2021-12-08 PPS School Board Facilities and Operations Committee Meeting
District | Portland Public Schools |
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Date | 2021-12-08 |
Time | 16:00:00 |
Venue | BESC Wy'East Room |
Meeting Type | committee |
Directors Present | missing |
Documents / Media
Notices/Agendas
Materials
ADA transition Plan - Draft Plan (b0e62d35f022a8de).pdf ADA transition Plan - Draft Plan
ADA transition Plan - Staff Report (9f9f8ea22e03930d).pdf ADA transition Plan - Staff Report
ADA transition Plan - Engagement Summary (bfcb1e826c389b03).pdf ADA transition Plan - Engagement Summary
ADA transition Plan - Timeline (eafc53726ec3bd96).pdf ADA transition Plan - Timeline
ADA Transition Plan PPoint 12 8 21 (af0c63e73a63606f).pdf ADA Transition Plan PPoint 12_8_21
Parks Agreement - OPS COMMITTEE PRESENTATION (5ceb07f5cb94160e).pdf Parks Agreement - OPS COMMITTEE PRESENTATION
MEMO - F&O COMMITTEE - WEST SYLVAN - FINAL - 12 03 2021 (ccdacbc65051321b).pdf MEMO - F&O COMMITTEE - WEST SYLVAN - FINAL - 12 03 2021
Minutes
Transcripts
Event 1: 12/08/21 PPS Board of Education's Facilities and Operations Committee
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we want to go ahead and get started
um
so we'll get started um
once again we thank everybody for being
here
uh today
let's just can we go around just like
real brief introduction so we all know
please do um let's start on my on my
left down again and go this way
and go around
hi everyone i'm john lyon senior program
manager for atomic schools
hi i'm sarah miller i'm a
first grader at windsor elementary
school
i'm vanna white i'm the grunter planning
and real estate the research i'm pierson
county real estate company
i'm eric girding senior project manager
for the lincoln high school replacement
project
director for the offices for
monetization
i'm angela jarvis holland i'm the
executive director of northwest
disability support and i also sit on the
bond accountability community
i'm gary holland i am supportive
member yes
here
[Laughter]
is julia from edward's board number
committee number
where sam caldwell
foreign
hi
um my name is byron mcmahon and i'm
cleveland's um cleveland high school
student rep
oh i'm also um deputy student as well
awesome
thank you
all right so we will start with the
ada transition plan we'll let them
just a couple of seconds uh so you have
a transition plan on the agenda tonight
as intends to go before the board fairly
soon for adoption
uh so
in your packets you've got a few
materials including the draft plan and
today we're going to
do a short presentation and with that
i'll enter it over to john
thank you very much so i'm going to walk
us through our transition plan i'm going
to be
co-presenting with the amazing human
being sitting to my right sarah um i
actually mentioned a bps parent of a
first grader at peninsula
so sarah's going to jump in and
talk about some specific
accessibility
i think uh
features that we want to discuss but
also um
amend where i follow
so
we'll do
uh so this afternoon we'll discuss the
proposed sequence of the district's ada
transition plan as well as accessibility
at the district mortgage
on this latter point and as
foreshadowing i want to
really foreground that accessibility for
the ada is only part of the complete
accessibility picture for our students
you can see our work for the the ada
transition plan at pps.net
slash accessibility this includes the
draft plan as well as an index of all
the barriers district-wide
as well as a summary of our engagement
so
looking at the outline today um we'll
first talk about the accessibility gap
at portland public schools
we'll discuss the regulatory background
of the transition plan the requirements
of the transition plan and then we'll
take a very important bird walk to
discuss inclusive play spaces which i
think will help really illuminate
the extents of federal accessibility
but that is the ada and then at the end
we're going to transition we're going to
talk about the transition plan phasing
and timeline
the underlying message here and my goal
for today is that i want to widen our
view to
a deeper dimension of accessibility
because those two are not synonymous
so just a reminder that our buildings
are very very old the average primary
construction date for district buildings
is 1944.
um looking at where 88 falls within this
sequence
only about nine buildings were
constructed after legal productions for
students with disabilities existed at
all
um these standards 1991
were then updated in 2010 so so
00h 05m 00s
strict compliance we only have six
schools in the district that that meet
ada guidelines 100
so 91 percent of district buildings were
constructed before the ada 24 district
buildings need elevators
we have over 1600 documented barriers
and to fully transition the district
it's an estimated 69 million dollars
so and talk about the regulatory context
for the the ada so the purpose of the
transition plan is to transition
a public agency into full compliance
with the americans with disabilities act
and programs could be made accessible in
one of three ways
uh we can move programs
we can move students
or we can modify the architecture and
we'll we'll talk about this third one
primarily today modifying architecture
but it's worth noting that we largely
meet the
mandates the ada by those by the first
two by moving students and moving
programs and i just want to
highlight here that that's
not in line with district values that's
not desirable
but it's what we do in the absence of a
barrier-free district
you might add a little context to that
and i'll share more as we get through
the presentation but
for example we live in north portland we
live right across the street from
columbia park and our daughter is a
zombie peninsula elementary school
my husband i feel like it's really
important
to send her to her community school
because
you know you go to the grocery store we
live like you said across from columbia
park we've bumped into other kids um
that are in her first grade class our
daughter's first grade class
in the park it just um that extension of
the school extends beyond the school and
so far into your community
and if you
know that you're going to be sending
your child
to a school that is not within that
community
not only does the family
and the child miss out on that social
extension but i believe also that the
community misses out on the benefit of
having a diverse
population as well
thank you
so then looking at the requirements of a
transition plan we need to identify
barriers again those those can be found
at pbs.net accessibility
uh we need to establish a schedule to
remove those barriers and we we need to
do community engagement specifically
with individuals experiencing disability
to do that we connected with community
vision
fact oregon and the oregon council of
development disabilities and
we held three virtual town halls last
year um we also
put a public review of the transition
plan with the comment form and we
conducted spanish language interviews
i'm sorry for those was that community
engagement like just invited or was it a
running open house
yeah it was a 100 percent open so what
we did is we had
the organizations that we just spoke
spoke about
they broadcast on social media they did
their email list serves
we basically leaned on them to help us
reach our community
i can add a little bit because i was on
the receiving end of the experience as
part of the community members um i was
actually alerted to the tom falls
through another parent who invited me to
join her daughter um
went through a saban school district and
is in high school now also a wheelchair
and power chair user and because my
daughter was so young
she was like you know your daughter's at
the perfect age you should join these
calls and so i joined the calls and
that's where um i met john
and um they were really interesting um
there's just such a deep body of work um
that was shared and then
there were quite a few people i'm not
sure exactly how many i feel like it was
about a year ago um there were two or
three calls that john had posted and um
shared the progress of the work that he
had already done and then asked for
extensive feedback
and there were a lot of
it was a very diverse group of people
representing a wide range of
disabilities
so
you know my experience as a daughter
as muscular dystrophy is very different
from a child who is autistic and so um
john did a really awesome job of sort of
collating all of that feedback together
um to
capture the highest level themes that
could bring the greatest benefit to all
kids on playgrounds
yeah
so the resulting
kind of phasing structure from that
engagement work
is what you see on the screen here so
main level accessibility is what we'll
address first
uh phase one and two are are covered
within the 2020 bond and then we're
00h 10m 00s
going to look to future future bonds for
phase three and four
we're going to return to the phasing and
timeline at the end of the presentation
so i'll just ask if you if you want to
dive in deep just hold those questions
for a minute and we'll come back
one thing we want to talk about today is
during the engagement we surface many
many conversations
around
physical supports that our students need
but are not addressed in the americans
with disabilities act
so today we're going to talk about
playgrounds but we could easily talk
about any of the things that you see
here so restrooms acoustics and broadly
access we'll touch on access a little
bit
but i really want to contextualize the
ada within these things and i can talk a
little bit about the history of the
development of the ada maybe shed some
light on why that is
but it's really critical that we put the
ada in context of a wider accessibility
conversation
um so here this is ada is really just a
small portion of the conversation we
need to be having here
so we're going to talk about inclusive
play spaces as an example
so
what the ada requires for play spaces is
an accessible path from the building or
parking lot to the edge of the play area
and then an accessible path from the
edge of the area to the equipment then
surfacing that complies with this
standard indicated here there is nothing
about the equipment that itself that
needs to be accessible
something to ask is is this presentation
i'm not saying there's no gemini missing
it in the new materials it wasn't
submitted
um so i want to talk about this space um
so this is park just the eastern
metropolitan learning center uh this
this play space meets the guidelines of
the ada
um
mark chips believe it or not are ada
compliant
uh and beyond the bark chips the ada
really concerns itself with with the
path that's highlighted and read here
so this park is managed by portland
parks and recreation i think they
understood the
gap in their community and what the
federal standards were
addressing so they undertook a design
effort to make a radically inclusive
playground on this site
um these are some preliminary sketches
today the playground looks like this
and it's really wonderful if you've been
there you know this
um it supports all types of play for uh
to it to accommodate a wheelchair user
and anyone else it's just fun for
everyone
so this is another photo of anna and
abby's yard and in forest grove
uh so you can see like not only is this
great for for kids
but also provides access for caregivers
