2019-04-02 PPS School Board Special Meeting, Work Session

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Event 1: Special Meeting of the Board of Education - April 2, 2019

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okay I'm gonna stop this special meeting of the Board of Education for April 2nd 2019 is called to order welcome to everybody present in to our television viewers this evening the board will be voting on the ratification of the 2019 2020 Portland Association of teachers agreements the proposed resolution has been posted as required by state law this meeting is being televised live and will be replayed throughout the next two weeks please check the board website for replay times this meeting is also being streamed live on our PBS TV Services website what you have here is an agreement - for a one-year extension of the contract with P 80 there have been a few changes that are noted on on the memo that you have and this will bring the contract it will cover the next school year 2019 2020 and next year we will be starting [Music] negotiations on the follow-on contract and that will be a full negotiate a full bargaining process on behalf of the board I'd like to recognize and thank the members of the district's bargaining team Carol Hawkins Sharon Reese Claire Hertz John Stellwagen director Julia Broome Edwards and me and I'd like to ask superintendent Guerrero to provide some commentary on the contract sure I'll be brief good evening directors were very pleased to be bringing forward this evening for your consideration contract ratification with with our labor partner p84 1920 I'm going to invite up two of our staff Carol Hawkins and Sharon Rees who are going to want to just for for our listeners been it highlight some of the features of this contract agreement I think there are three or four major accomplishments in this contract that I'd like to call attention to one is the continuation of the rapid response team which provides critical services to our schools and our educators in helping with the difficult work they do it was a pilot program that was started in the last contract and due to the success of the program we were able to commit to continuing the funding of those additional positions for the next year we also completed some leftover tasks from last year related to the overages and thresholds for our librarians and media specialists we were able to reach an agreement on what those stipends would look like for that group of educators additionally we had some language updates and some other minor changes the across-the-board increase for this group is 3% which is I think fair and a good recognition of the hard work our our folks do the last success I'll point out is the creation of an IB B process to work on some difficult issues that we've had with our contract and our union partners and provides an opportunity to improve our contract language around areas related to student safety can you explain what my bb means I can so I BBB I BB I'm if I can say it is interest based bargaining which is a collaborative process will engage with our union partners and work on solutions that are both mutually agreed to you and mutually beneficial in in discussing some of these these really difficult topics it's a facilitated process that is scheduled to begin in late April okay thank you it only add obviously we're pleased to have the stability and security that this extension provides for Portland Association of teachers membership has agreed to this extension and as of their March 19th meeting you could comment on the substance of it more thoroughly than I but just that along with the contractual changes we've really become much more disciplined and much more collaborative in our ongoing dialogue with p80 on issues that arise
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in our schools on an on a daily basis and that was there were hiccups in that process really continually up until the last year in my experience and from everything I hear from both sides those day-to-day slogging through issues that arise in a mutual respectful way is going much better thanks I just want to add to that I I think the p80 team came to the bargaining table ready to work and reach agreement and were very very helpful and really partnered with us and getting things done so I appreciate that just a second director Const am here we do appreciate the the tone by which our continued working relationship continues to evolve like any relationship it takes work and Karen feeding and honesty and candor and I think we model that on both the labor and management side so we hope to just keep growing and developing that relationship any other questions not right now but some point in the future like some context for the library staffing how that can might compare with other districts that's readily available sure yeah we'll definitely get that for you or even through the budget process how it's coming forward in our budget proposal yeah yeah and ultimately what it looks like at each school and I'd like to just I mean I did a sort of formulaic thank you to the bargaining team I I thought it was a it was a much shorter process than I anticipated even though one night went on very very late but I anticipated that this was going to be it was going to require numerous sessions and and I think it's a testament to both sides coming to the table with really clear ideas about what we wanted to accomplish and you know a real spirit of collaboration that allowed us to come to agreement I thought remarkably quickly and Anika bleah and and I think it's you know it sets a tone of better cooperation and it you know that the educators and the district joining forces to to benefit students so I'm looking forward to the next negotiation and the IBB process kind of furthering that work and and I especially want to call out Carol Hawkins who who came in sort of just before things started to happen in in talking about this extension and leptin with both feet and really set the tone and it's it's been a pleasure like a real pleasure no thank you seeing you working and and and I'm looking forward to working with you in the future thank you I would echo that sentiment I really enjoyed having having the board members be part of the process it was great to have your perspective and your viewpoints in those meetings so thank you I know you guys have a lot of time commitment so I reckon but not much at 3 a.m. a couple questions and also then a statement I want to make so just on the finances and I don't know if this is a question for one of you or for the deputy superintendent for business and operations but in the contract ratification document it just says it's a 3% so just for on the record publicly I'd like to get that what the 3% was and then the dollar amount or maybe I could you could confirm it and then the other piece would be an explanation of how that interacts with the group health increase so I understand is the colas 3% is seven million dollars approximately and some and then there's a nine million dollar increase for the group health I'm just looking for the explanation about how that works so is that automatic because we have the increase in the salary and that's the wage related expenses that so some loping that increase some of that increase will be related to pers increases which is a
