2018-08-13 PPS School Board Work Session

District	Portland Public Schools
Date	2018-08-13
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Meeting Type	work
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Event 1: PPS Bond Work Session - August 13, 2018

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and this was the option that was included early on in the master planning and has currently approved as part of the land-use review a new natural turf field improvements with new bleachers backstops and it also has and has included in that new 10 soccer and soccer option number two is inclusive of upgraded a ramp role and in that option we would be looking at softball facility things out on the existing artificial turf field in the grand whole scope include lighting major seating and improvements to the grenade back and as you can see in the diagram that was provided currently they laid out to softball PSV played simultaneously and we would try to achieve that as well this includes the combination of the softball field that in combination with the existing baseball field is already without so the idea here is that existing layout where you use for baseball name but we would make accommodations within the artificial turf field here for converting natural softball pitchers and in this option there's one clarification would be that in this that we've talked about that baseball and softball with alternates season alternate years in terms of courses also softball to play one-year baseball correct in option for the the this includes the scope to upgrade Park so as we know currently the softball in place at Wilshire Park innocent opinion in this existing state there are some issues with that not just in terms of the logistics of travel to the park by also just conditions of the field so the idea here is that upgrades would be made to make a state-of-the-art facility at Wilshire Park making that attractive location long term that including we think lighting that would be necessary for the teams there has been a cheering there's another partnership established that also made Washington country the fact that 3:30 a.m. you know they're playing straits as well without the same white yeah we're and lighting the field
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we have some preliminary come on set numbers that we had talked about and I think we were looking somewhere in the I think that was talked about somewhere the 35 million dollar range but once again very preliminary and information it's a consistent con that we developed with the options for locations with Napster this has a higher probability of green out versus the artificial purpose prefer correct that's the feedback diversity Carroll is there's already comment on the terms of the more detail around that reasoning I think that the way that the ball plays off of dirt and turf and grass is very different so I think if you look at I guess competitive softball college teams and think there's probably a mixed bag but there's usually a preference one over the other we didn't look at the option of dirt or natural turf for baseball because it's a multi-use field it needs to be able to be and there won't be any brain out there so I think the key thing here is the North field was originally planned in grass just a natural field because the park also uses it for other things and the softball team wanted it that way but I think if we're looking at title 9 we've got an issue with one team that never has rain outs and one team that doesn't then that's played out another other schools to such careful about that that's enough this is complicated and that's one of the complications that if there is a preference should you be building one dirt and one artificial turf is there a TPS a fragmentation so we the materials we've laid out some of the feedback that we receive so from the feedback diverse input from different GPS app there is a currency about what is the best option so we don't think as oa7 necessarily our right position to say that these are the right factors away what is the best for us to be taking the information we're happy to analyze it our recommendations Facebook on title 9 and access and then the flexibility to have multiple opportunity of the multi users we would choose two or four because it had both given the multi use to gain that by having the turf and the softball bear on the turf was currently our user pulling out a lot of dirty dirty camp planet in this frame secondly title 9 either through Carol I think we would be send ourselves up by creating an advantage of disadvantaged girls versus boys either direction and then four would be the same thing that by Churkin wilshire we created another opportunity for grant you that have more access currently without lights they have access part at least when we have itself and then followed by the yeah I would add this you know I've been in this process since the very beginning and at the very beginning when we the guy recommended a softball field because we didn't have one on-site walk laborers are walking into a little shirt every day and it's about a mile away and the boys that play on-site which we don't own the whole baseball field either we only actually have a bit of our guns the other path so with the constraint sight 10 acres and no land of our own put it on there was maybe that we could share a field with the park and then after all the investigation and all that there's been some complications but the other issue we have is the bowl the facilities at Grant are complicated and not great so I think that's something to
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be considered and we have no football stadium bleachers we have no concession stand no press spots no restrooms on that site anywhere and not in the plans even in the remodel so I think all of that needs to be factored in and I feel like as a principal it's been difficult to kind of maneuver through these facility things because it's not PBS property and we haven't had access to I mean just recently met sort of second yeah at the meeting and we got to finally talk and get their perspective on these fields and where they should be located so it's very complicated and I don't think it's as simple as should you have a field or not I think definitely we need softball fields but we also have this bowl situation where 2,500 or 3,000 people show up for a football game you have no snow way to make that site secure or to see who's in who's out you know follow the back no back back or anything like that so and there would have to be some definite improvements to the bowl it allows softball to play there but maybe it's a bigger project than just let's put softball lines out and put them on the field it's got to be there's some safety issues there's football something when the ball goes in that's exposed their practices going on at the same time they played there all season and is they're well versed in all the things that issues and safety issues that could come up out there so it's not just a matter of field I would I would ask what should I have to always think Oh fair in addition I I do think that whatever comes under this person sitting first apply for my life because he can let me do when it gets dark in the falkland isn't found like density to school that you're down at four o'clock there's no luck there's no likes and then to be able to have additional game time weather is in this frame having baseball softball at the same time whichever way even if you put them both on the upper go to their or down on the pole just the ability to have track tractors no later a softball in the bowl or baseball game where you have a football game where you not to get out of school early today that will hold football contest because if it starts at five o'clock and by the way you can get a football game in is if you start at three and who gets out it three to the team so you're under double back another thing I say they've actually have to office to these that have what I would call Friday Night Lights and Marshall that opportunity to have the whole student body and their community come out and experience it whether normal I see kids get some experiments and we have opportunity to give the crack community that we should explore that nice have mental strategic planning with arts partners that make sure to figure out how do we make the best use of shared resources that's something but I personally just option to just and on the grant track team way back swing the javelins flying and unless my son was a pole vaulter I don't get options - yeah when it shot put and discus things like that basis I don't you have done that somehow at the same time yeah it's the same season so what happened this year is weren't so we're not at the grant sites or attractiveness at Marshall so we utilize those two softball fields in the grant Bowl but there were Benson was there and there were some youth programs that were also there at the same time so the issue was not about them throwing javelins but those people also being hit by foul balls and those people going on to the field where the softball game is going on because there's no fencing program keeping people out of the game but they did play all of their games there this year and practice their ball but if we had lights I think the idea would be that we would stagger those practices and games so then we wouldn't have traction softball going on at the same time right if that was if that was the option that yeah we have to have lights to make it work