as well
so at this point i'm going to turn it
over to sarah let her introduce back to
dana so this is my daughter mac elena
she's about to celebrate her 7th
birthday on december 19th um she's very
excited she's going to have a science
themed party she's super into chemistry
and science right now we just got our
new microscope um she's in first grade
at peninsula which i've already
mentioned
um
we just um
started the enrollment process for her
in the talented and gifted program
and um the community at peninsula is
really wonderful and she she's very well
supported through the
special education program there and
we've had a really wonderful experience
so far
um she has a form of muscular dystrophy
so she's very weak and uses a power
chair which is what you see her in there
um while she's outdoors or traveling far
distances and then uses a manual
wheelchair while she's in school at
peninsula elementary um she's our only
child
and
as a result of the experience i've had
as a mother who experiences physical
disabilities i have found myself in a
place of advocacy
and i'm also a board member of harper's
playground an organization that
focuses on
making the world more inclusive one
playground at a time so
thanks for having me
here and um this is a video with
magdalena playing on the playground at
peninsula elementary a couple of weeks
ago
uh because magdalena doesn't swallow she
goes to school with the nurse and so she
um i asked her a nurse and she would
take some video footage of her because i
know
um that she doesn't play much with other
kids on the playground because she can't
get physically to them the barrier of
the wood chips that john described
00h 15m 00s
makes it really hard for her to get to
the space of the structures and even
when she can get to the play structure
spaces she can't actually do anything
once she gets there so what happens on
the playground
comes up a lot in conversation
at home prompted by my daughter not me
where she's telling me you know what
she's doing on the playground and kind
of what happens because
you know kids want to run around and get
on swings and climb on play structures
and things like that and it is free play
so it's funny when um john and i were
preparing for this presentation we just
had her iep
on monday night and her first grade
teacher
shared with us not only in our iep but
also in her our parent teacher
conferences that
there are some concerns about her
socially because of this barrier that
happens on the playground and it
actually prevents her from being able to
make really strong social connections
with her peers because this is supposed
to be a time of free play and so
if it's not structured
then kids are going to do what they want
to do and they're seven years old so
they're not thinking about being
necessarily extending inclusion at this
point in their social development so my
daughter has made up a game that she
placed by herself with a hula hoop and a
wiggle ball
um to help pass the time um other times
she has come home from school and told
me that um because she can't play with
anybody or can't get to any structures
that she's going to take a book and sit
on the playground and read a book by
herself
um and i think what's interesting is
john had mentioned earlier like ada does
not
request that those structures actually
be compliant or inclusive play
structures so um
she can get out to the playground and be
on the playground but
what is the structures that are there do
not allow for her to actually engage
with her peers
um
these are some pictures of magdalena um
at anna and abby's yard which is an
inclusive playground and then also at
harper's playground with some of her
friends
when she was in kindergarten we had her
enrolled in peninsula elementary but she
was in a pod a learning pod with three
other kids that went to peninsula and
also to beach elementary and they would
frequently go to harper's playground
where she
like i said can't maybe you can't she
can't get on that that piece that
they're on but she can sit wheel up to
it there's like a
paved path so she can get up there with
them and then can go down and meet them
at the bottom they like we're throwing
balls and things like that so there's
opportunity for creative play where she
can still be actively engaged and you
can see like they're happy that she's
there just as much as she is happy to be
with them
and then some more pictures at anna and
abby's yard that just sort of show how
things are designed
and um created so that like this piece
of it's like musical instruments that
allow for a wheelchair user to actually
get underneath there and to be able to
reach some of those um like the mallets
or hammers um associated with each of
the instruments
and then the image to the far right is
actually at esther short park which is a
community park in vancouver washington
and this is an elevated play structure
but underneath they've you know
put something under there that can be
manipulated if it's a game that could be
played with a peer or a friend or a
family member
so there
even though she can't get to what is
above there's something down below for
her to do with another kid
and here's another piece of playground
equipment that is really cool
and i think this goes along with that
theme and sort of the values and
philosophy of
pps's approach to a free play during
recess um
is that it's organic um that is actually
like a little spinny cup for a kid to
sit in
um my daughter can't get out of her
chair and get in there herself but she
can put her little stuffed bat in there
and turn it around
and have just as much fun
so it's they're adaptable things they're
they're things that you know a parent
could sit in that with their child or a
child can put their doll or their
stuffed animal in there um she could
push a friend in there
um so just thinking about the equipment
that is on the playground in a way that
it's not like she has to do everything
that all the other kids can do but that
there's an opportunity for creativity
and engagement at the same time
the services for the wheels here is just
absolutely critical we could not do this
with chips
just more footage playing the musical
00h 20m 00s
instruments um
of anna and evan's yard
so again i just wanna to really
emphasize like
these things aren't required in marriage
with disabilities act there there is a
huge gap there and the ada is not
feeling an essential need for students
um so recognizing this and after the ada
transition plan we started an inclusive
playground group
which involved uh community members like
sarah
but also
our staff from from pe from special
education from other areas of the
district where we developed a set of
inclusive playground standards um
that will be documented within the
forthcoming version of the spec and
moving forward all improvements to
playgrounds will be inclusive and the
way that we're defining that is that the
coolest thing on the playground has to
be accessible by everything
that's a great difference
that typically means the thing that's
highest up so so a lot of slipping
surfaces but
we'll take it
we also included in this work a case
study uh so we looked at woodmere
elementary schools title 1 tsi
part of their essay subgroups are
students with disabilities they
currently have two students in
wheelchairs and also a blind student
this is the current field um the
travel distance you can see if you can
see my mouse yes
um kids come out of here need to to
travel across this asphalt expanse
and then arrive at this this play
structure here and and speaking with the
principal that it largely reflects what
sarah told us about it's it's students
that
that rely on wheelchairs basically come
to the edge of the playground and watch
their peers play
uh so we wanted to take a look at this
as a as a
case study we wanted to dream big um
so this is what we came up with based on
the standards that we developed with our
community and i just want to highlight
some of the the components here so we
have a continuous circulation path
with a surface that's acceptable for
wheels
we have a double slide or a companion
slide so that students who may not be
able to support themselves going down
the slide can go down to companion
we have a continuous path through all
the major play features
um we have cool down areas for kids that
get over stimulated um we can go for
some refuge but not be socially isolated
from the space itself we have an outdoor
learning space and we have musical
instruments so kids experiencing some
form of autism can go and express
themselves express their autism
comfortably
we were dreaming big here
but if
we were able to for instance
implement 20 of this across our
elementary schools the impact would be
profound
so i just want to summarize uh
playgrounds here so
playgrounds are profoundly important for
socialization and ideal setting for
social learning they're also a really
really important public statement about
accessibility
yeah i might just
add a little bit to that i think also um
you know the importance of kids being
able to play on playgrounds together and
like i there are so many times where my
daughter will see some like really
colorful fun looking play structure
and she'll want to go
and
you get like partially there and you
realize there's a curve or there's a set
of stairs or like there's all this other
like a series of barriers that are going
to inhibit her ability
to even
get anywhere near the play space
um
is i i mean it's apparent as a parent
it's hard to witness and she's i would
say generally well adjusted to um
encountering those barriers and sort of
like finding another
way to entertain yourself like a move in
the whittle ball
um but
that doesn't mean that it is right and
i'm sure that
it is extremely disappointing for her
um and also i just think
one thing that has really struck me like
as i think about our experience at
penance look which is so focused on
diversity and inclusion
and i love that about the school um but
then when you bump into these
architectural
barriers
that
actually go against the values that
we're teaching our kids we
unintentionally um
create like a separation
when we're telling them one thing but
what we're actually doing is totally the
opposite
and
um like i i think about that a lot as a
parent um
where she goes to school and she learns
all these things about
equity
and then um experiences like something
00h 25m 00s
completely different when she goes and
gets on a bus that is separate from her
peers which is different than what we're
talking about with playgrounds but um
i just think it's really important that
if we have this opportunity to do this
something like this particularly in a
place of play which has such a high
impact on social development not just
for kids with disabilities but for all
kids
it helps everybody to learn and
understand and to practice
and experience the benefit of
playing with all different kinds of
people and to make friends with
everybody um is really valuable
beyond school and far reaching into the
community
so i
want to shift the conversation a little
bit and this is going to be a downer i
apologize
[Laughter]
i want to highlight one area which which
is legal it meets the requirements of
the ada but we would not consider
accessible
uh and that's cleveland high school so
what we're looking at here this is 26
this is southeast franklin this is 28.
