2021-05-10 PPS School Board Policy Committee Meeting
District | Portland Public Schools |
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Date | 2021-05-10 |
Time | 16:00:00 |
Venue | Virtual/Online |
Meeting Type | committee |
Directors Present | missing |
Documents / Media
Notices/Agendas
Materials
2021 05 10 Policy Committee Planning Worksheet (fbe53b6bf6935672).pdf 2021_05_10_ Policy Committee Planning Worksheet
8.60.040-P Responsible Tech Use Redlined Draft (a688dad046f2f25c).pdf 8.60.040-P Responsible Tech Use Redlined Draft
File Complaint Policy 4.50.032-P (9645e6d659b3f8de).pdf File_ Complaint Policy 4.50.032-P
Matrix of Harassment Policies (ed48fd28cbe23e56).pdf Matrix of Harassment Policies
4.30.060 Student Anti-Harassment and Teen Dating Violence Policy - Redlined Draft (14cd47e26fc878b1).pdf 4.30.060 Student Anti-Harassment and Teen Dating Violence Policy - Redlined Draft
5.10.064 Professional Conduct Policy - Redlined Draft (34d16dcb507ae473).pdf 5.10.064 Professional Conduct Policy - Redlined Draft
5.10.060-P Workplace Harassment policy - Redlined Draft (8b4fe03596c2fe8b).pdf 5.10.060-P Workplace Harassment policy - Redlined Draft
1.80.020 Non-Discrimination Anti Harassment Policy - Redlined Draft (002320e22a7215d9).pdf 1.80.020 Non-Discrimination Anti Harassment Policy - Redlined Draft
5.10.2021 District Foundation Board Policy Commitee Presentation (2def44a9b8dfa18e).pdf 5.10.2021 District Foundation_Board Policy Commitee Presentation
Policy proposed by the Reform PPS Funding Group (87ea68dfd372b7e8).pdf Policy proposed by the Reform PPS Funding Group
Foundation Parent Fundraising Memo 5.3.21 (90098ff374a96cc7).pdf Foundation_Parent Fundraising Memo 5.3.21
Budget Heatmap with Foundation FTE.v2.2 (5756d8f0ee9566e5).pdf Budget Heatmap with Foundation FTE.v2.2
7.10.030-P Foundation Policy Proposed Revisions (bbad5e605b1d5cfd).pdf 7.10.030-P Foundation Policy Proposed Revisions
7.10.020-P Parent Groups And The Schools Proposed Revisions (492cb786e96abc42).pdf 7.10.020-P Parent Groups And The Schools Proposed Revisions
Climate Crisis Response Policy Staff Feedback 5-10-21 (f6d47dc7d6992b4a).pdf Climate Crisis Response Policy Staff Feedback_5-10-21
2.xx.xxx-P Draft Climate Crisis Response Policy (644747f5ce612f03).pdf 2.xx.xxx-P Draft Climate Crisis Response Policy
5.50.020-P Liability of Employees of the District - Redlined Draft (dcea49566ddd44e1).pdf 5.50.020-P Liability of Employees of the District - Redlined Draft
Minutes
Transcripts
Event 1: PPS Board of Education’s Policy Committee Meeting - 5/10/21
00h 00m 00s
um uh
we are convening the uh may 10th
2021 policy committee meeting um
we have another very full agenda for the
next three hours
so we're going to have to be
very disciplined in order to
get through the whole agenda today um
so we have here
um uh myself scott bailey aaron lowery
julia brim edwards and amy constand
who are board members
the first four are members of this
committee
director constance is not a member of
the committee but um
welcome to join we have um
student representative jackson weinberg
do we have any and uh oscar calvert
um and uh and then
we're also gonna be joined by staff sort
of as things
go um so if if the staff can
introduce yourselves as you enter
the discussion will be helpful okay
um can we just leap into the agenda
uh the first item on the agenda
is a revision of the
uh what used to be called a computer use
uh
policy it's now uh the responsible
technology use policy and
um i think travis you're going to
lead us through this um so let me just
let me just bring this up
we've we've talked about this policy
the revisions to the policy um
in pretty good detail over a number of
months
i think we the point at which we left it
at the last
meeting was um at the
very beginning at the top of the policy
under number one scope where we were
looking for some language that kind of
framed up
um what the purpose of this policy
is and some some refined language
to give to sort of set expectations for
students and staff about um
when they what they can expect to happen
or not happen
when they're using district technology
right right so
anyway take it away okay um
see just uh introducing myself from dr
travis pocky from the office of
technology
um and just wanted to kind of come up
with um at least some suggested language
for
for this so i'm gonna try and share my
screen real quick and
this was actually added to the policy
itself as a
proposed revision let me know when my
screen comes up
okay you're up okay um
so really kind of putting some um
some language around the no expectation
of privacy but this is really focusing
on
reasons why we may be doing some of that
monitoring
so citing laws such as the children's
internet protection act the federal
education rights and privacy act
children's online privacy protection act
oregon also has
a couple of laws that surround student
privacy
and uh consumer privacy uh 336.184 and
646 a dot 600
so citing those those laws or others
for reasons both explicit or not
students and staff should have no
expectation of privacy while using pps
systems
so i really appreciate this
proposed updated language um
because i think it gets to a little bit
like here's here's why it's not just a
big brother
thing um so i like this one of the
things that one of the suggestions i
would have is
um i know a lot of people know those
acronyms
um i don't actually i don't actually
know them
all like exactly what they are so maybe
um good to
spell them out and then do the you know
ferpa behind um
and or the acronym behind and then i'm
wondering if
there's an and this is a question maybe
for the lawyers a
um a general description of what the ors
336.184 so if you're not if you're a
non-lawyer it doesn't
00h 05m 00s
mean anything so it that is that the
section of statute that deals with
x just again to try and make
this a more accessible definition to
non-lawyers
i think it does that it just um there's
a way to
put it in um the layperson's
language that
we can add we can add typically we put
the
the um this the
statutes at the bottom of the policy but
we can add language
to that um paragraph that describes what
it
is and then reference the
statute at the bottom of the policy if
that works
that would be great to me that would
make it be like okay i understand
like why pps is doing this
is not some they're trying to invade our
privacy or they're not monitoring us for
law enforcement but
there are you know state and federal
requirements related to
x y and z that
but just less legal language i guess
i think the title of the statute might
provide everything
you need to know it's just the the um
oregon student
information protection act so
would that be sufficient just to cite it
the title what is that
that's the ors 336 184
yes oh so i think it's
uh good to include the laws and
and specifically uh which specific laws
and i think it would be helpful
uh if there's a way to have a
blanket one or two sentence statement
about the reason behind the laws
or kind of a here's why
uh what what is it about
these laws um and student safety
that um would be the grounds where
um we would
look at look at messages look at emails
look at
um texts and so on
so scott i want to make sure we're
distinguishing between two different
things there one is
to have a policy that comply so we are
compliant with federal and state law
and the other is you're asking for new
language in the intro
that says when we would look at um
no just just a
um kind of the rationale
that's more than a listing of laws
um and so if you go further down
um the the language that talks about
fostering safety and security of users
um i think may get to what it is that
you're looking for and i just wondered
if
do you need that at the top as well
because it what we tried to do is
articulate it as we went
as we were further down into the policy
under
um if you look at
uh subsection four
we we repeat again i mean we never took
it out the no expectation of privacy
we talk about
cyber bullying and anti-harassment
things like that
is that do you think we need more than
what's
included um
are those the basic premises for
the laws
um yes
um but one of the other one of the other
aspects we're trying to cover here
is one one of the things i've mentioned
before which is the very
the very nature of systems is that they
are monitored
so you know an alert may trigger that
something something bad was found in
somebody's email
account and that's not because somebody
was going through and manually reading
their sent items it's because
a automated virus scanner went in and
found that
so we're we're looking for
terms of just basic system hygiene in
terms of
of just basic operation of an
environment we're not going to be going
in and manually opening somebody's sent
items it is
monitored though so i think i think
part of what's what director bailey is
getting to travis is
uh um i think they're and i this is your
expertise and mary knows more than i do
00h 10m 00s
but they're i think they're two big
umbrellas one is
we want to protect people from
exploiting you on a system where
otherwise no one else can see because
these are children in our systems
the other is we want to give privacy to
things that are personal to you like
your education records
we want we want to protect that which is
not shared publicly on a regular basis
and can't be by law and we want to keep
sort of
bad people from coming after you and
sending you to
exploiting you or um i mean
there's a whole spectrum of exploitation
that could happen and i think those are
the two
big pieces that these statutes try to
cover
does that help that does and
um and thanks mary the the references in
section four do
are are part of that but that that one
or two
that's that statement was i appreciated
that
um and i also wonder if we should state
you know maintaining a good i.t system
means we do this
this automated not looking for
anything specific but looking for
threats to the system
um which may turn stuff up
four threats to students actually that's
the exploitation part
right and the threats the system may be
threats to individuals
or it may be a ransomware or you know
all that stuff um
and i think it's for those three or at
least two reasons
there will be no expectation of privacy
it it's it's for those reasons but it's
also uh
i mean it's extended to staff as well i
mean
for right well
staff and and our systems i mean our
systems do
monitor and maintain a significant
amount of money um and we want to
protect those like any other
institution would potentially protect
its financial assets yeah
and this does say students and staff so
yeah i think we're covered there
so maybe um
so i think there are three reasons that
have come out
so one is um we want to protect students
against exploitation um we want to
protect
um we want to ensure
that records that need to be
that are protected by law continue to be
protected
and then the third is the integrity of
the of the
the security of the system and maybe if
we could spell out those three reasons
and then if it works out that each of
these
federal or state statutes kind of refers
to
one of those three we could
put those in in parentheses too
i don't know does that help i i'm i
think
i think we're trying to avoid
um having sort of an an endless litany
of reasons why we're doing this if we
could just like
consolidate them
so i mean i feel like we don't need all
the laws
cited and quoted i think if we just say
we're doing this because of
laws and and my concern is that these
things names might change and things
might shift
and so again that involves technically
going back and adjusting the policy
so i i would vote for simpler not
more and and maybe you know a point
a point that we could address here is
this is this is saying what we do um
i think the the why we do it or why we
may do it you know establishing a
probable cause that's
that's probably a completely different
policy right
um what what we're doing is talking
about maintaining the integrity of the
systems
for these purposes um
drilling into the detail may may only
complicate and and create nuance where
we really don't need one or or one just
isn't appropriate
so i put for the next oh go ahead rita
i'm sorry
go ahead oh so i i just wanted to get
some clarity as we
take this back to to wordsmith it
a little bit more uh i've heard
00h 15m 00s
um to to kind of distill it
uh into essentially three buckets
integrity of systems safety of student
what was the third one rita
protecting records um and protecting
records
and then and then i'm hearing keep it
simple
and so what i what i what we can do is
perhaps change that paragraph to
that distilled idea and then move the
references to the specific laws
to the bottom of the policy and spelled
out so it's not acronyms and we can give
put the sites there as well does that
sound
like uh something were for you all
and i think just just what you said mary
in terms of those three bullet points
that that satisfies what i'm looking for
you know just the these laws represent
our values of
we want to protect students privacy we
want to protect
the system we want to protect
uh make sure that students and staff
don't get taken advantage of
uh however you worded it
i think we're good okay
so um i think that works for me
as long as you have something that
indicates that that's
the information is at that end i mean
the other way you could do it is just
put in parentheses
the accurate the
the laws in parentheses afterwards like
right afterwards so that you're not
having to go to the end of the policy
and
connect i don't know that we don't
footnote policies do we
try anything we we typically um
we have put the legal reference that
buttresses the policy
so that has been um what we've done with
a number of our policies we don't
we don't have to but that's been as kind
of a standard
yeah i guess but um and maybe it's that
i don't even read those anymore
um and that it's good to know they're
there if i didn't want to go
there but i guess it's like how would
people connect
a string of statutes with what we're
referencing
here
well we could instead of just using
the accuracy you know like we could
put everything at the end of the
documents
but spell out the acronyms um
so that would get past the it's just an
endless string
of un unknown statutes
um would that would that work
probably and this is there's probably
not
a lot of um this is more of it like a
layout
type thing um so substantively i think
what you've got there
what that works it's just
my bigger issue that can be solved
outside of this committee meeting is
