proponent to these agree this
disagreement as well so this agreement
primarily was about the exchange of
available resources the next part is
going to be harder and it will talk a
little bit more about some of the assets
so i would expect that we will work to
to solve some of those issues
historically a lot of these assets have
failed um pretty severely before there
was enough
support to to fund the repair it's not
something that um deferred maintenance i
think haunts us all right so um
i hope that we find the solution for
some of these
sites that are most critical to us
though in my experience
most of these sites that are high use do
have solutions that present themselves
um normally it comes in the 11th hour
i'd like to do better um but we only
have what we have to work with that's
what that process so with the new parks
bond has passed
without help provide other funds because
i look at my property tax bills and i'm
loving the fact that we're investing in
it but i need to see that action i wish
we could use it for capital improvements
it's primarily or it's solely for
operations so um it doesn't allow for
cap capital projects but that do free up
that do free up because you're not
spending your budget on capital
improvement don't that free up capital
improvement dollars it filled in our
deepest ravines
right so brought service levels up back
up to a minimum bar
though it did expand some programming
that was new and different
but i can tell you that as far as
diverting resources
it would be
i think um
fair to say that we we won't be finding
extra money at the end of each year
so that's my comment
that that was um i appreciate that
i just want to throw that out there for
the record because i don't have politics
but that was a political note okay
that's all right okay
we're going to go to director brim
edwards we're going to go to director to
pass we're going to go down the line all
right i think you have something to say
to me
so i had um sort of three general lines
of questions um
one uh you know really applaud the
district um
for uh starting and uh expanding middle
school sports which we didn't have
before
um
and one one of the results of that is
increased usage uh because we have
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you know in a good way more uh of our
students out um
practicing and i'm wondering if uh
this is my first question one of as part
of this agreement we've um
have increased use of our own facilities
or
because i know like when my kids were in
middle school
um at a title one school
other schools use their gym but they
didn't get to use it so i'm i wanna just
wanna make sure that we in this
agreement uh for all of our middle
school programs are
utilizing you know if you your kids go
to a school they've got a sports middle
school sports says pps that they're
getting to use their own gym
or
or field if that's the case so that's my
first question
yes um
i'm
not going to speak for dylan but his
predecessor would say that we took the
fields back and the gyms back
so i feel confident that we through this
agreement have what we need for
middle school
i'd be remiss if i didn't say that
part of our problem is that some of our
middle schools are not adequate
so when we had uh kellogg for example we
had two gymnasiums there and we had two
athletic fields we built a new school we
have one gym and no athletic fields so
part of our
lack
of resource is that we
recreate it
i do but within the agreement i think we
uh moved past uh part of the language uh
in the agreement in the past agreement
was that it only the agreement only
addressed high school athletics that was
pil
now the agreement address is pps
so we we use our facilities for whatever
we needed whether it be club sports and
or pil or piou sports
great because there was nothing worse
than getting kicked out of your own gym
by
a non-school team
um
the second question i'd have i have is
somewhat related to
director hollins and sort of the
maintenance and the capital is
as we as we think ahead to our
our next bonds and we make um
if we if we choose to make very
deliberate um
investments in our
um our capital facilities as is
contemplated in the long-range
facilities plan
um how
is that a separate agreement um or
are we planning on any sort of like
parks and pbs going out at the same time
because we have this issue and then we
can take care of director holland's
track
um so i'm just thinking about how
because
to me i see it's like we're going to be
less scarcity and more as
director um green always likes to talk
about abundance um
how do you see that and how would that
disagreement are we getting ourselves
locked in or is there the possibility of
future
cooperation then well i think there's
always opportunity for collaboration and
i think at a level of mind there needs
to be a conversation about
uh
how do we look at
uh athletic facility across the across
our city
there's not enough
even if we
as a director holland said if we take
what we need for pil
and for clubs
within pil and for
unified sports within pps and then
portland parks does the programming they
do there's always going to be the
mom-and-pop programs that are spring up
that's going to say hey i want to do au
basketball or i want to do asa softball
and so
since we know we need more and if we
look at the suburban schools outside of
us you can see what we unfortunately we
get to see what it looks like like
literally we're renting hood view uh
which is north clackamas one of their
high schools facilities to play softball
because we have no terror softball field
so it's all rained out right so we know
what it looks like so i think it would
be great to have some type of
collaboration with portland parks
so that we could have some better
facilities for the city
the second part of your question um as i
hear it is will we have enough for
ourselves
what i think that part of the agreement
is
uh as high school facilities we don't
normally use cubs for outside users
because we
we use them all right so then the
question becomes for
youth sports
and middle schools and elementary
schools as we build them do we build
them to capacity uh thinking about
athletics or is athletics secondary so
and i
got to put it out there mac like
director hollands now so in our previous
bond we had 35 million allocated for
athletics the bond basically doubled and
we went to zero so i would hope that in
the next bond there could be some
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prioritization of athletic facilities
that then could be used by
us portland parks and then
the the city of portland as a whole
that wasn't a complete setup for you but
it was yeah you did a nice job
and then my last question is and this is
as a parent of a
female
pil athlete is
who often didn't ever practice or play
on her
home
in her home school because the boy
that's where the boys practiced um
i'm wondering if we've done an analysis
of just um how these are divided up and
whether um we've looked at it through
the lens of title title ix of like who
gets who who's practicing
where and i guess that
most like softball
baseball or
just how it gets divided up and maybe
that's not part of this use agreement
but but maybe it is because there's an
awful lot of parks facilities that girls
teams use that aren't
near the school well i don't think it
was uh intentionally a part of the
agreement i will say that we have had a
couple title nine
situations occur including grant as our
as our latest
that has forced us to
move beyond where we were even at grant
we perceived that as a multi-purpose
field when it was built
it was built
and softball said they didn't want to be
at grant they wanted to have the whole
dirt because they had someone who had
been a olympic softball player who
believed that
softball shouldn't be played on turf
so we proceeded down that road i think
that the lesson we've learned is that
um from my office we need to look at
through that lens of title line all the
time no one's going to have a you know
girls get to say they want to be
somewhere else you don't get that option
anymore we're going to build it with
all of those things in mind an example
would be
we were talking yesterday about lincoln
with their
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project manager and i was like okay
tell me where the lacrosse lives for
girls are tell me where they are for
boys they both need to be on this field
brother the girls want to play here or
not because we can't go five years down
the road and then someone say we don't
have the girls here on on campus why
isn't that so so we have learned some
lessons
um that i think that is going to make us
better stewards of our facilities and
certainly in compliance with um not only
title ix but doing what's what's right
for kids i i think that's at the
forefront that kids should come first
and prioritize what their needs are
short and long term
thank you i had questions about that
whether or not there was a community
oversight board
with both entities
to talk about things such as director
hollins mentioned
that was one question also i worked for
the parks bureau for a long time
managing bond construction projects and
the fields are challenging the dog parks
are very
very very challenging
so i know there's um as we urbanize and
get
our city grows that we're going to have
more demand for fields
and so i was curious to explore this
time of use from three to six to four to
seven and how that impacts pps uh kids
versus the community and then my last
question has to do with sports equity
and just a question of whether we're
investing as much in sports such as
track and basketball as we are in
lacrosse and and soccer fields
as a community so
so was that three-parter
it's kind of a three-parter yeah it was
about community oversight whether
whether there was a joint
pps ppr
oversight board or if that that was a
consideration was curious about the time
of use and how that impacted pps kids
versus the community at large
and then just curious about the sports
equity if we consider
investments in
sports such as track and basketball
it you know
as compared to lacrosse and soccer