the the primary engines of the building
the front door of the building is this
orange triangle here
um the accessible entrance for the best
side of the building is this green dot
uh to get to the accessible entrance the
slope on palm is too steep so you
actually have to travel all of this
distance so
if you you can just imagine how
exhausting that would be using a walker
a crutch or a wheelchair
when you get to the green dot
what you find is this
and as an architect this
hurts to look at
um
it's
unacceptable this ramp is a mess um but
i i want to just emphasize here that
this is
this is compliant this is ada
but it's also you know retrofit and
jerry so that's one of the
main reasons why we're fully modernizing
all of our comprehensive high schools
and working our way through the rest of
our
inventory because
you know
legal
uh is not to say that anyone
holds that as our idea
so just returning again to the
transition plan phasing as i said before
main level accessibility district-wide
will be phase one and two and is covered
in the 2020 bond
and then we're going to look to future
bonds for multi-level access middle
schools and k-8s starting with title 1
csi tsi and focus option and then phase
4 will be multi-level access for our
elementary schools i'll just speak a
little bit about the rationale for this
phasing
so looking at
phase three
in middle schools and k-8s we have kids
that are rotating between classrooms
so there is generally more movement that
we want to support
if there are specialized classrooms on a
second floor for example we want to make
sure that everybody's able to access
those
um that's why middle schools and kas
prioritized over elementary schools
where kids are typically in a home room
for most of them
so um
the board made the decision to put 33
in
the 2020 bond
and i guess
what i
want to know is
um looks like you're committing to do
that
in phase one and phase two and so that's
still 73 million
and
um
on what
what timeline is that in terms of years
so
so the bond passed in
2020 and so it says so in six years the
33 million
will all be spent and you'll have
effective main level accessibility
in all the buildings that's correct yeah
so we need to touch basically every
building in the district except for six
with the 2020 bond
and then
the next
increments
so you're saying it's going to be two
even though they're in the same box that
phase three and trace phase four look
like they're too
actually confused because
one is a five
one is a six year and the next
is a
seventh year
but are those years married to bonds are
they for something else they're they're
a conservative estimate based on on the
sequence of elevators so
for instance if we were to look to the
2024 bond
um we would of course change that date
00h 30m 00s
and push everything up here
um so looking specifically at the
duration uh we've got about 12 elevators
in both phase one excuse me
there's nothing specifically tying us to
a bond commitment within the transition
plan
um but i would look to phase three
to fund hold or in part in the 2024 bond
so the timeline
and that's not to say that we could
start immediately um given staff
allocation all that all that stuff but
yeah
it's certainly fungible i'm sorry
because i thought you said that um
i thought is that the bonds
that the primary funding mechanism is
the bond then it seems like the phase of
this will be
so i think this is more
a potential timeline
it's not anchored on the financial
components of the bondage
so
if he's now saying
we look at three and four to go to the
2024 bond and that's a more decision
than
the prioritization of what fits into
that phone
then then those dates would move up so
they'd be sooner
if it was in the 2012 but it's also a
high phase three individuals but it's
also hybrid between
a
pragmatic uh understanding of how we
could sequence the work and the
availability of the
vendors and contractors to do the work
as well as
access to the capital we need whether
it's from the bond or general fund or
whatever so this is very preliminary and
not to the extra reason
yeah again i'm trying to see how it gets
to main endpoint
um
like for example if the board hadn't
voted to put the 33 million dollars in
accessibility what what would this
timeline look like or was there some
other
well just that we hadn't completed our
transition plan
i think this will stretch out longer
right it would stretch along we wouldn't
be able to complete them we wouldn't
have funding to complete
and then my other question i love
playgrounds because um that's where i
found my like creative cell
and the place directions like glencoe
are still the same ones i played on just
for the record um
um
i love that idea i'm like is that baked
in here or is that like on top of
because i think like it's like i want to
buy that
and we need to buy this
so what what is the whole thing and is
that incorporated in the transition plan
because you know i think the
the basics is
becoming successful
this is like the found foundation and
the other pieces to make it really
accessible on top of it so like what
what does that that all cost is that
baked into the transition
the idea transition plan is specific to
ada i think john has more presentation
answer some of those questions
it does and so
there there are a set of legal
requirements for the transition plan the
transition plan
must only speak to the requirements of
the ada the very narrow scope that we
discussed here because we are legally
accountable to to track and incorporate
all resolutions to all of those
documents so within the transition plan
um
we we need to focus solely on the ada
uh so as i've said we have we have
inclusive playground
work we've worked with the community on
developing those standards those are
documented both within the long-range
facility plan and within the district's
aspect uh we don't have any specific
scoping requirements um but i would
anticipate in terms of planning for the
upcoming bond that we would develop
those
if you would like to do
uh for instance we have a 45 elementary
schools if we would like to address
intensive playground equipment at 20
this is what we do
but we need to do that within the
specific budget amounts for
fun
so the intent was this is about the ada
transition plan but we just want to give
that additional context like that ada
compliance and accessibility are not one
of the same and there can be very high
value accessibility improvements i'm
going to go after playgrounds restrooms
acoustics and some of the gun that's
called out
that might be you know as important or
more important than some level of ada
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compliance so we just want to be able to
give the committee that level of contact
uh when instead of just hyper focusing
on the ada transition planning people
not understanding that relationship
so i understand there's a ton of work to
just be responsive to this
compliance
obligation that we have here but how
much uh
how much analysis or how much
even
explanation of the scope of those other
issues
have we done
or will we do
specifically so for example um inclusive
playgrounds like
inclusive playgrounds but also you know
there's all sorts of
improvements within classrooms in terms
of accessibility that are not required
by ada but are
you know humane improvements that we
would like to make i mean there's also
there's a whole range of things not to
mention things that address
disabilities that aren't uh manifestly
physical
yeah um so i'll just say we we have a
long way to go i think as part of our
work on this bad bond development we
we've made progress on understanding
what the gap is
uh so i think we're getting our arms
around that now um
i think what i would advocate for though
is is
in addition to spending in future bonds
on accessibility we have a continuation
of the sped
scheduled work or or some more generic
accessibility improvements
but
to answer your question we would need to
look at that carefully we are the
farthest along on inclusive playgrounds
we have a pretty good understanding of
what the the gap is and it's very place
to start yeah it's a very very big
campus
so i'm just speaking as one individual
board member but also one who
chaired the last one
i i would hope that pbs would have
a accessibility plan and underneath that
this is like one piece of it
um because
it's sort of
in some ways it's possessed it's almost
itself it's like a false choice like you
can choose the legal ones and that make
and if we do that we can do it faster or
we can do it slower and we can add these
other things which are accessible and
it's like i want them all but it seems
like we should
what's the most inclusive to
um our students who need our buildings
to be more accessible is to have this
overarching plan
yeah we just have to do this but i think
it can't be like well we're not going to
do this we're going to do this over a
way long period of time because we want
to do all these other things that aren't
planned
it seems like better to be
what's the big thing look like and then
this fits under it as the legally wired
or maybe the floor
um but it's not the whole idea
i agree with that approach um and then
that's something we can talk about and
we're happy to continue the dialogue
with our community about what that looks
like
i think the the four things that i
mentioned at the beginning
um so so playgrounds access uh acoustics
and uh missing restrooms
i think they all need their own
individual program plan
so we we heard
i think the loudest and the most
consistently about playgrounds so we got
started on that almost immediately and
we're pretty far along we have a capital
plan for playgrounds we have a capital
scoring criteria we have a set of
standards uh we're ready to go we just
need that ones and that's not the case
with bathrooms that seems like that
would be like a pretty
foundational
uh bathroom so we make various
accommodations from about restrooms um
through special education special
education that 13.4 million dollars is
going to accommodate that in part
but
so just to back up and get a little
context that the ada requires uh
restrooms to be accessible an ada
accessible restroom can be as small as
35 square feet with five by seven which
does not work for a mechanical
wheelchair
as well as some support
i
would not say that that those kids are
unsupported in our schools right now
it's happening but it's happening in
kitchen restrooms it's happening
in multi-stall bathrooms that are being
ported off it's happening in other
ways so just
does the main floor accessibility
does it
does that cover that means it does yeah
okay
like otherwise
we're not going to get the 180 square
foot bathroom at every site that we want
and our kids really need but we can do a
lot of that
you know the other thing that we need to
think about is that um
you know we've been focused on our high
schools for our full modernizations
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which are
outrageously expensive because they're
so big but as we get through that work