just
how do you make sure you're connect that
to this other thing since we don't do
footnotes
and i just want to emphasize one point
that i
had made before is you know it's it's
these laws and others
um so yeah i want to make sure that
we're not bound by you know compliance
or with a particular law before we go
and investigate a problem so
student or any kind of suspicion of
abuse or or anything along those lines
there's policies and procedures of how
we have to go about that but
um i don't want to get get in the
position where we have to spell out each
one of the things that we might be
complying with
in order to do that monitoring gotcha
okay i
i heard you make a point before and now
now that really
sinks in um
and that's why i think stating the
values up front this is the point of it
uh and
then we can say we can do that
addendum with current laws um
by by
by making it a little uh all more
encompassing
up front then we don't have to go in and
change the policy every time there's a
change in law
because we're stating you know we're
doing this to protect students and
in accordance with privacy laws or
if that's the right term okay
okay awesome you can do that
okay um can i bring up a timing
um so i think we want to have this
policy on the books this revised policy
00h 20m 00s
on the books
uh before the start of the next school
year
um and where we're starting to bump up
against
deadlines um so
if if the committee members
are okay with
kind of if you think we're heading in
the right direction here
um i'm going to make a suggestion that
um travis and whoever
um kind of go back
recraft a sentence or two and send it to
the committee members
prior to the next board meeting
so that we with an
to hopefully um forwarding it
to the getting it out of committee and
forwarding it to the full
board for um consideration
at the at the next board meeting
which would allow us to do the um
21 day comment uh periods
and still adopt
you know all assuming everything works
out
and still be able to adopt it before the
end of june
so rita just to clarify you're not
talking about
tomorrow's board meeting you'd like it
say no no no no
no in a week's time yes
okay so i have a just a
question about um i guess our
engagement it's not really community
engagement but this would be more staff
engagement
on something like this since um the
other
individuals who this would impact would
be
all of our staff have has have we
shared and solicited feedback from our
represented groups
no not yet we've been trying to work
since this is a revision to a policy
rather than a new one
we've been trying to get uh get the
language straight before we do
engagement
i thought our i thought that our
approach was going to be
to generally to get
feedback before we sent something out
for first reading or
is it the first reading is going to
generally for engagement it's customized
by the policy
there isn't a consistent approach that
works for you travis can you take the
screen down so
each other thanks that the so so in
general
i don't i don't think we can say that
for every policy
the steps are the same for this policy
which is
fairly compliance driven and updated
our usual approach with any policy is to
send it to
our labor partners to let them know that
that this is happening and we will do
that in this process but that isn't a
separate
discrete engagement step that takes more
time it is actually part of where it
will go coming out of this committee
headed towards the first reading
okay if i can just add and when we
discuss this we were talking about
development where we
where we thought the need for for
engagement uh
was going to be in the administrative
directive because that's going to be the
how
how things are
for example if there it does need to be
um
a review of a student's records or
something like that how does that
how how is that accomplished what
administrative steps need to go in there
and we have discussed and we discussed
it with um
nathaniel who was on the subcommittee or
in the
sub the the group that was working on
the development of the policy of
developing a an engagement plan for the
administrative directive
because that's you know that's the kind
of the nuts and bolts of it
and wanting to make sure that everybody
understood what what that was going to
look like
so um then
my question um i understand the
sequencing
so this will be sep sent separately not
just a p-a-t
which i know always gets um because it's
also a condition of the
cba but also to all of our other
represented groups
yes with a clear we welcome your
feedback
and here's the timeline i actually don't
send them julia but i'm sure they say
something like that i have confidence
i'm looking at roseanne when i was
saying that you probably did not know
that
so we don't send something
separately to uh
our labor partners right they get the
notices of meetings and the agendas
but we don't solicit publicly i thought
we had a direct that was part of our
00h 25m 00s
policy process where rachel maybe it
comes from rachel
that we went and and i don't want to
overstate and
be inaccurate in any way and i fear i
already have been so
but we we do have a part of the process
is that policies that affect
employees and how they do their work go
to our labor partners so if we're not
finally tuned on that i guarantee you
after this conversation we will be on
this one
okay um but that's so i do we agree on
the principle and i don't again i don't
want to overstate
what's been happening but we will get
we'll make sure that happens okay great
i understand the sequence and just
if somebody can confirm that is the
actual what that will actually happen
that'd be great
thank you
okay so are we agreed that travis will
circulate some new language um
before before next week
and um or
uh when would the timing be by next
what thursday
um and um committee member any committee
member who has
um uh
who wants to tinker with it would would
circulate
um suggested edits
um so that hopefully we can bring it
before the full board next
at the next board meeting next tuesday
okay just another process question sorry
on something like this because there's
the staff
piece and then there's the sort of
students and family
um do we ask the district student
council for feedback
before we first read or is that or is it
happening in the committee process
through the
the representatives or do we send them
something as part of like hey we had
this first reading it impacts students
wayne if you want so julia the district
student council
serves to advise the student rep so the
district student council doesn't
actually advise the school board
technically
um so jackson and oscar being on this
take this information from this
committee take it to
nathaniel and then he's the one that um
sort of advises the board at the border
meetings
so i'm not sure how um i feel like we're
already fulfilling that process
of having students weigh in in these
conversations in this way
and nathaniel was part of the as i said
when we were developing
making the changes um and we actually
asked him
to take it back to some of the students
and also asked him about
what for his input on what he thought a
student engagement plan would look like
so i can't speak to what that is right
now but
um that was one of our asks on the on
the student side of things
great thank you ailee and mary
okay all right
so
we can't hear you rita
i was being so eloquent too sorry um
thank you dr pocky for all your work on
this um and
we look forward to the next iteration
and hopefully we can move this out of
committee um
next week all right okay thank you very
much
thank you um okay
so next item on the agenda is
uh a complaint policy
so um if you recall
um just to sort of frame up this
discussion
um we have resurrected the complaint
policy
um and we
are now going to be uh looking
at some recent additions that were made
uh i guess about five weeks ago now
something like that um um but we're also
going to be looking
at the complaint policy
including the previously discussed
revisions
with an eye towards potentially
hopefully
voting this out of committee for a first
reading
today uh if we can um
but i um i want to make sure
that we spend um a fair amount of time
00h 30m 00s
today looking at the preamble um
i think that's the one area of this
policy
that we didn't really cue
over um sufficiently the first time
around
um and and we have
sections in here that uh we have a new
draft alternative preamble we have the
current preamble
uh which we need to
um we need to deal with those two
sections together
because there's they're redundant in
places and we might want to blend the
two
anyway it seems to me that that really
is the
area of this policy that um that we need
to
do a little bit of um
uh work on the language um as opposed to
the rest of the policy
that i think we have um
we've worked over quite a lot over many
months
so um i'll have some a couple questions
about
the other areas and
also some just potential language to add
in another area as well
but we can do that but just want to flag
that for you
okay so um
so julie do you how significant
are the other edits that you're
going to suggest well i don't think
they're that significant
um i mean do you want me to share them
now and then we can come back to them
yeah then we can well we can figure out
whether we could deal with them
fairly quickly so that we can you know
kind of focus on
the beginning or if they're going to
require you know a lot of discussion
then we can just take it in order
so why don't you give us what you got
and then we'll
go with it so i first just have one
piece of information also that i'm going
to
want on numbers
in that numbers one
and i'm sorry d one
d twelve
d1 d12
and e1 i'd like to know
how many complaints
that would have covered in the last
like five years
and i don't need an answer look at my
board
so what's the roman numeral that you're
looking at
i'm sorry
it's four it's under filing an appeal
okay it's the very last part correct
julia
yeah so other persons it's a okay d
there is like i'd like to know how many
how many complaints have requested legal
services
on number 12 i'd like to know how many
complaints we have who have filed
multiple complaints
not how many multiple complaints we have
but how many complainants have filed
multiple complaints
and i'm sorry julia over what period of
time do you want us to look back just
like the last five years
um and then or you could even do since
2018
since that's when we had the policy
major policy revision
and on e how many
how many complaints have filed
complaints directly against the
superintendent
and i you know in some ways i might know
this based on the ones that get to
three but since we don't see
if something gets resolved in level one
or two we don't see those
um and then just as part of the the
larger body of work do we actually
maintain a complaint log since
again since the board sees things at
three
and that's a question i can just you
could answer afterwards
we do have a complaint log just to
answer that and i need some
clarification to make sure we get the
committee what
you're asking for so we do maintain a
complaint log
um that's updated every friday what
um when you look at d1
it talks about translation services
other accommodations and legal
advice and so you're just looking for
legal advice not the others or a trans
translation if we've had i mean that
would be helpful to know as well or
reason of other reasonable anything in
that paragraph yeah
00h 35m 00s
and we don't we don't um
i don't think we track or categorize
complaints
so it'll require a manual review of each
complaint that was filed from 2018
forward because there isn't a database
where we can code show me where this
request was made so
we'll have to factor that in in terms of
time okay
so um i say i don't need that
information for today um but i'd like to
know that
but uh so the the language uh rita
specifically
that i would add is on
let's see my version doesn't have a page
number so it is in the red line version
let's see it is d14
that after the words pursuing contact
with complainant
i would say about the complaint subject
so you know we have parents who contact
us about a whole bunch of things
and i don't think just because you filed
a complaint about one topic
means that you can't have a conversation
about a with a board member or anybody
else about another topic
um so that would be one thing and then
at the
end of that section add the sentence the
district will send our district staff
will send a weekly
communication about new complaints that
have been filed
against pps and the reason to add that
is
there's no way for board members to know
if a complaint's been filed
it's most the time we find out if a com
if somebody doesn't send it to us
directly which
in most cases doesn't happen we don't
actually know that a complaint's been
filed
so this gives board members awareness in
order to be compliant
with this um who has filed
um like what
what complaints been filed i say it
hasn't been necessary in the past
because things just
you know came to us when they came to us
and a lot of times things never
came to us because they got resolved
so that those are the two items okay so
let me make sure i
let me make sure that i i have them so
this so we're
we're talking about roman numeral 4
d 14 right
um and
we need to copy edit anyways we've got a
simpson because
so pick one um
but you're you're suggesting
um in the sentence
beginning board members should not
knowingly
okay
i don't know anyway but i understand
that there's a majority of the board
that wants it in there so
it should at least be that it's about
the complaint and topic versus like
totally tramping
playing on free speech rights um
and then this then at the very end
add a sentence that says the district
staff will send a weekly communication
about new complaints that have been
filed against pps
because there's no way all right
okay okay i got that i i'm i'm working
on language now but
um we've got some we gotta
edit this paragraph um there's something
wrong it's just the edits
i don't know what happened in that
paragraph but the red line okay
left so we've gotta fix that rita but i
think we have a record of what that
should be
can i make a suggestion of of what okay
so
um either center because i don't care
which
uh but pick one and then the second
sentence board members
should not knowingly
initiate so delete refrain from
right should not knowingly initiate
or continue delete the aim
um can we delete or pursuing
so it would be board members should not