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I just got conference that having had my kids play baseball the track and on Bowl I just think it's just the density I think we have an opportunity disgust me there's a new Parks Commissioner who actually the Grant Bowl was improved during his tenure Commissioner fish and I think there's opportunity to sort of fund a lot whole bunch of these projects potentially whether it's providing for Gabriel for Lincoln or just a lot of these projects I think there's parts s plan we have an interesting improvements there's some great constituencies make sense my big question about Wilshire is PBS has a long history since the title mine is whenever somebody has to move off site it's always big troubles programs and having been for four years in high school always through the job site that people are always the off-site program I've just be concerned about not all these projects so who gets moved off-site it's the state the boys use that all these campus I think you might experience exactly I don't we should be building boys baseball diamonds before we have a girl's softball odd at the school at school can I ask information what's the layout this is stair complex so the girls are at one end and the boys that I ran you can't cope use the facility at the same time and they compensated that by having lights early late you know you can play early or late in a partially overlap practices I mean maybe kind of in feel lonely but you got you can't have puffs off all the baseball tops the directions [Music] yeah I could be the very funny is it the initial layout that has been to several fields where we won we were trying to do the same thing there - who is this whatever get it done with the bomb I mean before the project was completed so I didn't finish this this process is this is challenging not only for the varsity teams but for the JV freshmen the teams as well kids scared all over getting there every which way and that's an issue and they're packed into cars and right around probably not legally and that's that's that's an issue I would love to see it sorted by conferring we actually doing right also where I don't know where are you guys it's in Wilson's they keep real not what soon as I think about Dave I think one of the they they all about the lab they have already been so but I'd love to see just have a spreadsheet where what all the teams are all the sports are just just just baseball softball where's varsity practice and play where's JB across there's a bigger issue there and as part of the partnership because the other the other moving piece Lee is what you said is based on soccer being unpopular that if we built on the Northfield downsize the soccer field there that you would look at taking the baseball field so currently there's a full-size soccer field on the South field that will be only losing with the artificial turf and there's a full-size soccer field on the North Field or how they would feel that would disappear so you make commuters into side to full-size sports fields with the option is your question well sure yeah so if if a softball if option one was taken we would lose the use of that full-size field at the Grant Park so Wilshire fields we would move all that to a little searched on the
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softball field would be available at Wilshire if we put one on a North Loop so put one in these two holes a sports field there's two fields right now we out there I have to look at the whole system with artists I can't just that again and I would add to that so if you're going to take will store weighing warehouse to and sometimes two or three softball teams or two or three baseball teams right then if you're taking a property away if we don't have light there's no way for them to all practice we just started killing the program then you can feel yeah basically I don't know that says find help arts baseball fields out of it for the lower-level teams but it's not an effective level of levels kind of yeah yes I believe third helping with some things it has no size to getting improvements yeah I just six boy on our show if you want we can just build a whole athletic complex that though Adam fight that could accommodate softball baseball multiple soccer player can't Italy maybe the problem and everybody to go there then tunnel I miss you yeah we think about other urban areas that don't have property when you look at suburban schools and they have 50 or 100 acres like the new mountainside high school I mean they have enough plan to do whatever we don't have that here and we have schools various sizes of real estate and it's hard I don't think that it's you know it's not a bad idea to have something on the inside that multiple schools could use that when you maintain it and finish it because the quality of the fields are very different to when you go to school to school and you've got your Lola lower level teams that sometimes are going on the traveling you know but we can I think I think we could provide transportation so anyway that's that's another I know it's probably way too much money but what do we do as an urban school district to accommodate the schools that don't have enough property to to have athletics and we're putting a lot of pressure on the parks they're great partners they work with us but they're also mitigating could be who want to use the parks and you know we could use them from sunup to sundown pretty much just getting our own teams on the field so I don't want us to rush into the solution which complex idea this could have some fulfills it just for whatever which trades that already has a stadium I mean there's it needs turf is this water was just longer-term review looking at options and like it has lighting potential for lighting is work and looking long-term I think personally I think that Whittaker would be a terrible sight to put that because we're going to need what it refers to Madison is going to need that for a business yes mr. Bailey it is agrees with me but I don't I don't I think we need to do 30 oh then that's that aye sir yes okay first one to do a time check yeah so we started a little bit late so we probably go to 340 but so here's my sense after 45 minutes worth of discussion I don't think right here
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and I will fully admit personally visualize interest so I don't know that this forum is the best way to come up with a solution so when you throw it you want board direction okay so how about how about a couple of board members oh and where else to try to nail down some viable solution that can be brought back over they can be brought back to the full board yeah so the timeline that we have now there each of the build-out solutions aren't necessarily going to any of the build-out solutions they're not going to happen a big evolution of our current opening next fall and so the so the interim plan is likely going to have to be in place for the first season but that said so that it's somewhat disconnects the urgency like tomorrow but and good Felicity Turner at that said there would be advantages of doing that now well we've got our design construction team engaged so I would encourage that we don't let time go by on this that we engage that short form of the committee we only have some conceptual ideas definitely more diligence to do that so that would allow us a little more time to pull that together so that we're ready with that information sit down does that make sense it's not that simple sorry to say in addition to a recommendation a sort of a decision making process I think you're gonna have to come up with where the criteria that we can all agree on two of the options that I don't know if there any options are but whatever options are available which ones I'd really like to recommend with that selection criteria developed hand in hand over that or with whoever their members before they don't work with us overarching in whether it's in our more long-term this issue of holy drivers to make people work that I'm afraid of is along fine decisions [Music] anyway I would suggest it or any option that girls going to somewhere else that we build into the cost estimate for possible attention to kind of my lawsuit and then see how that balance though I think we should that's one way to do it I would certainly the effect that I I think she will often it's kind of like we did the best we could and then it that are off site so I think there should be it was all okay oh I was gonna say that would be extremely helpful if at least we can get the committee members that are going to help us commit it to tonight's or today so that we could start scheduling [Music] I don't I swear less
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that's why we're here this is kind of the idea right this is very good luck the monster of how this process is all options are extremely difficult so they have come that came out exactly again no clear-cut direction per se it wasn't any home in option three the only there was some attraction there just because it gave somewhat of an immediate solution because that was in essence no extra cost to outside the bond that small chain of the current budget obviously that has extreme challenges administrative Lee trying to administrative feel our seasons that are offsetting on-site that said you know there was coming into it there was strong preference for option one and then walking away there was not so much of a strong preference of recognizing a lot of challenges that happen to have their own options over again there wasn't really clear option clear one of these four options [Music] yes I'm just as pathetic never we cheered when yes necklace yeah and our partner is concerned about option one as well so that their thing is about option one in which the person it brings for those challenges present options and that's the that's my playing soccer game Marshall on site with the school all the set intensive care that was huge morning Freddie okay so how do we do this small committee I think I'd rather read in the small committee of the establish a time for a marker out yeah if it works out in our counters I'd like to set the time frame moving with in the small committee in the next I'm giving a surprise because I know everyone's schedule is tight okay so okay so so I guess the the charge of this will be in love with criterion yet existing options it yeah by the way there is what I know about my July before okay so you're envious and then I I would ask that you look not only in the four options that have already been identified but stop losing outside it's not really looking at crazy ideas okay so but bringing the you know feet he has creative education this you know no it doesn't sound to me like maybe of these are optimism so is senior gives there's something else on the actually
