2018-09-24 PPS School Board Work Session
| District | Portland Public Schools |
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| Date | 2018-09-24 |
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Event 1: PPS Board of Education Work Session Sept 24, 2018 2/2
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because I might be useful to do that
piece first and then we can make
decisions about
maybe can you hear us okay not great but
I'll take in there okay feel free to you
know tell us to I'm trying to speak up a
bit morning and feel free to tell us -
okay thank you
so we've got three different options -
seems like the best one
and then we also would have talked a
little bit about food engagement
so we said at the beginning you know
we're sort of in the session designer
preference sorry Amy we're looking at
some slides at the moment I'll make sure
you get a copy of those I think you
might so when the design and prep stage
right now and so that the discussion is
really focused on what do we want that
stakeholder engagement process to look
like as we've heard obviously you know
we're very committed to doing a very
participative process and we've heard a
lot from each of you about how important
it is to bring the community and really
important and effective ways so I think
right now we just want to talk through
what might that look like
and what's the best way to do that
okay so this was which we don't have a
coalition that would be interaction
around like diversity that you can sort
of guarantee the diversity of
interaction in that sense and then so
this model sort of starts with a guiding
coalition which might have we could take
people into the future in a more
extensive way that we did today might
enjoy the panelists because might
include
some imagery and visualization and then
sort of thinking about trends so some
sort of real trend research pieces will
in this narrow so we can think about
what are the trends in education broadly
what are the kinds of things that are
shaping Portland we did a little bit of
looking at that for the mini version we
did earlier thinking about the
demographic changes and then thinking
about how those might change in the
future and then that group would then
create some very drop obviously the drug
graduate and educator and potentially
other adult portraits coming out of that
session then those sessions would be
brought out to community engagement
sessions so that much bigger community
meetings and maybe targeted community
specific groups you know that's
obviously that's to be decided to have
how you think that's what's best that's
digital asynchronous yeah
so one of the things we want to
because with us you know what's the
right channel was the right digital
channel so that people can follow along
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with the word
for comments or really for
a little way
but people who can't actually get to
think specifically other because they
work the wrong hours or they have to
yeah they prefer to do it
yeah what about breaking yeah so
guiding coalition community
to look at what came out of the garden
coalition but also to give some real
input around scene questions that work
up with the props in the data coalition
some learning journeys we talked about
those earlier as well so essentially two
physical learning journeys to different
places that are already doing
might be interested looking at and also
again a virtual learning journey with a
sort of collection of different
interesting
Phil clips and sites
so that people again can have a sense of
that what's one of the things that might
be happening in the future starting out
right now without actually having to go
on a trip that information would they
not back to a second guided coalition
which there would be discussion about
learning from Millennials
some discussion on assistantship so one
of the ways we're thinking about this is
we think about the people first in the
first set of meetings because the people
and students particularly other sort of
key piece of this and then the system
needs to change to what are what we want
to be true
so then there's a second round of
community
I meant coming out of that aboard XLT 14
work session to really sort of stuff
you look at it really do
pretty synthesized
post-its to prove that some unless you
want to in which case we'll just rewrite
it but yeah so then you know essentially
something like a group we had tonight
with then starts a really dig in and
think about well what are the sort of
how do we how do we distill what's in
this and then that would go back out to
the guiding coalition three to sort of
then give some input back on that and
then a community installation which
would also be
exhibit for a science fair to give
opportunity with a broader public to
again gave us up
it's um
before I get into that
so that is something I think we've
discussed a little bit before but that's
the kind of
are you
I think yeah my go through would have
been the name unless it's a question for
clarification which this time of night
okay so I'll guess with it yeah okay so
then the second scenario sort of flips
that model so we have a community
engagement sessions first and then
so we have so we go out to the community
first and again you know to be
determined who when where
besides it may take let me do a few