knowingly initiate or continue contact
with complainants
and then julia wants to add about the
topic
of a complaint once a formal complaint
has been filed
comma
or independently investigate allegations
in a
of belts and complaint happening there
yeah yeah okay um
okay and then and then you wanted to add
a sentence that has
give some notification to board members
about what complaints have been filed
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right
right because but no otherwise yeah i
get yeah i get i i get the reasoning i'm
i'm worried about language now so
um before we start
crafting a set okay scott go ahead
yeah julie i agree with you about that
i'm not sure it belongs in policy
uh and i i totally appreciate
that you know we if you don't know you
don't know
and you need to know in order to follow
the policy
i'm just that seems to be a procedural
piece
um to me it's fundamental i mean if
you're
if board members are going to be held
accountable to the policy then the
district staff needs to
provide information to the board so they
can be in compliance
i just my point of view like i say i
don't agree with the
the overall i think it uh impedes on
board members ability to to do their
their work um there's a disagreement but
i do think
that if we're going to stipulate here's
what's required of board members
then it should be yeah and staff should
provide
information i don't see what harm it
does
unless the district's not going to
comply
well um
i i think i i think one could argue that
since the word knowingly is in that
sentence
um if you had in the a.d um
a a provision that staff would provide
regular notification to the boards
then i think that would satisfy um
well i'll just say we the other things
that we're supposed to get on a regular
basis don't always happen
and again i feel like this is um
going to be something the expectation
that board members do and so
like then board members need to have the
information or needs
or we need to have a link that we could
check ourselves to where the i mean
which which could be another
way to do it if there's if there's a log
just give board members the link and
they can
look and if board members don't want to
check that's
their checking but it just seems like if
there's going to be this statement made
and it otherwise it seems a little bit
like a gotcha
like you should have known
i mean parents contact me all the time
about stuff and
and you know who's to judge when you
knew
well another way to do it is if you get
contacted by
a parent you could include as a standard
question
have you filed a formal complaint i get
so many emails i'm not gonna i'm not
gonna ask people whether they filed a
formal complaint because like we're not
wanting people to file a formal
complaint i mean we're wanting to solve
issues before they get there
i mean the vast majority of
communication from parents
we never we don't want to drive them to
that complaint process
in fact a lot of times they're just
looking for information so
it's not it's not a secret and if people
want us to comply then
it seems like there's there's two
there's two methods we could either get
a link to the complaint where we can
just check our to the log we can check
ourselves
or staff could be committed
to sending it to us on a weekly basis
i'm a board member i i feel like
knowingly takes care of it
but if i mean how are you supposed to
know better if you weren't informed of
the formal complaint so i think
we are hoping that staff will let us
know when there is a complaint so that
board members don't
you know inadvertently um become
triangulated with the
you know complainant and the district um
that that would be my hope
so that we would be aware um
that doesn't happen right now right so i
would it would be nice if i think it
would be a good thing
for board members to know when a formal
complaint is filed um
it doesn't happen because there is this
policy doesn't exist yet i just want i
mean like
this yes this is this is a new this is a
revision
so it it makes sense that the
that the procedure doesn't currently
exist but are your thoughts on
asking staff to let us know when a
formal complaint is filed so that
if we're also having parents contact us
we're at least aware that they've also
filed a complaint
i i think i think the substance of
the amendment you have to have some way
to notify board members otherwise they
can't board members can't comply with
this language
i think the mechanism for that could be
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a statement that its
um staff will promptly notify and that
could be a weekly thing it could say
weekly
we have one that goes out every friday
to the slt so there is a mechanism this
thing exists
it's already administered inside staff
on a weekly basis
every friday at the end of the day um
it is a little granular just to say
exactly how it's going to go out in a
policy
but at the same time i know what the
thing looks like already and so
i do think where the substance is really
there i think you have to have both
sides if the board members have to
not do something they have to get be
given the knowledge of it
so i think um i i tend to agree that
the the word knowingly um
gives sufficient um
i mean i think it's sufficient to to
give um
board members the give staff
a directive to inform board members
and and allows board members to
have some confidence that it won't be a
gotcha situation
so um
okay so
are we okay with uh the addition of the
uh
about the topic of the complaint
okay um so
it liz this paragraph still has
yeah it's easily fixable it just yeah
needs to be fixed okay um all right
julia any other oh that was it
okay okay does anybody else have any
other um
any other suggested edits otherwise
we'll turn
to the preamble
okay all right um
so uh
so the um the draft alternative
preamble that appears in purple
um was added by
staff relatively late in the game when
we were
looking at this policy prior to march
um and and i think the intention behind
it
as i recall was to kind of frame up this
policy
as just one element of a broader
effort by the district to to be
more responsive to concerns
um and and note
that there are multiple ways for
families
to um
to address concerns or complaints they
have
um well prior to
invoking this complaint policy the
the formal complaint process um
so i think that was the intention um and
and we didn't really
get towards missing it um
so so i guess let me ask a kind of
general question
um are our committee members
okay with kind of the thrust of this
alternative preamble is there anything
in there
that that you want to
um that you're not happy with
some of the pieces of it are redundant
with
the existing preamble so we have to
we have to figure out how to i think
probably blend those two
are we gonna yeah i was gonna say are we
gonna delete the current preamble
that was that was the recommendation at
least when it was first drafted as i
recall
it's now been several months but i think
the idea was here's
option a and here's option b yeah yeah i
prefer option a
i think i like the way it acknowledges i
feel like it's easier to read
it feels more compassionate um and i
also think like it does a good job of
saying
um i i love the acknowledgement of the
complexity of pps and that we can do
better i
it just feels like a very human preamble
where the second one feels more
like i would expect in a policy if that
makes sense
yeah um i think there are a few
sentences
in the existing preamble that we might
want to
incorporate um
i i kind of like the
i kind of like the idea of portland
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public schools welcomes expressions of
concern
as opportunities to learn clarify our
intentions and engage in continuous
improvements
it's a little bureaucra i mean it's more
bureaucratic
but i kind of i i kind of like
the idea behind it
so and are we so are you suggesting that
they're eliminating the word maintaining
strong relationships including
includes having a fair accessible
process on which complaints may be
addressed in a timely matter
is that or is that already in the
new preamble
um
i don't think that's expressed in
the new preamble and
so here here's another possibility um
we could we could maintain
and and this is just a it's just a
thought
um we could
keep the alternative preamble as it
currently exists
and then keep
the language of that the first paragraph
in the existing preamble
take out the second paragraph because it
it's because it's i i think mostly
redundant
i think
well i don't know okay
so here's where i'd like us to end up
today i would like us to finalize the
language
in this preamble so that we can get this
out of committee um i think we can do it
it's going to require it's going to be a
little messy
um because we're going to be word
smithing on camera
um but i don't think the word smithing
needs to be
terribly complicated um
so just to to as i
my recall may not be uh in fact i'm
quite confident it's not precise but i
think the
alternate pre preamble was sort of a
here's the request was that staff draft
something that had a little warmer lead
in with some more values in it
um that was that felt that had a little
more empathy
um i think it didn't go any farther than
that and so
this is the board's policy you should
make that preamble what you want it
to say and we can i think i agree with
you reed i think we can
do that yeah so so julie i think that's
a good catch
and i would support lifting that
sentence
from the old preamble and moving it into
the new one
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and if you want i can try to specify
exactly where
um
no just that sentence
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so is the district will resolve
complaints
as quickly as possible and in compliance
with state law
um lifting that sentence from
the old and making it
the last sentence under the new
right after social justice period
does that work
i want to be sure i'm tracking just so
we get the edits right in translation
i have three sentences that have been
talked about from the old preamble to be
incorporated into the new
the one scott just read about the
district will
resolve complaints as quickly as
possible and in compliance with state
law
then also maintaining strong
relationships
includes having a fair accessible
process in which complaints can be
addressed in a timely manner
portland public schools welcomes
expressions of concern
as opportunities to learn clarify your
intentions and engage in continuous
improvements to benefit all students
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and maybe there was more of the first
paragraph too i
want to make sure i get all that you
want in there so we can
move it
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julia i think you're if you're talking
to us you're on mute
yes sorry thank you um
it may be better to put this up on
screen so we can see what it is that's
being proposed to be
struck and be moved and be agreed to
it seems like we're down to three
paragraphs that that might be
an easy way to cara roseanne
can you put that up there
pretty please thank you
so i would submit that the
sentence about maintaining strong
relationships
i think that sentiment is covered in the
new preamble
when we talk about core values like
respect and relationships
when we have conversations
just just want to check to see if
there's agreement with that
it's not adding that line with keeping
that
out so that's that's what i'm suggesting
but
i just want to make sure um
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they're maintaining strong relationships
scott was just
mainly a way that i think the sentence
linked to the previous sentence which is
now being eliminated
so it was it was more of a carrying
a train of thought from one sentence to
the next so the
most important thing is to me
in that sentence the fair accessible
process in which complaints can be
dressed in a timely manner
um right roseanne can you shift down a
little bit so we can see that
a little bit more a little bit more
up see it it's the fourth line down
there
it's just that
maintaining strong relationships is
really just the link to the sentence
before
right so i i think that a little bit
further down is where i plucked out that
we will uh resolve complaints
as quickly as possible that's the
um so it's the last sentence in the
second paragraph
so i think that that gets at the
um that timely manner
just says it says it differently
in fact a little bit more urgently i
think
i mean i i'm fine with some redundancy
so
either way works with me
so just that um from a standpoint of
accessible it looks like is the family
resource coordinator is that something
i can't tell what the one two and threes
are for is that an actual link
or is that just it it's a placeholder to
get the exact title right and that
position has now been filled so we can
get the exact title we weren't sure
it was i think when this was first
started it was a concept
later it was posted now jamal's been
hired actually so
yeah so i just in terms of accessible
um families i would have
that be a live link the family resource
coordinator whatever the
the name is and also there should be a
live link that if you want to file a
complaint like
here's the same sort of thing
we can do that because if we have this
whole thing on here's how you file a
complaint and but there's never
any like now you have to go find
where to do that
no uh question do we want to
actually name that position in the
policy when the job title
could conceivably have a new name in a
year
you know we went from ombuds person to
or ombudsman whatever it was to this
um we can genericize it enough
that it is a resource for families but
keep
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keep the live link as julia suggests
we can do that
so one of the other things with the
preamble the last paragraph of the
current preamble
is a deeper dive on
the commitment to racial equity
and that all now has been summarized
up into looks like the last sentence and
reflects our strong commitment to racial
equity
and social justice
it's in two places but yes where's the
other one sorry
um at the end of the first paragraph of
the alternate preamble
and at the end of the last paragraph of
the alternate preamble
yeah so we say twice a strong commitment
to racial equity and social justice
um
i i would like to carry over this
language in some way that says the
district shall create welcoming
environments reflect and support the
racial and ethnic diversity of a student