so it's who who's who's playing what
sports and do we invest equally in in
all of our guests i'll answer them in
reverse and i'll let dylan and and dana
answer the the first question so regards
to our investment in
individual or particular sports like
lacrosse for
we have
pil athletics lacrosse isn't one of
those they're considered club sport
and in our district in some other
district they consider them a park so
they're part of their budget and those
things uh we we do support them in a way
but technically they're not ours
but when we do build
uh fields turf fields they are
considered and then they are used in
terms of
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do we have a
robust uh 6 through 12 lacrosse program
that's that's that's sanctioned
supported with resources from pps no
we we don't um i
there is a move right now
um internally to
bring all
sports to my office so whether you're
club sports or not so then we could
ensure
perhaps more
ensure more opportunities for kids who
want to do those those non-traditional
sports track is a traditional sport so
there's so i say lacrosse ski
escape
not skateboarding um snowboarding
rugby those are probably the major ones
that are not
pil sports
and then in terms of access for
any population
i think bringing it in house
increases the probability that those
things will happen
currently those things are by choice at
clubs based on what kids at a particular
school want to have
we do have kids who are
participating in clubs
that are not at their school so there's
kids who like franklin plays cleveland
lacrosse because cleveland
doesn't have it franklin doesn't have it
we have kids we have a
rugby team that's kind of almost like
all city rugby team that practices at
roosevelt but all the schools don't have
rugby
i do think at some point in time
given the resource to do it i think we
would like to provide that opportunity
across the city
i think i would say in terms of the
oversight group we
right now that consists of our two
groups um i will say that parks
relinquished about half of the fields
that they had been reserving so quite a
few fields have opened up after that
as we go forward and we start looking at
maybe the longer term use and how we
plan in the future to to accommodate the
community and our growing needs
getting additional community input would
be really valuable
i totally agree and then your third
question uh which was about the time
change time of use yes it was building
on director holland's question about it
so
and what the impact of that was so since
since uh director hollins was in school
before me when he was in school
school got out at two o'clock long long
time right so school got out at two
o'clock so this agreement was you got
out of two so if we got the skills the
parks from three to six that made sense
well now schools are out at 3 30 so now
it's a problem
even from four to four to seven it's
really to be a problem to be honest just
because your kids are going to have to
leave school we're we're really
concerned right now that in the spring
tennis softball baseball we've rained
out
pretty much the last two weeks right
anticipating more rain the next couple
days so we're we're behind and the only
way you catch up is you're gonna have to
play the games earlier in the day the
play places that have turf in order to
get them for that to happen which means
kids might be out of class a little
earlier than normal to get to somewhere
to play so you can get to get their
games in
um
and we re the backside of that is at
several of the sites
we were there at six we finished at six
and there was no one behind us anyway so
i think that those sites it was easy to
give us to seven i think there are other
sites where
uh literally
um
at benson for their soccer club when
we're it's 5 59 in 59 seconds they're
going to start phil here's a permit get
out of the way
um
so so it's a it's a it's a balancing act
i don't think that we were intentionally
trying to displace it any place
especially for baseball softball because
the youth programs baseball and softball
are actually our youth programs
that's part of why park bureau is upset
with us because we brought them in to
say we want a 6 through 12 program
rather than
maybe someone has a program and maybe
someone doesn't
when we start calling pil youth sports
then the permit really is we get done at
six and then our youth sports go right
after us right so that's how we kind of
set it up so some of it is is language
um uh but i don't think we at any site
do we displace anyone that's connected
to us or little league or asa softball
any of those things to get to seven
o'clock
okay and i i understand the challenge of
um scheduling the the fields um you know
as a little league parent
um yeah there's sometimes there's
somebody right behind you and it's all
evening
um those were my questions thank you
you want to go ahead hermit
i think some of my questions got
answered i want to
when i'm looking at um how this works
i want to ask a question it one is
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i had to the community oversight which
she brought up um like i know that we're
involved and
they're involved but when i think about
our fields and how the community is is
using them and you know have we have we
brought the community into play to say
you know how is this going to work out
for everybody involved and i say that
specifically thinking about roosevelt as
where we have a strong um
marshall probably knows the folks that
come up on saturday every saturday been
doing it religiously since the um since
the field open um to play soccer as an
older adult league from
and so how does something like this
displace a group like that if it does at
all or maybe it doesn't and so if you
could just speak to that for me i would
i would appreciate that um and then with
our um with our gems
with this agreement and i and i think of
the gym specifically because
you know we have we have a lot of youth
programs but we also have community
programs that use our gyms for different
things and so with this relationship
with
with parks that in turn um
not afford some of them to have access
to the gyms during times because parks
has um has reserved that time for the
space and then my last question um or
is really for
we're all here you know trying to get
this but i just want tell me why i hate
this marshall
i want you to i want you to tell me why
i hate this and so
because it's easy to get up there and
say why we should sell it
but i feel like in every debate
we need to understand both sides of it
and so
i'm asking you to tell me why i hate
this
otherwise i'm going to go back and
figure out why i hate this and our last
meeting
at our last meeting i spent a lot of
time telling them why i hate this and
then he told me why i shouldn't hate it
so much
so
you know
it's hard but you guys ask these really
hard long eight part questions i gotta
try to keep track here well we're a
warner alumni so i know that you're
educated enough to handle all them
things that's my that's my guy says way
way back he knew this was a long-loaded
question when i stood up as a preacher
he knew this
that's true
so um well what i would say is in any
negotiation you never get all that you
want let's just start with that right so
we didn't get all what we wanted
because it was up to me we would use our
fields all the way until
every pps kid said i'm done then i go
with pps good luck right but so in the
in the in the spirit of of collaboration
i i think we got what we needed i i i
would be remiss if i didn't say that i
am upset about a couple sites that have
not been
taken care of i guess vincent is an
example
i'm not happy about some of the
agreements that they have with outside
users that we were not prioritized again
like benson and buckman the soccer club
um
i would say that
um
those would probably be the two big ones
wouldn't it probably oh and and and and
the fact that we don't have pools
uh our golf courses or tennis courts
uh courts we're totally dependent on on
them i mean honestly we are i mean we
have
uh in the spirit of trying to grow
programming tennis used to be a
12-person team we have teams that are 36
because we want kids who want to be
engaged to participate so we need to use
gabriel park because it has eight courts
right but at cleveland they got two
courts and marshall they got one court
so
just us not having enough
causes some angst in the relationship
because we need more than they have to
give so that's why i would hate oh one
other and then they do have kind of in
line with that they do have places we
really really wish we'd have
and i'll i see amy i think about dunaway
because it's closer to lincoln than
where we were gonna have to have lincoln
go to do some things but
at the end of the day um
we have some high schools that are on
some land that there's no land around it
so we're going to have to travel anyway
right make the best of it um in regards
to
the
people who want to use pps facilities
i don't think this is going to be less
use for them
i i think that actually the use is going
to be greater from pps because portland
parks is using less than they used to
use
um i do know for a fact that
uh
there's permitting and then there's
using
so the people that permit our fields i
think they're
for the most part pretty happy
the users just show up
and if we're not there to put them off
they're there and so i'll use marshall
on campus as an example we've had an
adult soccer league out there every
sunday for probably the whole time i've
been here right because they go there
there's a track we leave the track open
for community use and then the turf
fills there why wouldn't we
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we use it right so uh so they're
permittees and then they're users so i
think that we're not gonna we that the
user piece is not gonna get solved we're
i don't think we're ever gonna because
if we put someone out there until five
o'clock they come at six if we put them
to six they come at eight right they
don't have the ability to turn the
lights on so that's probably our only