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lasers good let me let me just say that a relatively small my neighborhood really held up asking our electrolytes like the city we got a great I mean I'm hearing that there's movement we just have to break yeah so yeah we do our stuff we'll be confirming the [Music] but while the team has set up Harold dudas kind of overview dose and level settings my topic is Lincoln High School a master plan to kind of go back in time a little bit the Master Plan process that even have gone through is the same process that our nation has gone through and what that looks like at $10 worth of level is taking things like several documents of these that we could hear the adoptive inspector the district's design guidelines and other inputs that we received from stakeholders that are both internal and external to the district along with things like site constraints that we have the project budget the project schedule and taking all of those components and put it into one pieceof master plan document so that's that's the end of that we are working when that process looks like graphically this is part of your packing here what this is the spirit every one of our projects has a series of plans but this is identified most of them not all of the stakeholders works with the receive information including these with brew the master planning the design and the construction grants of the project so the master plan really is a reflection of the feedback that have been received by the team that hopefully also achieves the goals of the district so it's not so much the team making decision that's really receiving feedback the trend put that into one so that is what the master plan process is this has been going on since actually looking today since late 2015 so it's been going on for number of years hundreds of meeting you talk about what are some options afternoon Chris win so understand our first day we will give you an update on the master plan the program boss won't answer any questions that you have in your packet primarily we want to clarify what the pathway in response to many conversations doesn't have to ask you for so this presentation is implanted clarification also in your board packet there's an executive summary that goes into probably a great detail I wanted to
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highlight some those as opening to our communication we established the new engines study remover years ago that full replacement is most cost effective way to get the new domestic program and to meet your standards we studied numerous modernization and options and they proved I know that was a question some of you had hopefully [Music] different still hold yes absolutely escalation relates to construction materials paper in some cases the latest where students off-site to marshal its remoter site actually the laser press collation are fighting because Russia will be occupied this we have a number of distinct challenges on this site there is fictional plan we have a number of utility challenges on the sites they're going to say we can't build sites really for industries the size and the apocrypha just like every other school that's come before you there wasn't even a cost estimate is based on meeting the design standards that can just programming in technical stages what type of roof and all the good stuff that really meeting those there's the schedule of scheduled opening in the fall of 2022 is still achievable but in order to achieve that we need decision there some stage will change this from the master toilet [Music] there's substantial changes to the program at this time you're fully aware the master plan and pleasures are not in alignment we have several cost reduction options that we talked about today but we do know that and we appreciate that you desire equity and parity between facilities and the high school level in spite of that the steering committee took a hard look at two pretty big productions ten percent seven percent and you didn't recommend moving forward with either one of those because referred you expressed your concern about having facilities [Music] so this is where we are now we have our new building on the west side of the site that will be constructed while students are still in session on the east side of the site when construction is complete they move over that building has taken down the track this is Sammy et working from the freeway our front doors located right here on the 17th and salmon the tall portion of the building which has classrooms Moses and all the columns within the building that line up and small spaces they're all stacked on top of each other and the big spaces like the June theater in the Commons that long stands business on top very practical diagram to achieve a structural simplest a new organization and who's using cost-effective construction techniques that of track and field it practiced with proposing up like a 1/3 size practice field and turf in this location here are grandstands that covers some staff parking below this wall support building for tickets and concessions and eventually some restrooms the student Plaza and loading up at this side back here there are two
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major utility easements the movement site one on 1716 - there's still in negotiation or some discussions with PBOT that's the Bureau of Transportation about pedestrian access one of our guiding principles has been to achieve universal design strategies we don't you guys haven't given the slideshow okay all right but if there's something in the pack that you want to refer to we cannot sing on here we have that slide deck as well episode it's really we credit edit down the information to be a little bit work there so the site will be designed for access wherever possible slipping landscape to the front door everything's would be accessible and welcoming special ladies we'd be located we believe on the ground floor country that's one that one position the challenge there we assemble some guidelines may or may not consume exactly active useful salmon so this condition their concern usually that put life aside what's inside the integral and I think there are some design strategies that we can pour way that hopefully success by a design question that also allows that outer space we need there this is the first time the Commission to SVA it's also the first time and while the things like life skills and those sort of higher these spaces we have the ground floor learning resource classrooms would be the students we're not creating a stable and self-contained but ample elevators fall levels and we're going to have accessible engine inclusive rest rooms throughout the building on every floor and that carries over to things like showers and respirators so this is a slightly different version of us in your path and you assume you've located the life skills rooms here close to the front floor yeah also we should note that the prizefight about universal designs is not right aspect that says we're hoping to get some of this turnout space just to walk you around the plan clockwise our entry our Commons building has a four yard ring related to the center things like food service and billing support back up to the loading dock for easy access we're looking at performing arts and team parent and health clinic spaces along 18 and the city is requiring us to [Music] thinking that see a lot of Tiffany they invited up on the second floor we're looking at a combination of the admin and counseling staff over the first floor counseling upper level calmness our gymnasium primarily lives on the second floor as the sperm is I mean balcony because we have such little sight to see and then more instructional space so one change here on the third
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floor is there some additional information about the auxilary gym which overlooks the main gym and our master plan proposes to rent a track at the absolutely treatment level and the reason we're proposing that is an auxiliary exam requires three means we've got one over here and one over here and we've got a stair over here that we need to get to so essentially to meet Billy Dee's breasts army we have to build it seems to us like opportunity well we would be remiss however it's a nice to have it's not anything we need to have is the other half of your in track to be alternate we you mean after filling is complete yes but definitely that higher cost then I'm doing it during this Junction yes this is our typical academic floor floors four through seven which have a fairly repetitive organization of instructional spaces facing the north and south before with stairs and bathrooms in the middle flex spaces on the end and prominent stairs on the outside corners courage used by students we visited several schools on the East Coast there eight nine ten twelve stories fairly common East Mississippi to have moved my mom went to Stuyvesant High School 21 story high school really talking yet there is a request on the table believe us from the community but there may be some requests from the teaching and learning side as well or additional space it's not in the aspect that's a construction CTE completed shop the top space so that's not currently in the estimate when it was decided that that was a piece that wanted to be added on top of the ffs we believe would going back in this zone right here on the ground floor ORS near the loading dock but it would displace that piece of program coming down into a basement so we do have make a little bigger to accommodate that particular question has been posed what are you wanting to give up also every show Lincoln's CTE spaces such as classrooms that was part of the bag this is a fairly late breaking I understand this is that at the instructional level there is interesting had another secret rapidly construction we just have enough time to process that in fact it's wanted and there's a trade-off this rebounds back to the we ought to be making sure that every high school if you had CTE there was something for hands on some big profits or entrepreneurial if it's something for kids want to go to hell number six basic interest areas so I mean we I can share this have decimal companies this is an updated CTE matrix that you probably seen versions of this is the most recent one that I've seen and it it does show to add maybe late and I eat through but I love some opportunities to talk about CTE space and because virtually some stores right so some cutting into it around the country is caffeine right now its retail space partnerships with retail for students to have experiences for example