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function of pay some of that will be related to planned increases in the insurance premiums and the pardon me the district's contribution to those is a fixed percentage in the p80 contract so it's 93 percent of the total cost so we so those wouldn't happen otherwise but for the ratification I mean that's baked in because we're increasing salaries those other I'm just understanding what that piece is I'm gonna look to clear okay so the insurance benefits are not tied to salary the insurance benefits are tied to 93 percent of the premium for each member okay and what the reason it's a higher cost them you might anticipate is because the prior year we had a large refund that kept costs down so even though premiums increased last year we had a reduction because of returning premiums that we're the reserves got higher than okay so our premiums are based on the amount of claims that we have over time right and we have to keep a certain level in the trust so when that reserve gets too high they return it back to us and then it becomes a credit in that year so in 1819 there was a credit which lowered our insurance cost but the premium still went up for two years and we don't have a credit to offset it for 1920 does that make sense it makes it look like it looks like it's more because it's two years worth but by ratifying this it's a seventeen million we have a seven million dollars Cola and then a nine million yes other sort of age-related increase and then three hundred for the national teachers that's continuing what was there before yes and then the rapid response is two to three hundred and four seventeen million in total yes okay which is already baked into well it will be baked into the superintendent's proposed budget okay so I guess I'll just provide some commentary and I want to join others who have complimented at the bargaining the bargaining team and just the change in the tenor so I served on to bargaining teams when I was on the board previously from 2001 two thousand five so twice was on the bargaining team and then in the last 20 months and then on the bargaining team twice again and I think the the difference in the tone and the tenor and how we work through issues and so more much more collaborative spirit I think on both sides so I want to sort of recognize the staff leadership that's been displayed because I think it's a reflection of not only a change from PT but also change in how the district has shown up so I think all the staff and I know it's a considerable amount of time and then I want to provide some context for my both my perspective and my vote tonight so it's it's obviously bit informed by the four times I've been on the bargaining team which one thing great about being on the bargaining team is you always they always do end and you end with a ratified contract but I think having had that experience just bring a little bit different perspective to this so in the midst of the first contract negotiation we had this time around the Whitehurst report was released with recommendations relating to building personnel files relating to professional contact conduct between staff and students and by the time I think a superintendent and the 1718 board was in place most of those things had already been agreed to so they were sort of settled even though bargaining went on for a while after that so even though the Whitehurst report came out with the recommendations those provisions had already been agreed to in the bargaining so that had occurred and then in addition coming out of the white house report the board's policy and governance committee met for months and drafted a new professional conduct policy between staff and students and it's was out for public comment for 21 days and it's actually now been alper public comment since last October and hasn't yet been ratified because there was a demand of
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bargain and to put this into the the process and so we haven't yet had a substantive discussion of p80 about it I'm going to be a no tonight because I felt when the Whitehurst report came out and I felt I made a commitment to tackle the issues as a board member in collaboration with p80 in our next bargaining around not knowing what that would look like so I'm disappointed that while it was a there was a collaborative spirit that and I think both sides showed up in a way to discuss some of the issues I'm disappointed that the disagreement really primarily focuses just on the economic provisions in the in the contract and not some of the substantive issues that I felt were really important to address which was the building and personnel files also I think it was just a missed opportunity not to have looked at the had a discussion about the professional conduct policy when we've had it out for a pretty substantial amount of time so while I believe the colas were the right amount and we're justified and we need to be fair with our employees I think it's a real missed opportunity that we're going to potentially go another you know potentially another year before we implement changes in the building and personnel files and also with the staff and staff Student Conduct and I heard for me those are really important provisions relating to student safety and also transparency in the system and so the fact that we are sort of rolling over into another year and I recognize there is a mechanism and I'm hopeful and I think this is one thing you have