time they wouldn't use our our fields
um in terms of internal
in terms of gyms i don't think we'll
ever have enough gyms um right now i
think park bureau
is
i wouldn't say happy but satisfied i
think we're satisfied but not thrilled
right
um but and then the the users uh i think
become seasonal so you have gym time
during your peak season of
high school basketball right but then
after that it's just about permitting
people just need to learn the process
and come permit there's gyms there's
availability and they do that
i think the same thing with volleyball i
think park bureau does volleyball in the
fall then they're turning to do it in
the spring and then the
and that's only half of the use normally
of gym so there's gyms available for
people perhaps the question would be
outside users do they know the process
and how we communicated that to them in
a way that i'm
johnny and i want to start a program for
girls basketball i want to use
jefferson's gym how do i do that maybe
they don't know how to do that so
they're complaining they don't have
access because they just show up so
perhaps we can do a little bit better
about educating the community as a whole
as to how to access would be the answers
to those
or perhaps even just you know portland
parks puts out a comprehensive seasonal
um schedule for community members i
wonder if there's a way and i guess one
other part i think that
the people who play
aau basketball
or
people who want to play basketball use
the gyms
volleyball or basketball they're either
in park bureau
they're in our plu sports program or
their aau right
aau has always had to go find their gyms
there's no way for us to take care of
all of them
smart aau programs
are in their program part of the time
they're in our program part of time and
they're double dipping on gym use that's
that's that's how it has to happen
there's no other way around it and why
you hate this agreement is that
nobody wants to say no especially not to
youth
and certainly not to other community
members who live nearby a park or a
school
the reality is that you have a pretty
amazing team of
good negotiators that actually this is
about as good as it gets so why i love
it is that we've maximized
the
the benefit we could use twice as many
of your gyms
there are barriers that
you know we have to work through in
order to be able to do those things
there will always be parties that are
displaced when we change hours
what we've learned is that community
engagement around projects is amazing
community engagement around policy is
amazing oftentimes in difficult
negotiations where there's not enough
you know it's tricky we have different
stakeholders to bring to those sorts of
things so i don't know that that would
be
an amazing fit between two separate
entities
but i will say that as we look towards
the future we know that lights and
synthetic turf
extend
usable play hours so they are a priority
for us moving forward
they're also more expensive to replace
they're cheaper to maintain so
oftentimes you forget about those so
having a consistent approach to
expanding and growing with the growing
need of our region of new and different
sports
we can't build
you know that what 60 gyms that we need
to use we would never be able to afford
that on our own and and we offer
different assets that may not be you
know economical for schools to to
maintain but as to regional entities i
think we're maximizing value but there's
always going to be more work to you know
to do but investing
in different resources
to the overall benefit i think is is is
is what we're looking to do in some
capacity
but it's it's going to take it's going
to take resources as well and commitment
and
you know
work in the meantime we're going to say
no to some groups because we have to
prioritize um you know in line with our
unique missions and to make sure that we
have a full range of sports
i mean as a region if you can't start
off in youth play and go all the way up
right then you know we're then we have
gaps right and so is that the most
important thing or is having the most
you know youth youth program available
we debate this every day at portland
parks and we we don't have the answer
but i think that being curious about it
and expanding that and focusing on the
type of improvements that you know meet
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the larger needs of the region as well
as our own and when possible doing them
on our own property to make sure that we
have that priority use already built in
i think it's going to be critical for
the future but you have a great team
they got a lot of of of great
compromises from our sports team who
worked very hard with them so i'm proud
to be you know here tonight and also to
be sitting next to your staff who um i i
think
they did amazing so
i think the other can i just say yes
i think julia our
director brim edwards
um raise a good point about what are
things we could collaborately talk about
at a level way higher than mine that
um
like for us the fact that like i said
before we're going to hood view and
north clackam is to play softball games
uh to
park grill's credit they've done
everything they can to try to make delta
park playable for us
but it's wet it's been raining right so
a great collaborative project might be
that how do we help them do something to
get turf fields at delta park so that we
can be there same thing with more turf
fields at delta park that we use for
soccer a lot of times when we build our
high school facilities the thought is
wow we got a softball baseball complex a
grant we've taken care of it well that's
for one team
but grant has three baseball teams or
maybe four they have two or three
softball teams where are the other teams
going to go play and then now we have a
situation where we're going to take care
of our city because they go to the
playoffs or whatever but jv might lose
three quarters of their season because
there's nowhere to play because of rain
so how we could work to collaborate to
up upgrade each other's facilities so
it's more access for kids would be the
last part of that question
and they should all get raincoats and we
should all be playing in the rain
on turf
on turf yes so it doesn't tear the
sports fields up okay and then we're
gonna um after your car i want to help
conclude this conversation but um
first i do appreciate like
an
obviously greater sense of collaboration
here which i think is going to be
helpful for our kids um moving forward i
think the reason that this conversation
is so hard and that we've spent so much
time on it is because we have a real
scarcity of resources which is really
bad for our community and to me it's a
bad reflection of our community that
we're not investing in our kids and will
take some responsibility you know in
terms of not prioritizing athletic
resources in our bonds
i will also say that for a long time i
think portland parks and rec has really
de-emphasized the recreation
and athletic aspect of
your their mission
um and just really under invested in
these resources for our kids so the to
the extent that we can all come together
and try to um
really increase these opportunities for
our kids i just think it's hugely
important i think that you know there
are funds available now where people are
trying to address our epidemic of
community violence and i think athletic
resources is a response to this very um
this this moment that we're in that is
um
so terrible to live through and and is
taking so many of our our children so i
think we should
be creative in that sense and looking at
all different kinds of resources
specifically with this agreement um
i am going to be very interested in the
the real estate uh
discussions i think there still may be
some
potential swaps that could make sense
for us um in terms of actual ownership
um i also think there may be some you
underutilized properties that we both
own that could be put into play pun
intended if with a little bit of
investment
we could make them usable for our kids
spaces that aren't usable i certainly
have my eyes on
ones that are owned by the parks bureau
but you guys might have your eyes on
some that are owned by us as well so i
think that should be an important part
of that conversation and then just to
the last point
i do
i was told in this agreement that the
the clause that
in the previous mou that stated that
public school students had right first
priority to publicly funded parks and
rec properties
is coming out or maybe
may be renegotiated in the real estate
agreements and that the current
agreements with third parties
will move forward and that those third
parties are likely to have an
opportunity to renegotiate those same
agreements those parties that have
invested in parks facilities is that
true
01h 55m 00s
so
that i think if you're referring to
buckman the party there
executed their last term from a deal
that was negotiated several decades ago
so there is no um there's no field that
i'm aware of where there's any
unilateral right to extend or what about
places like dunaway were there it wasn't
from an original investment but it's
just an existing agreement that it
brings revenue into portland parks
i think what we have is a really mixed
history around trying to keep fields
open so most of these came out of fields
that failed where there was no revenue
at the time from any party
and there was a an opportunity to
activate that field some of those
agreements i think worked well others
worked less well yeah i think that as we
move forward we're looking for
things that are sustainable over the
long run so having an initial investment
but then having it you know be returned
in the same state is never ideal so
we're always looking at how do we
provide at a minimum
you know access how do we make sure that
our regional partners are involved with
those decisions as we move forward
because
the only way to get there is together we
need to coordinate our resources
regionally in order to be successful so
i agree i i think that
it's a difficult question to ask because
it's site-dependent based off of the
history and former commitments but we
are looking towards having a far more