we will have two more to finish out on
our next spot
um
we'll be able to to spread the
spread our projects more broadly so
we'll be able to modernize more of our
inventory because they're not going to
be 200 million jobs
you know so that is another way even if
we're not
just
applying it to accessibility
improvements but
full modernizations or significant
modernizations that include
accessibility
so
that's going to become easier
and speaking
forward with our program
that's exactly right
i just want to end by acknowledging that
that 20 years is a very very long time
to wait for work that should already be
completed there's just there's no other
way to say that this work should be done
what's up
uh the 20-year timeline is a
conservative estimate based on the
expected duration of installing 24
elevators and it really is just
elevators elevators are extremely
specialized construction type
they take minimum about a year to
install
uh we have about three elevator
manufacturers in town
so that supply chain limitation
would could potentially connect distinct
projects creating supply chain
disruptions which we're hearing all
about now
uh
this could easily cause an elevator
project
to be delayed for a year or more so
turning at a school construction site
for
over a year
and then
just to end the this the parallel
accessibility investments like the ones
that we talked about today could elevate
the experience of our students in the
near term while we continue to make
compliance
we don't have anybody in here from
special education but clearly you might
know this i mean
uh do we know how many
students
we
have to reroute away from their
neighborhood schools as
their
for example the kids the school where my
kids went to elementary school uh got an
elevator in 2012. but before that uh
students with any physical disabilities
wouldn't attempt their union school
there
there are
um
for instance i recently visited a middle
school
that they actually moved as a wheelchair
goes through different grade levels and
their multiple levels building the full
grade levels too different for the main
floor to accommodate the wheelchair
because that comes
and another one comes through they move
classrooms around from four to four so
it's not really an ideal situation
but it really it depends we make it very
individualized
uh elevators are
something that is needed
in
this is not just about accessing the
classroom either it's about the
cafeteria and the library it's the whole
um
it's just
it's not just students too there's
there's yeah
yeah staff members
it is
not accessible
all right you have any other questions
you have a new one
um
other than the 20 elevators are there
are the 24 overviews are there other
things that would happen
it would take 20 years
the elevators are the driver for that
duration they're by far the most
expensive accessibility
yeah
but what i meant is are you not going to
do other things because you have like
this the whole argument like well when
we do the elevator we do x y and z
so by saying like
this the elevators take 20 years does
that mean the other xyz are going to
happen
on that long time frame i see what you
mean so the the multi-level improvements
like restaurants
the multi-level so improvements to
restrooms on the second level of the
building without an elevator is phased
is grouped by the elevator for that
building
we could move that off
um
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i'm going to be in the same place i was
before because i don't think the
timeline has immediately changed i um
i said the aba passed a long time ago
and i totally look like i'm totally
supportive of um we need to do more than
the transition plan but also like i
don't
i think waiting another 20 years and
that's dependent on all the bonds
passing
is too long for the basics um
another big basics plus i
i would hope you have like a more a more
robust plan because i i do believe that
playgrounds
would
in combination with
a shorter timeline make really
measurable improvements uh for students
but waiting 20 years and this and then
not not necessarily even moving plans
and other things i'm not
i'm not applying
or just say no potentially
um i'm gonna certainly work for the next
bond and look to file for improvements
but i think also to be able to look for
more like you need a bigger plan so
having
just an ada plan which is sort of the
floor like i'd rather i'm always a big
believer like what's the vision and then
we can fund it versus
finding the funding and then having the
vision following pieces so
i think when people aren't inspired by
the vision that they
um
do amazing things that's right
so since we are going to be voting on
this one to recommend
yes
um
sorry
hi i'm mike rosen and i'm the board
chair of um disappearance
we're an organization representing 5 000
families
i am testifying today to ask the
facilities and operations committee to
reject the draft need me transition
the reasoning is simple easy to ask
my organization supported the last
construction bonding because it
allocated 313 million dollars to the
first floor that was fully accessible
we were told at the time that we cost an
additional 70 million
clear that part of our support is
contingent on tps finishing the job
now we are being focused on that
this is unacceptable to us
this plan must be revised to assert that
the next six
seven million dollars to complete the
job and that the work would be getting
immediately
finally
i want to take issue with the public
outreach program
to seek feedback on the development
graphic transition
in the prioritization section of the
plan it says and i quote
recognizing that the district has
limited funds and cannot immediately
make law schools fully accessible
district stakeholders and committee
members
were asked to consider their
organization criteria
so before the process of reading it
would start the district misleads
this does not need to be a process of
transition racial equity social justice
civil rights in the law
cannot be doled out in the convenience
of the district what the district should
have said is that through the capacity
of bonding we can correct this injustice
with deep ace help us plan for that just
hello i'm angela jarvis holland
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and this photo
is the signing of aba 31 years ago this
woman's a friend of mine
she said did god another 20 years when i
told her what was being discussed
i do not think it's appropriate to
discuss the civil and human rights of
people to belong in a law that was
passed
and this is an ada plan
and
when we discuss an ada plan and say as a
district we accept 20 years do we really
reach for anything
do we really have a commitment to equity
and the health disparities and racism of
this country mean there are more people
of color with disabilities that are
impacted by these decisions
and do you know what it means if you say
that you don't have multi-level
access it means you systemize
segregation
you decide that you will solve it by
sending children with disabilities to
the schools that are accessible
you further marginalize them and the
message it sends to the community is
we don't really care about people with
disabilities they do not belong
there are volunteers there are teachers
there are students you could have shown
the video of the students that a student
from cleveland made and you could have
shown one that has my son who has a
significant disability who ends it by
saying finish the job in the next bond
i'm going to ask you to really think
hard about what you want to agree to
an ada plan is about ada minimums yes we
want more than that but that ada plan in
past
gives the opportunity and there will be
changes in hierarchies in stat
and we will be back where i was 14 years
ago advocating again and again for the
same cam that gets kicked down the road
these are real people in real life and
if you need to stand for equity you have
to say
take this back and look at it again 20
years and that timeline does not work
and yes i sound very passionate because
i am
and i don't disrespect any of the words
of the parent here the person that went
that founded parker's playground went
through a training of our organization
to be
learning about how to avoid the
segregation that systemically happens in
eps and as a friend of mine
so i think there was a bit of smoke and
mirrors about this getting into other
discussions this is a legal ada plan
that would mean that pps would have to
comply with that timeline
and i'd like to see that timeline
changed
thank you
thank you
i have a question about about that point
angela because you know
this is a really difficult conversation
because what you have laid out is
rooted in
pragmatism and sort of feasibility
because you can't make any commitments
for any future bonds or any future
decisions by boards that are different
than
our board now um but it's not my
understanding that this would be a legal
commitment it's my understanding that
what we have is this is a minimum this
is the floor of what we expect and i
think
with a little bit of i mean i would be
happy to work on resolution on this
our board resolution but i think with a
little bit of um
more
uh
positive and visionary language about
what we aspire
to do
i think we can find a happy medium we
can commit ourselves to these minimal
commitments but also somehow
express uh
our intention to accelerate that work
but it's really tricky when we're
talking about policy language because we
can't make any commitments for anything
that's bond funded and we can't make any
commitments for
future
force but that said um
i think we can really make it clear that
this is this is our minimal expectations
for how we're going to have an inclusive
district
i mean do you want to just abuse me of
any of that based on just the
the tricky bureaucratic compliance
aspect of this
no i agree with that 100 i would support
that wholeheartedly
um i'll just say like this is really
challenging for me my wife is a
wheelchair user and photographed in many
of the pictures here and this is
extremely challenging this work should
be done but i think if we were
to commit to doing this in the next
month 2024
i think there is a very high probability
that we would fail
and that's not based on money it's it's
market capacity it's just
we just yeah
we're running into manufacturing
roadblocks they're very real
00h 55m 00s
yes so we have um dr
aisha musa
hi thank you i'm dr aisha musa my last
name is spelled m like mary you s like
sam a
i hold a ba in an mit from portland
state and a phd from harvard and i'm
addressing you today as a concerned
disabled taxpaying citizen of portland
my family has a history with the
portland public schools my maternal
grandfather was a teacher and principal
in portland throughout the 1920s 30s and
40s
in 1965 i was denied entry to my
neighborhood elementary school buckman
because of my disability
we were told that i could only enroll in
the holiday center for the handicapped
my mother and i visited that school