population in the community
and and the next sentence as well the
district's
goal is to have a complaint process that
is accessible to and welcoming of all of
our students parents gardens and pps
community members
because to me that speaks more to like
how you're gonna do
things and creates a more specific
expectation than just
a we have a strong commitment to
are you okay if we don't display that as
a quote
from the other policy just in case the
policy changes
so the language will stay the same but
it won't be
quoted from will be represented as exact
language from another policy
that seems like a way to keep it
evergreen
great we'll do that thank you
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okay do we
so i would support uh julia's suggestion
of
including those so just just to be clear
um okay i have a uh
um it's just copy editing
so um we have what appear to be
footnotes
i'm assuming those are leftovers from
something
are you talking about the family
resource coordinator
well family resource coordinator again
you know
concerns at the end of that paragraph
and then administrative directives
in the following paragraph i think they
may be
comments that are suppressed for right
there's staff comments on the side i
don't
i don't think they're actual footnotes
okay
okay and then just going back to the
family resource coordinator
um you know in a
in the interest of keeping it evergreen
um i know scott has
asked this question earlier uh are
are we going to keep the title in or are
we going to
no we're going to generously we're going
to scenario okay sorry
yes sorry no that's okay
is that even a word that's a word but
i'm using it
but but it's when i thought about it
stuck in my head so
that's good it's um when i took my dog
into the vets
they were genericized uh right i think
that's genderized degenerate
um just wondered if oscar jackson
had anything to weigh in on
or is this like you guys are thinking
just get this crap done
um i like julia's edits also
i was just reading like the current one
i like the generally just like the last
paragraph of the previous one and it
starts with the district serves a
diverse community
and ends with treating everyone with
respect
if we were going to keep only one from
that i'd like to keep the last sentence
i feel like that's kind of like a good
ending sentence to the preamble
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so do you want would we then take out
the sentence
in the third paragraph of the alternate
preamble that says all parties to a
formal complaint shall be treated and
treat others with respect and dignity
um never mind i just saw that never mind
okay oh good it's a lot to do with love
so so i've one if we're done with that
just one
last question uh about i can't find
something somewhere
where is it that we define that only
people when people can file a complaint
or those within the school community
what section
is that in the old
preamble it's the the
first sentence of
of this current preamble so that's not
carrying over
i think it should
well the first uh the first sentence of
the last
paragraph in the alternative preamble
um says we also make available to
students families and all who reside
within the pts community of formal
complaint process
i'm sorry you're saying in the new
preamble that's in there where is that
in the new preamble the last paragraph
first sentence
okay so um
this is a definitional question because
if the if the purpose is
to exclude people who are
not to be able to exclude people who are
not in the pps
community from the complaint process
then i think we have to define what the
pps community is somewhere in this
policy
because there's a lot of people who
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you know may think well that's just
parents or
parents an alum or it's all taxpayers
or anybody who i think division 22
defines it as those who reside inside
the pps boundaries like if you live
inside the district
we'll have to go we can look at that
division okay so i think we should pull
that
forward because i don't think
necessarily
like we ask for help and support from
lots of people who live outside the
boundaries
and they may think well i'm part of the
pps community because
you know i support the
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you know lincoln cards baseball team
because i went there but i don't live
within the side
so i think we should if if that is a
division 22 definition let's just
pull it in so that a person who resides
in the district
or by any parent or guardian of a
student who attends the school district
who attends school in the school
district can that be in the definition
somewhere because i think somewhere in
the preamble it's sort of like just
it sounds like we talk about the people
yes all the time and we're actually
if we're if it's being defined as a
specific
yeah we can do that students included in
that
definition
i believe so let me pull it back up here
i'm just toggling between
screens yeah well i mean we reside
within the district so i would assume so
a person yes yeah well technically
we could have a student who lives
outside the district
true or by any parent or guardian of a
student who attends the school
at school in the school district so if
you're a student
it's an interesting inconsistency
well i i'd be happy if we did a little
trampling on student rights
and you know now um
i i think then we should add student to
that list to
uh just to make sure
everybody's covered okay
we can do that
okay liz do you have what you need
i think so okay
um i think we're gonna have to
uh since there's a lot of copy editing
going on
um will you be able to get us
the revised language
find necessary this week okay
this week okay perfect perfect okay
um okay
so anything else on this policy
are we go ahead sorry i didn't mean to
interrupt you go ahead
no go ahead if you had a question or
comment
something i i realized you were about
ready just to have a summary statement
so maybe i should hear your summary
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statement before i
say something so go ahead please go
ahead
well i i was going to say um
are we are we ready now to to vote on
whether
to um move this out of committee
and put it before consideration of the
full board
okay any objections to vote in on this
well i don't object to a voting on it
i'm not supportive of moving out of the
committee because in march we
decided we needed to have parent
engagement
before we moved ahead so i'm not i don't
object to a vote i
just am not supportive of moving okay
okay so can we take the vote now
so all in favor of moving this out of
committee for full consideration
by the board uh please say yes
yes yes opposed
no okay
okay um so this will be on
um the agenda for the next
board meeting next tuesday right
two weeks from tomorrow so not tomorrow
night
but the 25th not tomorrow yes
yes sorry okay
all right um so we are
we're a little behind um but
i think we're making good progress so
um but i am mindful that we've got
another
hour and three quarters to go so how
about we take a
five minute break and when we return
we'll move to the next topic the
anti-harassment policies
okay so
i will reconvene at 5 21.
kind of a suite of techno uh or
a bunch of technical changes to a suite
of um anti-harassment policies
and i think mary kane is going to take
the lead on this one
right and take it away can i just give a
shout out to mary kane's awesome matrix
she created for this
it was fabulous and very easy to
understand thank you
oh good well it helped me as well as we
were
as i was going through it because it is
a little a bit complicated so
that may be the best thing to turn to at
this point we put it up on the screen
mary
um or cara could do that
we'll put it on the screen it will not
be merry
one moment my i can't my screen is
i think
thank you roseanne so
the first one that we
are looking at is the 18020
anti-harassment non-discrimination
policy
um the only changes that we have made
is to add um retaliation language we had
retaliation language on the other
anti-harassment policy that was located
in four this
for um regarding students and we
realized this was
missing um when we met
last week to discuss other changes there
was a recommendation
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as you can see the highlighted area um
in the original document policy we talk
about complaints
we can make complaints anonymously but
we've now added language saying that
corroborating evidence is required for
any disciplinary action or other
consequence just to
give people some warning that
that the the anonymous complaint alone
may not the district is hampered in a
in doing a full investigation um
we also discussed um
creating a landing page which you can
see is the
that will be hyperlinked because
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different
different types of complaints go to
different
um sometimes go to different departments
and so we thought that would make it
easy for people as they were
trying to figure out whether um it was a
formal complaint it was a title nine
complaint
it was a workplace harassment complaint
and so that
we are developing um
and the retaliation language is
um there were some comments about uh
modifying it a bit and so this is the
new language for it
and that's the end of it um do you want
to talk about
each um policy separately or would you
like me to go through all of them
and then discuss as a whole
i i'm inclined to do it policy by policy
so we can just kind of work through them
as quickly and efficiently as possible
okay so i'll stop now and let you
uh if there are any comments on this or
so we're looking at the uh one point
eight zero point zero two zero policy
right on discrimination
anti-harassment policy correct
and i guess the running theme through
all of these policies
is that the changes being the revision
things suggested here
are um pretty much mandated by statutes
for the most part the retaliation
language is found in
in a lot of other policies you know
where there's
the uh prohibition against retaliation
and so i've added here since this is
when when we developed this policy a few
years ago this was kind of the umbrella
policy for a lot of other different
kinds
of actions so we would you know refer to
it
along with for example the
um workplace harassment
we would um and other and the other
policies we have
but the other changes when we get to the
other policies those are all statutorily
required okay
okay um any any
comments questions concerns about the
highlighted language in this policy
are we ready to vote whether to send it
to the full board for consideration
okay all in favor say yes
yes yes yes any objections
okay all right
that was easy yeah so the next one we're
looking at
is in the student section
and this is uh what what i did here was
we had
we had on the books two policies the one
was
4.3060 which is
and the anti-harassment policy and the
other one is 4.3070
which is the teen dating violence
domestic violence policy
the anti-harassment policy focuses a lot
on bullying cyber bullying
and and a lot of the the
the the goals of the two policies were
related
and what what we've been as we've
mentioned in other
committee meetings looking for to make
things a little
more user-friendly so rather than having
multiple policies trying to
condense them so it's easy for people to
find what they're looking for
so what we've done is put the two
together and so what we're
um suggesting is that we adopt
that we adopt the changes i added the
language from the teen dating
and domestic violence policy
into the anti-harassment policy so i
just uh you know put it
directly in there and then i am
suggesting we change the name of the
anti-harassment policy to the student
anti-harassment and teen dating violence
policy
um
those are when we looked at this
and when the subgroup looked at it we
didn't make any changes to what
had already been provided to you i think
it looked um
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i think the the group thought it was
sufficient
so did you make any changes
so you took the language from the um
pre-existing team dating violence
policy right and incorporated it into
intimacy correct okay
did you change any of the language
coming from that other policy
no when you okay no
did i hear um julia did you have a
question
i thought i heard a voice i should say
for what it's worth on almost all of
these i'm not going to have much of an
opinion because i was on the work group
i mean so um
just for what it's worth okay
although julia uh you were you did have
some questions about the title so i
i am looking
that's true so the other option is
we have a couple of options the we can
call it the teen dating violence
slash domestic violence and harassment
policy
or the student anti-harassment and teen
dating violence policy
two options
i think we should avoid the word teen
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we might have some precocious 12 year
olds out there
it's true it's the name of the statute
but we can absolutely change it
how about if we just say student
anti-harassment and dating violence
policy
perfect well that was yeah okay
okay shall i move on to the next one
okay so wait a minute procedurally we're
going to have to do
two votes right we're going to have to
vote on
whether we want to advance this to the
full board
and then we also have to vote on whether
to rescind
the other policy right correct okay
so so if we don't have any other
comments about this
let's vote on whether to advance the
student anti-harassment invading
violence policy
to the full board for consideration um
all in favor say yes yes yes
any opposed
did julia vote
uh i was a yes sorry yes as well but i
don't think i am muted
myself i thought i said yes but i don't
think i did
okay well i thought i only had three
voices properly so
it could have been my yes you were
missing there rita
okay and then um
uh all in favor of uh rescinding
the existing uh
teen dating violence domestic violence
policy
that's 4.30.070
all in favor say yes yes yes
yes
any pose
okay i still thought i heard only three
voices okay um
i unmuted properly that time
okay all right so both of those votes
were
you uh four to zero right okay
okay next one miri okay
the next one uh is we are
um recommending that we rescind
uh policy 51030
it's the grievance procedure of sex
discrimination
this uh uh policy was from 1976
um uh and it outlined title
ix grievance policies as as they existed
in 1976.