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Nike or I'm at Gap does a partnership with the National in high school I'm gonna be a restaurant French to the culinary program which kits being able to actual counts and restaurant space again we're talking with them yep ready one game Jeff rates credit baking for Sony Vaio just an opportunity for so we started with business and culinary arts and the film a our customers actually in the Nutrition Services kitchen it has been up and running for four years but we also just took another classroom and turned that into a product design and they have welding materials so they will be building things and that was you know much as we can do is to take a question right now we are advocating for other maker spaces a robotics program is really when he's driving they're building things with their hands but they're also using technology I would say that the very large big-box expensive thing should not be at every school because they're not affordable rates to be in a designated school and students should go to access them but the other things that are able to be in maker spaces and comprehensive high schools not obvious to them this should be and that's what we're advocating to expand so the way that a tech spec set up is granted there wasn't I think of the sugar there wasn't a district or away on CTE and like here's the point of view like the types that you'll have to have and so that just got billing and Lincoln chose whatever takes choice but then if something gets swapped out that funds any added something else is going to go which is it baby additive and that's my understanding of how the edge types work so if the other schools are adding CTB's basis and they can find the district says it's maybe good to clarification the aspects which right there's a flexibility to build equipment and the part of our you know method to control pause we've maintained the basement putting aside for pleasure constraints I mean if you're planning a crowd but then there's a certain amount of flexibility and not necessarily a tree so that's we're in a very constrained budget right now so I'm totally the disease got out of hand so many different kinds of hands-on and we are in a constrained environment so I guess I met Mike perfected sort of the equity with all the schools so whether school the Franklin at their additional space but what's at the budget and then you know ideally what that mix is and you're just right in time to help influence of this discussion and going forward but it seems like to make it additive but to me the equity lens would be on the program itself and not on the facilities and so we look at the programs we say we think we know that we want to be able to bakkali this construction program which does require a slightly different dedicated space that may be your point something back from a business program or some of these other CT classes that just device ordinary classroom space it should be the program should drive the questions right and I think that that's along that way if I want to make the business program really robust maybe it looks like building out the business program into like a hands-on credit union storefront or retail storefront something along those lines with the retail or instead of and we're taking away from the existing going to add a construction investment but just looking at how to enhance the programming that's on the campus yeah and nearby as we looked at the nearby storefronts pop up spaces but the city has been the primary barrier in terms of not zoned for educational use and so as we continue to collaborate with the city partner
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so it comes from the school site and from across and just our staff well it's kind of both from district CTE which is why I was showing them you know that this is this is a district document so showing up in in this light blue this was a request for equity in the types of programming is my understanding that stem from conversations that acuteness I don't this I don't think that this is a district saying this has to be added to it's called relief from talking about the industry and local industry needs and when you see the cost of escalating hundreds of millions of dollars because there's not enough labor in construction project managers and construction management it was a natural conversation that emerged also with equity you know where we put in our construction and trades because we're putting them in one part of town we've many kids are from low-income areas or other historically underserved and we're not putting them on you know in neighborhoods where that's not the perception you know are we creating the tracks based on neighborhoods so it's part of our marketing conversations part about what the industry needs right now important and then linking it to a business management as well which we already have a construction management project was a great opportunity to use our partners will be on site building the host interns by the way a recent state studies increasing construction costs weren't exactly flowing into higher just russian fucker's and then we don't want them just in one for accountants you should press a couple of questions here appreciate the note well it's the blue space that's just fun about that the en label through space in this destroying this boot this is at testing rooms and ample storage top on that horse feed stage side okay and where is the access for the theater the theater would be actually entering off of the Commons okay thank you okay and you said that this was a construction type space so yes what what's underneath that red ball there is the word call supports that's the building storage some buildings if you did not have construction cpp space that we had to put in that's what could not be there as this were thinking about adding this potentially work wants to go before some of those things I've got that you'd be wrong presentation we have some basement space celebrating their leaders there's three things you can tell us you to tell us that's not to dis basically for you fellas let's do it but trade off something else in the program where you tell us let's do it range of things that we need here for you the next slide and your in your packet is a site plan that really doesn't climb out so it's just kind of a key milestone so we've highlighted the current phase or it's schematic design right now we're still on track to start construction in the spring 2220 and visibility of 2022 that following the year after that everyone's had a busy summer and conversations with you and as we talked
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about earlier you the end of August move time that need a decision that Detective the schedule and I think it's a good reminder that in this environment of highest elation that every month and you guys not alone we work at a lot of districts we have the same meeting that every district so the next slide next piece in your packet is a program summary by Department area which I think a lot of us appreciate in detail when backed off we came up with a higher level summary and Eric you want actually yeah I just I think there's been a little confusion on sort of the direction that we have as far as how they implement the ad specs on the projects and the there's a statement there but it's just taken directly from the specs I just wanted to read this one careful quick because I think it helps capture really the intent behind what level do and this is about the the area program as far as the square footage area program of comprehensive high school it says while the area program identifies the number and size of required spaces these numbers will and should be adapted to meet site-specific building and site constraints as well as program needs the area program is meant to provide district-wide guidance to design teams for the delivery of high school curriculum as should be seen as a point of departure for design teams working on the BART station workplace management of comprehensive high schools it is expected that room sizes adjacencies and layout will vary depending on the constraints of existing buildings so there's some talk about the existing buildings but then also just how we've worked to to develop a little program at each site based on this so we're proposing a series of adjustments to expect program we work really closely with d'Agata steering committee and the staff on-site point we're feeling positive about the rule this slide is not in an elaborate version or a half page here to your point before about trade-offs in the program one one really effective way to control this histogram that was pretty early on there wherever a program needed more space our goal was to find it from somewhere else so there's a series of trade-offs here that's basically net a lien is no additional space above that it's there that's been our approach to progress is defined all said anything that was asked for with something that was calling to clarify people when you say mediately aspect the expect minimum requirements that are the verbs basis of optional spaces right so the FF is actually a range it's not a single number and the minimum is two hundred and one thousand square feet hasn't changed and then there's options that go all the way up to three hundred thirty seven thousand so what we're proposing for Lincoln is to nine thousand really quite close to minimum we explain that no like net area is extraordinarily close to the net area we have the added burden of the high-rise whole building nope I'm straight so on that last slide what are you wanting it netting 206 oh you mean what it uses oh okay no bottom
