2018-05-01 PPS School Board Work Session

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Event 1: Portland Public Schools Board Budget Work Session - May 1, 2018

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yeah so uh to our edging the mentioned to our session today and so with with today's focus is gonna be on so super ten will count overlooked overview on what to expect to see and see themes you'll see in more detail to destroy presentations and then I think I think it's really really valuable at some point in the format but asking the chief instructional sites to walk through their budgets prioritization what's in what's out so rather than here got the finance people hearing about it from people that are this wealth of the strategy in the fall time experience track exciting speeds but good agent okay okay so we're gonna do another work session or no later conversation in various forums additional proposed budget but we wanted to start to do is kinda go over later confer and as we thought about how to format these conversations down a high enough enough of an understanding that's a little bit high level about how we're scoping out the work to try to give some story caveat you know this is a new administration with new leaders we have some of the departments and some still don't have their peers in place so much of what you'll hear them describe is an affirmation of what their essential functions are any more detailed than that would be we get a little bit more nebulous what we're going to focus on today is sort of the academic excited organization it's an organization moving forward proposing [Music] so the school is the instructional support so she's going to describe how they are in the organization and resources if a lot of organized repairs for situating work as you reduce resources into new areas in the new leadership - you're going to hear about that and if there's time we'll talk a little bit of a high level this is where attendance office I've been that question and they're planning the questioning which we're going to be noting today but we may not have all the details you want you want to give you good information we'll take on the other half of the organization the business and operations side experiencing a lot of change in flux itself [Music] so today services over three presentations we provided and - the shortest but what I see is the most important thing for me to do is to ensure alignment across all the work that we do in schools with instruction and the focus so my mission or the mission of the whole division is to develop a coherent and aligned educational system focused on the instructional core the instructional core needs the center where teachers content and students are together in a relationship around marriage that prepares all of them for college careers
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citizenship and political life so the priorities for me would be to develop a relationship where the team culture that intentionally builds trust engage debate is committed to results and holds one another accountable for student success accountability is really about shared accountability we really can't hold ourselves to accountability unless we doing together as a team because there's there's too much to do and we all hold a different part of that we need to develop a practice of systems thinking that models cross departmental work and that doesn't mean just in the departments in our division but across the entire organization we know the intent of everyone in this organization is to help students but in our division we're the ones who actually know how to do that so we have to work with the other departments so they can understand how what they do at any level of any level of detail actually does certain things so that's what we'll do in that part develop an educational system where every student enjoys access to rigorous and relevant learning experiences that prepares each first successful future so this is we've been having these conversations about what are the levels call so that's what this chart is is just showing that high level of in my division I'm the deputy I will have three Chiefs one is the office of school Support the chief of schools who is it who oversees the office of student performance which you hear is referred to as OSP then we have a chief academic officer which is the least II is over the office of teaching and learning which we refer to it as OTL and then the chief of Student Support Services which is the office of student support services with which has longer act act freedom Oh SSS so each of those departments has another layer and actually there's layers within that if you look at the chief of schools they'll be organized into school cohorts and there will be an area assistant superintendent and area director working at it to support each cohort in the office of teaching and learning is where we'll have senior directors directors program administrators and posis who end up doing organizing and doing most of the professional development around teaching learning in the office of student support services it looks much like OTL and that there will be senior directors directors program administrators and businesses so the our division budget is twenty four point five percent of the general fund of one hundred and fifty nine point six million of the 650 million of the whole budget so you hide the actor accurate acronym sure what that word today disc it stands for division of instruction in schools so my part is of our divisions budget is 0.3% its point 1 percent of the general fund announced just essentially my assistant and any resources we've used is between the two of us school performance is twenty two point three percent of the division budget I'm going to show you a slide in a little bit that shows where most of that budget goes and then the general fund is five point up sorry it's five point five percent of the general Christine support services is fifty two point five percent of our nation's budget it's twelve point nine percent of the general fund and teaching and learning is 24.8% the division budget six point eight percent of general fund budget this is this all off my pleasure yes I'm sorry about the silence we are we're putting out the Job Description and post news we have a database for less we're going to be forward to challenging things we're looking to bring on board anywhere from two to four or five any none of their skills that we will be organizing our entire school portfolio into cohorts of students there may be one assistant suits working side by side with the area director that might be as
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assistant superintendent America the two area directors and double coat over the whole point is we know is we perform in school improvement that our school communities our leaders these direct coaching magnets and supervision and so we are looking to bring more an elevated role of assistant superintendent where folks have the assistance support that kind of work is coolest in networking so I can't tell you that there's going to be four co-workers or five boards likely that will be Canaries in the favorites and the tropical system super is an EP high schoolers experience to support multiple pathways that's to be determined of course I will polish in a more specific cohort listing and the organizational chart as we get into active interview mode over the next few starting relationship starting with the jeep you can help inform those decisions our intention is to find the right people with the right skills done and if we don't fight at all right now we will organize in a way to support working together one of the things we also like the assistant superintendent and area directors to do as a team that's really worked repetitive