2022-01-19 PPS School Board Facilities and Operations Committee Meeting

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Date 2022-01-19
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Event 1: 1/19/22 PPS Board of Education’s Facilities and Operations Committee

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introductions oh let's start on my right terry terry i gonna be you hi i'm terry proctor communications department uh handling the live stream for the public today thank you i'm excited to see you soon today i only have the board accountability committee update and i will always keep my innovation update um our ada this implants update and then we have the different site segmentation accountability committee i will i'll be quick we have uh tom peterson from the bond accountability committee who is here to do the quarterly update uh based upon uh presentation and information right in my step over time i'm ready but i don't have a presentation [Laughter] hopefully you've all received the reports that i submitted um two things i want to say a product one are unfortunately this is a not a quarterly updated today semi-annual update on february because of certain fancy surrounding uh meetings in the fall we didn't really it didn't really work out very well to do a quarterly update in uh october might be a hope primarily due to the fact that benson was still and unknown and uh we were thinking we were gonna know more in october and that didn't happen and so well anyway so this is the report for the last six months i guess uh secondly uh you may have noticed a change in the reporting format that's thanks to mr amount here he suggested a different approach which we all i actually liked much better because it ties us better to what our our mission is or what our our uh what we're required to uh oversee in our chart so uh so anyway so i'm just gonna tuck down a few points uh in the report and uh and i have a few other comments on the chairs yet so so first off uh we are asked to determine whether the bond revenues are expended only for the purposes of which they were approved and uh based on all materials for the the area and the areas of the program that we reviewed this last quarter which was the modernization projects and the health and safety program where our primary focus sort of other aspects we didn't look at at this moment so for those those items uh it appears that they're doing what they said they were going to do or what you said you were going to do and so it doesn't seem to be any issues there sorry is that a legal standard or is that a our own standard sorry i i think it's it's um what's in the chart and so so what we're trying to do is make sure our report is alignment with what our primary duties are in the charter providence and one of them is to provide some level of oversight on are they bond uh funding being expanded for what was in the bond program and there was no evidence to say yes if that hasn't happened you know that was happening um uh the other one has to do with the budget
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obviously that's always a big area of focus for the committee and doing well i would say overall the budget is sufficient though it's not without some challenges we've had these last uh six months benson in particular uh so we get a status backward in terms of trying to understand what uh what the full implications are uh related to the to the budget uh and based on the the um presentation that we shared with participating with you you know it fears that there's sufficient funding within the 2017 and the 2020 bond to make up for the the overruns there's still a little bit of confusion because of the way they report to us as to how what everything looks like but overall i would say it's fair to say that there's sufficient money to complete uh those projects and part of that is based on i would say a very generous program contingency in 2021 as well as some interest earnings dependence of potential uh bond uh gradient proceeds that will have offsets on the cause however uh in light of what's happened we do feel it would be prudent to take a look and never look at all the assumptions uh in the 2020 bond we really haven't dived into that far so ever since the other ones just to make sure we don't have another surprise like we see in the dancing but all in all i think financially the budget looks pretty good for for the other item that we're supposed to comment on is uh does the work meet the scope of the work us book of work stuff by in the blog and as i mentioned we looked at the modernization by mixing health and safety so no problems there similarly are they being delivered on schedule and again uh and this is this is actually really remarkable in light of what's been going on and all the challenges that that osm has been dealing with that they were still able to deliver these major projects this last year and um so yeah schedule is doing well they're they're doing a great job of trying to mitigate those risks and be proactive and that's offered to achievements and how thus far uh we also uh time to time review annual performance audits and financial audit reports we actually reviewed the the performance audits he shared with you primarily focused on his uncertainty and um we're pretty much in agreement that you know most of the findings that all the findings there are things that we should pursue uh business equity has always been a ongoing discussion um in our in our meetings uh we focus on that quite a bit and um we recognize that there may be as the audit suggested some other ways of matter measuring performance besides just the target pull there's other ways of showing that you're trying to meet those goals uh like number of contracts and you know based on the presentation we saw last summer uh what the district is doing they are doing a lot to try to leave the phone it doesn't always work out when it's not for a lap and trying and a commitment on this during staff to try to use them but when you only have one hard target it makes it harder to defend when you're not meeting that target like once a kanichi with my co-chair she has a pretty good perspective and that she she's interested in you know what's the outreach like are they really trying their best as opposed to just uh what are the numbers and i think we've seen in the past when we've had sit down discussions with contractors some cases where they where we didn't feel they were hitting their targets we've actually they've actually come and presented to us the past