collaborative process around
solution solutions problem solving for
these sites
so i think i think you hit on a couple
of really smart points for this next
section with how do we you know make
sure that the right
management and ownership exists
where um the the sites are so heavily
dependent on on on you know programs
that are
adjacent or you know active at your
i like the sound of what you just said
and i like the notion of having public
private partnerships
where we're getting some investment into
our public facilities what i don't like
is double dipping on part of the public
entity where the taxpayers are paying
for the underlying asset and then tax
paying citizens are having to pay again
to use them or they're being displaced
by for-profit entities
that are um
paying to use taxpayer
taxpayer-funded properties that's a
piece that i think has to go away yeah i
i would agree that some a deal like that
today would not go forward
have a deal like that at dunaway park
with uh it's not it's not well maybe
with some for-profit uh
clubs soccer clubs as well as st mary's
private institution but not uh public
schools which by our previous contract
which was in place until
about five minutes hence from now
was supposedly prioritized public school
students
so that's a total violation
i appreciate the comments and we've got
two more questions i'm going to ask the
people that have questions if it could
be answered in an email because i'm
trying to move the conversation along
so
the and student representative
you asked first but i just the answer is
yes so go
my very quick question it's going to be
a yes or no question um
is
i've seen
in my own school in other schools a
prioritization of certain sports
especially when seasons overlap for
those sports does the amount of time
four to seven allow for flexibility for
sports using like the same gym yes okay
that's it thank you
and my question can be answered by email
but it revolves around sport being a
tool for inclusion and
between uh pps and city of portland who
own sort of the united teams um which
are
okay you can tell me you can tell me how
this agreement supports that by email
this is really just 30 seconds right now
no no one owns it
because it's easy
we're all complicit no one owns it this
year next year uh piano athletics will
on it
okay
i want to thank staff for your input in
portland public portland parks and rec
always a parky i worked under charles
jordan
he was amazing um anyway i appreciate
you and the work that's got into this
and look forward to
a healthy collaboration
in the future
um so do we do i have a motion in a
second to adopt resolution 6488
authorizing the agreement between for
the joint use of portland public schools
and portland parks and recreation
athletic facilities so moved second
on cue
director green moves and director brehm
edwards seconds the adoption of
resolution 6488
02h 00m 00s
i want to make sure we hear from our
student representative on what his
thoughts are and then we'll ask for i
think we had our board discussion
do you have additional thoughts to share
uh student representative weinberg nope
that's all thank you
and ms bradshaw
more swimming pools
um do we have any public comment ms
bradshaw no
okay the board will now vote on
resolution 6488 authorizing the
agreement for the joint use of portland
public schools
and portland parks and recreation
athletic facilities all in favor please
indicate by saying yes yes yes
i'll oppose please indicate by saying no
and are there any abstentions
resolution 6488 passes
is approved by abort a vote of 7-0 with
student representative weinberg voting
yes
great
um we're going to skip over the student
representatives report
um thank you um so we can move through
this board and committee conference
reports do we have
brief updates
um anything burning our governmental is
canceled this month see us in may
excellent thank you for your brevity
there
um director greene
nothing to report at this time
director scott
director broome edwards
there's a policy committee meeting
tomorrow and i would just flag for board
members that we're going to be
discussing the climate crisis committee
application and charter so um
that we come to the board but
we're looking for people to send that
out and then
second um while we have the calendar
vote later on to
tonight
there'll be a discussion about the issue
that director constant the students and
the student representative
raised at the last uh committee meeting
oh sorry the last board meeting
all right um director hollins did you
have a report on facilities and
operations
uh yeah so
um the
recommendation for the sports facilities
with the partnership with parks was the
main one that we talked about
at the facilities and operations
committee
we had a update on modernization
um reports as well that was
excellent thank you um director constant
anything for audit no report
all right
um thank you everyone for your brevity
um we're now going to move to the
resolution to approve the school
district calendar
will vote on the
2022-23 school year calendar
at our last meeting we heard public
testimony from three students at ida b
wells barnett high school to consider a
change in practice to assure that
we are inclusive of the diversity of
students and the religious holidays and
cultural events they observe
and are requesting that the district
avoids conflicts for students to the
best of its abilities so that students
do not have to make tough choices
between school and religious observances
and that was a very long sentence i'm
not sure who read the wrote that
um it wasn't die
yes it was it was hard
tonight i propose that we
that was a long sentence
no no criticism there just long
um so tonight i propose that we move
forward adopting a calendar for the
upcoming school year so that families
can begin making plans and allow for
more the more thoughtful discussion to
be worked through at the board's policy
committee i believe the policy committee
chair um brim edwards has already placed
this on the agenda for tomorrow's
meeting as she mentioned
and um so i'm gonna ask now if i have a
motion and a second to adopt resolution
6487 that's the resolution to approve
the 2022-23 school district calendar so
moved second
director green moves director com stem
seconds the adoption of resolution 6487.
is there any board discussion
just briefly i want to did you were you
not finished i was um going to i'm
trying to change my practice so that we
hear from the student representative
first and adult second um
just for that
it's not performative it's really to to
inform
the adults in the room um on the student
perspective so
yeah my only comment is i appreciate
that we're actually moving forward on
the
um
talking about the calendar and willing
to go through an engagement process
instead of kind of just making the
decision up here
um
without further engagement about what
religious or cultural observances are we
putting on there what exactly are we
going to do with this either resolution
or policy saying like what is not
allowed or what is discouraged during
those days
and then what it looks like for students
who end up missing those days
makeup work
tests
after school sporting events and all
that so i appreciate that
i just want to add uh we kind of arrived
02h 05m 00s
at the path of
going to the policy committee for that
under the leadership through the
leadership of jackson and oscar calvert
and xander levine who are really going
to take the lead on this issue in terms
of addressing
how the calendar
might have notations around
other special days of observances that
won't affect the instructional hours or
the days of the year that kids are in
school so i want to thank our student
leaders for that and thank liz large for
helping us chart the path and we're good
to go
and i'm very enthusiastic about
addressing the issue too understanding
that we have a broad diversity of
cultural
traditions
and requirements from shabbat to ramadan
and
are addressing those issues will help us
attract student uh staff and
administrators as well teachers included
that want to be able to you know show up
as theirs as their full selves
without fear of losing their their
positions or whatever
so ms bradshaw is there any public
comment no any additional um discussion
um i wanted to
thank the staff for their willingness to
i look at that this for next year um
just as i mentioned at the last meeting
this has been a perennial issue for the
last two decades and um
i'm glad we didn't just say we'll
we'll do it next we'll do it next year
but we'll take some tentative steps
because i think that's really important
um
to to move ahead now and to do it um
thoughtfully
i also um am appreciative that there's
an openness to look at actually having
the dates on on the calendar some
mechanism that more than just the
principal gets the information because
as we all as we all know as active
school community members lots of people
schedule things individual teachers
coaches
external parties and i really think we
we need to make sure that
um
for for it to actually um have its
intended impact that it needs to be sort
of anchored into
the
the base the base calendar so i i want
to just
thank all parties for being open to
having the discussion this year versus
waiting till
wait until next year
and i'm going to support the calendar
this year based on that
thank you the board will now vote on um
resolution
6487
resolution to approve
i apologize no worries um have a quick
question so the calendar we are voting
on now
i want to make sure i'm
asking the right question
if this if the calendar changes for any
reason do we go back and
change it or
is this what it's going to be for 2022
2023
i think that we're proposing that in the
policy committee that we if that if we
do come up with changes that we would
adopt them next year
is that correct so and this is
my interpretation is that sort of the
first and from talking to the students
or communicating with the students who
are here last meeting is that
it wouldn't actually add no school days
but that it might impact
what can be scheduled and then how
students who may be absent