really big meetings at men so the
targeted meetings that's all still to be
determined but in those sessions because
we would have you know we want to make
sure that people get some of the inputs
that the guy in coalition might have in
the earlier vision we would do a version
of some of the exercises we have done
tonight
just cover talk that would be a very
sort of structured process in that sense
we're thinking the something like the
virtual learning journey would be an
interesting start so one of the things
we do that one district is people so
three to four hour with other people
and as they came in
naturally I guess
no all at once sorry they went into the
auditorium person sort of watch
first and then went out that sort of
engaged with some of the questions
problems so you could see there's
something like the three horizons
exercise we did tonight we could do with
a larger group because we could get
you could do a very large group to get
people to give any place we wouldn't
have the opportunity necessary to have
the same kind of conversation about that
then you might have
but you could get much more info so
there's a kind of bigger a Brett death
trade-off with these two options but it
gives me a scenario to give the
opportunity of saying the community gets
to do Paris draft of this and then a
guided coalition I think I think we're
still there still so it committed to the
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idea of having that curated diverse and
representative working together would
then take what the community had
generated and and sort of again from
their experience either add to their for
it occupy those things interpret them
again we'd get out of that session the
kind of drops educated for traits
graduate portraits and on the right
and then again we would want to go back
out to the community so to to share what
had happened in the first sessions the
person
so everybody's kind of seeing for the
what will eventually be the artifacts
that come out of the whole process
everybody's kind of getting an
opportunity to see those as they roll
and are creative you know in all the
sessions it's not nothing comes out at
the end of the week
so second round of community engagement
sessions and in that what we would want
to look at system shifts as well so to
start with the people
so out of the second round of community
engagement sessions that we have
regarding coalition again it's a
distillation of the inputs from the
community and then going into the board
SLT for team work session to do that
further distillation
thousands of pieces of
in a meaningful way and I think one of
the comments that
how difficult is to maintain the power
of ideas when they come
that's the that's the really the art of
that distillation
so I'm sort of thinking about that is we
query the due dates of stages
so that would be scenario 2 so it's sort
of similar but it flips
it's community me to expose that got a
collection
and it takes out trying to coalition
code up there young Connecticut
difference yep
like a conversation yes alright so
my brain
yes okay so here are some of the
implications and considerations
design miscommunicated sessions
integrating some of the exercises we did
today there's
just organizing thank you so that we can
make sure that there's meaningful
activities going on and small batches it
just it's a little bit of a design work
so we need probably 16 days to justice
on that from decision point we're not
sure what
those Stephanie resources would be so we
kind of have to flush that out
an opportunity to do that and explore
that more if we're going to go
do you in one of the places where I
think it implicates internal resources
where you is definitely the need to
train our community facilitators
whoever they are in turtle or a partner
I think with you know the finches
partnering with community organizations
to partner with us to do that just
in Scenario free this is still the flip
model from scenario one still community
engagement such as service starting off
with them and in really this scenario I
would say the main idea here is how can
we do the majority of that design but
still stay closer to the original
timeline
not have it stretch up way that's what
we originally intended
and so we would just do sort of the one
community engagement session and then
one guy coalition - meaning what we
would have been - still down but then go
back out to the community for a second
round to further give some input around
what came out of there go straight into
board SLT for teamwork sessions where if
distilled into sort of the final content
so we take out guiding coalition - and
a good implication for that
shapes of time
potentially
and we should first just ask what
questions
I think there's
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yes less
how we doing
from from a process whatever
because that's where we started to get
some germs
thirdly as
you guys were somewhere over here
and I think the board needs
that to me that's an outcome of this to
be one of the outcomes that I want out
of this is it really broad outreach that
touches a lot of football reflecting the
diversity of our community
they didn't host bill
as I see he's got all three of these
scenarios being able
I agree with you but I don't think so I
just but I don't know I so my questions
to that the community average pieces