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line our subscribe right then obviously there is a duo 16 ok expect me to this 206-6986 just to clarify the places where you potentially could have met reductions like the computer labs I think in fact we're talking about Ed specs and people said like people have to keep the old for the style window then instead of taking that is actually in the might get some cost savings in the project that space is now then you select some other ways that okay we have some specialized general I'm looking at page 32 there's a computer lab and like one of the things I know the early conversations about where are we going to get some cost savings it was like computer labs that we used to have but just be clear like on page 28 when it's one less computer lab and instead of taking that as a saving understand that's correct and those things that are something else [Music] a lot of it is the sort of programs that exist now over to take a computer lab for example we have a thousand square feet of additional seating space we all set and so that thousand square feet is needed to serve culinary arts tonic design and for since it exists now but we're not to make that adjustment I think the question that you guys would be which CTE program do you want to take out pretty late that's the kind of acuity also trying to balance the curriculum needs that they can as they exist right today whereas they were discussing these are true fun none of these make sense [Music] okay so I probably want to read through these pretty quickly because there's screw CDs amount of detail let me read it and have questions what happened come back today what we've done is basically on a room-by-room basis we've highlighted the things that have gotten a little bit bigger and so it's things like heading the classroom and putting in additional science lab going from 11 to 12 science labs but again we're trying to add these things you know some project rooms etc I don't want to sort of read through each one unless you want to come back and talk about one in specific so the news the changes the visual arts games work wire some minor piece of theater there's there is a compelling need for that's in addition to the immediately through the weather schools you combining those with one space we think that they use pattern Lincoln pretty intense the Buffalo so we're not quite sure after looking at the schedule and thinking towards us very easily these things fast but what you're seeing about leaking oh yeah just kind of going through these quickly because some of the justice we made downwards so making the classrooms a little smaller maybe glass a little bit smaller but he has more efficient houses with teacher planning areas taking a reduced options for you senator yes bet for a new building has have smaller new center I think we intend to
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show with these next two diagrams is here's a pie chart over a donut chart it is and it shows by Department the relevant area that needs within the building dedicated to each one and so you know specifics I have important I think what's important Paris between those of the department said that has been described in the spec and then these are the partners that we and so there's like you know look around and maybe there's a one or two percent change between departments but by and large what we're proposing is spillover is really close to the aspect and always a long list of really important adjustments they're relatively bland so this is a difference remarkable with the proportions artifact so close there's looking I appreciate this team this way just makes it yes thanks here's another new slide l didn't see the version of this map this is all the high schools that are modernized for Babs be modernized and this is the square footage for each one so you can see a Benson at 368 Madison at 298 granted to 92-89 Franklin and then Roosevelt it's actually a smaller aspect 1350 that's why that has a bit smaller but you see even with our adjustments and really the program Lincoln we're kind of in the middle of the pack in terms of size so that's been part of that effort trade-offs program that's what this one's in your packet this is need to ask diagram from the expec and the general describes you know various modes of organization and capacity that flows from that general you use every classroom proper time and put as many kids as we could 21 so we didn't really as we've done the capacity analysis Lincoln for Solon that seventeen hundred to maybe twenty one to twenty two hundred capacities that is a hair higher than general is the same capacity we're not working on medicine and all of the details on item but if it follows the sj-o the the Madison capacity so know what let's show there in the packet is this is straight out of the inspect so when we say 1700 there's no math number that comes out to exactly 1700 it's just it's this range so this is the definition of 1700 so Lincoln is sure that there's a range of detail so originally to convene the city of thought the branding guidelines during our master penalty so there were a number of things after the 90s that were
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added to their design for example requirements is not something that anyone relate it's something that's been at the previous board meeting we've provided the board with the historical tracking from our January 2017 estimate briefed on up until today which showed some of those jurisdictional changes that increase or Falls understand this whole issue of the is to have on one sheet this sheet but there's a problem with a peasant the estimates here but to do the estimates from pre-referral referral February's and the issue so you can see over times I think that way the community can see which of the categories have changed materially but this the cost estimation and how do they go from there then you have it really yeah we can do that we do have another document after Lincoln that does it globally at a higher level but we can do it at this level as well that way there may be like of all these line items by little change or maybe they've all changed and then you can see how they changed over time and how much and I think it will be useful to answering the question like how did this happen and maybe what seems reasonable at first level they that is do a little to bring a static we can do so this is what we call these are the see the construction specifications at the construction division so we can go by project I mean see so if we've missed the August 28 deadline we're looking at adding another year right well another year of construction okay so whatever whatever changes we're gonna ask for whatever work we're gonna ask for it's gonna it's going to net out a little less than ten million dollars because otherwise we're all we're doing is delaying this fast enough and just providing an invisibility to the community about what's happened over time so definitely unequal categories okay my question is can you do that woman's do this you can do for next week's forum link and my only hesitation is we have different professional cost estimators but sometimes they do their estimates in different formats so that's why only hesitation is going back to them looking at internet safe oh now it's that she was doing for each correct yes but it's not the same level of progression of going back by project and showing a progression over time so she is she has pulled out information and ranges by CSI division for France and Roosevelt and Franklin happy quiescent I'm not a professional over time because the thing about the progression over time is that and she there justice when she started BAC is that the escalation is not the same in each category that's part of what they're trying to get to right like some some types of materials you're seeing 30% more than or last year or others it's learned a little about it as well I just think 100 any money my boy relevant and say yeah that makes sense but it's not on one document when you artists the question of what happened
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you can do something like that also the size and the shape of the buildings have changed over time so looking back two years we can give you cost but it's spot could be meaningless data like we can do it but it might not be like a smoking gun of what you're I'm not looking for a smoking gun because I don't think there's a person you know that made a cost estimating mistake especially this is like informing the process going forward but we don't understand how these things even evolve over time how we're going to fix it next time so you know footnote if there's a building change but I mean otherwise it's like well we don't know we're gonna go ahead the answers yes reproduce the data it may have some caps to it and it's not going to be no matter what's not gonna be told I want the Apple there's going to be some things in there we just yeah that's how it's gonna stay because the information presented before the last meeting you know you have the basis go to the building and then there was the additional scope geotechnical investigation is based on that youto changes and things like that so just having the summaries of the estimates we do need help but notes because it isn't exactly apples to apples and just look at the metal its category and see what also relates to the pilots that are dead I just wanna do a time check please 2505 25 minutes to prep yourself what do we need to do in order oh there I'll take a shot at that so what the information here is the master plan as it's been the input that this team has received working with all the different stages if there is direction or discussion to go a different way than this and that's why we pulled out so much detail is the consideration that there might be specific direction do not construct that soap or do add that snowman what we need is a clear direction is this the right plan is it not there's something that before it simply wants that cream or want something investigative grade back and as though the multi-year effort has product to a distance in time with all the money and don't [Music] [Music] [Music] you can see the soft boss are pretty much in line with the other projects in terms of a percentages for furniture we are reserved just some money for some temporary facilities probably at aesthetic feels like there's a 10% fee on top of that and that's that's how we get to the 242 million we change there are other things that are not included into this price facility speaks with love and elevators up to their tall roof we haven't included that yet if you direct them to include that that's an additional hundred thirty thousand there's the potential to use the water retainer Creek building with State magazine so there's an initial cost of that around 300 grand