how
how those are treated so it wouldn't
actually impact the
additional calendar day or the school
year is extended or anything like that
for this next year but it will be
primarily focused on making clear like
this is not a day that you should be
scheduling you know a final exam or the
start of school or things like that yeah
and depending on when we end up like
coming to a decision it might be closer
to the start of the school year stuff
started getting planned so we might at
that point need to have a grace period
just because stuff has already started
being planned um but i hope that we're
not like waiting until like 12 months
from today to do anything no i i think
that there's a way to kind of feather in
i mean at least
put markers
on the calendar for next year
and if there has to be if if the
following year we would need to uh
put those markers down and then add
conditions
um but yeah i think i i think we're
we're we're solving in the moment
and the the um sort of superstitious
part of me when you ask that question
director hollins about changing the
calendar you know we got an extra week
of spring break in 2020
uh because the governor shut down
schools so the calendar can change due
to forces beyond our control
so i just want to name that because i
feel like not naming it opens us up for
the possibility that's my superstitious
scl days like just this year even so
right yeah and there's the social
emotional learning days we also had a
02h 10m 00s
snow day so
um that's built in but there are factors
um that might
impact the calendar beyond uh that
wouldn't necessarily require a vote from
the board like the governor shutting
down schools
good point um planned parenthood of
columbia willamette has an amazing and
very inclusive um annual calendar that
has uh it's got every you know trans day
of remembrance it's got
ramadan it's got you know ev everything
so
if you want that for reference um take a
look at that so we're gonna vote now on
the resolution to approve the 2020
2022-2023 school district calendar all
in favor please indicate by saying yes
yes
yes
all those opposed please indicate by
saying no
are there any abstentions
resolution 6487 is approved by a vote of
7-0 with student representative weinberg
voting yes
i just want to thank our students on the
dsc and also the students who spoke for
their advocacy
thank you
noted
okay i believe our final um our final
topic is a resolution to recognize
juneteenth as a paid holiday for
non-representative non-representative
employees non-represented employees
uh deputy superintendent hertz can you
please introduce this item
be happy to do so director
excuse me chair to pass
as you know last year on june 17th
president biden signed a bill approving
juneteenth
juneteenth as a federal holiday
and on june 19th governor brown signed a
bill recognizing juneteenth as a state
holiday so as per board policy in order
for the district to make this a paid
holiday for non-represented employees
the board must approve by resolution
thank you um so do i have a motion and a
second to adopt resolution 6477
resolution to recognize juneteenth as a
paid holiday for non-represented
employees so moved second okay i think
all the black people was ready to move
that one
i'm waiting for the nose um
is there any more discussion on the
holiday that can't be answered in an
email
yes because i haven't i'm being a little
facetious maybe a technical question
the title of this is for non-represented
employees but it actually
might include some represented employees
who are working during that day is that
correct
so i don't know if we need a title
change um no there there's there's no
non-represented employees who would
there's no represented employees who
would get this
it's just a different mechanism so
uh our
pfs this began uh with an ask from the
pfsp
team
uh and in the successor contract
uh pfsp we had to negotiate with pfsp to
add this holiday um for their workforce
so
the mechanism for other other than non
other than represented i'm circling
sorry it's late i'm tired
um our non-represented
uh process for adding holidays is board
resolution
uh otherwise it is voted by on by the
board in a cba ratifying a cba
pfsp
uh dcu
and sciu all have it reflected either
through memoranda of understanding or in
their collective bargaining agreements
yes so this would be the
last group whose work year is over the
19th
uh well there there might be situations
where it might be in some of our pt
members
uh work years
and of course we have an open contract
with pet so
we'll be uh addressing that
yeah
and maybe this can be addressed later
but it seems like if we have a holiday
whoever's working
there like that would be yes i mean so
this is the last group for this year
right uh who
uh
where we need uh approval to move
forward that's what my question was so
every other group has it in their cba or
through a memorandum of understanding
with the bargaining unit yes
i know we don't often add holidays as
looking back the last of my ad holidays
but it does seem strange that it's if we
have a holiday for the district that it
would be like you have to
bargain it
any benefit you have to uh the
requirements are that you bargain any
benefit even if it is even if you're
just gonna
yes okay
yes okay
yes okay and the last holiday that was
approved was martin luther king
02h 15m 00s
so i just want to clarify because i'm
hearing two different things okay and
that is on pat we have we're about to
open their contract for bargaining and
right now
it's not in place for that group is that
correct this year
it does not impact their members because
the school year does not go over okay
and there's june and there's no this
year would be june 20th there's no pa
team members that would work on that day
so
this is not the mechanism so a board
resolution is not the mechanism
yes but i think i just heard director
brent edwards say this was and that is
bargaining that's negotiations so you're
saying there may be people if we're not
done bargaining who
wouldn't have this is uh
no wait uh
no sorry i know we don't do this very
often so i'm just trying to understand
how it works
we are not going to have a situation
where we don't offer the holiday to
people who are working in this year
thank you thank you
thank you um sharon i appreciate that
ms bradford is there any is there any
public comment about this
no okay
so the board will now vote
i'm sorry have we already voted on
resolution 648-7 okay so the board will
now vote on resolution 6487
that's
i'm sorry
it's
i'm looking at the wrong number six four
seven six four seven seven
thank you
um we'll we'll vote on six four seven
seven
um resolution to recognize juneteenth as
a paid holiday for non-represented
employees all in favor please indicate
by saying yes
yes
yes i'll oppose please indicate by
saying no
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and are there any abstentions and i vote
yes too i think i forget failed to say
that so resolution six four seven seven
is approved by a vote of uh seven to
zero with student representative
weinberg voting yes
okay
i believe that concludes our business
for the evening
we pulled stuff from the kids oh i'm so
sorry i am yes we do have the
it's 6 4 i thank you it's 6 4
8 4 and then the expenditure contract
for education resource strategies i'm
not eager to leave
um
neither am i well i'm close
so director scott you wanted to pull
yeah
i'm uh i'm eager to leave so i'll be
quick um
no i wanted to to pull this resolution
and and i think do we have um uh ms
brennan available virtually
um
and and i just i wanted to just just ask
a couple questions on the record and so
and i will admit this is my third year i
think approving this this um resolution
i i am going to vote in in favor of this
but i do think it was worth just having
a a very quick board discussion about i
did um as we heard testimony earlier i
did meet with um a group of parents um
who are a little bit frustrated you know
by the policy and and and you know from
their perspective again you heard in
their testimony the question is
because pps allows
up to 100 students um to transfer in and
there are other reasons why students
transfer in and out that are allowed
under state law but we have discretion
to make this decision we do allow up to
100 students to transfer in they're
essentially asking why don't we um
simultaneously allow up to 100 students
to transfer out
and you know i think they're they're um
there are lots of different reasons why
families students and families might
choose to to want to leave the district
um and and i think there are and in
talking to ms brennan earlier today um
there are some really good sort of
policy rationales for this and i just
again i know it's late so we don't need
to talk long about it um but i think
just just if if you wouldn't mind giving
a really brief overview of
why we do sort of allow those students
in um and and how that serves the
programmatic needs of pbs i think that
would be beneficial
thank you director scott
and uh just
just want to make sure is my audio
working it is yeah yes thank you
can you hear us
we can hear you are you able to hear us
let me take that as a no
sorry i'm not sure if i'm uh
we can hear you
okay um
i
lost uh
okay there we are i think uh i now have
sorry for that technical pledge can you
hear us
can you hear us
i can hear you now yeah thank you sorry
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for that problem um so this is the uh
time of year when um districts uh each
district approves their plan for
transfers between school districts so
this is an annual duty of the board
and the staff recommendation
to develop the plan every year we look
both at what the the general strategy is
for transfers across pps schools and
then try and apply those um
the same theories to drive our decisions
for students who are coming in from
other districts or who are requesting to
leave
pbs to go to other districts we also
have to follow a pretty stringent set of
state laws around this
so
specifically regarding um
general transfers of students in or out
of pbs
what we have identified and you'll see