they're different now so
um the the the policy is
is out of date we have um
what we have in uh what we'd like what
we have in place
to um already for
people to
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make title ix complaints is the
um we have a student-to-student
title ix administrative directive that's
that was
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uh uh signed
off uh in september of last year
and we are in the midst of um
completing the uh a staff
version of that the reason that we want
to put it into an administrative
directive
is with the new administration the
regulations that were promulgated under
the last administration
are likely to
be changed so we'd like to
we wanted an easier mechanism to pull
the
title ix procedures
um once they change
if that makes sense
okay so let me just ask uh um a
question um by
by correct me if i misunderstood so
by taking it out of policy and moving it
into an
a.d okay that's what we're going to do
um is anything lost
by not having it um
codified in a policy well
i don't believe so i mean the
administrative directive has the same
um you know authority
um it just describes uh the
the protocol and we have that in
on the adult side this is dealing with
when we're looking at um
adult grievance procedures we have that
already incorporated in the workplace
harassment policy as well
so what we're so what we are missing
right now is
title ix has um
slightly different procedural
rules but
what we have in place are state
state policies state statutes that are
that um are actually broader than the
title
ix um regulations
and those are covered in our workplace
harassment those are covered in actually
the teen dating
um and domestic violence
policy language so i think we're i
i believe we're covered um
but for the the one uh
the additional uh title ix
administrative directive that i have to
put forward
okay so i guess let me ask you a
different way
okay it's the same question but just
a different approach um
so in an effort to make sure that every
ad
has a is attached to an actual policy
um what policy would this ad be attached
to
the the four point uh
the the one that we just passed the the
one that we just voted out activity
so um yes so on the student side
the the title nine a d um sits
will sit under the the our the
newly revised uh
student anti-harassment and dating
violence policy
so we'll sit under there because um
and so and the same in the and then the
on the staff side the one that we're
completing
will sit under the workplace harassment
okay okay um so that
is it okay but
so i'm not hearing any other questions
or concerns
i just want to check because we're going
to have to vote
on whether to rescind right yeah i'm
like julia rita i was in the work group
i already got to go through this with
mary and ask my questions i was an hour
late to the meeting because i got
confused
but mary graciously stayed on worked
with me
helped me go through all the things so
i'm i'm good on all of this
okay um and i'm not
i'm not hearing scott objects so um
let's vote on
whether to re-sin whether to recommend
the rescission
of this policy all in favor of
recommending rescission
uh say yes yes yes
yes okay uh any opposed
okay next
next one is the workplace harassment
policy and i
um in this in this subgroup i had to
apologize to everybody i know we
was before the um the board not too long
ago
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what when i was looking at trying
again trying to um
create fewer policies um what i realized
is that what in order to comply
with um uh
what had been what i call senate bill
3077 which is that was the state's
um was oregon's
uh desire to um
keep title ix provisions
the the protections in place knowing
that the
the federal got um the federal
regulations were going to
um narrow the protections
so um there is in that statute a
definition that i that um
of sexual harassment that i believe if
we incorporate it into the workplace
harassment policy
will um will make us compliant with
um
all of the oregon statutes in play so
there are three there's
uh 342704 that's the that's the
senate bill 3077 that i just mentioned
as well as the
659a and and 243 sections which are the
um employment statutes
so um except
it's pretty simple the the it's just a
definitional
we're adding a definition for sexual
harassment
and you can see it in the draft
um where i've
uh it's under section three
what what is the definition of sexual
harassment we've changed it from assault
to broader harassment and the change i'm
asking to include
is subsection four
and that will make us compliant with
ors-342704
so am i correct in thinking that this is
kind of an
elegant solution to one of the issues
that was
very complicated in reconciling all the
different
federal state stuff okay yeah
well well done thanks
um yeah the alternative was to to write
an entirely
new policy that
mirrored 90 of what is in the current
policy but
then this different definition
we have talked um we we have
mentioned to some some
legislators that having different
definitions
of sexual harassment in different
statutes is
a bit problematic
there we are so that's the only
okay okay so i was going to say
something snacky but never mind
um okay
okay so um any comments questions
concerns
okay um let's vote on whether to
move this out of committee all in favor
of the proposed revisions to the
workplace
harassment policy um going to the full
board for consideration
say yes yes
any opposed
okay all right uh
next and um mary before you start
talking
so um i'm not hearing
uh any um i can't see
students so i'm not hearing any
um questions or concerns
um but please speak up if you have any
okay go ahead mary so
um we are also asking
that you consider rescinding the sexual
harassment staff to student
policy um
i'm looking at it right now this policy
is from
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1994
01h 35m 00s
and it does not it's
it's out of date it's not compliant with
um
um ors342704
um so it doesn't
it doesn't get to anything we
we would want to rely on
um and the
the sexual harassment sexual
discrimination is found in other
policies
um uh the
um professional conduct policy and then
the administrative directive
for the sexual conduct um staff to
student
um are are are places
where we should have our staff
turning to for guidance this it
does not this statute i mean this policy
is
um is not helpful
in fact it's um yeah
it's terrible
i guess i shouldn't comment but okay so
so the other half of it though is that
the
um the required language is now going to
be incorporated
into a revised professional conduct
between adults
and so we have
the professional context yes
and then we have the the and then we
have
separately an administrative directive
that's the sexual conduct staff to
student
which lays out the the um
the definition of what sexual conduct is
which this doesn't have at all so it
doesn't
it has no definitional guidance and
um that can be found elsewhere in the in
the um
prohibition against child abuse and
sexual conduct
to students and then it could also and
other language pro around the
prohibition of sexual harassment is
found in the professional conduct policy
so again trying to reduce the number of
policies
people can trade yeah
okay so um
so i i think we should think about them
as kind of paired up these two things
so we're rescinding one policy but we're
not
losing anything because we're
incorporating it in
another policy right in two other
policies we've either moved them okay
um okay so um
so let's vote on whether to recommend
recision
of um sexual harassment after student
policy
all in favor say yes yes
yes okay any opposed
okay all right um
do we need any further explanation of
the next one the professional conduct
policy i think we just covered it right
um the professional policy is the same
as the workplace harassment i've just
i've added that definition of sexual
harassment that is found in 342-704
so so that so so it too will be
compliant
with that statute okay
okay um all in favor
of um
the revisions to the professional
conduct policy um
recommending to the full board the
revisions of the professional conduct
policy
say yes yes yes yes
any opposed
okay um
okay um do we have any more on this list
today that's it the rest were just for
um for you to have an understanding of
where other things are
where the administrative directives are
sitting um
okay yeah okay um
can i make two really
um nitpicky uh
questions um so for the professional
conduct
policy um we don't
have any um
references to statutes currently
i think we need to add some now or at
least one
we can do that
um okay and then the other question
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applies to
all of the policies pretty much actually
all of the policies we've talked about
today
um
way back when we uh we started a process
to align the portfolio of
pps policies to the osda numbering
system
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um but the osba numbers don't appear in
any of these drafts
so are we still doing that we are that
was me
just not wanting to do that deep dive
but we can do that for the
yes when it exists because there is no
professional conduct policy for instance
from osba so if some
some will have it and some will not
right right right but we we've been
putting them at the
at the bottom of policies the the osba
equivalent
so we'll do the same okay
i i just think it's probably easier to
do it as we go
rather than you having to backtrack at
some later date
which won't yeah yeah okay anyway
okay okay um
okay so uh let's move on to the next
thing um and we're well at least we're
being consistent we're still 10 minutes
late
um so we'll move on to the next one the
district foundation
policy and uh related stress
so i think jonathan is going to leave
this discussion
uh yes good good after good evening uh
directors
uh student representative jonathan
garcia the chief of staff
uh i believe robin ferrone our interim
director of strategic partnerships is
going to be joining us
uh and we have a deck that will guide
our conversation
um which i believe you all receive so i
think roseanne will
put that on the screen um so really
again uh thanks for the opportunity to
come speak to you i know that this is
going to be the start of
uh many conversations with the board and
the broader community
about the fundraising efforts of
portland public schools fundraising
efforts of our parent community
uh and fundraising uh uh all together
and so
uh today i think uh we wanted to begin
to have that conversation with you
uh and and really think about uh
our approach so roseanne are you going
to be able to do that screen
share oh there you are
uh i is this the
okay so um
again most of this is in your memo so i
won't read uh word for word or
uh in context i just really want to
articulate and i'll turn it over before
i turn it over to
uh to our director uh robin ferrone
um as you all know and many of you have
been a part of uh
fundraising uh over the last 25
years and especially in local school
foundations
we believe that parent fundraising is
just one of many ways our parents
in our business community can get really
involved in our schools
uh and when we think about uh equity uh
you know i think equity can be at the
center of how we operate
uh especially racial equity uh and
social justice and and so
uh we welcome you know as we begin this
conversation we really welcome the board
uh and our community to to really help
us
uh truly get uh uh uh arrive
uh at uh an ethical equitable approach
right it uh parity does not mean equity
uh
equity does not mean equality and i
think
we have to be very clear what we mean uh
by equity and so
uh again i think as we think about our
fundraising efforts
there are a million ways there are a
major a variety of ways
in which we can uh arrive at equity uh
and and our
budgets our public budgets uh indicate
the way in which pps is is taking on
the the challenge of equitably
distributing resources
uh and the last point i will say is is
you know and uh this is both and
uh as a statement um i know that there's
a
uh there's a perception that if parents
stop fundraising that they'll go and
advocate for
uh in salem and i think um really our
encouragement is for us to to to
consider a both and
uh attitude of uh folks can contribute
to their schools and still continue to
advocate
which is what we many of us do uh in our
work and in our uh
in our daily lives so next slide
and as i articulated uh our strategic
partnerships
uh team has been working really hard to
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to advance high impact involvement and
investment
in our school school district and school
district community
as you all know we launched the fund for
pps a 501c3 nonprofit organization
which is led by its own board of
directors and
you know our our team is really working
to advance
uh our district's vision and emerging
strategic plan and really use it on
utilizing our racial equity and social
justice lens uh
and just as an example when when the
kova 19 pandemic hit
impact uh impacted families and students
we raised a million over a million
dollars and i know many of you
contributed to to those efforts um and
uh you know the majority of that money
went to
to support families and communities that
have been impacted uh
mostly our communities of color so next
slide
so um so what you'll have in front of
you and what you have in front of you i
know you received this on friday
with your material is that we are asking
the board to consider
uh two policy revisions uh the first one
is uh looking at district foundation
policy seven point one
one zero zero three zero uh which is uh
giving the district permission uh for
the or or
giving permission for the district to
establish trump foundation
uh and so we presented that to you um we
worked very closely with legal
uh to get a a red line or get a draft in
front of you uh and then
our robin in a little bit we'll go over
uh the additional policy but i wanted to
um
turn it over to robin here um and i
believe mary to kind of walk us through
some of this
district foundation work
well i could continue going through the
slides and then we can go back
and look at the the proposed
redline policy if if that works
so we wanted to just give a brief
overview of some of the other activities
that the strategic partnerships team has
been doing
working on the increasing equity in
the school-based fundraising arena
so just as a reminder there are two
different types of
school foundations there's the
affiliated
local school foundations which are under
the
uh financial management of the fund for
pps
which our team works on so all the funds
that they raise
after the first ten thousand thirty
three percent goes into the pps parent
fund
and then we have eight independent
school foundations and they're
their own separate 501c3 organizations
and 33 they contribute 33
as well but it's only on monies that are
spent on
staffing because those are the only
monies that come to
and through the district um so right now
we
don't actually have any um
oversight or vision into like how much
money
other the additional monies they are
raising or any other school-based
um fundraising groups we we don't have a
way
um to present that information uh to the
board which was something that was
proposed
in in the community uh driven uh
policy so sorry i have a question
um i thought it was um at least the
original sort of quote memo that wasn't
really a policy was that
it was only um it was 33
if they paid for fte but it's not
33 it hadn't been 33
of everything so if they raised like
three thousand dollars for like science
kits
and then they bought an fte for
you know a hundred thousand that it was
just
the one-third of the
fte but this slide says it's everything
over ten thousand