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and those were helpful because if they one they understood that we're just as committed about making sure the district is successful meeting those goals as the district is uh but it also helped us understand what they're doing or what they're not doing uh to try to achieve them well so more more conversation than that i think it's helpful uh we also provide feedback on other items time to time uh the business equity performance obviously was a topic that we talked about pretty regularly and and then we had some special presentations however some of the other goals uh how the programs are meeting long-range facility goals uh ada's most so those aren't as obvious but oftentimes in the reports we get for for folks like myself who've been around here a long time and i've seen the tribe because the evolve i have some kind of understanding of how those how those may have been addressed but a lot of the newer members came on board after the designs were done and they were all in construction so they don't have a good sense of how well those other objectives are being met and so i think that's an area where we're thinking we need to make sure for the for the newer newer members that don't have that background or experience that we make sure what we're reporting out we talk about or highlights how some of these projects may be achieving some of the better so that's something we've suggested uh going forward uh i have a few general comments um this was a an interesting year uh one i ended up somehow being chair because i had no intentions of doing the start of the year uh but it's been uh but it's been fun and challenging reinvigorated by interest uh after having served already in your nine years however they have some challenges we we recognize that the scope of the program has grown so much that we needed to take a different look at how we pause and report things the meetings in in 20 2020 were just long and drawn out and there was some some debate about oh you really need as much details we came up with a different approach in a different format and so in some respects it's better because we can focus on on specific areas uh however some of us feel like you should have you ought to at least have some level of an update on a big expenditure but primarily the modernization project on a quarterly basis so we've been working with staff to try to figure out a kind of a happy medium but we have some level of understanding of how the overall program is doing and in particular some of the multiple high profile projects and then dive more deeply into those you know every every six months so we're working on some of those some of those changes and then there's a number of other items that dan and marina and i have talked about these areas for uh improvement i think one in particular is hopefully there will be a lessons learned as to what happened with benson and how could we what can we do to make sure we don't don't have something like that happen again we still have yet to hear anything on the center of black's excellence so we'd like to get updated and understand things and then there's is that scheduled time i believe so yeah and then some of the other programs the health and safety ada they're a bit challenging and reported because there's lots and lots of little projects we don't we have time to get into all the details that some some members of the board are interested in how what specifically what are we doing and so we're trying to find a happy medium as to how we report those out in a way where it's not just a bunch of financial data but it also demonstrates well here's what here's how we're trying to meet other goals right now and then i'd like to just add one one more item that's not on the agenda and that is the makeup of the committee this last year we had one resignation and another member whose term ended into the year both were seasoned people with the pretty broad construction network
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this coming year myself karen norm and gray like myself all have extensive background construction our terms of the ending returned well so it's really important that we focus on our improvement this year to back sailboats initially backfill those two positions and hopefully focus on folks that uh have a background similar to what we have and i thought i just lost it senior moment anyway other than that oh we have reach i have reached out although i'm not as connected as i once was you know required but nick and i both reached out to some potential candidates unfortunately when i wasn't successful i will still try i'm still trying but i don't just don't know folks like that are out there like they used to so any any ideas or suggestions and then lastly um i want to thank the staff for for dealing with us and putting up with some of our complaining and whining but they have been very accommodating and we're making good progress i think we're going to finally kind of get that sweet sweet spot where we get the right amount of information but we don't create a lot of unnecessary work on their apartment very sensitive that having been in raymond's shoes before and having to report to a commission uh i understand that balance so that's my goal is to make it towards don't overwhelm them too much with that answer and you have a question i actually have one additional one it's going to go back to the health and safety and um i was on the board when the health and safety issues appeared that came on shortly thereafter and it um how you describe the bac's sort of trying to get their arms around it is sort of how i i feel and i'm i wonder if they're i mean is there um a concern from the bac that you don't there's not a way to like get your arms around all the all the buckets of work and the smaller contracts i mean it's very different from like one big you know a remodernization some of like okay do you feel comfortable that the lead is out of the water uh i mean do you know that from the resource you get or