in your packet
is that
the demographics of students who come
into vps from other districts
do not
fully mirror the the general district in
that it's higher percentages of students
of color higher percentages of students
who speak spanish at home
what we know anecdotally is that these
are more likely to be students who've
been impacted by gentrification
and the ability to remain in pbs to
finish at their current school provides
a vital stability for these students
we also know that because of the nature
of the state laws the only mechanism
that we have for allowing students who
live in other districts to access
our language immersion programs which
are not available everywhere
and allow students to access
instruction in their home language
like our russian immersion program and
our vietnamese immersion program the
standard inner district transfer in is
the only mechanism for doing so
and then finally
it is our only mechanism in place at
this time to allow students who have
been displaced from portland to return
to albina schools for black students
whose families are no longer a resident
in our district but who live near in
other districts
to attend some of the only majority
black schools in the entire state
so
these are
priority programs and initiatives of our
district and the standard inner district
transfer that general transfer in
is the primary mechanism for achieving
that
we don't know of
any similar
programmatic or equity-based um
initiatives
that are parallel for students going
from pbs to other districts
if there were so and um we're open to
exploring
reasons to release students that have to
do
are that have a similar equity focus
as the reasons that we give for student
that i just
articulated for students coming in
further because we allow a lot of
transfer in pbs
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we allow students to move through our
lottery we have many district options
but when it comes time to transfer
between neighborhood schools
we look for a reason
we want it to be a substantiated
hardship need
and not just general interest and so
that's another reason why we don't
promote transfers out of pbs unless
there's a reason that falls within the
state's hardship definition
great
thank you i really appreciate that and
just to sort of summarize um because
again i think it it's exactly what we
want to be doing as a district is is
looking at what is our vision what is
our goal and i think what i'm hearing
from staff is there are very good
programmatic reasons that benefit the
students that transfer in in the
district overall for allowing those um
there there are fewer reasons why we
would allow students to transfer out i
do want to express i understand the
frustration of the families and from a
funding standpoint if they choose to
leave the district and have to pay
tuition
once they've done that pps doesn't
retain that state funding and nor does
the new district get it in fact it stays
with the state school fund and then gets
redistributed statewide so i can
understand from their perspective
they're sort of saying if you just
release my student i won't have to pay
tuition that money stays in in the local
area as a pbs school board member what i
explain to them is i have to think about
the impact of these policies while i i
completely understand where they're
coming from and see that frustration i
don't want to
you know pass any policies or make any
changes that would encourage
more students or as you said make it
easier for students to transfer out of
the district than we even allow in terms
of inner district transfer so um again i
i can understand that the frustration of
the families but i think staff
you know have thought through this very
well and i'm going to support the
resolution moving forward thank you
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i i also wanted to just appreciate you
for articulating um those strong
compelling reasons for
allowing the
russian vietnamese spanish and black
students to transfer in
due to gentrification
access to language programs and things
that we know that will help our students
of color succeed
so i really appreciate that and i also
appreciate your articulation of the
reasons we wouldn't
allow
we would want to apply similar equity
considerations for transfers out and
want to see that there's a substantiated
hardship
so i just want to appreciate you and let
you know i'm also i'm going to be in
favor of of uh the staff
recommendation i'm sure
just a question um about the
uh
just the change um and again i think
just i'm gonna support this uh but also
want to
just make visible if we um
between uh 2016 to 2018 we had a
different policy was that did we change
because there was a change in law or
just this change in practice at pbs
uh yes i can address that so
the state
changed laws in 2014 and 2015.
there were
administrative regulations
that came down from ode that was
late in 2016 so it didn't affect our
2016
practice our 2016 plan
but what we learned later was that we we
weren't actually fully in compliance
with our 2016 plan for example
we allowed
students who were already enrolled in a
school to be considered eligible for
priority transfer as it's defined under
state law
when in fact
ode clarified for us in 2017 that
you only
can
uh you can only be eligible for that
priority if you were attending the that
other district before and you moved into
our district
so what had happened is there were
families who had enrolled in a district
um as tuition paying families and then
applied
and it for that one brief year received
priority because they were already
enrolled we didn't fully understand that
um it's only limited
to students who were enrolled and moved
into our district not just we're
attending as our residents but on
tuition
so we um corrected the plan in the in
the future years
and um and we understand that there were
families who were looking forward to
that rule being um continuing
but indeed um our guidance was that it
was not compliant with the language
that's in state law and then it also
doesn't um
doesn't match the broader district goals
that we just described
great thank you i think there's it's
always a value to share when when we've
had to make changes or we've made
changes based on just the evolving
regulatory or state law thank you
is there any additional comment
um before we vote on the resolution on
resolution 6484 that's the resolution to
approve the staff recommendation for
inner district transfers
all in favor please
i'm sorry we need emotions
whoa
i just wanted to be second because see
andrew had already
so i just wanted to make sure that we
were clear on that
that was that was slick um so so we have
a motion by director scott in a second
by director green
to approve the staff recommendation for
inner district transfers all those in
favor please indicate by saying yes yes
yes
all opposed please indicate by saying no
are there any abstentions
resolution 6484 is approved by a vote of
7-0 with student representative weinberg
unofficially voting yes
great
and we have one final item
and that is
the expenditure contract for educational
resource strategies there's a 743 000
contract for
developing a strategic resource analysis
and plan is that separate from the
budget or
i'm just curious if it's new or what
what is it
where does it live
yeah so um it's it's part of our current
budget
and it's uh
in-depth analysis regarding how we use
our resources
so people time and money across our
school system as we start doing a deep
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dive into assessing
how our
opportunities
whether it's how we distribute funds to
school so some of the conversations that
we've had is around like how do we
allocate resources to school to support
our specific strategies
so that's an example of some of the
information we can
obtain from ers ers i probably should
have taken a step back ers is a national
nonprofit organization that's worked
across
various uh school districts districts
across the country
uh large urban districts whether it's
chicago philadelphia boston la unified
and they do in-depth analysis
to really give us insights into
where are our resources going in respect
to our new strategic plan how does that
benchmark against other districts that
are following similar
um
strategies or exploring uh some of the
opportunities to re uh assess how
funding is managed whether it's at a
school site whether it's taking a look
at a staffing formula and how is that
staffing formula supporting core
requirements how are then the core
requirements
being
invested in to support the instructional
uh framework so it's pieces uh all of
these all these pieces come into play to
support the broader instructional
framework when we look across all of our
resources
and try to get into this like clean look
as
how are we spending now in relation to
our strategic plan how does that then
compare to other districts or pursuing
similar
investments but then the uniqueness of
our circumstances as we look to roll out
our instructional framework how are we
going to find the resources to continue
to support that
scale it over the next few years
you said it's currently in place but it
looks like it's a new contract unless
i'm reading it i incorrectly when i said
currently in place i meant for it is a
new contract i'm it's uh in place for
this year
and so this is
so we already have it we this is or no
no sorry yeah so we do not it's new okay
just
thank you
and then second um
like how would the public see what
irresist totally to inform like staff
staff thinking i mean it's just a large
amount so i'm i'm curious yeah it seems
like so as you describe it it would be
yeah there would
yeah there would be artifacts generated
from this inclusive reports
that uh we can
that would not just help inform us but
also help inform how we engage with
our
term i'm coining thinking about is like
our annual planning process and
engagement in the different work streams
whether it's community engagement how we
work with our school leaders how we work
across departments so this would then
feed into that and and