what exactly did
yes
that's your vision
that's better click down
which of the scenario
it's a good question but I don't see
you could have
but I don't see that that
I think the way they need scenarios
yeah I think you're asking a woman macro
question right I didn't starting their
right hand
what's our role as
this process
it is too
to specify some
the product and
so one thing I was sure
question but in between scenario ones
is the community
discussion group
in other words you can flip it
GC
uh terrific
a concession yeah is the community
session to see
or is there something different I think
is yes and to be determined and this is
why so yes in CERN in terms of the
intent to arrange abroad
is is there whether it's one model or
the other
the specificity around that design is to
be determined
so it could look the same in terms of
numbers we're coming how you know
specific some of them may be broader but
all of those are so
my primary concern
I think
a lot of
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I think one
it's really pre work for
agent section versus the guy coalition
is doing X and their way out in front of
the community versus it's pretty work to
rap before successful
I only I'd say so I sit with the
original design
maybe as
addition with the
engaging sessions
and sort of before sots of a
reconciliation and calibration so you
don't get too far to the end and then I
go how do we get so disconnected this is
to have a good check-in after each one
of those sessions just like are we all
in the leadership team you know an
agreement that we're heading in the
right direction or do we need to
recalibrate so that would be the only
thing that I would add but I think it's
a well-designed process it's got your
question about
how the specific community
is why it is
well when I said
we increase the 700 years ago all week
you narrowed our list down to 40 again
against your eyes got real big
and understandably show so so that's
where when I say this is part that I
want to get specific on
so that we get on the same page
five lengths just just looking like
their community five language groups
african-americans special education you
know boom you're up to ten or twelve
well and that's what I was going to say
about that first scenario Julie I
actually agree with you physics lighten
up starting with the wisdom of the older
and we need those community elders but
it could be really broad and I don't
know would that be a place to start it
get a feel for how it divided up and how
many vision or how many community
exceptions could be needed I don't have
a sense
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do we have to decide before we start
with the guiding coalition or the day
help us make this determination which
seems natural within the broader
the question
that impacts directly
because if the community comes back and
since this has a lot of wealth and it's
given to
if we're okay being an open-ended
the discussion
democracy where
you know 38 my pony group say X
we're going to do a 30 of the 40 that it
will certainly it
so
I think what's the purpose of the
English
it's
trust ownership and absolutely to inform
you know we have the gaps our expertise
or perspective or relationships that
have
I just I think
be an agreement on what there
except that I'm afraid of don't take the
time
about the communities
we can't be cheaper square
except the front across if I could look
across communities Ione and no I'm not
going to say it's going to maybe it will
but I don't have a feeling of how it's
going to look across our communities
we have to honor the way in which they
process it so it seems like we need some
discussion with those stakeholders at
the market booth first have just one get
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some brainstorm ideas have been creating
a process I mean it's not like they're
gonna dictate but again I I don't know
enough defining more importantly the
duty of the guiding coalition well I
thought you said the wisdom of the
elders
it's obviously a lot more people with 17
but we would we would back out of really
calm
stakeholder engagement process looking
at every state
and stakeholder group and then figure
yeah we haven't done that yet but that's
a process that would be part of this
we have you put together a prototype and
then ask for
it'd be even better if we did customized
frameworks and chocolates
your customers based on feedback
and I worry I've actually get a little
pushed out there I worried that it could
start too much of the total height but
it's very mainstream starting that way
might alienate some became
just quickly money to go but you know
so I think that
a process for a walk right and you were
talking about the content oh yeah
how we might do it
about
some number
cross section
about four
we contemplate maybe 20 section
obsessions in 20
at least the board prepared to
personally
there has to be some sort of realistic
for the
cross-section in the first round and
another rapid I don't know what that
number is
maybe of six to eight you could do round
tables and a couple bigger ones I think
that's that's what used to be prototype
use by online surveys and other ways
when pushing out and asking for
information training staff also you know
it can be small groups large groups and
this is the design that we haven't done
right yet and obviously the more it will