to be continuously hopeful I'm hopeful that it will lead to a a change in the contract that better enhances our ability to protect students there's no guarantee because what we have is an agreement on not agreement on a change and so I so I'll have to be be hopeful but in the meantime I don't feel like I can support rolling over for another year a contract with the same provisions in it without knowing that those provisions are going to be changed and the fact that it's a pretty substantial financial package that we put put on the table which I think from the district standpoint was the right thing to do but I also felt we had some really important things that we wanted and and should should have had discussed at the same time sort of a concurrent discussion and that didn't happen so I'm gonna be fully I'm gonna be fully supportive of the process going forward and in the district sort of advancing the recommendations that we think will enhance our ability to protect students I think it's important to set the context I think there are a lot of misapprehensions here so I think it's important to set the context about this was a limited reopener for this contract and you can describe that better than I in terms of addressing these issues and if we were to have put all of our I mean I don't think director berm Edwards expresses any concerns regarding student safety that are not shared equally or greater by other members of this board but to have included that issue in this bargaining process would have been an entire renewal of a full bargaining process rather than to take care of some of the housekeeping items and move on to IB B so just to just to set that context a little bit or perhaps Rita you want to set that context as to why we chose to make a commitment to tackle those issues specific ivb process and there was also a statement about to wait another year and I don't think anyone has an expectation that it will take a year to address those issues or that we won't be able to implement that immediately once we do reach agreement that is absolutely our hope and intention in that process so I think it's important to address some of those misconceptions let me just see one so the the board as a whole made a decision
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to to do this as a student two-stage process we we had earlier decided to make this a limited opener and and do essentially a roll over with one maybe two major items from both sides open to negotiation both sides identified those those issues and from the board perspective it was precisely what director Britton Edwards mentioned that accomplishing the recommendations from the Whitehurst reports that would entail changes in treatment of building files and and and handling of concerns about educator conduct and also talking talking with p80 about their concerns on the proposed policy around professional conduct and some months ago three months ago I want to say more or less the full board made a decision that the kinds of issues that are involved in professional conduct are sufficiently complicated and sensitive and and require that they require really a significant investment of time and energy to develop policies contractual language that would allow us to have a system that that really ensures student safety and and that was best done it was decided by the full board that would best be done through an interest-based bargaining process rat rather than a traditional contract negotiation process so I think while I understand the the concerns that director briam Edwards expresses I think both the PPS team and the p80 team have have acted in a way that makes me uh narak touristical II optimistic that we will in fact be able to come up with an agreement around these two major issues through an interest-based bargaining process that will be both robust and sensitive to the sort of the essence of the teaching profession and I would say most of my life for the last 20 years has been spent around around child safety so this is a very big item for me and I think for the whole board as well as the administration so as well as p80 so I think this is going to be a we're still coming up with dates for the for this IBB process but there there was a lot of discussion and director Broome Edwards was part of it during the the bargaining process a lot of discussion about kind of mutual agreement that we needed to do this and we needed to do it carefully but also expeditiously so I would anticipates I think both sides have an expectation that we're going to have a completed agreement covering these two major items by the end of this school year and probably before then and it's getting under way this month it's yes dates and timelines have been identified and first of all I'd like to start by saying that I'm always pleased when cher Moors uncharacteristically optimistic I am as well I want to reiterate that the interest based bargaining process is starting at the end of this month there is a strong sense of urgency from the bargaining team as well as from p80 and I also expect that we will have a conclusion by the end of this school
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year and we have strong intentions around implementation as soon as we get agreement I think we're looking at the fastest way to get there yeah sorry I didn't mean to interrupt you I don't so I just want to respond to a couple of things we said so yes there was a limited agreement but like we agreed to the limit I mean we set the limits so it's not that there was something artificial or somebody else outside said this is what it's limited to we agreed to the limitations and well there has been some discussions about the full board I think from the very beginning I have expressed a concern about the sequencing and the decoupling so not there I think there was full agreement on the issue that we felt was a really a priority for the board to bring forward what I have consistently said is the decoupling of the to that from the ratification of the economic piece of it from the other piece was not something that I was supportive of doesn't mean I'm not that I agree on the the board's priorities and the district's priorities and the the process by which we're gonna going to get it but the decoupling I think creates some vulnerability for that for the district because we in effect tonight will be ratifying one side of things that's is important to