by default we would naturally be able to
see the results uh to uh
particularly school sites and our
departments and so
i i
i'd be excited as we get through this
process to also be able to share a
report of like what are some of the
opportunities we can consider because
this isn't just for
next year this is to really set the
foundation for long-term sustainability
when we think about or all the amazing
things we want to do
and then just how are we
ensuring that we're investing in all the
right things
thank you
i had a really quick question
my question was so
with understanding about where the money
is going does that also tie back to the
effectiveness um so kind of like
performance outcomes like how effective
is what we're spending money on
um does this analysis allow us to see
that that would be part of it yes so for
example how are we investing our
resources in
specific subgroups of our population and
then how does that tie into we want to
see it won't get into
analyzing or making determinations of
the outcomes but it'll help raise
awareness regarding how our funding our
resources being spent as effective as
possible so like what are the outcomes
of the spending but not whether
yeah so it's like what are the outcomes
on the spending now it's up to us the
board
to determine whether those are the
outcomes we desire thank you
so ultimately it's very helpful to us
yes
thank you chief del gadio i
i appreciate your comments tonight and
director brim edwards we spent in
director comstown we spent years working
with the secretary of state and this
would also help us with one of their
recommendations on the national
benchmarking that we um yeah i was
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going to say something yes
about that but thank you for putting
that out appreciate that um in terms of
process then are we then just voting on
resolution 6480
when
okay so i'll make a motion to approve
the contract i'll second andrew's motion
this is a pattern and i have a question
yes
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i'm just trying to understand so it's
i try to keep stuff like basic so this
kind of like a audit internal audit of
what we're spending our money on our
it's just tied to the teaching plan
strategic resource audit
so how much of this
could be done internally versus
contracted out
not much
um partly because we don't have the
capacity to do that we don't um we don't
have enough people to then take on this
work above the baseline work that we do
but the additional critical component to
that is the benchmarking against other
districts we don't have access to all
the data so all of these other districts
whether it's dallas isd
palm beach they've participated and have
gone through similar processes like this
and so ers has like all of their data
and so we can benchmark and so when we
have questions
when we look across our our spending at
the central office when we look across
spending at school sites like how did
how does that stack up against other
comparable districts that are trying to
do the same work we're doing
could we hire i'm looking at the number
of the amount could we hire a couple
folks or
i'm looking at this budget a few folks
we should do this work and still save
money from
we could always hire but we would not
get the same caliber or have this be
able to find the same skill set to
perform this
but then we'd also be
it would be the skill set with
access to all the backend data that we
don't have access to so these are
nationally renowned experts
in this field i get that yeah i get that
part you know just i guess i'm looking
at the number of the
dollar amount of number and we just
seen our nutritional services and our
janitors and stuff and you know we're
spending 743 or 850 000 dollars for a
report
um that it just doesn't fit necessarily
well
to where to to look at our effectiveness
when i'm thinking that the quality of
people that we're hiring
and the
in this talent that the the
folks that we're hiring
could could potentially do some of this
work and you know you're saying we don't
have the expertise but they have the
expertise to hire and do this work and
i'm just i'm sure it's going to be at a
less amount that we're paying out for
this so i just that just kind of just
doesn't sit well with me when we're
sending out this money for a report
unless that is going to directly affect
one our kids and our kids outcomes which
i didn't hear that it really affects how
our kids are performing in the classroom
which we're here for
to
how does that help like with our budget
gaps
when we're spending almost over it it
will help inform us
where we need to be shifting where are
some of the considerations we need to be
shifting our resources to support the
student outcomes we want to see but
don't we know that already because
that's part of the
strategic plan and some of the
initiative that superintendent has been
talking about as far as shifting
resources to
schools or
you know places where it needs to be
done at so i guess it just seems like
it's redundant that we're going to have
someone tell us the same stuff that we
already know
it's more than than a report it's a
process they lead a process in the
district they'll engage many of us
including the board including you know
senior leadership
they will i don't have all the steps
in front of me this evening but it is a
process that goes over
set more than one fiscal year and it
will help guide us
to really look at how our resources are
being spent now and what we
need to what we need to adjust in order
to
be able to realize all
right now we don't if we wanted to do
our complete strategic plan we don't
have the resources to do that so how do
we have the conversation
with our
internal staff our community our our
board
about what what are the right places to
go to get to where we want to be
so
i guess i would need more information
i think i would need more information on
what that process looked like to warn
the amount of money we're spending
because what they're telling me seems
like it was told to us before as far as
like what our audits you know we have
our audits and it's and some of the
things that we're talking about as far
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as you know where we're supposed to put
our funds at and how we support our kids
we i seem like i've heard that argument
before and now i see i'm like hearing
that same argument again just from a
nationally renowned
organization to do that same stuff that
i've already seemed like i've already
heard so i guess for me i just really
want to know what we're actually getting
that's going to benefit one of our kids
first um and then the district second
before i can support something like this
just so i know what that is because
they're saying oh we're going to give
850 000 to me it seems like another
audit whether it's a more detailed on it
or what have you it just seems like it's
another audit
can i ask a question it sounds like some
board members have some questions uh is
there urgency to the approval of this
contract at this board meeting versus
holding it over there there is and just
from the perspective of being able to
start collecting the data that takes
three to four months to start going
through and combing the data because
ultimately we will get to an action plan
that will then help they would also uh
ers would also support us through this
process with
as superintendent superintendent hertz
was sharing that would involve
additional
supports designing helping to design
additional tools
and
in preparation as we get into next
fiscal year so the idea is to ramp up
over the summer
with collecting data
and so
the sooner we can start the better but
obviously you know uh want to be
responsive
we hope to have this and work far enough
along so that as we are budgeting for
2324
we have the data and the process has
been
been
brought along far enough to be um to
inform the following year's budget so
and it is a multi-year
shift over time it sounds to me like a
big part of what this is about and tell
me if i'm wrong is about really decoding
a lot of the inputs that we have and
connecting them to the outcomes that
we're looking for because right now we
don't have a good way to map
where our resources are being allocated
relative to the academic outcomes that
we're looking for in our kids and to be
able to track those metrics which is
something we as a board are interested
in
and to me it sounds like that's a big
part of what this exercise is
that's one of the big components and
then the subsequent component to that
would be then the
what do we what what are then our
considerations to then implement or
changes we'd like to see when we look at
our resources i i think i understand the
frustration about you know this is a
it's a big dollar contract and saying
you know is it is it um
is it going to create an impact but i
think in our in our state audit one of
the findings was that there were all
these um
initiatives it was like an initiative
overload and we we weren't really
measuring you know we are trying this
and trying that in a not in a very
coordinated way and so to me
what i understand is this contract
allows us to
align our the inputs and the activities
that we're doing with our the outcomes
that we want to see and it's a long
process it's i mean it
i don't know who has the time for this
either like this is a it's a long-term
change uh
it's a long-term change change
management which um we're not going to
see the you know the on-the-ground
benefit for some time but it's important
to
it's important to understand um which of
these initiatives
that we that we put forth and that we
implement are actually creating the
change we want to see and if we don't
have that investigation then we're still
just throwing out
you know one thing after the next and
moving people around and it's it's
creating the same outcomes
which are not positive outcomes for the
kids so i guess my question then would
be what have we been doing
are we just being
spending money without programs and math
programs and no i understand what you're
saying but going by what you're saying