if it's not like how far i would i would say our reports are primarily focused on the financial aspect of it uh and therein lies a challenge in some cases they're using uh the same contract to do multiple efforts of life safety issues so you might have water and security all in the same contract so it's a common challenge obviously for staff and it's also a reporting challenge because now you gotta break out and say well this contract this much went to that there's money for this and that's been the challenge and and we haven't what we haven't done is maybe talk a little bit more about what specifically we're accomplishing at what locations and and i don't know if that's a report that you give out to other committees i recall there were one committee that you report out to where you provide a little more detail than what we were getting thank you public status reports for yeah we basically um previously we've reported award financial instead of information for the entire from yes shall we say we've all because we're not really sorry yeah it's hard to hear anyway um but you know initially that information was all together as part of the program we moved to a format where we include the financial schedule information for each project with the project status update about what's going on itself so we now provide um for health and safety in particular
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each sort of mini program like water quality has its own project status it identifies all the projects that have that are being completed or have been completed using the funding that are commonly set aside um it also provides schedule and it gives a status update what's been accomplished um what's moving forward with what the next steps are of this and then also what growth they're seeing so it's all in one report for each of those individual problems and what we moved to this year as well was um basically rotating the groups intelligence in front of the ac so that we're not showing them every project or every problem one of the meetings that we provided materials for um was that the summer meeting that was the health and safety of them at that particular name we did not do presentations because we will have some other exceptions but typically we will provide the status reports to the eac and then our project managers will come into presentation it takes more time but it also gives at least an opportunity to ask questions from the individual one of the things that we've discussed with tom is potentially just providing a set of um project sites and scope for site that have been completed by helplessness alone as just something that gets updated and shown so it sits there continue and we updated each time this is and we don't always get into the detail on the report itself for each of those sites and so that's something that is helpful for transparency what's being done at each site then we'll look at it of course we also follow our website i appreciate that and this may be just like an opinion for and this isn't a vac so i appreciate understanding what you perceive your role but as we get to the five or six year mark from the 2017 bond and since we sold that whole bond primarily on their health and safety is just being able to say from i feel really reassured that you're looking at the money and i'm sure you guys are as well but from a parent perspective like hey is all of the lead out of the water at glencoe or the lead paint out of the vermin um so that we have a way of closing that out i mean we should be getting close closing out the 150 million just i think there will be a huge voter trust that the page will distress apparent trust issue on that because we can see like kellogg open it's like check you guys did that but some of these other things like did the asbestos get out of places where kids could be your staff could be you know it's a little bit harder to measure certainly and some of those are important right and that's the other piece there's not necessarily a um you know the asbestos is a good example but yeah we have this much money i regretted sent communication out for the community at large as a report on it and it's probably been resolved we're probably going to use again to do that we can work with our company to um you know publish something yeah the last one was really focused the heavy but on the like the big projects that were getting done but they say i think there's a way to do like some sort of infographic that is way more detailed about the stuff that everything let's efficiently and with a lot of
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we have or the process that we need to have um i'm not sure what the process i know in the past i recruited a few folks and passed them on to dan as have other folks on the board member i'm assuming um board members like yourself may have uh recruited folks i don't really know what the process is i know someone just gave me a call and said hey we're looking for someone with your background would you be interested sure is it okay i don't live in the history you know it's because you represent the poor portland and your background that's what i want you so um i said fine i'm still here yeah recruitment's been pretty informal uh to the other bac members making recommendations ultimately uh all pointies go to the board but it's been other board members who've had recommendations and normally what happens is marina and i will if there's someone we'll sit down and have a conversation and then we'll have a conversation with the like the chair or board member hey we think this is a good fit or not or whatever and make a recommendation so it's been pretty informal we could probably do some agreements there and we do have two open positions and we'll have quite a few more so we've we've already been five of them yeah gotcha i'm gonna dive on it awesome i would i would never drop that [Laughter] awesome any other questions thank you participation yes thank you tom thank you all right we're gonna do the office of modernization it's a close relationship and sometimes be bigger a little bit um because they want they want things they want information and we're trying to figure out how to get it but it's it continues to improve and somehow stronger opinions of others so make sure that