for the uh the affiliate for the
affiliated foundations it's everything
so um but the independents are
are have their own 501c3 so it's only
um foundation funded fte
what year did that change from
the affiliated funds paying 30
the reason the reason affiliated funds
pay are paying
uh a 33 is because
the the fund for pps only receives funds
for fte
so we're not taking we're not taking pta
money or we're not taking other other
forms of money
i thought you guys were the umbrella for
everything so if you're
so if you had right but
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but as you know local school foundations
are not like
you just said are not allowed to raise
money for
things outside of fte so therefore as
the umbrella organization
of the affiliated lsats we have control
we you know we have financial management
over the
over those dollars uh versus the
independent school organizations for
example friends of
have multiple uh line items if you will
that they raise money for so they have
an fte's line item they have a
activities item blah blah blah we only
see a third
of the fte of the independent yeah i
understand how that works i guess i'm
going back to
just the switch i'm sorry because i
wanted to make sure i understand this
back for when the switch happened
because those local school foundations
um used to raise money for a whole like
they were the
venue for a whole host of and sometimes
it was for ft and sometimes it wasn't
and you're saying
that the rule now is that
vehicle is just for fte
and that's why it's 33 so if they raise
something for some
something else it's by a pta or some or
some other entity
because yeah there's lots of other
parent fundraising happening for things
other than
fte right yes and and that
and that was you know what we wanted to
make clear
is we don't have you know information on
all of those monies
um the we do sometimes get a check
from apta that says this is this is the
money we want to go towards
staffing in our school in which case
then that's their affiliated
local school foundation dollars that
they're allocating towards staffing
um really we want it to be more
consistent
and that is in the other policy that
we're recommending where there is a
separate chair and a treasurer over
their school foundation
and that it it really is clearly
delineated because the own
the monies that are coming into the
foundation um
is intended for staffing
but we we're not going
we're taking one third on everything
that comes in
i don't know and that that was the way
it was all hands raised when they handed
it over to us
but i can't say about how it had been
working
like a long time ago but that that was
that
in recent history that's how it has been
okay so i'm i'm still not
clear i'm gonna re-ask julius question
in a slightly different way
if an affiliated above the 10 000. if
the affiliated spends 10 000
on microscopes they won't be able to
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we i i i the fund for pps will not give
a ten thousand dollar check to buy
microscopes
okay so let me finish please
so they can't affiliated
the money all has to go to staff is that
correct
yes correct okay um
yeah and i i i guess being
out of the business of being a parent in
pps for a while
that seems like a change from the past
the cpa the pta can raise the money
i understood understood when we were
when i was at llewellyn most recently
and sellwood we would always say
foundation equals teachers
although obviously we hired ea sometimes
too and that the pta was
all the enrichments so like chromebooks
microscopes field trips
so that's how we would differentiate it
for parents okay
no i understand those two things and
foundations affiliated foundations
are only staffing now the unaffiliated
foundations obviously can do things a
little differently there
um but that when i was the the president
of the foundation at
um sellwood that was how we understood
it to be
okay so the unaffiliated foundations
we only interact with them when they
send in their
33 percent um saying we're spending this
amount on staffing here's 33
of it minus whatever the 10 000
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and so on okay okay thank you and i
i got it now okay
um and and then the other piece
is the fund for pps also um
does the awards to the pps parent fund
and so the on this slide is the
criteria that um is used for that so if
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the school has over 40 percent
um students qualif uh identify as
historically underserved and
at least 15 percent qualified for free
meals
then they get an award and these links
that are provided here and in the memo
all go to thefund4pps.org
website where we have all of the
information
posted there's a pps parent fund page
and there's also a side-by-side
comparison of
affiliated and independence and we
provided links to
all the historical fundraising by
by school that we have you know that we
have access to
so in the next slide um
we are um some of the
new procedures that we've been working
on um
so you know once the management of
the the foundation school foundations
came under
the fund for pps uh we began to see
how there were some gaps in the
information that we had and
inconsistencies and we've been working
with pps finance to tighten up
those procedures and timelines so that
we have better data
to share with you and more equitable
procedures between the affiliateds and
the independents
so beginning this coming school year
we're requiring all school foundations
to pay for the
actual position that they are adding
back
to their school with their foundation
dollars because there was a practice
that would
um that was happening at the um in the
budget process where they would pay for
the lowest paid staff
rather in in the school rather than that
actual position that they
were adding back to their
school budget with with the foundation
fte
um so right now the data that we have
are on positions that have been
that were funded but they weren't
necessarily
the ones that that were
done in the staffing process they were
um i don't know that's sort of confusing
so um it happens like on the back end
so we want it to all be transparent and
be consistent so that we can report back
on what are the positions that are being
funded by fte
dollars the second is the
uh independent school foundations the
way it currently works is
is that um the fund for pps invoices
them
at the end of the school year so
actually like in april
or may we we send them the invoice for
the current school year
so um we are shifting that timeline
and saying beginning 2022-23 they need
to pay
at the beginning of the school year so
that
pps finance has that money uh in the
account when they're beginning to pay
salaries
um so these were just the procedures we
inherited and
looking at them under the this equity
lens we're
trying to make this a more consistent
and fair process between the different
types of foundations
um and then the can i just
say it can't just clarify so has the
practice
always been that the um affiliated
foundations
pay at the beginning of the year well
yes because the
we're holding the money the fund for pps
is holding all the money for them or
like their bank
you know so they're sending in all their
money all year long
then when we close the books for the the
non-profit and june 30 then we have a
total amount that we send
over to pps finance um in july
and then those get allocated into this
each of the schools accounts as a grant
basically is how it functions
um okay thank you robin do you know of
any other
school district in oregon that allows
school communities to buy
fte not that i am aware of we
have done some research into this so
um we probably have some other examples
but i don't think
any of them were important
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um so then the third
thing that we did this year was with our
annual local school foundation training
we
included slides um on racial equity and
social justice
and what that could mean in in each
school community
in terms of looking at how they spend
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the funds
so that we talked about
um in those slides which is still posted
it should focus on that increasing the
educational equity
within their school community um and
then i
on the next slide i have an there's an
example
of that um case study we
call it at bridal mile we have a new
principal there
jerome townsend who
wanted to understand how we could use
the res j
in working with this bridal mile
foundation which is an independent
and they work together
to identify an
instructional specialist is how he's
going to use the dollars next
school year and that person will work
with all the classroom teachers to
better serve students who are not
meeting benchmarks so this is an example
of how looking at
aggregate data of student populations
doesn't tell the whole story
and we have students in every school in
pps who need extra support
so we think that this is a way that you
can
use the lens in each school community
and
not just look at the total aggregate and
only prioritize those with the highest
numbers
so from just an equity standpoint from
the districts
if it if there if that was a need
why wouldn't the district pay for it
because there's not enough money so
i mean what i mean that's what because i
mean you're like can you can you stay
more what you mean by equity
pardon can you say more what you mean by
equity well i'm just
saying that example if we have students
who
are black indigenous students of color
in a school that don't meet the
threshold
and they need an instructional
specialist
then why why would that be
absolutely as you know let's pay for it
as you know
as you know you look at our budget heat
map which i believe is
shared with with this board um we have
done an equitable
distribution of staffing and resources
to communities
that have large percentage of black
indigenous and kids of color
so the district's position is that we
are going to fund
organization our school communities uh
through an equitable approach really
considering
uh the communities in in their totality
and as you can see by the budget
heat map um when you look at organ
schools like rosa parks that gets twelve
thousand dollars
and forest parks that gets almost seven
thousand uh
that shows the way in which we're uh
distributing
resources equitably public dollars are
finite
and uh we have to think about how we as
stewards of those public dollars
are able to use uh our our thoughts and
our knowledge to to actively distribute
those resources
and the last thing i'll say is that as
you know our school administrators
have uh have their own opportunity to
to to staff and work with their school
communities uh
to to meet the needs of their community
so we we
really rely on our principals to to to
to work with
with our with our uh central office team
to identify the needs
so one other thing just i want to go
back for a moment to the very beginning
um where we talked about what the local
school foundations purchased and our
policies
explicitly our current policy explicitly
states that they can purchase
fte educational enhancements such as
equipment supplies extended day
activities and contracts
so the example that director bailey used
of buying the microscopes our policy
would allow them to
to do that and not to have the 33
percent which
the 33 percent isn't even in policy
so the policy is is quite outdated you
know as you know
but it's the policy i mean it may be
outdated
um but it's it's still the policy um
until it's developed i agree director i
agree director from edwards i mean i
think
you know we we've inherited this and
it's been four years and
we're we're as you know we've we've
taken uh taking it on i mean it's been
almost 30 years since the foundations
were started and it's only been in the
last four years that we've
we've done a robust look at these issues
so i agree with you i mean if there are
there are issues in the policy
or issues in the in the way in which our
processes are done
i think this is where we have the
opportunity to to address
and and refine as we move forward
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um so maybe it would be helpful if i
could just get through the rest of
the slides quickly and then we can turn
it over to looking at the
the data or the actual proposed policies
would that be okay
um okay can i can i just
um i'm just looking at the clock and
um we have
uh we have at least one more policy that
we need to
talk about this evening so we've
probably only got about 15 minutes left
um and this is just the first time we're
talking about this this is not
the this is going to be coming back so
um anyway i just want to make sure
everybody understands that
the time constraints go go ahead
um so rita would would you like me
to continue to go through the slides or
would you rather
turn towards the proposed district
foundation policy
that we have um
how how much more of the presentation do
you have i mean because
the rest of them are are really geared
more towards the other policy which is
um currently called parent groups and
the schools
um and that so we're proposing some
other
additional ways of um
providing more structure and guidelines
in policy
around all school-based foundations
but i think that that could be taken up
on a later agenda
and we could get that those slides i
would suggest that actually that's what
you're talking about here
and so that's what you should shift to
and the
governance pieces and the foundation
policy itself can follow but
you're talking about this and so i think
showing the board members and walking
through the thinking on that other
policy is is tightly connected
just out of respect for the also the
parents there's been a lot of parents
across the city who've been
working on and got a proposal that i
would hope that the committee
we'd have time to have some side by side
so
that the um
proposal that a group of parents have
been asking us
a pretty broad group of parents have
been asking us to consider also be on
the table at the same time
just just so we can kind of walk through
the the
advantages and disadvantages of each of
the separate approaches
but not just one approach
right yeah and that's sort of the time
constraint here
that that was what it was asking for
sorry robin um so i just want to
um this is a
talk about the timing again um so i
think so we've got these two policies
that are connected they're distinct
but they're related um
and um i just think it's important to
uh to point out that the
foundation the district foundation
policy
um as i understand it
there is um some
some urgency attached to that um we want
to have that in place
by the beginning of the next school year
so
we're looking at um a shorter deadline
on that
the other policy um we already know
that's going to require a substantial
amount of community engagement
so um so i just want to make it clear
that
there is some urgency to tackling
the district foundation policy um
as as soon as possible um
i guess i'm confused because this has
been on
i'd like to know what the specific
urgency is and
also like again i think that we've
there's been multiple requests for us to
look at it and
the committee hasn't done anything so we
have to make sure that urgency includes
everybody's voice who's been interested
in being part of the conversation
and those that haven't been in the
conversation for sure
yeah yeah i i'm not i'm not arguing
against that i'm just
saying that um the i mean we can
continue
with this today um we're not going to
resolve
either policy today um i
i'm just i'm just laying out timeline's
question doctor i appreciate that and um
you know we will we will work with you
as the chair
uh to move in a steady way that honors
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and honors your colleagues on the board