at least what i hear is that you're
saying
we've been spending money and we haven't
really paid attention to how we were
spending it what we're spending it on
and now this is going to kind of tell us
what that is and where we need to shift
maybe if i'm wrong but we really just
adopted our strategic plan and at the
beginning of the pandemic so this is
yeah in june 2021 was when the strategic
plan was adopted and so we now think
about what the strategic plan lays out
the four themes the strategic outcomes
how does that what's a through line with
our board goals it's like how how are w
what is the allocation of our resources
right now
what's the gap
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to get to that
and then like the second phase right
because that's a data that's a discovery
that's the analysis and the second part
of like what are then the pieces that we
need to be putting in place or having
conversations about to put us in a place
to
shift those resources
not just for next year but then like how
does this lay over the long term of the
district's health when it just comes to
both our finances but then our our duty
to our
our students and and the outcomes
so when the i wasn't here for the win
the strategic plan was brought forth so
when when the strategic plan was brought
forth did it have a financial impact
that went along with that so we can see
well hey i'm proposing this this is what
i'm expecting it's going to cost so i
guess i guess when i see a strategic
plan normally it comes with some kind of
financial impact
and it has the data and stuff that
you're talking about attached to it and
then usually after it goes for so long
you come back and assess what how that
how that worked i i'll defer to
i'd have not seen one because that was
also before my time so just kind of
seeing the the creation of that to where
we are now i i think uh and correct me
if i'm wrong
that when we arrived to our strategic
plan there there wasn't then like the
the the
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and so like a price tag associated with
it and but we know that we have our
existing resources we have a strategic
plan that was uh built up with
a lot of community input and this is
what you know as a board we put our
stake on the ground this is what we want
to accomplish so now then it's assessing
okay what are the resources we have
available how are we investing those
right now we have a general idea but
then benchmarking because like we may be
thinking about it in a certain way
that then it's like well that's
that you should be considering some
other opportunities or a different way
and then
how do we then execute on that
i think it's also not only the secretary
of state's audit but also like
consistent reports from the cbrc saying
like we have all these initiatives is
what we're spending money on for these
initiatives for the goals that we have
laid out is it effective that these are
the strategies we should be using
so that's kind of what i see coming out
of this that's one component is thinking
about like the academic return on
investment and and that right you need
several
some data to then assess and so that
would be okay what have we what outcomes
have we received based on what we've
been doing but then also
we know that our strategic plan are
forward together this is where we want
to go
so
what what is the gap from what we're
doing now
to where we want to go and what are then
some of the key decisions we need to be
thinking about
to to repurpose reallocate advocate for
additional funding whatever the case may
be
to then put us in that direction and i'm
wondering if some of this might be also
like thinking about how do we depl so
what i'm hearing when you say we're
going to look at our resources and think
about how we deploy them to get to the
outcomes we've said we want is looking
at our structuring you know everybody
who's come before us about the budget
has said get rid of administrators
but you know we we really need our
administrators to do things like plan
the budget and catch the fraud and
resource the teachers and plan the pd
and advocate for our spread students but
i think this is also an opportunity to
say are we
how are how are we deploying our
resources efficiently to do all the
things the school district needs to do
and can we make cuts in administration
can we show up a certain segment that we
have we've maybe been under funding and
that's trickled down to the classroom
and that students are getting supports
in these different ways
um and so that's what i'm hearing when i
hear this is it's going to be sort of
this global view on
how are we arranged how are we using our
resources and
is it actually the best from an
objective viewpoint rather than
it it feels like it's working
that's kind of what my yeah is what this
is it's that and
to put in a very like just example you
know we have our equity formula
and and so like how does our equity
formula stack up across the school
district what would it look like if we
wanted to increase that or change it um
like what are then those uh i don't like
to use this word trade-offs
to assess or or to advocate because we
feel that hey we want our funding
formula to be more equitably driven
what would that design look like what
would be some of the considerations
sources take into account because we
know that if we then fund schools
accordingly more equitably then we can
push
the outcome we can push towards the
outcomes we want to see so these are
some of the considerations that we'd be
exploring
over the course of the next few months
so that
when we get to next year's budget so i
know we're just starting or we're just
talking about you know next week we'll
be talking about next year's budget but
it's like what is the through line the
long-term sustainability through line
okay i have to say last two things and
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i'm done um
so
one thing is because like i said i asked
the question i haven't got an answer as
far as when the strategic plan was put
forward was there a financial impact
with that to go along with the strategic
plan um
no we did not have dollar amounts on the
strategic plan okay so now so we didn't
have a baseline so now we're going back
to basically trying to get a baseline
for what the strategic plan and how we
can accomplish that that's what this is
for we had actually hoped to bring these
folks in last fall but if
the the two variants kind of
our focus changed again back to the
pandemic
and we had hoped to start much sooner
than this so we really hoped to inform
this year's budget but because of the
two variants that came through and we
really had to
focus on just staff and student safety
and keeping people educated right and
keeping education services going okay
and then the second thing right the
second thing and the last thing is i
guess for me i would just really would
like to see what this entails
um
you know data wise what they're
collecting how it's going to be
disaggregated how it's going to be you
know that's what i would want to see as
well they can share much more and i
think one of the most valuable things is
their interactions with large urban dish
school districts public school districts
across the country or even sure
you can even share the rfp that they've
started i'm similar they submitted uh
yeah the whole complex happy to share
that with you
yeah i think the um the fact that we're
comparing with sister districts is going
to be really valuable because we'll be
able of those urban districts will be
able to know which ones are successful
or more successful at student outcomes
and
starting from scratch with that to pay
someone to collect data from those
different districts
um i think is going to cost more than
just having somebody that's done it
already has they have a dashboard
already so
so speaking of that i just want to make
clear what we're vote what we're voting
on so the 750
is for this
april 20th to
march 31st of next year and there's an
option to renew
and it says the total through renewals
is 8.50
but so i'm we're paying a huge
amount up front and then the add-on is
that two-year renewals is just another
hundred thousand mm-hmm or am i reading
this
that's how it looks like on the yeah so
yeah to clarify that it it would be if
there were um
the add-on would be just
a hundred thousand dollars
if whether it's for
uh if it happens to be two years or if
it happens to be two months if any sort
of additional work that may stem out of
this if there's
like
so the baby's there's here is
750 that gives us the base of the
dashboard or whatever the thing is and
then
the it's just a hundred thousand total
it's not going to be another 750 the
following
if it turned out we would be here having
a conversation uh if there was
additional layers or fake net layers
phases of work that stemmed out of this
that there was uh interest and and
additional conversations um that we want
to have we would have we would bring
that to to the board but then the
renewals don't come back to they'll come
back to us
and
do no i don't think so no not at a and
it would be capped at a hundred thousand
dollars so if it was anything more than
850 we'd get back but staff would do the
just the renewal
and the 700 and 700 some thousands for
one year correct
well we
we have a motion on the table to
adopt uh
resolution six four eight zero
expenditure contracts
including
yes
just thank you so the motion on the
table is to approve just this contract
uh with education resource strategies
um
director scott moved and director green
seconded it but we're ready for a vote
now
thank you
will now vote on
it's not the resolution it's contract
number 91415
education resource strategies
all those in favor
please indicate by saying yes yes yes
yes
all those opposed please indicate by
saying no
no no no
are there any abstentions
the
motion passes by a vote of four to three
in favor and
02h 55m 00s
student representative weinberg
yes
thank you all
um
i believe that that is our final
business for this evening thank you
steph for staying so late
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