both the district and to teachers but we don't yet have the thing that we identified as most important and I'm going to go back to the year and it has been a year because the Whitehurst report came out last spring last October we had the professional conduct and it would be great to have something done by the end of the school year but it still will be a year later and well if you read we read the language and again I'll be the first to applaud the group if we have something by the end of the year but the agreement the the language doesn't require that there be an agreement by that time period nor even let the agreement is so it just we have less certainty and I guess from my just given my experience over the years I have a different perspective because I've been part of different things so I'm hopeful and I will be completely supportive of the district's team and accomplishing what I think is something really important for us any other questions for Steph I guess my opinion is that this is the most expeditious way to resolve all the issues including the student safety issue because if we hadn't done the limited reopener we would be engaged in a lengthy full bargaining process for all of these issues that would be underway now and may well take us beyond the point where we're gonna get resolution through the IBB process for student safety so the reason that we as a board made this decision was because we thought it was the most efficient and the most sensible way to get to the conclusion that we're all seeking I believe we're all seeking okay the board will now consider resolution number five 862 2019-20 agreement between Portland Association of teachers in school district number one Jay Multnomah County Oregon do I have a motion so moved okay director constan moves director Esparza Brown seconds the motion to adopt resolution five 862 is there any further board discussion on this resolution yes as always I still have my wife and my sister and my niece teaching so that that is a conflict but one that I'm allowed to vote on for guidance from the Oregon School Boards Association because the impact is so small do we have any public comment okay the board will now vote on resolution five eight six two all in favor please indicate by saying yes yes yes I'll opposed no any abstentions resolution five eight six two is approved by a vote of six to one with six to one period okay thank you thank you
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the board will now vote on the remaining items in its business agenda already having voted on resolution 586 to miss Houston are there any changes to the business agenda no do I have a motion in a second director constan moves director Bailey seconds motion to adopt the business agenda is there any public comment no any board discussion so I just wanted no I just wanted to comment on part of what we're proving here are is a several field trips I think it would be helpful as we're thinking about our racial comment equity lens and using that I'm to have as part of the application still have demographic data of forget who are the kids that are going on the field trips because I tend to see the schools that are better resourced maybe going on the field trip so be really I think helpful for us to see who is accessing those and what schools are and what are the demographics of the kids that are going on on the different field trips or excursion so it's just my thoughts on something that might be added thinking about our policy so that's kind of a great sort of compliment to the issue I was going to raise there just noticing that you have two schools going to the same event and a 900 student difference in Parden 900 I'm sorry what did I say ok $900 purse right yes for the same for the same trip and just the you know as we continue to look at how we support our students having equitable experiences not necessarily based on the affluence of their of the parental student body or their foundation any other comments okay the board will now vote on the business agenda all in favor please indicate by saying yes yes all opposed say no any abstentions the business agenda is proved approved by a vote of 70 to 0 okay this is an abbreviated board meeting we will be a journey now turning the meeting now and we will reconvene upstairs in Mazama correct in Mazama for a work session devoted to the visioning process okay

Event 2: Portland Public School Board-Work Session April 2, 2019

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okay so great so so good thank you all for being here so this is an important milestone in our visiting efforts I just wanted to kind of recap where we've been and we're gonna die really beat into some conversations tables and our consultants will explain the process and then I want to share a little bit about where we're heading and kind of what the the remaining eight are to everybody especially our public knows what to expect so we started this back in December this visioning process going out to the community and the way that we started as you remember was a student summit so that was a perfect way to begin our visioning process but today by going to our students and hearing from them their hopes dreams aspirations for the future of their school experience and their siblings and their called it their friends experience that led to a series of guiding coalition meetings so we've had six or three of them back to back were we invited about a hundred stakeholders representing our diverse community diverse community of parents students teachers principals many of you the board obviously and in the guiding coalition really helped inform and help shape what was coming from our community session so over the course of these last four or five months we've been going out to the community who have heard from thousands of folks thousands of inputs are in round one if you recall we had over 12,000 data points over 1200 folks contribute information to we synthesize much of that and again last couple weeks ago we had our final guiding coalition and so we are here this is our work session where we want to go dive deep and with the board and senior leadership to really unpack what we found after today the next big important milestone will be May May 11 and that's what we're calling our community installation where we'll have an opportunity for the entire community to come and and share and learn about the vision and where we