have a big weight and kind of helping to
shape you know one of you leads a small
group session with 12 people or it could
be a hundred people right like so I
think those are things that we want to
determine with you all to kind of figure
out what the best approach is they could
look differently in every day right
seems like a favor
if I understood you threatening
and I sort of feel like well it's
definitely a pretty interesting
photograph
but maybe we have
you know communication
setup
big ones that we could do but maybe we
also back
working with
to do
facilitate or make connection school and
they cope I also wanted to make at least
an hour thinking community and clips
internal community so we would want to
also go out to teachers and you know
you know because there's there's we want
to get a lot about boys and smaller
sellers
yeah
that all sort of work
right
business community
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at least me
they gotta tell you you're up don't
worry we're really quick
yeah if we want to go that route
it's a large number
small meetings and if you
we've done the district is not
I said what a quadrant in you know
Wilson High School Roosevelt type of
them yeah for a guy and we know and we
know who shows up it's almost primarily
and that's good they should be there
we could do two quadrants in the first
round
a second
the process
some folks might be more interested in
the topic about honey
and your community
ways because
where
so can I be the voice of skepticism
my idea of some concerns about
kind of getting pride of place into the
guiding coalition
and that's mostly mostly because I have
some assumptions about limits being met
and
there may be some elders who have actual
connections with real people
but my suspicion is a lot of them
are not going to conditions with
you know they're going to be the
leadership types who write disparagingly
combat
you know I wonder do I want to give them
do I want to give the quick that I
imagine it's going to be there you know
the authority to craft a vision for
everybody else when frankly my guess is
many of the people will be in it room
don't send their kids to public school
so can't we have a different vision
exactly have a different vision ow
that's so much feeling this is something
I would like to push back on I do hear
talking about these community engagement
sessions as being at different points
reaching out to different people from
what I've seen tonight I think that
would be a mistake I think we're gonna
need
we're going to need repetition with the
same people because this discussion is
way too abstract it uses way too much
jargon I think there's gonna be a huge
learning curve on this and if you want
to get any feedback you're going to need
to bring people back to the trough
multiple times and they started off
journey
as we know that you actually have to as
a large group or through every stage at
this and this isn't just about gathering
we put in pinyin the point of this
process is that there's actually new
learning and if you're only educating a
small number then you might end up with
actually those testers at university
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ball because community groups won't have
the benefit of work is word over here in
our first column aiming for the third
column like I said earlier there are
lots of districts already operating in
the third column
they're already on the next generation
of work and we're trying to sort of
leapfrog but we can't expose what expose
a poor group to you know some of those
exam
so because I agree with you it is more
ideal that we all kind of move through
this together
but we have to find ways to share other
stakeholders out there that like these
sir chime in because they will have very
valuable thoughts about what they want
for their children in the future and I
want the Stig option add grain so that
the mechanics of moving
this mission it's important that's right
there's a group process in here which is
I don't want to short the guiding
coalition part but if one prerequisite
is people understanding they're going to
be paired off to facilitate some of
these new groups that might be a way to
kind of very idea what they're saying
fall actually so
there's no facilitation to comment along
those lines to that I mean so you've
brought up good points that I've been
thinking about and how those legs part
of our community would need some some
pre-work done to understand some of
these really late little concepts that I
think that the language needs to be
dealt with
it's a something frankly no matter how
that we could translate those the words
but I am really concerned that it's it's
right now targeted just a certain group
of parents so how do we stretch that and
then how do we create the process that
is accessible to everybody because it
has to be everybody's voice it's just
reiterating kind of like you said but
I'm just so I am worried about how if
that access point for people
I'm gonna get to director Permenter
explain you all get to Desai and have
input and who's sitting on that 90% core
team right so we want to make sure as an
example that we have parents who we're
migrant workers right and that's a big
decision see right and then we process
right and then we orient test right to
what they're walking into
right because as you as you pointed out