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in the middle of our master planning process the district issued some the new guidelines around the theater design so the theater that's included in this design that's what we call it tension grid and a shorter stage we do be reflective in lots of high schools the aspect that just enough for theaters as a taller stage so if we were to implement the taller stage that would that's the whole flight tower and then the additional programs this is the construction CTE primarily as an additional three to four billion dollars and then there's there's still this supposed to be the interest or they can't indicated wrestling room you sort of tried to hold that conversation that day the Restless be here probably on June 28th to speak their mind but somewhere in the three to four million dollars [Music] in issue those are decisions that are beyond question so this the 242 compared with 187 was the published so that okay so you detail some clear different service there's gonna be more expensive basic per square foot as towards in the cities now the soil insulation there's also a factor around stress space anything else you smell the story of why it's mr. climbing is a big party just that would be helpful as well okay I think you know that's my greatest concern to be - just delaying it longer we started I think in 2015 to be ready for them to ever bond and we were ready to go and make for summer work and told you somewhere - that would have been 2017 with summer and now it's 2018 the cost of only escalated and a year ago we were in a meeting with Jerry Vincent came and said well it actually be good to hold off because I think we won't compete against ourselves the cost of a gallon and it hasn't the true the cost of just escalated and escalated 2015 preparation so just I'm really worried about that no wait so as soon as they've ever passed and everyone else that's work so flipside Terrell celinda maybe bring us into overall recession so some additional information have you guys know that the number of things during this dance there's no finding of choices we met were babies early personality 9 scooters all eventually the building was shorter and a little bit wider it's actually easier to move through but also saves these money we've described some of the things we remove your management process to try not to do as unless they're things that offset it number of requests from really strong community groups about tennis and covered grandstands etc that we've push back on and not in submitted we push back on to city of experiments that state billions of dollars one was
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initially the city guidelines and not allowed to eat parking close parking garages around the district got involved in that and through advocacy before the City Council got an exception for the site quite a bit of money and we also got an exception from what are called the super block requirements which has a number of site design site specific elements clauses and furniture things like that respect on which also will save some money we talked a little bit about the theater design that's currently in the master plan and then after our initial look at the site veteran raises the level of the track up several feet to minimize the amount of text Turk will taking off the site its minimize the height of walls so we'll continue to kind of fine tune so in terms of options for reducing costs we've bundled them into three patches a is the current national plan that's why big mobility is and that like repeal this is so say something about these cost estimates relative to where things are going to be when we get a contractor off war and starts actually you know negotiate began to howl howl comfortable came to be at 50% you know there's a reason for attention about the some of the level detail that we provide so on pages 38 and 39 information about and what we want to show there is no one has to first of all know exactly what this does outline what the thinking is how we got to that number so worth two hundred forty two million dollars you can see here's the number of runs professional tapas dollars and you can see in that bottom section there are some of the communities that are included in the park assessment they so does IQ kind of see as cmgc intensity as market volatility or what we want to do is be really transparent and clear on these are all different ways of managing race so we're showing you what we think is the appropriate way to manage risk that said different professionals could vary on that but this is what we think is appropriate based on the information we have on the next page where you see the soft cost and there's other information and horses contingency that's the project that's where additional risk management is being held so outside the whole cost is reduced these that will like the Jesus we to redesign or as a part of contractors for the project has additional funds that can be put for whatever has about so that's how our managing risks we're just trying to be real clear and transparent about it because in the future if something is different or something is dramatically different we won't be able to point back and say well that's what we assume is a time and that time it will is reasonable maybe something to change what's this square foot pasta this is that base up engine 22
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[Music] yeah it's gonna be lower because it's gonna be just right around 100 million I'm not but this is what was put forward at the time was that Franklin came in at 294 Bobby came in at 262 Roseville came in at 277 Lincoln was projected budgeted for at 362 so what's missing for that admissions the time frame that's above paddock 11 finds been 14 years ago to me a table for their bigger just to meet the question is how much does that time credit cost how much like this difference can be attributes pacifically just to the market forces and escalation and it is not the whole enchilada and what else is escalating costs all of our functions that makes sense and just so you're probably all that did an exercise grand cost Pacific Command just escalating grandpa's it was like in January February and I looked at where Madison was at that time compared to Franklin and grant put it in a cost per square foot and escalated it and at that time they were all within a five million dollar range like when I did that exercise so that's where I was like looking at my cost compared to the other two and I was like well okay I guess that's in the right type you know that's in the right zone once you apply ask Alicia what was the initial Lincoln I know I know stuff happened after that they're just the Holocaust estimate from January 2017 was 124 wait that's so 124 which compares with whatever 2022 so 124 and that's again we captured that in the last meeting so that 1:24 design no we're not no when you look at first numbers and due diligence comes with raw number with no escalation well our initial master plan master plan was a master plan members so I'm asking well because of time anywhere 27 we were
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carrying escalation outside of the estimators so that's why it's difficult to take go back to take that estimate in line though it's this one it's not quite yes yeah right judgments to like you read an article and we'll talk about dollars per square foot of a project and then my question is the articles oh right anything and yeah everybody's comparing that stuff with oh it's the same so too late what you use I would say here's our sp and that's what I will talk about Katie that's what I would tell the public and say we know construction and we've got a contingency okay [Music] don't get fancy way to tell I know using what they've done over $300 that was this apples so all these combination of this well and also looking at that design contingency that 10% that that is there because at the level and so there's a certain amount that the estimator just doesn't have we've got yet it's trap 3:40 so that that bad right information but we can't we're not helping already I for all using the same three we did not really our office for reducing pauses between petrol and put those in the kind of three bundles of which you take any mask we said let's look at the leading social education centers unlisted option we could look at the choir room require practice room combined investment yes
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same items we've just applied something this episode's finishes so that's episode 1 and velocity football news you might say look at the wider range we said well what if we made it these are things like the running track these are all pretty drastic cuts but if you were to say prioritize for curriculum computer took everything on there that's another language in the in dollars is that 2.77 we do come up with specific [Music] sighs we have and then the third option is quality we need a lead requirement pregnancy moving attention class okay those are the kind of things does this one department Cosmo Part D of Jetson peek out more health class room and if that space is go away really yeah especially like building buildings so what is asking for within that transport every space is all the time we have 700 and every state and you talk about a running track I mean I didn't see it in Oregon special access but we're not eating the athletic aspects so the district the ball field eighty-six tennis a baseball or softball diamond football field - or third of the soccer field no battlefield so when you put the track we're gonna pay for half of any traveling so I think