are provide any final feedback in the process again this has been an iterative process so that's May 11th and so between May 11 and June 25 is when we'll be working with many of you with a board to craft the final vision that will be shared and voted on publicly by this Board of Education that will obviously be at the end of the school year and so when we come back in the fall we'll be a big push to make sure that every single person in our community is aware is attuned to the vision and the aspiration that this community wants for Portland Public Schools children so so that's where we are again this is another iterative process day so we're gonna get dirty and they're gonna have great conversations and have fun so with that I'll turn it over to Prospect studios Fiona and Sonya to lead the efforts this plate will say somebody man dropped this so it was found just outside so you have okay so the first thing we want to do is going to give you a quick overview of what we're going to do this evening chair I just wanted to say to any of those great things I'll give you a quick overview of what we're going to do and then we're just going to jump right in because we put a tight timeline so we're going to give you an opportunity just to kind of browse the work in progress so that Jonathan Tobias at about this point now where we put a lot of them draft materials to the class so that's really what we're going to dig into tonight so we have motive to drop I don't portrait
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I should be coming out here the Graduate School track error systems over here and as a reminder to everybody some of you are going to be really tired of hearing me say this but there's sort of a budget we're operating with is that the Graduate portrait is the starting point for whatever we want to be troopers graduated one of the adults has what attributes to the animal team together support for graduates and if the adult just browsing amended these tables we're going to take two and then after those deep types will study doing some work on values at the last meeting so while we take a chance to look at what's coming out of that and then all of the inputs from tonight will be folded into the work that goes into the community installation whether it's you'll be able to wait as well so that's kind of the shape of the evening so what we'd like you to do first of all is to pick a buddy so not somebody that you work with normally not somebody who if you're a board member board member ideally just pick somebody to just walk around these three sort of these stations in the room and just read through what's up there and have somebody just to share some thoughts with [Music] [Music]
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you know what's there feel free to move around these are the correlations for four values in it those that the graduates or control which we have in size so this was that baking dishes this has been just pretty familiar to me yeah this was kind of discussion [Music] we make sure that you can understand the language is very drowsy so don't worry about effective time without Polish
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okay wonder how we wouldn't thank you [Music] but everything's we believe there remember starter was really so this yeah right [Music] what about that something needs to be believe in following all civil rights laws okay so we're gonna have a chance to take a deep dive into each of these areas but before we do that it's just first of all any particular nicest thing anybody come up with anything going around anything that you just want to do right now so in the student portrait and yet how about this self-awareness and how do you want to develop that yep and then we also look over adult profile yeah we're saying you want to go to have that kind of awareness and we were there on fire citizen kind of what they need
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to do to get me on some of these things because the truth is a lot of times we're hiring pretty young people who haven't experienced that themselves and of course they wouldn't think we're not giving them those opportunities so I think it aligns beautifully and I can just imagine so so two things glad we're calling out racial equity issues I didn't see anything around class poverty and I think that should be less part of the discussion secondly we've got slabber again that's with value but not collaborative decision-making processes so we've just made some notes as we power around and some thoughts that we have hope that what's okay to do so when you come to the ok all right with that so what we're going to do now is we're going to dive into just one small piece of the adult portrait you might have noticed when you are doing your gallery so the last time we were onto or some of us we're all together many of us together we talked about the different role that the adults might fall into all of us are adults but what we didn't discover last time which is why we're bringing it back here is widel all of these stakeholders and all of these adult categories are important we know at the school district we need to begin to prioritize how we're thinking about these adults so we're going to do that now you should have a near you by voting top five and again I just want to emphasize it's not that not everybody is important obviously they're important because they came up as a category member but you prioritize in thinking about the first top five people that we want to begin to adults we need your [Music]
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[Music] [Laughter] okay thank you for doing that we'll come back to that at a later time but for now we're going to start deep diving into the three core incentives of our vision the graduates or trip those all portrait and the system shifts you're at a table with the prospect studio of the facilitator who will be guiding you through one of those elements we're going to do three rounds so you're going to get a chance to work on each element and the things that were really looking for during this deep dive so it fits the next hour twenty minutes around of the things they want to hear from you all for each of these include from the wording and what you've read are the elements the elements that are emphasized are they the right emphasis so that's one and again your facilitator will share this with you again something critical in an earlier conversation that might have been lost thought I think you mentioned something that you thought you saw and then this isn't just from guiding coalition this is also from the community engagement sessions as Jonathan right there were many many data points so we want to make sure that we get a chance to bring anything and then clarity and ability so [Music] [Music]