I mean a migrant parent might be like
overwhelmed even with nice people right
so how do we orient them and so that's
the responsibility of this team here
with the core team with the SLT to
really orient every single one of those
90 people to a space where they're going
to be contributing along the entire way
sure I think you
they grabbed us that
right but that is so I my experience is
Amy are you still there Mike and Rita
the lucky lab group that we had of 40
people with a diverse group now but they
could have banged out the san francisco
vision in 45 minutes okay which in the
vision documents the lucky one
an education process
no I'm not gonna work okay
you know it again to me have you read
the San Francisco vision document
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is there anything in there that rocked
your world to go wow I never thought of
that before and I don't think there is
ok2say I'm gonna agree with you and
they'd agree with you but for this an
aspirational disagree all agree yeah
okay so so yes this journey
together
this is it please
not 50 million things
it's not necessary it's not about
necessarily about the ideas when someone
who was on the ground during this whole
thing I would say that the power was the
fact that those that went on the journey
actually materialized and tried to
mature lives everyday
that vision that aspiration right
whether it was students talking about
these are the profiles that I are these
occurs that I want to the teachers the
philanthropic leaders to the business
but the fact that the mayor every time
he he spoke there was a mention of s if
you see a mention of the graduate
profile of the big ships I mean it was
part of the lexicon of the city
so I just want to make sure we're stuck
on that stuff we'll focus on feeding
agent right now and we haven't heard
much from Amy that I also oh she did
Danny you have anything
yeah I mean I guess one thing one thing
I would call an experience so one of the
things I would say that I like about the
first scenario is that with the guiding
coalition its it seems like a very
culturally responsive model and that it
sets up a group of almost like the
Promotora model where you have a set of
folks who are invested who who
understand the process and it can help
with a lot of that translation aim can
be that sort of conduit of information
between sort of folks who are always at
the table and folks who need to be at
the table and so I think that that is
it's good I think the other thing is
that the around community engagement it
does feel like there's a lot of I think
everyone has what I've seen really good
community engagement happen has been
when you get close to the organizations
and the folks with expertise and sort of
like take those take that advice and I
do think that there are quite a few
examples of leaders who are effectively
and have like really good relationships
with with broad constituencies and I
think it's a matter of getting that good
advice and sort of bringing that into
into
into the process which everything that
I've you know that we've been talking
about the core team has been about
getting that that piece there and I
think that you know the the the biggest
challenge is going to be sort of
thinking about how do you how do you
sustain engagement and develop those
relationships and having that guiding
coalition as a body of as a body of
folks who are invested for more than
just the the one community engagement
meeting I think it's going to be could
be a way to catalyze more involved and
deeper relationships with the
stakeholder process moving forward
because they're you know by virtue of
committing to be on the guiding
coalition and being in it for the long
haul you do have a level of engagement
that hopefully can spark continued
engagement
so speaking polish and composed
we're always a
no I hear stuff going back and forth we
know
but I don't think storage
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yes so that's the question I mean that's
the question back to the board
I mean rain is it the right people and I
some people on that list that I would
agree with her you know can be
characterized as masters I was
even an effort and I was thinking ladies
and gentleman this Birdman
it's better to cross I mean player
looked at the business mr. Stowers I
don't know son like it was
some point
so as an example I added probably most
of those those are the relationships
that I had but I don't expect all their
a minute ready there might be one down
are you know well that's what I was
thinking yeah you can pare it down in
there there's we all submit names that
we thought were good and we're gonna see
some names on there
we also I think it's important to
combine the viewers like the guys
correlation of the primary purposes and
again it's our expectation that this
group is going to continue in some form
and what's that purpose and except well
that's what that's what I heard was a
big selling point is it's not teaching
as they grew we're safe they're safe
permanently but this is a group
community
leaders that we want to then go
that's different
you know we also had a discussion
let's pick some not usual suspects
who aren't going to have
so which with what what's what's our
purpose here is it kind a diversity of
and backgrounds or as connections
I think missions Reapers yeah well okay