those folks board feel like their variations are being addressed but also recognizing their families in order to have a medium wow so we provided a lot of materials and i noted they weren't necessarily on the agenda linked on the agenda but i i assume they were linked to the committee numbers typically when we recorded the report um just as a reminder we will give you all of the va's meeting materials that occurred and before reporting to our report um in large parts we don't want to reinvent the wheel and we also want you to see what the community is so you will have seen um two sets of materials for two different means last quarter and um and because there were so many materials um made a modification and provided a a summary report a little two-page summary report just in case you want to go through all of those i'm sure you'll come to it later so um before i talk about any details of what's occurring a little less i want to talk a little bit about this year because we have made some pretty significant changes in how we meet with the bac and how we report to the bfc and i think you're going to see that in the materials um if you've looked at prior materials this year they've they've essentially been changing every time we report this year we don't get the colored bioholder anymore and we're basically um we've been working very closely with the bac to reconsider how we provide information to them um to ensure that we're giving them the information they need that it's understandable and that we're not imposing too much on them as well so not making them sit through the 3 000 dollar meeting but let's not set these into projects so we made some pretty substantial changes at the start of the year we started it off um in january of 2021 with the retreat for bac members um which included new bac
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members as well as our big members and we essentially decided that instead of doing quantum meetings with the ac we were going to move to doing these every two months not only that we were going to not do every single project at each meeting we're going to rotate through clusters of objects on a set schedule and so each project gets reported twice in detail over the course of the year this is you know in large part because we added the 2020 bonds in november 2020 it's a massive amount of work and we need to to be able to support that on the aac side of things as well um and it also meant that we may be provided a little bit less of a fine grain detail so our schedules um instead of showing every single um level three item for each modernization we're now showing things essentially fine one by four we're trying to pull up a little bit and give them the ability to review the materials um considering that they're all volunteers so you will see that there have been some pretty substantial things we'd think that they were a good way to report on the projects but we continue to work on improvements ms drone believer in continuous improvement and i will continue to tweet the reports um each time whether that is for the pac 4 um uh one of the other things that came out of this last year and addition of all of this work but we also added a lot of stuff and so this is something that we don't talk about in 2021 we had two staff that left our departments they were chinese we hired a woman not because we needed 11 people to do the work and the two that left though they were working hard but we really needed a lot more folks to support all of the work whether it's project managers that are different working on 2020 projects or it's central support staff who are helping them process invoices and contracts um who are working on our e-builder system uh ensuring that our funding is correct our communications we even added staff that we were in communication with the data analysis all the things that we want to do which are up so um we've had quite a bit going on over the last year in addition we have basically been winding the 2012 bond program to a close uh we have completed essentially all of the projects that were um expected to be done under the 2012 program we're also completing two projects currently that were not foreseen initially um result phase four project um roosevelt phase four they have moved into that space we're just basically doing some pollock cleanup um maybe dealing with some delay items from the pandemic supply chain delays a couple of days all the things that's going on that essentially project was up here i have a field improvement um we've been working to get the construction contract approved thank you for that by the way last week um and getting the permits for that so at this point we think we will be in complete construction that is later than we have hoped um there are some things that there's certainly in our future and like what what are those things for that so we um aware that the lights the um timeline for getting lights has increased significantly from when we first started the projects um obviously contractors can't develop and order lights until they have a contact in place until everything's been approved by the city so once we know that they're able to order lights we will have a better sense of what it's going to take and they are fairly critical you can use a few without [Music]
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so we actually um the 2017 bond program we've spent roughly 66 um as of the december reporting um we obviously just moved into mcdaniel high school middle school in the fall don't seem to also work on the fuzzy dial contracts and um kind of getting a final formula and both of those projects expect to close out under budget we're still refining the exact numbers they're provided but they'll still swing a little bit up or down but probably not successful at this point um so we're very happy about the work that our staff has been doing in the politics um it is really a testimony to their their experience and their professionalism um how they've been able to complete these topics and which is on schedule so just to clarify if she knows the specific issue um we say on budget it's on the revised budget not that i imagine it was told that the voters have passed it is on the revised budget exactly okay um lincoln of course is currently under construction