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it was for the other half of the red dress you now get nowhere near the inspect run selector already talked about take that gets back and let's see what within our tower it to think vertically in this project different for Portland's but not different for Australia or New York you could get closer to meeting that expects of us going over the square footage but you have to think what once in a hundred years to ask ourselves to be flexibly not for more space 100 the minimum had spent not more space be flexibly on how you chop up that space different office they think that I wasn't using you exercise if you recall you know these spaces were all created less area that's several million dollars which trading it possibly the obsessed 8:4 that would be a lot more than the 1 million dollars within the doors attract attention oh so we're still trying [Music] that's what told community we're going to try it that's crap a lot everything and I think and broader community about how to be managed be really careful about [Music] Oh [Music] it talks about I forgot what I requested about Oh Karina not at all
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question sorry so this was in response to question and my responses with the Budget Office was difficult what are some of this information is justified program I know that it has been responsible for a specific part of what we have how many students do we have any different so we have 16 plus at Roosevelt when you say slots TV that what is this correctly how many students we are serving and your first four or so yes and we so what we have is we have 16 slots at Roosevelt we have a spots at Madison eight at Grant and we had the reason that this says eight slots at Franklin on the top I clarified that this afternoon is that the second classroom that Franklin was not ready all year and so that finished during the year so when we go into this next year we will have two classrooms so they would have 16 slots available for $15 that's the children insurance what I'm asking like so is saying a lot of law they all filled with tips a lot of abilities which we don't have so some of them are some of them are and I apologize that teen parent vice principal is not available to be there today but some of them were when I asked that exact question who are the kids some of them were Cleveland students some of them worked out these works no in that that are attending Franklin transfer last year so so part of what we have is we have a dump we don't have child first facilities at all of our schools and so we also work with where is how do you meet the needs of students that have need for child care that don't have a family resource that don't that that are in need of child care and so some of them are students from other schools hopefully more hopefully closer and bucks in the mean come with geography one of the things you'll see in bold though is when we looked at the chief teen parents by the zip code there's 2016 parents it's in bold know that within the Franklin's that put them away there twice that's it means someone how are some of them probably are not at school it means a move over others their schools it means some of them have a family thankfully a family that cared for their kids when they're in school but they're also at we have a number of students the majority of our team parents are actually in alternative schools and so part of what we're trying to do as we know people have followed state state and the national trends wait the number one barrier to high school graduation is access to child care and so we have when we looked into that research think about coming out and get Tier one strategy around how do you provide access to child care so we can keep students in their comprehensives in their neighborhood schools and provide that and provide that service for them so that's where we are one of the other things I want to just say really quickly and I want to let folks ask me questions I don't have to the sheriff but I want to say that part of what we do have done with teen current child care and seeing their services his work relief bomb deeply what the state was Salem and so it was previously it was ODU but it was a war Hawk or an apartment employment had the chapter a vision and then within the last year the contract has moved over to DHS and so we actually have a reimbursement grant also and the criteria and the stipulations for the reimbursement grant or that they had to be served on site so it was either work force workers to have child Care's on site then they put in apply for reimbursement from Salem from the state or if 2012 education is the main secondary schools go to fly on site so I
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just wanted to say two numbers and that is that there is a reimbursement contract other than 291,000 for the upcoming year and then there is their contacts there is that there are zero people employees but have heard that are utilizing tutoring services childcare is on confused there's 2016 parents this aggregated chart shows one for students because they were just choosing somewhere else they're choosing somewhere else they might not attend strength on high school they're choosing somewhere else or they have family other kids from other schools like for instance if it was fun to be up here and we had I don't know whose food ones time there's just as an example but if not my helium chair up there at the end hopefully one student one thing again to child care we turn region feels catering to child every whether graduate if I understand say Frank one superior man starts their child in child care and then collection little Alliance building a fight that I would have access to the family would have access to keep that child in their exchange child care and Franklin Logan our our teen parents social school social workers work with that student and family to say what would what would be the best fit for your family situation around case management services so it's fair to say that most of our teen parents are not utilizing so we have more team parents that are not in comprehensive that are served in alternative schools that are certain conferences and so with regard to that we are we are always continuing with our engagement or to try to get our team turned into back into school and into stable childcare resources whether that's family or whether that's with a provider but who is guess who's going to be stable as a provider and so there are just a lot of families who start and first students who start and say I think I can make it work a little and my family and then sometimes six months later and I'm on Twitter that actually doesn't happen and then in chapter you want to help those students battle childcare option as close to their homes as possible so we need to do that somebody surprised that this is like last year there was a lot of variation December in January and that's why I've asked about that but before I understood that the second childcare space was not completed until towards the end of this year as far as a moment the other thing I want to say is there's some alignment here that talks about community and there are some questions about that one of the things that we negotiated when we negotiated with Albina Early Head Start is that when our students been working towards college and career readiness for all of our students when our students graduate from Franklin childcare or Madison when are when their parents graduate from high school our students are PPS graduates go to the front of the line all of our city costs for 8 for all 8 such luck that we negotiated with Ron Fineman and today because what we want to do is one for votes is we want those who just graduated as what is your post-secondary or and/or if you're raising your family and you're important and you're caring for the economic needs of your family how do we can to do that employment and so how do we do that to continue that so through when the little ones go early headstart ends at 36 months and so Bruce of the really get that early education until they transition is sort of up until a formal 34 year old and so that's one of the things too sometimes when we look at who if there's community slots our first option olives is our base are there other PPS grads did they for instance graduate for from Roosevelt but they want to go to PCC southeast campus or
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something like that and so how do we talk to our kids in those processes so if there's community slots our number one hope is for community spots is that they would be PPS graduates making that transition I'm sorry yes graduates people that's between parents so can we say distribution and what questions are do live excess capacity do give me a waitlist or anyone teen parent centers and do we have an access yeah same question but I was going to ask it what is your assessment so by okay so I would love to get all of that information and come back with that I think what we have kind of the passage that we have it has very that variation around parts of town around different areas and different neighborhoods so that in particular would be would be helpful because we're right now looking at Lincoln right yes so one of the things I would just remind people is when we look at the boundaries of Lincoln High School is that we have the downtown area so we have the downtown shelters so we also have our alternative schools that will happen as grades and outside in and so it also just I mean if we're going to get the information that would also be important information for everyone to have a there we are up against it like we don't make decisions and whatever then we can get to these decisions I mean while you're here I want the opportunity to just ask so we've got other strategies for how to serve 15 parents in the district as part of your overall reconnection and getting to graduation on strategy how valuable and necessary do you think these investments like base additional site makes D parent centers are I've been there game shakers you do if you need is a very important part of your reaction