i don't remember the school at all but
i'll never forget my mother's reaction
we got back in the car and she turned to
me and said
you're not going to that school i would
not send my pet pig to that school
you're going where you can get an
education
we were members of saint francis of
assisi parish and they had an elementary
school
so my mother arranged with the priest
and the school principal to cook
breakfast and lunch five days a week for
the students in the cafeteria so my
brother and i could attend
i share this story with you because now
nearly 60 years later
and nearly 50 years since federal law
required public schools to provide
disabled students with equal access to a
high quality education
portland public schools is asking for
yet another
20 years to provide that access
80
years to provide
access
access delayed is access denied to yet
another generation of portland students
a vote in favor of this transition plan
with the current timeline
is a vote in favor of the continued
segregation and marginalization of
disabled students
that concludes my remarks thank you
and now i will share a video from harvey
yes
is on
it should come through the polycon um
hi everybody
thank you
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is
the plan that's being presented doesn't
have anything with you necessarily
01h 00m 00s
acceptance
um
attention
okay
with a um
the video included a
teacher from
the school foundation that experiences a
disability and she's
very disappointed to her 20 years
the person that did the video is also a
student so for me the school board
members bringing that voice from people
who are in school
is really important so i appreciate that
you're going to look at that video
um
all right so
i have a couple
couple comments
um i don't believe conditions can happen
waiting to begin
i think the learning like um director
confidence was saying can be worth a
differently to
to show the emergency that we want to
have but knowing the realities of
what's going to make those happen
um and so i think if we can
go back and kind of put those wordings
in there to show that we are we are
urgent we want to get this done and we
want to make sure you fall in love we
want to make sure we do what's right by
our kids
um
with the caveat
but these are the stuff that we haven't
gone through a lot of stuff
on the sunday and somebody comes then
like you said you could be
done
um so i think that would
i mean that would be like the best
person actually
um
so leaving one team
recognizing this in the back you come
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01h 05m 00s
are we looking at accepting
the ada transition plan as a war just
being reefed on it and accepting it or
being asked to vote on it is there a
requirement for approval or is it
silently just it needs to have there is
a requirement
oh there it is
so we do need to vote on it that's
correct
so and one one thing that i would say is
that
this is a plan showing what we need to
accomplish um and even goes beyond that
in terms of
what is important in terms of
accessibility for our students and
families
so
and then remembering that the board also
has the decision-making process around
putting bond pathogens together right so
there's going to be much further
discussion
i think i think all of us agree that we
need to do this work as soon as possible
but this is not something that we want
to have our community
what we want is accessibility
for all of our our communities
and what we have to look at is
logistically
how many elevators can we order of a
year and receive them
and how much do those costs and how much
of the bond package financially is that
going to
take and so then the board will
ultimately make that decision
because we're putting bond packages
together every four years
on how much we're putting in for many
significant programs
throughout
so i don't think this
signs our hands to a specific timeline
this is stating this is what we want
need to accomplish and what we need to
do
in our district
okay so can we can we
articulate that in 88 would you just say
i know we'll get the second agent there
we can articulate that
and i wonder if it's in the plan maybe
to a resolution or maybe a little bit of
both like first certainly in the
resolution and i'm happy to work on that
and it sounds like that has to be to say
if it's coming
yeah i mean tomorrow for next week you
can vote out of the community um i i
think if you having the document though
20 years from
now you know i've been around pts for 50
years and
um
you know staff and board members come
and go
and i know like we've had our first vote
to put the 33 and i want to thank
director constance for being the one
other vote that first put the money into
the 33 million years because that wasn't
in the package and that went down like
some midnight vote
and then came back and downloaded in so
i'm
i i worry about having a date and a
transition plan that's approved by the
board that says one thing and then ask
motivational language in a resolution
that may not mean anything or commit
anything so but i think there's maybe a
little bit of misunderstanding or
misrepresentation about how it
is characterized in here i mean i don't
i don't know if
you do feel like there's an ability to
revise some of the language to make sure
that it captures our our full intent or
yeah so
a couple of options here so we could
we could put a condensed time like 10 or
15 years and commit to revisiting
the transition plan itself prior to the
future bonds
as long as we have that common reference
point and that stake in the ground
to guide us
what i don't want to happen though is to
commit to a 10-year plan and then fail
yeah i think that would be devastating
both because we did we are unable to
find the resources or because we're
unable to execute work given the market
conditions i don't i don't want to think
when i kind of know
about elevating it because of the market
and
doing it
so it cannot be articulated as well
exactly the only thing we're talking
about as far as that's gonna take a long
term is the elevator piece knowing that
this
01h 10m 00s
it's also the disruption in the schools
yeah
remembering that if we're trying to do
you know let's say
three elevator projects
right so let's say it's three schools
about disruption so
it may make sense to do investors
separately from the lawyer
because you're not going to expect
school too much it might make sense
together because they really
they will disrupt it less by doing
quality
so i just want to say logistics
sometimes actually doing work
they're always trying to get it as
quickly as possible
you can't make history
this is that's the exact same question i
asked
maybe a half an hour ago about the x y
and z in addition to the elevators
because it's just it's
and i don't want to use the elevators
but
is it like the elevators in xyz and i
think you want to ask the question and
i've heard it's like oh we can still do
x y z often with you know there i think
there's only twenty four schools that
made it believers but there's probably
more than twenty four schools that need
accessibility issues as well before
right so there's going to be projects
moving forward in lots of other tools
with elevators
so
that's that's the piece where it's going
to say it's going to take less time
because we
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there's no specific
deadline but what i'm what i think i'm
hearing is let's make some some changes
to the language not substantive changes
more directional genes
and then we can bring that back and i
think right now we're on the agenda for
the transition plan go to the next board
meetings people need to pull that off
it's a lot of time to develop the plan
then probably probably
that june uh
that doesn't have an official impact
it doesn't and especially now with the
phase one and phase two of the plan
awesome any other questions comments
around this
all right let's get to the thank you
guys for the presentation
thank you
let's go to the parks
in the government
really quick i would like
that would be so great
um so yeah this is an update on the
portland parks and recreation i
ai was i don't have a collaboration
agreement
whatever um
and so this it will actually be fairly
quick um the purpose of it as many of
you know is is to provide both of us pbs
and pb r with accessibility to different
kinds of assets
um the current one expires at the end of
this year
working for about 18 months on this i
think marshall's actually on the phone
as well
thanks and so we just we spent about a
year
going through with a consultant um
really kind of airing things out i have
to say the relationship between the two
entities has not been good
and there was just a lot of anxiety and
everybody convinced that they're going
to be shorter than the stick so
it's tremendously time consuming to go
through all of the detail of that but it
was i think a really good thing for us
to do as a team so
um as mind-numbing as those meetings can
be i think that we're absolutely
essential
so what we have decided to do now is we
have an agreement with parks on our
sports agreement we're going to go back
to the way we used to handle this where
we bifurcated the real estate piece and
the sports piece
01h 15m 00s
so
the sports piece is where we're at right
now that'll be ready to go to the board
of january also has to go to city
council because they'll pass more than
fifty thousand dollars
um
when you say buy for paid you mean two
survivor intergovernmental agreements
absolutely not really okay yes
so
that's that's what we're uh we finished
that first part and of course like i
said this is primarily for our benefit
of our athletics department
yeah is this presentation also posted
uh
i don't know
so
is are there two things that are coming
um
to us are they um
about all the specific properties or is
it a larger like a larger framework so
the first thing that will come is the
athletic agreement and this is all of
our exchange of assets between the two
entities
um
and all that detail
actually
then would world start will become a
real estate piece in january
that is
as complicated as this was that will be
uh much more political
of the difference between real real
estate
because a lot of this seems like it's
connected to both who's going to pay to
improve grant park um when we don't
you know
access access right the beautiful pooch
that's on our property in which pieces
each of that like so let's take grant or
benson's um
so city property
pbs uses it like benson you know they
they're leasing it out to you know uh
another school
it varies
so is that in the real estate or in the
sports
that's in the real estate what the
sports does it says here's our agreement
on how we're going to share our assets
we're going to give you this many hours
of food and you're going to give us this
many hours
we get into
capital investments and we've discussed
not wanting to put capital into each
other's properties
that's where the real estate piece comes
in because
benson's a great example of a huge