but
all right I mean sort of follow-on to
that so if you want to get you know
stakeholder representatives there are
going to be
I think the purpose is going to define
what level of person among those
stakeholders we want to have sitting in
the guiding coalition I mean do we want
to have I mean I'm just gonna pick some
four instances do we want to have a
mayor there or a we okay with having the
mayor's assistant do we want the chair
of the County Commission or do we want
one of the you know one of these one of
one of the others so what are the other
commissioners you know do we want do we
want the director of he'll share the CCO
or do we want you know some kind of
mid-level person
you know the word directors going to
have a very different perspective than
the mid-level person and the directors
gonna have a whole lot more juice than a
mid-level person but I just need some
help figuring out who's gonna be on the
guiding coalition and what we're gonna
ask I think one of the things that is
important be cams like if you say it's
gonna be three two days sessions I'm
sure the mayor is gonna say I'm not
gonna like that I like to send my chief
of staff and then we decide like do we
want the chief of staff or not but I
think we should start with what what
what is it that we want and then that
will partly dictate whether you want
somebody at a high level like look watch
so either you want to think you're me or
if you're going to be getting a variety
of different traits and
people and it's finding the right mix
there but you don't want to pick all
leaders or all followers or all just
contributors theoretically you want to
get this a mix of levels
well because just as hopper University
the experiences
00h 50m 00s
about the same thing so I think that's
setting up the job description
mr. holiday were two people
using yes
so terms of purpose I think
we can hit great the process we want
diversity to
to bring that perspective
so we definitely wanted students
you know I'm not going to think you know
we don't want to say
with other students as well
mixture of students and many of them
might be comfortable I don't know we can
even predict the informal ambassador
things that can happen
people might become
they might not we can't guarantee that
but they will be people who can speak to
it if some the
whatever graduate school somebody
well I would actually listen squirrely
you know I think so but I can't we
definitely want people who either have
been here you know
you can go back to their institutions
and say this is what was decided this is
exciting
and with people
kids
the diversity across so many different
dimensions
I know I'm thinking we would like
definitely directional which scenario
and
okay
yeah
so yes some before that run time
we are fine we are both being
and I think
with a great start for the conversation
around onion design
first hungry
those are independent questions no
matter which scenario that
but I think if we
get to that next level at the end must
be out there
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and then come back and have this
question compensations
and I think it
I already said I that's the only one I
think that started with that guiding
coalition yeah and I think that that's
essential I think the rest of it I mean
it looks fine
that'd be for one also
sir
we're still there
I'm sure about if we
first because that can be oriented
towards how do we do s2 outreach
00h 55m 00s
you'll have to test drive backwards
further refinement more exercises system
kind of stuff just our that with some
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so what's
is actually
yes
to grapple with
like don't like
really grapple with them and even
they'll provide some insight into which
things may not resin
I think we could do both in the first
session around also engaging the guiding
coalition to give some feedback on
scenario
could do that or we could proceed it and
say and ask
to go directly to the key
and ask of these different kinds of
scenarios we have there like tweeting
game with one wristwatch which aspects
of this design resonates with you what
doesn't do that better it doesn't
necessarily have to be in that session
and we can also put their input on that
so you're open to the format of the
first got my foolish maybe some
community
and ideas or in your feedback but also
you would want to start some of the work
he did today because only three meetings
but you could do a combination to the
combination you know because we could
have a bit of a parallel process there
where we actually start with your
guiding coalition that has
about who's a knife cutting coalition
want to invite them early
I sort of build some relationship and I
think we could stop those conversations
with people
think of the people who have
relationships in communities
the established organist
I mean I'm okay with scenario
just
I
I still Harbor
let's make sure that we
curate that grape soda
probably decide
I guess
is it really did we know the grief that
concern our fathers
then so one option we had was to do
creating a long list and then
right so we know what diversity but we
want a lot of
some age diversity of these it was quite
compelling to have
we definitely want socio-economic
the language diversity
education experience locusts
you know so we wanted we wanted to
entertain I think