I say I'm in college and career started I think for us of the district to really look at all the kids that are in the catchment of any boundary is we have team turns from every touch of some some higher in some in some zip codes that some lower and others if those but we have to city and it is really important to ask I'm confused by this why does the largest program have only half I'm a social worker as opposed to the other kids that have hope so so part of it is going to be where all the pamphlet all the two parents are so that that should be again that's this James happily does that with the program but it's a distribution of one with geography and two by the number of teen parents we cap there was also the reason I added that or that was added was because there was a question about how much FTE is PPS putting at Franklin and I wanted to just be clear that well we have team parents staff on serving SMT s where they have a computer and where they have a phone line every staff has the responsibility of 8/10 schools so nobody has visit one school the conversation that's happening with Franklin which has a solid foot plans they the district said everybody's going to have comment then also frankly got those hundred percent utilization and so we've done a footprint they even though there wasn't a district-wide data shared it was like this is what Franklin's I'm gonna get and it was out in a class like a classroom trade-off versus you know we're gonna additive so I guess my question is just the broader systems question is just across the district what is the data show what we need at all our schools it shouldn't be a
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classroom versus like it was a Franklin conversation so again but badly by Mecca not foreign to us anything at all this but I think we should look one of these numbers think about in the context of what do we actually need system-wide at every school because this isn't a conversation about palliative this is a conversation about in part we're up against a wall times one of the places we could cut and remove because we could use that as a classroom too if if it's not needed but one of the things that was explained to us is and probably to Franklin to it has to have it it's some partner and it must be used for teen parenting whether you have a team that's in your program or not correct the zoop some it's the same conversation as Franklin right but it just wouldn't happen with Franklin it wasn't a district-wide they said whatever it isn't have it and I think it's useful to say look at the data and now say like does everybody rate they do we make the right call okay so these still won't make a decision about whether or not you can eat anything it shows what and I I don't think we're going to be able to do that so I do you want me to like put out a fire on campus I went on the mountain I would just as a starting point for some savings take all these savings when they accept us I know the teen parent Center with an asterisk for more data grand stands the technical standards and a turf de Grasse and I say the trip to grasp just because we can was the first school to have a church so I I think we didn't put it in and they just pay for it anyway this doesn't make any sense specially the amount of utilization you get so I had a conversation and the other day about some of these trade offs and I didn't believe these requirements there's there's some netting here that you can use but you know just to start with like how many of these need to take without having and said oh I think have a few props to illustrate a nice Franklin's own look at what some of the value engineering things that got taken out of their related to security mill locking front door no vegetables ever again to the earth or a system does not have a festival yeah so I mean what I want to do I want to look with all of this the answer is yes but I don't think we have the budget so that's just that's just like that so just to get clarity can say you cut all this stuff on page 41 [Music] let's let's take scrub hold not now I'll say it if you could specify what the savings with each of these things but I just want to remind the master plan and so I did but I mean I'm not so I'm going to do this exercise
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so I don't want to suggest any of these like I'd rather the construction construction program into but at least at least some sense of where the board is and then because you know I saw the prize we need decision by the 28:28 thumbs up thumbs down or else about the decision-making on the twenty-eighth what we are saying to me if we have any significant changes I mean after the 28th I could cause delays but these are really important decisions and and just make sure that we're not rushing some decisions even though time is of the essence and Eric I'm I'm sorry please define significant because the board is going to obsess over that of oh it's step with me out please well so we need the grandstands well let's go it's significant for us we haven't really even drawn it yet so that's not a big change that I've seen before over at this point taking the choir room out significant change be taking the team parent and also you're out basically we can change we have to rework every one you put together the list for the SurveyMonkey it comes with a level one two and three of how hard it would be and also if any any of these reductions change our status relative it would all be reductions I've heard through all the requirements so any deducted space would be the program they're not I be interview rooms that would stand on our cunning miscommunication these are collaborative spaces for all students to use all the times we're really shifting our instruction in all the schools and it was my part of the inspect to have smaller collaborative spaces okay but but they don't add to okay so I mean I I've said this before I mean if it's not because I feel it if it I want to build a building for the next hundred years I don't know if idea is going to be what's not about I be okay then then I think needs to be taken out stuff and you need to tell me directives because you know and same deal with Model UN we there is no opposed to dedicated human it's just all of this is a double size the one way you want to make colors show me outside where everything is well not earn advance at all I don't know how that have to type with up there so it's not just kids have a divider in it so if you don't need it that they can put items like rice and peas right on those programs above minimum recommended that space it's the largest accredits out classroom which is the largest base I'm just saying all of these right here right why are they in that category of programs because the ED specs don't specific wire room for example is a functional space it's not but get the choir room we reduce art space to have that trade grow larger you just think about the tech show we did introduce the premise
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and we have said that's been built another school so we took all the minimums and said we're building fire to wait they may reduce the classroom sizes what you're basically doing is supporting successful programs in the school as well as this was changing including special to be kids so the kids are in the choir room because it's a really successful program instead of being in a different program so I was in school so you I mean I just something like look at you I specialize the space but then there are other specialized spaces than either one of the professor's own okay so we are whale where people have to week connect connect just or whatever the scoring how we're going to set it up and there today but that box right here results in higher operating costs well I hope you talked about is yeah you would say two and a half million I believe you had $100,000 at Petrie's anyone operating costs and that's you just didn't know what that is because this is these generic descriptions don't describe it that's the negotiating session so to have million but what's that you can provide the rough water and thank you to you okay that and and I would like to figure out some parallel process we looked at Madison master plan did the opposite of what we're doing that would be actually with the board added so in fact process fairly significant and so if we are making a policy shift to say you are ready constraints no these high schools below the standards of our educational specifications which are the marching orders that we've given to all of our devices and that's kind of assessment new approach and take that lens back to every project saying we can't meet other expected we're going to let us see comparison some of us won't work with these guys to come up with some sort of instrument it's actually really important to play complex I'm glad [Music] this is a Brendon Martinez memo I want to make a couple of points peer grants clinic was in grossly underutilized because apparently unique among our school clinics the county arbitrarily decided we only accept patients who are on the organ health plan not a lot of kids in the grant cluster on the Oregon Health Plan so that artificially run it down and also right now we are talking with Providence to be the new medical provider for grant when it opens so I for my part I think that a health clinic is an enormous gender equity issue having an enormous economic equity issue and I really do not want to see that crap and I think we've been absolutely fine separation okay alright this is not funny to anybody I get back foot there it is really work to come up with some straight instrument to get get a Segway

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PPS Board of Education, Archive 2018-2019, https://www.pps.net/Page/14001 (accessed: 2022-03-24T00:57:50.174924Z)
PPS Communications, "Board of Education" (YouTube playlist), https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8CC942A46270A16E (accessed: 2023-10-10T04:10:04.879786Z)

2018-08-13 PPS School Board Work Session

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Event 1: PPS Bond Work Session - August 13, 2018

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