and honors uh the variety of voices
uh both voices that we hear regularly
and those voices that we don't hear at
all
uh to come into a meaningful dialogue
about this i think uh just to make a
point here
to differentiate between uh what we're
trying to do is create a
foundation policy that is if you want to
call it neutral
maybe maybe no policy is neutral and
then the more
uh convert the the the policy
um that has a lot more interest
from the broader community but again
we'll defer to this board
as how you want to proceed this is how
we think um
is is one effective approach but again
we'll welcome other
other considerations as well so i just i
want to chime in here and i think
julia some of the urgency is um from
your email which said if we as a
committee don't do this then you're
gonna do it on your own straight to the
board
so i think some of the urgency comes
from this place of like
there's been some pressure um and and
you've been part of that conversation
and i
i also am really concerned about the you
know i
had spoken to the group of parents
that's concerned about um equity and
have talked to them and
attended their presentation and then saw
the policy that they sent
and i feel like the policy that they
sent is is one perspective
and um i appreciate the work of all
those parents i've been where they are
you know um foundation president and
working on fundraising and seeing that
you know fundraising sometimes feels
like
um we're we're trying to um
put the finger in the hole in the um dam
uh instead of like trying to build a
better dam and so i think some of the
frustration was we want to
spend our time on like really looking at
funding in the state
um but the policy as they have written
it would basically
end any sort of like ability for us to
have corporate giving or lots of other
really important facets of our life as
part of a community um and because it
was parent written i do think we need to
to look at it but i think when our staff
brings something
that's a different weight to some extent
um
so i do think we need to look at that
parent policy but i don't i don't feel
like they're equal in the
as far as like the the work that's gone
into them but
i feel like the parent policy that
they've kind of revised gives us a good
community engagement piece
um to look at of a very specific
perspective
of a group of parents um and i think our
staff is doing some work to draw in more
diverse perspectives
which i think is key so i i think we
really need to handle this
i think there is urgency because we do
want to do this well
and equity is a huge factor for us but i
do think there are a lot of
of things around privilege and power at
play here
so i think we need to you know do the
the mix of urgency
and um uh thoroughness
to make sure we are hearing from a wide
range of voices and that we also are
helping those parents who have so
desperately cried out that there is
something wrong with our system
to fix those parts of the system so that
they can feel better about the advocacy
and passion and work that they're
pouring into our schools yeah in
fairness i
i did ask i don't think it's a
standalone i did ask
staff's perspective on what the parents
i mean that's what i figured
you know hopefully at the this kind of
part of this conversation what staff's
perspective
um is on what has been proposed um but
you know having been involved for 25
years and i know a lot of other people
looking at the screen have been involved
as well but in 25 years is i do think
that parents it's not an either or and i
don't think that's how
people have approached it i mean usually
the people i see in salem are the same
people who are like
involved in the ptas and the foundations
and
that people don't view it as a either
either or
so i think that that's already happening
um but but i do think right julia that
either or was a direct quote from the
group that i met with
that they felt like they needed to stop
doing fundraising so they could do more
advocacy that's that's
i know but it was communicated to the
like i thought it was communicated to me
so i'm just
wanna share that i i view it very much
as an and
and i also know that our policy
on policy allows a whole host of
entities to propose
to propose policies and
um you know that
we may staff may have a better idea or
they may have a different idea
but that doesn't mean that the venue
that we've
provided for the community which is that
anybody can come up with the policy i
mean any student can any staff person
can like
that's that's part of our policy and our
process is then they come to this
committee
and they get to they would get discussed
and
so i expect i do expect a full
discussion of
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um
oh i just want to add that i think it's
very important that we both look at
both policies they don't want us to
ignore one policy
just because it's not written by staff i
think we need to look at both policies
and make a decision about which policy
works better for the foundation or
what we need to add to either or so i
want to push back on this notion that we
need to focus on one policy
because it was written by staff and i
think that just hurts
you know allowing other people to sit at
the table
i appreciate that oscar and julia for
for those comments
and i agree we don't want to stifle any
community engagement or
any community uh feedback we know that
our
our families come from a variety of
opinions and we want to make sure that
those are lifted however i will i will
i want to uh as as this district's chief
of staff
who works with 9 600 amazing employees
who are experts and uh subject matter uh
folks who have dedicated their careers
and their lives to to this work
that that i would i would hope that this
board and the community
really considers um staff's perspective
in a in a different way
i can tell you that my team over the
last four years our strategic
partnerships team
have have dug deep and deeper and deeper
and duggar dug even deeper right and
um and i think you know they they're the
ones
uh on the front lines fundraising on the
front lines
looking at these policies they you know
you all are
they're the stewards of this work so i
would i would i would hope
and i would encourage this board to take
our staff's considerations
into and and respect their their their
expertise and their
their their experiences and i think what
i was trying to say is that the
folks who wrote the foundation policy
have a very specific parents have a very
specific perspective
which we do need to consider and i think
the staff
who have worked with the foundation and
are doing this work have a different
perspective we need to consider
and um yeah and i think that that really
matters and
and so to say we're gonna set them side
by side and pick one i think we need to
look at both of them
and say what is the wisdom from this one
what is the wisdom from that one
putting them in the context of who wrote
them in their perspectives
okay and that's what that's what i that
was my sort of
what i was trying to say um for me i
mean
sorry cheryl it's okay go ahead
i want to make sure that i'm clear here
that that that we as a collective are
not
pitting staff against community uh
because this is not what this is about
this is
we're presenting multiple ideas uh into
the
into the space and i i think the
requests
which i'm hearing loud and clear is for
all of us to have
a robust discussion about the myriad of
ways to engage in this conversation
to arrive to to to where we want to be
and i do think it matters that most of
the parents involved in doing this
policy are white
and most of the staff involved in this
work are people of color but we do have
white staff as well but i do think
that's an important context we need to
consider as well sorry scott i said you
should go next on them
i talked um i just want to
say that and i've confirmed this
the parent group urging us to change
only came up with a foundation with a
policy proposal fairly recently
in response to um board members requests
after meeting with board members
that i don't think they view it as a
fully fleshed out
policy uh but more as a conversation
starter and that's uh
i got that phrase confirmed uh they
would love to
work with staff similarly as to how the
climate justice
policy there was extensive discussion
between staff and community members
as community members developed that
the draft to bring to us
so this isn't a here's our
best fully punished idea policy idea
they're bringing to us
they're just it's it's their first swing
and
they want to be part of a collaborative
process
with staff and the board so i i don't
think it's it's a here's staff idea
here's this idea
i think it's more here's an opportunity
for uh staff and some community members
to sit down and hammer something out
that gets us all in a in a better place
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so i think i think in some ways it's
premature to do
this versus this i'd rather i'd rather
see
parties sit down to
get some more developed language
and um
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and bring and as jonathan mentioned
bring in parties who
haven't been part of the process uh to
help develop it
as well which again is what the climate
justice group did
is they took ideas and they have
continued to go
out uh the latest draft that um
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that we got included for example some
input from
the latino network um so
uh i think that's where we need to take
this
going forward um i i understand that so
this is just a question about the two
proposed policies so
currently to be clear the district fund
or the district foundation is
specifically
for fte
um the district fund is not it's
i mean we we supplied a lot of people
with basic needs like
i uh yeah and then
that's kind of where the mix-up is oscar
you're kind of point getting to the crux
of it because the
the policy that the community proposed
mixed school foundations with the name
fund for pps and would make it
so that the fund for pps couldn't raise
for fte
which is which is kind of you know not
what we want to happen
so the fund for pps
is the non-profit and then the
school-based foundations
kind of are underneath the fund for pps
reporting structure
i think the driving principle of the
proposal that was put forward is and
this has been like as long as i've been
a parent of pps or post measure five
was the discomfort that some schools
could buy
fte and others could not
and there wasn't really any way to make
it fair
and the one-third was an attempt to make
it fair
but in 20 years we haven't been able to
figure out a way in which the perception
and i would say most of the people that
i
have shared with me the sense that they
think it's unfair
are from schools that don't have the
resources to buy fte
and um sometimes that's
represent mostly students of college but
other times there are school communities
that just
have fewer resources in the parent
community
so i think that's what they're trying to
get us not trying to
um not
work with staff it's
i think it's something like very organic
that a lot of people
a lot of parents have just felt and then
as we've actually had more resources
into the district through
the the art tax or the student success
act
um the local option which were all
things that we didn't have
when we um when measure five passed
and parents were like how do we fte and
so this
this was like a i mean i'd use like a
sort of a bridge
sort of a bridge or a band-aid and
there is more to that but i i don't
think it
at least the parents i've heard from are
not coming from like
i mean it really boils down to whether
you're from a school that can it has
been traditionally
um whether you could buy fte or not or
what whether you thought it was
fair and people even people who got
equity grants was like
well still we didn't get to buy an art
teacher we didn't get to buy
you know half a pe teacher or you know a
fourth
world language teacher uh so would you
but you would agree
and i would hope that the board agrees
that at least
under this administration we've
allocated
resources equitably look at the budget
chart that we
shared with you so at what point
um so i hear i i would hear the argument
if
guadalupe or administration why aren't
you sharing equity
so when we think about arts arts uh
in schools right we want to make sure
that we're closing those arts
uh gaps like we are doing our
responsibility
you know as public stewards of dollars
so i i guess i'm just
like yeah and i i and i would julia i
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would
i would question that i sense that i
know one that i've
worked with in the fundraising for
foundation or
foundation boards nobody thinks this is
ideal
nobody this is how we would
be in oregon huge echo
can everybody make sure they're muted
um but anyway so i i think that idea
that the people who have foundations
think it's peachy i mean i
i myself was like i'm gonna be the
foundation president and do this work to
support my school
but it's it's also really morally hard
because
what does it mean for other schools and
so the the thing that made me
really excited about foundation was the
one-third that we could at least try you
know pta doesn't have any equity built
in
and so i also as we talk about equity in
our district and parent groups i have
deep concerns about our pta fundraising
um my example is that when i was at the
llewellyn pta we raised thousands of
dollars
and paid for field trips and all sorts
of stuff and my friend at the same time
was the president of the pta at woodlawn
and they raised four thousand dollars a
year um you know we could give
stipends to teachers for supplies every
fall we could do tons of stuff
we did you know teacher meals and we
could pay for a lot at llewellyn that
woodlawn couldn't
um and there's so there's no equity
mechanism for pta so i think
what we do with the foundation really
matters because it also sets the
conversation for how do we
look at our whole system and how do we
understand that parents want to help
support their kids schools
and being able to engage in a
parent-funded equity practice actually
is a gift to us all
as we support all kids from our
community um so i think it's
i don't know anyone who's involved with
the foundation who who thinks it's the
best way forward but it's
where we are in the reality of our
system which is getting better like you
said julia with things
like the measure 98 and the sia
well and just the other context of the
the team responsible for raising private
dollars
for the district is that rolling out a
fundraising agenda for the fund for pps
where we're asking businesses and
the broader community to give to schools
is going to be a really contentious
environment if at the same time we're
saying but you cannot give directly
to your school and
i understand there's still ways that
they can give and we want everybody to
contribute
in multiple ways but we do have a lot of
businesses that have
given to their schools and what we want
is to
increase the giving and match them and
pair them with schools that haven't
gotten that
support so we have been working on that
and that
and um building
that that foundation
and so it that just the idea of the
timing
of you know putting out something that
would then
say never mind and and we
won't be able to necessarily replace
that four million dollars
i mean i don't think anybody suggested
that there's not going to be fundraising
the
the other policy is primarily to use
fundraising to buy
fte it doesn't contemplate that you
can't raise
money um for pay for a whole host of
other things
and i think during the pandemic um
jonathan
and the the fun team made some really
compelling
um it's really compelling initiatives
about ways people could help and i think
you saw broad-based