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[Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] one more exercise so on the ball will be here by the camera we've typed up essentially though we believe statements that came out of the exercise we did with poor values with the guiding coalition it routes under sort of a big idea so one might be empathy and then there's several bullets
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underneath that describes sort of the the the lean about empathy that we believe statements we're brainstorming a Burmese language oriented way to saying that so the boat of the dogs that you were just given what I'd like you to do is you know have a chance to come up here look at it I'll move this table so there's more rhythm and there's nine Big Idea buckets up there we'd like we do to sort of prioritize which five do you think are the most important in your mind when you think about the kind of core values that are needed to you know implement right the shifts that we're talking about here that we've been talking about and to get to those adult and graduate portraits so that's what that dot is for it's either a yellow dot or a red dot that you've got so that's step one or read them all think about okay a student-centered more important than so we need you to pick five and then I'm gonna have dots scattered throughout the room and then you don't have a limit on how many of these thoughts you can have but we'd like some thoughts from you about the bullets underneath it which one speak to you and resonate with you to most if you picked that big idea so if you picked empathy as one of the big ideas then which bullet underneath that really must read with you and you don't have a limit on those okay just don't I'm sorry just don't use red or yellow on that one that's the only all right so is that clear so come on up and read these [Applause] so as you're doing the big bucket loading if you're sitting here going the most important ones not up there and go ahead and let me know and we're gonna add [Laughter] [Music] [Music] that's our whole mission statement believe reading Twitter cherries creates empathy that's why it's valuable [Laughter]
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before we close up you want to make sure they've got an opportunity just to give some reflections so anything but particularly on the deep diet or the values exercise just anything that you want to just kind of share with [Laughter] [Music] that way but the description was written as if speaking about the perspective of the graduate portrait of a white student in that way one thing I just want to make sure feels like it all but we're really describing this very global graduate but when the we struggled a little bit of Pamela's things that were kind of the core mission of school to teach because we didn't want to stay in the box of the each of the core subjects with such a global description and as a very integrated learner so but what I I want to make sure is the whole thing together that we haven't actually missed back and it doesn't it's got a central and so if if we're if other people don't care then I think really especially those who don't think about the instruction all the time we really need you to look for that and say this is what right here and what I think I'm a little concerned that we're still I assumed it was bad without well I also think about like where we are currently in this day with graduation requirement on our in three
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years we've tried to move from the carcasses unit in the state to proficiency and we can't seem to go there because we can't get people out of the boxes you guys and when you look at all these other none of that is in a box so how are we going to take the content learning and move it to this kind of learner and still make sure it's solidly there it seems like even I struggle a lot to try to go there because I keep thinking about the requirements right but we got to have them on the transcript where the kids not getting go here go there so I get stuck back in that box so if he knew from like parent and community what do you think we ought to be doing about that if you also value this kind and also communication or their audience like like so it's flexibility or adaptability in communication I really want to make sure that we any yeah make that yeah ideally the but also sort of speaks to the need for collaboration I'm still coming back for a collaborative decision-making yeah you another collaboration back here decision-making is it really called out I think we look at building trust that's how we get there we we define here's what here's you're engaging your specific involvement anticipating a lot of this the adult worker values
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and internally as well but we're also operating resource environments so what are the system shifts that are a bit more powerful yeah Mississippi is that work that you're attending a tremendous visual or statewide can only help those that are funding if we don't have that compelling vision then it becomes easier to say why should we pour more money down that right call agreed okay I'm just gonna open the flow of any other comment about any last things before we close up I'll let you go a little bit early [Laughter] oh I like what next we are having a community installation where we'll get to see a board receiving a couple weeks prior prior to the board meeting on June 3 fitness where we hope [Music] just getting coalition see kind of the package before the installation and then again before I can't remember what we decided Nevada coalition is obviously encouraged to be a part of the three installations and so they will be part of the broader
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celebration yeah yeah I'm sure I'm sure we can we will being to use conversation and nothing let them know where we are take you off


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