problem that we have
dan and i just met from parks last week
and said
you have to we need you to commit to
fixing this
this is so important
and you know they're in the same
position we are in the sense of being
able to make future money
but they recognize the defense and
they're willing to have that to be part
of hard work this is priorities to them
as well so i think
that but what you're talking about when
you talk about whether or not we
are going to put money into something
and have exclusive use or something like
that
the sports is really the
here's you know 50 000 hours that we're
exchanging and all the places that we're
doing
so we actually agree that hours
agreement yes yes we shall serve as our
babies
so we can go forward
yeah
one of the biggest things that was
important for us to get was we had to
build schedule change from uh we needed
four to seven which parks felt was
costing them you know at least a hundred
thousand dollars a year in and
revenue that they would be losing
but we were able to get that and we gave
them more access to gyms for volleyball
and volleyball
volleyball was not in the original
agreement and that's an important
component for them
so
i won't read through all of those uh he
go back for sure
what about
specifically the clause in our prior
intergovernmental agreement that was not
honored by parks and rec which gives
public schools for first right
to taxpayer private part facilities
so as we start to get to right now this
is our this is our
balance we will i want to say equity
because it's not cool exactly that the
use of each other's uh
they have given us everything that we
want
that they have to give so this agreement
now says you're getting this priority
i don't know does that make sense
uh
well does it specifically
address that clause which is that if
there is a need for a certain parks and
rec facility
um by public schools then we have first
right to that because that was a
specific clause in our prior agreement
that was not routinely not honored by
them yes so that they could double them
i totally get it actually though
partly it was because pbs didn't was i'm
going to make capital
um
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i'm willing to put money into like the
benson project that was you know like st
mary's came in and pcu came in and said
we'll put this amount in and pps was the
last to the table
and
you know they came in finally with some
money and they got the time they asked
for but
they weren't like first to the table so
i i hope that we are matching our we
want to be prosperity but also that
we're going to be making an investment
because we passed it those there wasn't
there wouldn't be a field there but for
the fact that pc
saint mary's put money
i understand
um in this agreement
what what we'll say
actually is that this that if there's
anything here that we cannot do
then we will make
we're going to make sure we do
everything we can to provide something
else so we have to kick somebody off in
the field
because you maybe pbs needs to move for
some reason that happens with parts
then we have the criteria for that so
you'll probably we haven't gotten all
the language completely done on them yet
so i'm guessing you probably don't want
to see the detail
we keep going and see where we okay
yeah um the other things that came out
of it were
uh ppr
reduced their reserves on our fields by
about two thirds which was great freedom
a lot more fields for us
um
and we have agreed that while we're
agreeing to this is an equitable sort of
sharing
um anything that is direct cost will be
paid so custodial for example you know
that's a big issue to them
um so we have so we've gone through the
athletic staff on both sides and come up
with these exchanges and then this will
be a three-year rolling agreement so
that on the second year we're back to
saying okay what's our baseline for the
next three years so that we're not every
year going through
hundreds of hours of okay we need
mondays and tuesdays from three to seven
it gets really complicated and it was
cell nessie before
that it was just a constant source of
irritation
marshall did you want to add anything
yeah i wanted to uh get good afternoon
everyone i wanted to add
um
back to amy's point um because i know
there's some very specific properties
that we wanted like done away
and what we were able to do was to look
at all our athletic programming across
our system
and they decide what fields we're going
to use
over this three year period and make
sure we had what we need in order to get
our athletic programming done
in that there are some agreements that
park bureau does have where they
like buckman where they have agreements
with outside parties and we have to
basically work around that
during this one to the end of whatever
those contracts are
what's
i don't know how long dunaway is enough
you may know buckman um they they're on
their last extension and they probably
have another nine years to go
um parks has said they absolutely don't
want to do that anymore but you know
nine serves those yeah all the big
investments
they had they had an original agreement
and it had an extension option
and then the other part of that comment
is
that if there were places that
we
that they traditionally had permitted to
someone else
um and we were programming somewhere
else we weren't able to just go we're
going to take that from you
they it was more like okay well where
were you using it we want to make sure
you get that and get to 7 o'clock which
was which was a greater priority for us
the 4-7 shift was heathcliff
you can't have that
so marshall's team's done an amazing job
i have to say uh on the incredible level
of detail at since kirsten trying to get
this atlantic agreement put together
so we're starting to draft that now
we're hoping that that will go to city
council and our board in january maybe
early february it takes about a month to
get something on the council so
it's
longer than non-process it needs to be
approved by both entities and we'll
start working on the real estate use
so marshall do you feel like this is an
improvement uh it's significant i think
um as we said
been able to go from four to seven with
our late bill schedule
uh was
incredibly important
um i also think that
um to be able to go to
detail for each particular facility
so like at pier park where
we thought we might want to play
softball in the past
uh we're able to go and look okay do we
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really want to play here okay if we do
then what needs to happen we got to have
lights how does that happen can you do
lights i mean we're able to go to that
detail on the properties which i think
in my tenure was the only time we've
gone that deep so i think that was
really really good as well
and then i um i think the other thing
that
well maybe what the most important thing
was
that we were able to identify
um
who was getting the best
part of this deal i think that was a
a
a
really sticky point because we felt they
were taking advantage of us they thought
we were taking advantage of them but
better go through the process i think we
were able to clarify that
and then uh
be able to move forward with
with some
um clear understanding about where we
both are
so everybody's happy because it's
sub-optimal for both of us
awesome it's terrible for us
for the taxpayers we're good
[Laughter]
it's like she wrote
i guess i'll say one other thing now you
guys got me going here um is there are
things that we didn't get amy because
they don't have like we need more pool
time right
we need more turf fields that are
baseball softball i mean those kind of
things they don't have
so we
we didn't get but the things that we
could get i do think we got
majority of what we could have asked for
in the deal
i think both sides did i don't think we
have much more to give than neither do
they
we use
there just isn't capacity in the city
and this is more like a
political question but
do you have an agreement with two
elected bodies that have to agree to it
um
hey my neighborhood you know part
doesn't have x y and
z is it um
how is it going to be previewed or is it
just going to be here's the whole thing
it's like yes or no
um i don't know that's not your question
i'm just like yeah i know
i i understand i have shared this
yesterday i shared this powerpoint just
this very high level of saying hey we're
starting to work on the language but
it's been going on so long i felt like i
needed to give you guys an update
um
and and they'll want to i'm sure share
that internally as well
how this goes to council i don't know
like what their process is before that
presumably there's some kind of
education session or something that for
just lands
um
yeah
us i'm just curious like when we get it
and it's like
hey here's here it's it's it's all
interconnected so it's a one thing
and you'll have time to like look at it
and ask questions about it and it's one
thing and the council will have the same
thing
so i would hate to have it be like the
school resource officer where
like we got the agreement
and then
the city ever
it was just like it was lopsided so like
the mechanics of something that maybe is
like has been
contentious to help make sure that we
have a
path that
like we pass it and then they're like
hey i want to pull out these three or
four other perks and we want to do
something different and then we're like
we just passed it right
and so the way we're structuring this is
um the iga that's currently in place
we'll extend that for
several months so that we have that
there and then as we replace the
athletics piece we still have a real
estate piece covered too bad
that stokes expires
um
but i know what you're saying i think
i don't think this agreement will be
that complicated um i mean we'll have an
addendum that like we'll show the
schedule so we really said this is it
but it's not going to be the specific of
uh
you know hey we want to make sure we
have basketball
so tonight was just intended to be like
here's an update we want to wait under
the water we're going to get you the
draft as well so you can write comments
and then before the opposite feels
but we also want to make sure we're
walking hand in hand with the city so
we're not completely out in front of
them and so before maybe we have draft
we get some sort of feedback from them
you know you guys testing the waters on
your side that this is largely
acceptable or exactly some deal breakers
okay
yeah absolutely all right
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any more
questions thank
um
there's another
item we want to continue that home but i
don't want to do this
time
all right being able to post on it to
the next
week
i've got a short presentation i can go
through probably three minutes
um
it's basically the update that one to
the floor last week it's more or less
not just providing some more context to
round it up okay we get three more
minutes from everyone to go through it
okay so just just a question
all yeah
so i write i did read the update