community support for that but it wasn't
like by
an art teacher at da vinci or
um you know half a pe teacher or half a
school psychologist or a counselor i
mean all the things that i think
like we should expect the district
to pay for which which is different from
these other things so
like i guess i want to be clear my focus
is primarily on
at least my focus has been primarily on
the fte
portion and like how do you create
fairness
so uh robin i appreciate what you're
what you're saying
um at the same time let me gently push
back
or at least say on the other hand i'm an
economist
i always have two hands um
on the other hand it's an ongoing
equity issue um
an inequity issue that has
been simmering and bubbling for years
so um
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scott can you say more what do you mean
by that when you say equity issues can
you can you be can you
elaborate a little bit more well just
the fact that some schools can fund an
extra
one two three four fte
um and
that's an inequitable structure it's not
living up to our values
and i would argue if somebody
if an outside if we had no foundation
structure
and an outside funder
came to us and said you can have this
much money
but this much of it is going to go to
these
upper income schools and here's a little
bit left over
to distribute to the lower income
schools
we would have issues with accepting
money along those lines
scott but i think i think it's also
important that we don't um
i don't know individual examples because
as you know as
as these four million dollars are coming
in as an example
like i said earlier the school district
is is is investing equitably
in the school communities that are not
and so at what point and so you know and
i
and i would i would encourage us so as a
man of color
who's lived here in oregon for four
years i can see the way in which
redlining our neighborhood our
neighborhoods
are implicitly racist or the way in
which our structures have been built
right and so so if we're trying to
address the racial equity
challenges let's let's really try to get
into
the root causes of these issues so
eliminating fundraising so we say no
more ftes
how are we gonna how are we gonna ensure
that you know the ptas don't all of a
sudden start raising
two million three million dollars and
using that to pay for
everything but ftes and now the school
you know so
so i think to your point how do we as a
system
uh right we have to approach this all
through a system
a system of equity right not silos of
equity and so
so i would encourage this board as we're
unpacking this
this piece of the conversation with
local school foundations and fundraising
that we think about
the the layers and layers right because
if we're going to talk about inequities
then we should start looking at
issues like neighborhood schools like we
should start looking at some of those
other challenges
that create the the haves and the
have-nots and so
i would just encourage us to to be more
holistically and broad
about how we talk about racial equity
and social justice
yes and right now we have a system
that encourages parents at some schools
to think solely of
their school we have
some principals who have brought in
you know said look at what this title
one school is getting
we have to raise money to match that
and that's that's really a warped value
system
absolutely so we want to
i would like us to recast this whole
system
towards our equity values absolutely and
i yeah i think we're all i think we're
all agreed on that goal
and i worry that tweaking things here
and there
is not going to get us there and it's
going to keep in place some of these
systems that
encourage people just to think about
you know just us and not the the whole
system
and i think there's actually huge latent
support
for doing an equitable a truly equitable
approach um that we're not tapping into
that would get people excited um i think
that's
that's the wager i'm willing to make um
so the give up the four million is is
uh is a deficit viewpoint i think
flipping the narrative
can get us to 6 million
or or more and i totally
totally agree that the other pta booster
funding
is also an issue what i what i worry
about is the thinking where
okay we don't want to mess with the 4
million that we're getting
we're going to backfill it with equity
funding within the main budget
and that leaves a hole of you know
there's a handful of schools that raise
a ton of money
and a bunch of schools that don't raise
very much
and then the lower income schools to get
a great deal of the equity funding so
the schools in the middle
are relative the schools on the upper
end
are not getting the services and so
we're
you know we're we're again i think we
need to
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to flip the whole system to really
represent our values
yeah yeah and i i hear conversation and
uh
i think a bigger vision piece um
we that i'd like to get us to and i and
i'm not sure if that
that bigger whole fundraising discussion
piece
comes before dealing with individual
policies
or not and and so yeah i think
scott i think you know agree with a lot
of what you said
and i think what you're getting at is
the i think
which is which is true and i i agree 100
is the
the the culture of fundraising right
uh is what you're you're talking about
right so i absolutely agree
the culture of fundraising is disgusting
right
uh and it means
i get it i get it but across
i mean not only giving i mean the fact
that one percent of all
you know uh giving goes to latinos in
the country is ridiculous right
uh so both giving and the way that we
fundraise
right but i also want to make sure that
that we don't forget
that philanthropy and giving is not
a white person thing it is not a
privileged person thing
it is everybody my mom who
who is poor gives her time and energy
when i was a student in kindergarten
she didn't have a dollar to her name but
she somehow find ways to make the malays
and so
how do we build that culture right and
so i also don't want
us to lose trus sight of that that uh
and i think that's what a lot of your
when i speak to director moore you know
privately i mean i know that that's the
spirit
chair lowry i know director bailey when
we've talked about this right how do we
transform that culture and so uh so i
hear this board
i hear the board's desire to change the
culture of philanthropy
change the way the culture of
fundraising and also
address the system uh the systems
the systems that are that that are that
are not aligned to
uh addressing racial equity and social
justice but i want to make sure
that when we say racial equity we
actually know what we're saying and what
we
when and how we're saying and what
purpose right because
because one of the things that i can
tell you in the four years that i've
been here
is that i'm tired of the way in which
equity
is usurped is taken advantage of by
people that don't know
uh a lick of what equally truly means
right
being told that they're that they're
they're they have
bypoc anger is what i'm hearing uh from
folks like what does that even mean
right so i think we need to uh reset our
conversations
and really focus on what are we trying
to do we're trying to make our schools
better
for every single one of our students
that includes
my student and the student that's
sitting across him and or her
and so again i'm committed to working
with all of you and our community to get
this right
and and to get this right it's going to
take layers and layers and layers
and layers of work right okay
so i'm going to i'm going to draw this
to a close uh
we're out of time for today um this will
be coming back
to the committee at the next meeting um
so this is just the
beginning of the discussion um and i
want to make sure that today we
have uh well okay i i should mention um
we are not going to have time to
um to look at the um
climate policy information that was
scheduled for today
so my apologies for the staff who are
involved and
anybody looking in um we'll get
make sure that is on the agenda for the
next policy committee meeting
um and uh in the next 10 minutes we
have uh people who have signed up for a
public comment
so i want to make sure that we have time
for that
so um
just real briefly to the the climate
folks
who are listening in uh again apologies
um we both reed and i have uh
read your suggested comments
uh we agree with the great majority of
them
i think there's a few that get a little
too much into the programmatic detail
and
you know we've gone back and forth on
the policy versus
plan piece of it um but uh
it looks to be another round of uh
improvements overall
and we'll we'll be back to you shortly
and now that we have some staff
input um via aaron
we should be able to build in a full
draft for
consideration next time and
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again apologies about how this has
worked out today
okay um kara can you um
invite the people for public health yes
we'll start with ellie russell
hi can you hear me okay
you can hear me okay hi my name is ellie
russell
r-u-s-s-e-l-l my pronouns are she and
her
i'm a parent at marysville school we're
a neighborhood school in southeast where
all kids have art class
but sadly there is no music i learned
about foundation funding when trying to
start
a music program at marysville the
biggest hurdle i came across was funding
how would the school pay for a music
teacher i learned that many schools have
music for one reason only
they have a foundation what this meant
was that we did not have music because
we were a poor school
i was absolutely outraged when teacher
salaries are paid for by community
wealth it is wrong on many levels
private funding makes sense for private
schools but it goes directly against the
goal of public school
equal opportunity regardless of economic
status
pps claims to be committed to racial
equity but its current model of
foundation funding benefits its whitest
and wealthiest students
while the schools without a foundation
have more students of color
this illustrates how pps is perpetuating
systemic racism
but wait you might say one third of the
foundation money goes back to the
schools in need
problem solved right but this money is
not enough and it is unreliable
marysville's grant is only sixteen
thousand dollars next year
pps should allocate a stronger source of
funding
our student population at marysville is
title one and we face
many barriers in life our parents do not
have the money or the time to supplement
their children's education
but title 1 funding is often used to
justify private funding
based on the idea that wealthy schools
are missing out
title 1 funds exist to make public
education more equitable
by providing resources to those in need
when other schools fundraise to compete
with those funds
it defeats the purpose in conclusion
the disparities from foundation funding
are huge
they create division within schools
economically
racially and socially let's find a
better way to fund our schools
i'm calling on you to please reform pps
school foundation funding
thank you
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thank you we have megan mermis
hi my name is megan mermis m-e-r-m-i-s
and my pronouns are she her i'm here on
behalf of a coalition of pps parents
teachers and public school advocates
that believes the district's fundraising
policies and practices need to change
and that oregon schools should be fully
funded for the oregon constitution
this belief is echoed in a letter
submitted to the board earlier today
signed by leaders from 32 pps schools
both with and without foundations
who support ending the current policy
that allows private fundraising to pay
for staff
our aim has been to educate the
community about the foundation system
and to encourage a dialogue and review
of this policy and the related data
we've hosted conversations with parents
teachers administrators and policymakers
including every member of this board and
have repeatedly requested to speak
directly to mr garcia
who did not reach out to us to discuss
our proposals
or his own proposed revisions to the
policy
each one of us has been intimately
involved in raising funds at our schools
and have seen the strain at places on
our school communities and the division
it sews between schools
so we thank you for placing it on the
agenda tonight
we fully support increased transparency
and all fundraising across the district
however the proposed changes that shift
the parent fund contribution from 33 to
40 percent
is unacceptable this fails to recognize
the many stories we've heard about the
divisive distracting and inequitable
impacts foundations have it claims we
can do better
but only seven percent better rather
than patting ourselves on the back
for this meager attempt to counteract
our inequitable system
we must end our reliance on private
funding of teachers
we hope that the board will consider
following the lead of many neighboring
districts
including beaverton lake oswego and
north clackamas none of which
allow individual schools to raise money
for their exclusive benefit
each year pps makes deliberate informed
decisions about staffing allocations
considering the specific needs of
different school populations
and guided by a commitment to equity and
each year that work is undermined when
individual schools supplement their
staffing by
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funding additional media specialist
classroom teachers educational aides and
more
we're calling for an end to allowing
individual schools to add fdb
fte above and beyond what's equitable
the assertion that pps is a national
innovator and setting aside a percentage
of funds
does not justify the fact that even with
parent fund grants the funds used to
hire
additional teaching staff overwhelmingly
benefits the most resourced school
communities
personal financial generosity is not and
will never be
an acceptable substitute for a stable
source of government funding
that fulfills our collective
responsibility to all public school
children
teachers and schools thank you
uh chair moore if i may uh hi megan
uh i apologize if i have missed an email
from you i don't think i've
received any communication asking to me
but i'm welcome
i i would love to meet with you if you
want to forward me that email
i'm happy to schedule some time this
week with my team
we absolutely would love that thank you
very much
thank you we had one more person signed
up but i don't see them in the attendees
okay um well we have
three minutes to spare um
we could either uh give us give
ourselves an extra three minutes
or um anything else pressing that we
need to talk about
uh i think we've got a number of issues
that are going to carry over from this
meeting to the next meeting
um chair moore did you want to at least
get the indemnification
policy on the table just as a
introductory topic
or no um well how about we just say
um the indemnification policy
was and uh if we have time we clearly
don't
um i would encourage uh
committee members to take a look at
what's in the board book
um and understand that
it will be coming it'll be coming back
so i i think that's all we have time for
today
okay all right i am going to uh during
the meeting thank you everybody for
um another uh very busy
very productive meeting um and uh
the next policy committee meeting
will be roseanne do you have the date
i was trying to get ahead of you to find
it hold on just a moment
uh it is tomorrow isn't it
i mean we got work to do
it's may 28th it's june 2nd because
there's no
it's a holiday on the 28th monday
so it's on monday
it's um june 2nd yeah
because the third the regular meeting
regular meeting date
monday the 31st is a holiday
don't forget to take it so
the new date for the next policy
committee meeting is june 2nd
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