how we might do that
we get from how do we get to that what
figure before it get that malar yeah no
it's okay who's gonna make the final
decision
is that something board members once
well I think there's maybe like a
recommendation
yeah that's
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so one thing again when you look at the
guiding coalition this you will not
believe in moons and we will potentially
I was to present you know one option
that the board can you know say yes no I
just for you know so I think that part
of this next conversation which is about
about communication and engagement
primary purpose
a cross-section and thoughtful
the other is specific
third or
thanks for the shamefully
what's the right size
knowing that there will be
well there's there's that list five
students by parent so is that how it
started here in slots perspective I
think
you're real our previous work had 70
have you've done 70 managers roughly
thinking like 3 times the number of
people tonight with the only to me
almost like at the that'd be hard to get
manage
you know
I think it's important that
recommendation has a why but why this
list what's the breakdown how does it
fit with the job description and
specific nuances
represents
I think is for
cherien's on there so this looks like
this is the group that's just going to
bless whatever is done
so productive contrarian
but I think that way you get some
external credibility because it's not
just yeah they hand-picked the people
that are gonna agree with them so that
people in community like yeah that
that's a representative
describing my shirt
the good thing is you all have a much
better sense
they can
so I would suggest
yeah
in half that profile third of the
coalition
is our people that might
so I think that's
good
so the I guess the second so that's I
think we we've come to a conclusion with
the board around the scenario the second
part of the discussion I think we can
have it pretty rapidly is how is it what
is true but how do we want to engage how
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do you as a board want to be involved in
these conversations how do you want to
be communicated with so I think those
are the two scenarios
opportunity
stuff like this and I think we do more
of them
other options and although as 14 does
work
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14 weeks ended
I got last time but
14 for just as a there's something
it goes out beforehand
the other thing I think
is that whatever the report out is
the borders that were all getting the
same message that not the well the board
is getting one message and then getting
something
and
now that I'm never Johnson got me out to
who
give it us
yeah my god really you hate it I still
know I mean I think to be milk em to
know that like between like like the
core team did this work and there's two
new documents I'm just like sending out
an email like we met here's the quick
set of notes that everybody gets and
then you know there's these new
documents you know with links if you
want to look at it and that way
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yeah I think sing
they his head
so we're again
with the one
that would be distributed as basis
whatever it's scented and then also a
recap yeah so maybe whatever goes out to
everybody else but just please get
clarifying questions so suppose there's
something on the agenda for the court
team meeting that that you're interested
in are you thinking of going to the core
team unit no probably call somebody so
they're way the core team is it got
appointed that the board wasn't in the
rest of the board wasn't involved
and it was described as more so if
administrative or logistic so the
support team so to me my guess is I look
at the agenda and like check I'm buying
somebody else
but if I see something that like I feel
strongly about like a feather and the
board members weren't going to be
perfect creating coalition
sure that mighty aside pick up the phone
and call somebody
I didn't kind of Courtney
I'm because I'm just thinking you know
just as the guiding coalition folks are
supposed to be a same group of people
throughout I think having people kind of
drop in agreement we should identify one
person from the core team that board
members can provide that input that will
then share at the core team meeting
we've been recorded in the minutes and
reflected back well so I feel like I
need to resign and then ask if you want
to appoint me as your representative
just kind of
I don't so right now I got placed on as
your representative but without your
knowledge and permission
01h 10m 00s
so I want to undo that and then offer my
services to continue or in order to be
in that role as your representative so
that it's done
maybe this SB is overly structured so me
and I think there's a lot of value
to the board and they came who are the
13 all getting the same set of notes I
don't I don't think there should be two
cents easier notes that's and if you're
the one who writes it but for everybody
that's fine but I think we should all
get the same information and
maybe there's like an over index on like
I'm gonna look at the agenda and have
like every week of a bunch of stuff cuz
I probably not so I would just leave it
as
and yet it's generally how I go well
Roseanne's on the core team and as our
our board high it just seems like it's