it's still scheduled so budget um fencing we've heard about the last time but they are under early construction and on sale as well health and safety for the most part what is currently active are asbestos projects uh lead paints abatements the um some really minor fencing work for the securities closing office lots of the student work and um our water quality projects we do have some funding that will be coming back to the program from roofing from the fire learners from the accessibility and potentially also from right on we're still working through that once we have a better sense of how much money is important we have a conversation about additional projects um where we focus that simplifies the 2020 program um i think what you'll see from the reports is that technology and curriculum were out the gate very quickly um spent as much money as they could uh get out the door to do what they needed to do which was quite good in the early part of the year um we are moving a little more slowly on the construction side of things for 2040 but we have moved forward with urgent projects for grant hatching politics while we volume up the next set of projects for things like between mechanical systems we're doing some more detailed assessments for aviating instead so we can identify the scope of each project not just what's needed for early transition with respect to just coaching and uh for our big projects on 2020 the request for proposals from extraordinary design context and we will be very part of the evaluation energy windows architecture and engineering teams we're also working with the local recruiting field to bring the senior project manager for that team we have a senior project manager we've looked at another one to use um um they are actually heavily based in north portland um they have extensive localized uh and um we've asked them to look they
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they do my understanding is that they do a lot of their work through um local connections right so they're very much aware based business um they held very deep ties within the community and that is essentially what we were looking for so you've mentioned about the public instructors that have been called it's not necessarily a hold up it's just a much slower ramp up it takes time to kind of wrap arms around the scope of each bucket of money and really try to come up with a criteria in terms of which projects moves you're the big picture roofing right but then the question is you know um how do you choose which roof to do um we may have multiple groups that are failing choose the website which yes we do multiple receivers and we're going to fix them go and fix them all right we're going to fix as many as we can gotcha yes any other questions comments awesome so thanks for that thanks up yeah for work and how that is made was less been very um creative and flexible in getting a little bit despite you know interpersonal pressures the other comments let's get the update for the ada i will so next topic is the ada transition plan so in your packets or posted online or a few documents there's uh some of them are just previous documents that we've been there's reference a copy of the presentation from our december 8th meeting uh and then two reference memos or from march of 2020 we provided those leave a couple of times one's about timeline timeline of the ada transition plan one about the engagement efforts that went into it uh there is a new document which is a staff memo outlining proposed ada plan changes based upon feedback that we heard at our last meeting on december 8th so today but we'd like to hear feedback on those proposed changes uh and allow the committee to decide if they want to move the transition plan to the full board for consideration so with that i'll ask uh john lyons he just wants to do a quick 30-second kind of highlight of what those changes are based on the feedback we'll answer questions thanks dan so just to review quickly the the changes that we're proposing in the transition plan first we've introduced ranges to the timeline for each phase so this will allow us to include the remainder of our accessibility commitment in the next font while maintaining the outer limit of the timeline to account for construction and design issues outside the district and i guess bottom line here is that we've shifted the precise formula where the fuel center is influenced so with that [Music] just has to accept the the ada transition plan well we don't have to do anything this is this is static john parker i love the smart person the ada transition is a federal requirement and i appreciate that it's now jumped by bonds i um i'm so pondering back to the last thing because i really appreciate like all the work that accessibility is not just compliance but you can have a higher standard um well played their options uh but i guess what i wasn't it seemed like we're still uh i know this is like from the staff perspective we got to get the transition plan over the finish line but what i feel like is missing is if we're saying we're not going to work
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we're going to extend the timeline to the transition plan partly because there's other things that are important in terms of accessibility than just our components so i appreciate that but what i like to see and maybe i missed it was like our bigger plan like what i said last time it's like i want to see like i want to buy i want to buy the bigger thing versus a complaint like longer compliance plan the possibility the possibility of that's something more kind of on the side but not for sure and i think that that's what i'm missing to get excited about for is we have a really detailed capital plan that we developed with our community last summer um some of the community members were still hanging out with from the transmission plan um so we've gone through and made a prioritized list and done some field work for elementary schools to build we're just we're waiting for these bond conversations to bring those forward and take off those conversations the kind of the big document this is the accessibility plan for the district is that's that's tough thematically because the scopes of work are so different just as disability is just it's a