so is there something for the
contemplation of that certain point in
time they'll be able to specimen
or this is just like to elevate it in
public you know much better
yeah and there was a public
communication there was a communication
that went out uh this week
and then it was really just to make sure
everyone understands where we are kind
of the context the background and the
process going forward what that looks
like so that was the the intention of
this discussion so i guess i have a
powerpoint it's a handful of slides it's
basically just pictures more less i just
kind of walk through the context
all right so can we hear them first and
then we'll go into yours that way we can
kick in
so i'll tell you what
um if you could do the public comic
books
awesome
um
let's go with the public comments first
we have cody vickinson please should be
able to underneath now
uh yes i'm here
um good evening my name is cody
dickinson
last name spelled
d-i-c-k
i-n-s-o-n
and i speak to you today as a sophomore
student at lincoln high school
i am here to address how the lack of
equitable opportunities for student
extracurricular participation and
availability of recreational areas are
due to the lack of multi-use field space
within the lincoln cluster
the impact of this reality that there is
a drastic effect on pbs sports
people are testifying about the current
health and safety issues but i'm
testifying to tell you how the building
of this field will help fix these
problems
the implementation of this field will
not only add a great facility it will
also improve the community and people
around it
due to the recent pandemic there has
been little outside engagement and
unhealthy habits in our community a
multi-purpose field in an easy to access
space or develop interest in the
community
i've experienced this firsthand as a
person who grew up in a community that
integrated a multi-purpose feel instead
of staying inside we would play outside
this integration improved our healthy
habits outside engagement and got us
more interested in playing sports
i think that this new field would have a
similar effect
the field would cause more interest to
go aside and increase the enrollment in
local sports
this enrollment is very important to our
sports right now many pbs sports have
lost players and participation due to
lack of facilities i have five friends
that
have left portland public schools for
local private schools due to the
availability of facilities and fields
that other schools have
if we build this field the community as
a whole will benefit as well as pps
athletics
i believe we can agree this is
unacceptable your approval of the
development of multi-use field space at
wells sylvan to be compute to be
completed in 2022 will remedy this issue
for our community please take action now
thank you for your service and
consideration
thank you
[Music]
later but it's my understanding this is
like being freeze like this is the
surplus of like the funds would be used
but
the
2020 bond had to cover 180 million
dollars um that the 2017 bond was short
to finish benson so i guess i don't
understand how we would have any surplus
because
we were short 180
um million by 2020 bonds so
i i'm just i'm
going to make my hair
important dryer been characterized as a
surface
there are unmet needs there are on a
variety of fronts right but i guess
that's you
i'm thinking about and this is anyone
just full disclosure i have a son who
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played baseball for me for weekends so
i've seen how bad gabriel park is and
i've also been played on every other
baseball if you've
been to every other baseball field in
else um
four years
um so i recognize the need i guess i'm
just thinking about the funding because
it seems like it's coming out of the
2017 bond
um and whatever it's called it's coming
out of the 2017 bond my understanding is
that we were 180 million dollars short
so
i guess i'm not quite seeing how it fits
but that that's a bigger question since
we're not looking at it too well but
that's kind of what i want to see and
then i think about all the other needs
in the city
in sports and there are many
um of
how we
allocate if it's being you know used to
just bond funding how we're going to
help you yeah okay
that's your advance for the patient
i just want to respond one quick thing
and
you're very sensitive to this i know but
one of the
complicating factors in this
conversation has been that people tend
to conflate the long-term needs of the
lincoln cluster for athletic facilities
with the commitments that have been made
for swing space during construction and
the fact that
there's no no where to play and so we do
have an obligation there's a difference
of opinion as to exactly how that was
characterized in the master plan there's
actually a discrepancy between the
commitment that the district made to the
community about swing spaces during
construction and the way that it was
explicitly
articulated in the master plan which is
really unfortunate but
it's two different things we're not
talking about investing from the 2017
bond and the long-term needs for the
athletic
facilities in the cluster we're talking
about the commitment that we've made
about swing space i'll watch
i'm gonna run through this quick so
uh at the last committee meeting we
heard public comment recommending
improvements at uh west sylvan to
support lincoln athletics we just heard
it again uh plus there's been some
recent email other communication
conveying the same message
uh and so committee members who have
been uh been at vps for a while on a new
issue a new topic and staff has provided
updates uh did a couple times back in
2020 and then just again recently last
week but we thought it'd be worthwhile
to uh review the topic again tonight
so uh let's start with a little bit of
context i want to go through this quick
and then it'll make sense in a minute i
hope
um so
big picture context pbs modernization
projects start development of a project
specific master plan master plans are
effectively the marrying of these items
here ppss education specifications along
with community and stakeholder
engagement and existing site conditions
building conditions and school programs
master planning process is very like but
typically they're about three to six
months
master plans are ultimately approved by
the board to effectively align the
project scope schedule and budget and
more to the point what master plans do
is they define the project parameters
and then direct the project team to go
and design and construct the project as
approved the project teams returned to
the board if there are any significant
changes in the scope of work from what
is improved in the master plan
uh touching on each one of those three
items very quickly our education
specifications uh are also approved by
the board
uh pbs has developed at specs for
various school configurations within
high school of middle school ka and k5
and the primary function of the ed specs
is to identify the number type size and
function of each teaching and learning
space so thick number of science labs
size and media centers uh et cetera
uh and ed specs are really the master
planning jumping off
uh existing site conditions unique
school programs these things necessitate
deviations from the generalized ed spec
guidance
and the final project specific master
plans those denote the deviations from
the inspects
uh community engagement and stable
engagement is exactly like it sounds
during master planning is when this
engagement kicks off earnest notably
it's when our public-facing design
advisory groups are stood up
those groups include the school
principal students parents community
members uh the school alumni association
typically there's business
representatives uh board members are
part of it as well and one
and then feedback obtained from
community and stakeholders helped shape
the project and master plan
and then finally existing conditions in
school programs so each school program
building campus is unique
it must be carefully considered during
development of the master plan and
in-depth discussions with school staff
and district instructional leaders
begins in master planning but continues
throughout the course of the project
so
uh
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now getting closer to the point uh
lincoln like all the modernizations uh
has followed this process of the board
approved leaking master plan in august
2018 uh and like all master uh
modernizations lincoln's master plan
does not align perfectly with the
inspects certain aspects of monetization
are below uh the the general ed specs
for example number of open flex spaces
and outdoor athletic facilities
are both the specs whereas other areas
exceed such as the dedicated resting
room the photo lab and dark room
uh of course there's always robust
discussion about these trade-offs during
development
swing space getting closer to the point
uh
is an important component of all master
plans and it's and swing is a term that
we
use to refer to activities that are
displaced because of construction
and notably i think this is this is
where west sylvan enters the
conversation
um but construction by nature
often causes service impacts and the
bigger the project often the bigger the
disruption so for schools like mcdaniel
franklin grant and benson polytech now
construction disrupted the school's
operations completely uh requiring all
of those schools activities to to move
off site two locations
uh lincoln was in the unique position
that allowed the majority of school
functions to remain intact with minimal
disruption by remaining in the old
school building while the new school was
constructed on the site of the old track
and field which you can kind of see here
but removal of the tracking field for
construction caused those activities to
have to find locations during the build
generally uh to determine the best
option for swimming activities
modernization project teams work closely
with department and school staff to
identify analyze and coordinate with
temporary location relocations
uh for lincoln track and field there's
no one perfect other tracking field out
there to move all the sites to so a
variety of options are currently being
utilized including ricky hamilton park
wells wallace park and others
initially west 7 was viewed as a
potential option for some field swing
sports
i think mostly it was for practices and
i think workouts as well not so much for
games
uh however to use west sylvan
improvements were needed to extend the
hours of use uh and so mainly what would
needed was lights so we could send ours
use there's some minor fencing concerns
as well
installation of new lights required a
conditional use approval from the city
of beaverton that's what the school is
uh and this i think is really the
starting point of the confusion and some
of the conversations about west silva
as required the project team submitted a
conditional use application to the city
of impertinent and early 2020.