consists there's a lot of consistency
there
I don't always attend
yeah so could be in Reno Scott Roseanna
me was sort of depending on what it is I
can't understand this
well thank you I I had questions so
inflexible
so I like
okay so let me say it again either make
me your board for them or make somebody
else here for
well I'm fine
already
you mean you mean being on it or being
yeah so I'm finally being the board rep
on the core team
I just don't think that all the work
that's happened if I have something I
want to
feel free to send my note and not have a
go
so I guess it's a distinction
the two of you guys sitting
representing
I'm good with that
all the communications
well okay how about we do this any
communication that goes to Fiona and
Sonia has to be shared with at minimum
me and Scott
because we're not going to be able to
represent you guys in our conversations
with the core team or or the two
consultants if we don't know what other
board members are saying
is hard for me
to do that every single time
well if it's relevant enough for you to
communicate with them I think it's
relevant enough for us to know about
because otherwise we're not going to be
able to do our job
well this I guess great had this
discussion
well that's that's that was my point
like if I'm not going to be
representative which is fine with me
okay this is what I was gonna pull rank
as chair of the board I have the right
to appoint people to certain positions
with it and you did but it doesn't mean
that you then are able to describe how
we're going to engage with everybody
else in the district so you did and I'm
not saying he I'm not telling you how to
deal with anybody else in the district
I'm just saying in order for this
planning process to work the two people
who are designated as the board
representatives on this process need to
be kept apprised of what other board
members are saying about the process
maybe so but you chose to make an
appointment without pencil
so you know I think there's which by the
way you did with Luigi that's fine and
by the way any okay so okay I don't
think this is productive at 10:40 at
night so how do we decide then what the
process is all the way do you kind of
feel that it should be a more open
process and then it may or may not be
01h 15m 00s
relevant to Florida I think it's hard to
be too prescriptive so I'm trying to
warn your Panther thing but I still
wanted to play me why I still have to
hear how you look at it's late
you know I mean my assumption
right
the document came out that has the board
writing coalition first person I called
this you called Stephanie had a
conversation this but
I don't think it's there's only one way
to communicate and I think part of you
know what
to share my perspective of why I was
asking for that sometimes
go through and
to use drive its
I was fine with that but I didn't want
my perspective too
filtered I wanted to share with them
what was in there be cases where
that's
okay except yep
if nobody circles back to me and Scott I
don't we won't know what's happened we
don't know whether decisions have been
made there was no decision
okay goodnight can I make a quick
recommendation on communications I want
to make sure Sonia and Fiona are
supported in what their role is so you
know it's up to the board and decide
what all your role is but let's say the
call does go to so near Fiona or to
Jonathan or Stephanie or myself I want
to make sure we know what's expected so
that we don't end up with triangulated
conversations there's a lot of interest
in this process and I think it's because
people are excited and I think that's
very cool
so we're trying to come up kind of with
our internal agreements that if a
conversation takes place we somehow
capture it and the most two most
important people to have that
information is Sonya and Fiona so that
they can figure out how to get it back
into the core team and into the process
so could we agree to some guiding
principles of if there's a conversation
with Sonja and Fiona that then it makes
it back into that core group meeting and
if there's additional questions maybe
about clarification the folks that the
core team meeting could go back then to
the person who had the conversation and
say I need more clarification I need
more information and that way it's
making it into the notes and it's
captured somewhere so we can operate
from it that might be a bridge solution
late at night until we have a deeper
discussion or try it out and see if it
works I want to make sure you guys get
what you need and I want to make sure
the board has a record of that of the
outcome at least of the conversation if
there is one and there may not always be
one
we can start with that and maybe adjust
from there
do you have
so so
not necessarily I'm not cynical at all
we're going to name people to the GC
because there's no way it's going to be
breakfast
I think we can map where people live we
can knock their income
representative
that's okay there's anything
well if it isn't okay then we need
get out why don't understand a city not
be
01h 20m 00s
okay well that got started - and we want
people to feel good about the process
securing the rectory
thank you
we feel like the Gulf direction we're
running again
good
yeah no of course
so I will make sure tonight that you
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