spectrum right you can you can be a wheelchair user or you can have centered clauses but they're just they're very very different so they're not going to be addressed believe we've been in singapore they are going to be dressed they're going to be in the expect they're going to be in the long range facility they're going to be there they're not going to be single is that we're not we're not trying to hit accessibility improvements versus the ada improvements we're what we're trying to build into is some uh conservative and realistic timelines but also line that there are processes going forward where this will be further defined and decisions will have to be made the majority of this is going to be capital financials to come through future bonds bonds to steal a line from our cfo all the time are there high not allowed so how big is that bond how much of it is going to go to accessibility and then the board in the district will decide within accessibility how much do we want to go towards ada compliance versus these other higher orders and we're and it isn't to say that it can't we're just saying that there is going to be some decision making we want to provide that cognizant of it and provide some knife i don't buy into the the and um i guess i'm just i guess i would want to see like me so it is linked to the bond like what's it a plan that's happening right now that when you've come to us in two years however many years three years and like okay we're going to do the bond planning and here's here's the menu is like that but that's something we could pick up in the menu um what worries me is and i'm i'm happy to help vote it out a committee so i can give you for the full board but what worries me is that um we rely sort of like the seismic piece where we rely on some things to only do it like once the school is modernized and that just means it's going to be like 20 something years for some kids and i think about kids not being able to like play on our playgrounds today and that like that just hurts my heart that some kids would like not be able to use our playgrounds because of some disability they have so i guess i'm looking forward like where's the plan that we can go you know we can get behind so it's not like no it's an ada um yeah i think the truth is that the plan is the long-range facility plan and there are components that are tangential to that and that lead into that but there is not one plan that covers many billions and millions of dollars
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that the district has in detail that's going to say do this project and then do this i think if we even attempted to construct something like that if it takes longer to be so quickly outdated and you so we have the components that go into bond planning and certainly and that's going to start in the year we'd like to start talking about 18 months because these conversations are hard and there are trade-offs so we'd like to have a long ramp up to bond planning so we can we don't know what the size of that next box is going to be we've got a general idea of what some of our needs are and when i say these i'm thinking of things like deferred maintenance the things that we need to fix it doesn't include all the other things that we might want to have that we haven't even identified yet it certainly had a cost so it's it's taking all those things into that right side so maybe i can just illustrate two examples just saying on the second stage and they're just they're very desperate that's what we're talking about so our playground 500 percent plan has a detailed list of our energy schools um they're prioritized with someone via scope um and then periscope with foreign union members again that's hinted at the long-range facilities line i have the capital plan share it embedded with our community um the inspector is looking closely at it for their share of 2012 um the other end of the spectrum here is restaurants we heard loudly clear that ada restaurants can be as small as 35 um what we're looking for to support someone in motorized wheelchair and if you support stock those are your three pockets this is outlined in excruciating details we probably won't those are very different visibilities very different versions are just very different they're both fundamental too that's cool yeah so i'm looking at phase three phase four and it looks like all of this depends on if you have a contingency that doesn't happen capital improvements significant cattle per events ostensibly are funded from general allocation bonds we do have other capital funding but it's really limited it would not be able to complete any of this and it needs to basically cover anything that's not funded so outside bond funding uh it would be a pretty significant challenge or anything so we have purposely um created a long-term financial plan to support an account that's needed in projects that are needed and it is on every four-year timeline and we're keeping the level 11 rate being the same tax rate for our patrons and that's something that the board has been communicating with in the past uh any of this depended on the journal no none of the capital improvements are or maybe they're not john it's it's very at all very small but as databases but now there's no time so there's some fluctuations yeah certainly we complete improvements throughout the year we and our facilities people get hundreds of different small projects here and some of those might be general funds might be an accessibility this plan is focused on generalification [Music]