uh eventually beaverton planning staff
recommended approval of the conditional
use the planning commission agreed and
it was approved
subsequent to that approval uh the the
west silva neighborhood association
appealed the decision to city council
uh the new restation neighborhood
association generally opposed the
project and their their aim was to limit
the use of the fields
so uh staff we
attempted to work with the neighborhood
association prior to going to city
council
ultimately it did go to city council
they approved the conditional use but
they added conditions of approval onto
that
this decision materially changed the
usability of the field for
lincoln athletics and added significant
costs in the form of required
right-of-way and site improvements
the combination of less usability and
additional costs caused a devaluation of
west sylvan as a useful swing site and
the team then turn their efforts to
other temporary locations such as reiki
where we do have temporary field lights
now really to the point
uh
separate from the lincoln monetization
project there's been ongoing discussions
about the lack of permanent facilities
at lincoln for
some out some outdoor athletic programs
such as softball and baseball
so west sylvan had been considered a
potential site for permanent location of
these programs
in an effort to provide additional
information regarding the validity using
west sylvan as a permanent home for
lincoln athletics the latest application
that was submitted to the city of eriton
also included athletic improvements not
associated with the modernization
project including
uh a synthetic turf field and softball
on baseball field furnishings so no
funding was identified for the scope and
no schedule was set for the improvements
and even though staff was clear with
beaverton planning staff that this is a
two-parter where the first part is
funded the lights and the fencing the
second part is not
ultimately those that that detail got
lost in the broader context
wrap it up
uh so just to be clear currently there
are no improvements planned for west
sylvan neither the short term the lights
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in the fencing or swing site or
the larger build out as i noted earlier
this is not a new topic and there is
clearly some uh support and community
interest in proving muslim for lincoln's
use
um
so there is a potential plan moving
forward there are two relevant factors
here there's no identified funding for
the west living project and the project
has not been authorized by the board
but the plan forward is this
the lincoln modernization project team
led by eric gerding here uh it has been
asked to take a look uh oh let me back
up the lincoln project
is currently progressing well but there
is still a lot of risk out there with
the volatile construction market with
the supply chain issues we've seen
there's still plenty of risk in the
project and it's still got
a year and a half or almost to go or
maybe more for full completion
uh but we have asked the team to take a
look that has near's completion if there
is savings within that project
that could support
some or all of the west civil
improvements
the lincoln modernization steering
committee will convene and they will
discuss and they could recommend that
that those budget savings be spent
by silver
uh and to be clear we don't know that
yet the earliest that we think we would
be comfortable with saying that there
will be
savings would be next summer but that
could certainly change we are seeing the
market act and change and react rapidly
right now
uh but in the event that there is
savings and the committee does make a
recommendation to allocate those savings
to best sellers the board can authorize
the allocation of those
questions
yeah so we talked about the savings uh
from the
foundation
all those things can be used to
add
to the
still been
expansion on the modernization for the
field
multiple fields where else can that
money be used for
can that go back to the general fund for
contingencies on other projects or
it's a great question so the funds can
be used for anything that north korea
wants to tackle this but anything that
the bond language allows
uh so generally when there are savings
what you're going to do is you're going
to want to hold on to those funds to
make sure that the projects that you
have already approved you want to make
sure that those get completed so that at
the end of the day with all of your
projects
but the bond language is relatively
broad and so it can be used for other
purposes
uh and for
scope that is not approved or or
specifically identified within the bond
the board is going to make the decision
how to allocate
folks
to make sure that we are within the
definition of condensability which we'll
look at inside the
scope of the image bond measure
we'll also look at
ensuring for example the capital
improvements
suggested to maintenance of
to your question gary i mean
historically in a couple of times where
there have been contingency plans
available the two things that the
project teams look at are
where were
their value engineering decisions that
were made maybe early on that we could
possibly build back things that had been
cut the other is where is there a real
um
uh
deviation from the end specs like dan
was talking about like where is this
where is it clear that this project is
not meeting our heads back and is there
anything we could do
to address that at this time um
we don't have to belabor this i just
want to uh
react to a couple things in your
presentation dan one is that um
he kind of tried to wrap it up pretty
neat and tidy that the
conditions put upon the west seldom work
by the city of beaverton
devalued the the potential for that site
and that's not that's not at all how
it's perceived by the community or those
who are involved in athletic programming
it did it did limit the hours but it
would still add considerable
time and field use possibilities for
student athletes so it does it did not
um
it did not eliminate the value of uh
what those improvements would mean for
student athletes yeah just and
to agree with that point when i said the
value it was specifically looking at
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what what someone was used for for swing
purposes where they needed those later
hours
because it was in the darker months so
and even within that it still adds
to it but
anyway
um
i
i think uh
there's a real disagreement within the
community that there there absolutely
have not been
um equitable accommodations made for
athletics swing uses during construction
as we heard from a lot of students and
families um really really inequitable
untenable and unsafe conditions that
students are being put into if they want
to participate in athletics during
construction
um
maybe on paper you know it's like send
them here for this and i'm there for
that but it doesn't work it's not work
and that is a commitment that was made
it's really unfortunate that those of us
who had eyes on it back then way back
when um
weren't more diligent about making sure
that the master planning language was
very specific
about how to about what those
swing
accommodations would be because now
that's being thrown back in the face of
the community saying well we can't we
can't do it because it didn't
specifically say that these improvements
would be made so
yes it's great to see that the project
team wants to look at you know whether
or not that long-term value can be added
in late in the project and it's fully
within the range of appropriate uses um
that doesn't do anything for the student
athletes who are
um
you know being denied a
reasonable
way to participate um in the meantime
during
construction and that's really perceived
as a broken promise
in the community so
uh i mean
personally i've been trying to
respond to people about what this
situation is i've been trying to
advocate for people and it's uh i've
gotten there have been more roadblocks
on this than just about any issue that
i've worked on which is kind of ironic
because a lot of them are really more on
the face of them much more serious
um so it you know i don't see a path
forward for the district to meet its
commitments to student athletes during
construction and it's just
it's uh it's very
uncomfortable and sad to be put in a
position to have to
just
admit that to the community like sorry
you know we just
we we through a condition through a
combination of very difficult um
you know lack of resources in that area
which is nobody's fault and the lack of
commitment and foresight for the
district on how to address it during
construction
you're just you know out of luck and we
got kids on the freeway from coming from
10 8 miles away at 11 o'clock at night
so good luck with that
it's kind of where we are unless
somebody decides that it really matters
anyway i i understand um
my daughter is in the same position uh
people with convincing peace and
you know her being able to move out to
marshall it was an interview for her and
so we moved you know so i i understand
and i did it for the whole facility that
was another reason
oregon city and to sandy for her
practices and all that stuff so i i
totally understand i appreciate what
you're saying
is there any other questions
or comments
marshall you have anything you want to
say
we can't hear you if you're talking yes
well first i laughed and said gary why'd
you call me out but okay
[Laughter]
well i i think i think i i don't want to
diminish the fact that
oh i guess i want to take the
opportunity to again reiterate
that as we've done value engineering as
we've done these
projects
you know there has not been an
investment in athletics
and so as amy's talking about wes sylvan
i think that the the
it's a part of the bigger question of
are we going to make a commitment so
that our kids are not needing to go to
private schools because they get to be
in nice athletic facilities
are we going to make sure across our
system that we have
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equitable athletic facilities so when we
have the phenomenal facility at
mcdaniel but then at
roosevelt we didn't finish
you know grant we really didn't finish
at franklin we didn't finish right and
so it's almost like we we did this great
thing
almost great right we link is going to
be phenomenal but we still didn't take
care of athletics roosevelt's but
we did and i just hope that we can see
that that has to change and this board
will make that commitment the second
thing i want to say
um is that amy i i concur
that this is a very unfortunate
situation
and that
um hopefully as soon as possible we can
figure out
how to
um
it's not correct or wrong but make sure
that we don't get in this position again
in terms of the details of
language around projects because the the
collateral damage is immense in the
lincoln community
and then the last thing i'll say is you
know as we look for the investments you
know we are looking to
add middle schools uh to our athletic
portfolio because our middle school
program has over five thousand kids
uh almost the same amounts we have in
high school and we're sharing with the
high school facilities
uh in our long-term uh facility plan
middle there are eight middle schools
that we're asking to be
complete
and i do think that whether it's
today whether it's a decision or an
august there's a decision or when long
term we do need to make sure we do have
those eight middle schools of which west
sylvan is one of those schools that we
we think needs to be done
thank you
any other questions concerning comments
awesome well we will adjourn thank you
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