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um that would be that would cover phase one in the base two which is all the main floors last time the primary reason why is that the science if you can't do the other pieces the elevators and what um piece in here about why the elevator is making things complicated that that's the essence of why at least for the ada compliance not the not the world's accessible world we want but the idea of the client that's the main issue that's great that's the primary driver just the ability to complete a large number of elevators probably where we have accessibility when we get to multiple floors that is yes constructing elevators uh in the existing buildings which john particularly or marina is not always the ideal situation when you have an existing structure and you're going to add an elevator it's really where is it feasible to put it it still might be if a student has to or any individual has to go a long way to travel to get to an elevator to come back whereas when it is through a modernization reconstruction you can optimize that location for uh the individual speakers that's a lot of the most we've tried to make conditions that we have right now correct any other questions comments awesome all right so i think we're going to see if we want to move this to the board with the recommendation do we do something at the bottom the board does but so you can just recommend the the full board for consideration seven additional uh questions just to follow up on okay so i understand the problems all right that came in from the city so we're going to keep this on this here it's kind of short so i'm coming to not recommend this to go to the board at all i for me uh have a couple of couple reasons why one um that's not really in our mission um our tps mission two we have other needs that possibly can come up for instance to come and relocation piece so we need people to need to keep our options open um in order to be able to make sure that first and foremost we're taking care of our kids um that y'all are here to do so with that um i'm not i'm not recommended to go to the full point at all any other comments herman you got anything you want to say i knew that [Laughter] [Music] it has been a full day can y'all see and hear me right now yes sir okay so my i don't have any words to say right now but thank y'all for letting me be a part i've been having internet problems so that's why i keep turning my video off because it's been i've been able to stay connected and at least listen awesome all right um i'm gonna are we gonna actually vote on it or vote on the recommendation not to send it to the global board exactly yeah so uh and i'm sure director green seconded it there you go
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so i'm gonna support the motion um the right call and i appreciate um the work that commissioner ryan is doing to really approach what is you know one of our most challenging issues as a city um having said that i think that judy forsyth is just the wrong the wrong location for a number of reasons um it doesn't fit their mission as you mentioned it is adjacent to a park that is very well used to have i think we as a district um because of our history with that site um with the closing the weaker closing bottoms and closing whitaker the radon issues as you will have um shareholdings uh we have a alarm not necessarily um pps is almost not this is really a good relationship with the site and um the community and um for me it seems this when we think about that site how is it to maximize um how we support our students and the families with that property and i know we have some projects on the table and initiatives that could actually um really turn what is a um that specific site on the part site from an underutilized um community resource changing videos marketplace so all right i do want to thank people and staff that many guys work with studying about this and so i mean anytime we have a emergency or statewide emergency is great that we have organizations willing to come together to brainstorm to try to figure out solutions versus getting our little silos so i do want to appreciate everybody back and if we do have a site that we're not going to be using that's going to directly affect our kids if we can put those suggestions out to fail to the city to help with that issue uh that would be great and we um and i just wanted to thank everyone for um stepping up to the plate when there's an issue that um that is pressing our city um because we're in the city and this is just even though it's about our kids like together in the city and and to be able to step up to the plate and work with our different organizations government agencies is what we should be striving to do um so i want to thank you guys um this was actually for the insider so are we going to vote on but this is not public comment on the thing we're going to go down [Laughter] hello mr rosen hi i have a process question i thought you just voted the ada transition plan out of committee to the full board and so i'm curious why i wasn't allowed to comment before you voted on that good question so usually i have to put all public comments at the end of the meeting yeah but usually if you're doing a vote taking a procedural step public comment on that issue happens before you take your procedural step thanks for that well so will you go back and re-vote after my public comment i don't think we need to i mean i don't think the vote's going to change oh so my public comment is valueless is that's what you're saying no i mean if you want i mean if you want to talk about it but i don't think i don't think the voter's going to change as far as you know how do you know the vote's not going to change when you haven't listened to me and i would appreciate if you would learn what procedure and courtesy is okay i've got that do you want to speak i want you to rescind your vote and vote
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after i speak yeah we probably won't do that so do you want to speak now yes i want to speak now under protest start the timer i'll take my two minutes um i don't have well-developed remarks or comments because once again staff didn't extend us the courtesy of sharing their decision in advance and they didn't post their decision in a timely manner your decision adds 20 more years of oppression to the disability community the wording is nothing more than bureaucratic mumbo jumbo and says that we'll try we will try in 20 years to meet the federal law requirements contrary to your small outreach sample this is not about access to place structures it's about fair and equitable and humane treatment it's about access to buildings it's about discriminating against the disability community which you've done for the last 30 years we are not satisfied we will try this decision in the court of public opinion and we will not rest until you the board reverse staff and do the right thing thank you


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