because oftentimes we find in school buildings and I know I experiences myself when I have a brand new assistant principal is oftentimes you get with this slin work that we really don't forget that opportunity how the force works and then when you can move into a principal position you're still pretty three you don't have those experiences so we would like the assistant superintendent and director to work in partnership with what it has more experience and more knowledge developing that as a model for how the school should be working together and that will be part of how we hold them account as well so that you're always thinking about door developing that next person to take your place so we have a lot of strong educators in PBS right now but they're we don't know that they yet have the skill set to move to that next level and yet we know they're good leaders so we put them in that and and then they oftentimes feel like they're starting over or some issues they've never experienced so excited to be able to elevate the role of principal supervisors it's not just brokers in the organization who are trying through relationship to bring strategic interventions and supports to their schools this wants to work in a much more organized and scientific way and so our conversations in that planning forward is how do the these three offices in particular they're going to work and interdepartmental ways to share those day-to-day week-to-week struggles or areas that are in need of greater support by leveraging you know a reduced number of people working more surgically to support schools and so bringing the board and I know it looks like it's missing this from what we saw last week yeah there was a box of your nextgame identity yeah we had I'll talk about that a bit later but I'll just assume every everybody in every layer level at your organization is bringing Ecuadorians we need to be clear about what that actually looks like in practice and that's critical about our policies are enacted and we'll talk about this cos we going to get the presentation and all I'm saying and then it needs to at least have its own distinct nice right so everybody needs that awareness and their practice and our intention is to make sure that leadership and using amor
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represent the demographic every sir our challenge this bill which I'm sorry quickly as on my mind about the diversity here uh is there someplace that we'll see actually the people that were given notice or they have given notice to us in terms of diversity about that that was I would like to see kind of debrief some lenses I mean we've been talking to Larry or she could make sure it's appropriate and I'll just make the same folks 25 years ago when the district that money there were at least three regional offices that probably correspond to some sense but you're not talking are you talking about that Geographic yeah and that's not what I represented what the area would look like the likely peripheral Geographic and way to make sense but they're different ways to slice it try two different ways over four million years it's really about the work that's being done the expertise that's required and how school communities work for network ways around similar problems of practice and challenges so relatable well that's what I was going to say that it's really appreciated about here and comments dr. Curtis which is that we have not historically had the mechanism in place for developing there school leaders and the truth is that the budget doesn't actually have a lot of dollars specifically for leadership development but what I've learned is when you identify that then you start to build all your structures thinking about developing everybody through out the organization so for example the first place I have to start is with me and my Chiefs and we need to continually develop both our relationship and our understanding by learning from one another and also looking how then we will work to emeriti have a retreat set on the calendar in January once we get all these traditions billed to them June 10th we're doomed to then work with the next layer which is Cu directors and directors across all three the assistant superintendents and area directors as well so that will become a team that will develop all together so that all of us understand that instructional leadership piece through an equity lens but that will always be part of that work and so our superintendents direct in our side that equity like reigns through everything we do ends that we're doing and we will call out what those specific elements are especially in the professional development so leadership development has not been a robust organized set of strategies for how we do that and so that's all graces with every department and so whatever want to go into next the teacher learning where dr. Valentino talk about how foundational core curriculum so on our mission as as it stands today in the absolute eating and learning to ensure that all students particularly those that have historically been marginalized to have access equitable access to the RN C the Bible freedom that across all discipline that is rigorous and equitable comprehensive and sustainable and so a different way of describing here and a local curriculum is that we provide a comprehensive instructional program where every student walks through our doors meet them where they are and to the maximum potential the in order to achieve that there are two slides that identify key priorities for our work moving forward and the first one is the convolution and initial rollout of our core curriculum in that--which arts math and science one of the learnings has been and it connects back to the commons about capacity within the district and the supports that have been provided over time that the initial rollout will need to be prioritized more carefully because in my conversations with principals and with teachers when I go to the schools and then we have that talk with administrators at the same time and we need to narrow the scope
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prioritize more carefully and so one of the things that we're doing now is to revisiting what the original scope of that work was and we sequence it so that it actually is manageable bicycles what that does then is move to the second one which is to focus on our professional development if this is the expectation how are we going to support our teachers our site administrators and ourselves to be able to deliver deliver on that and so given the financial situation one of the things that we're going to be leveraging more of this technology not so much in the short term because there will be a learning curve but as we enhance our and systems it will allow us to provide our our teams and our staff with access to learning opportunities out there delivered 24/7 in a five by then and any device and they're designed to accomplish to face and those are supports for teachers administrators and the central staff the an area that has become for me a very important component of that work is the CT framework works by participating in some of the meetings more recently or on the modernization and all of that CTE has has come up as a really important component then that have a closer attention right to it partly metro ninety-eight as as a funder of some of that work really requires that we revisit word where CT stands now and that's one of those competition those meetings have happened literacy team moving in the future and how are we going to support that so that 20 30 years from now there's it's the liable even met the assessment framework is another area that has also come up more recently one because as we roll about our core curriculum work when the things that we need is measures we need a measures of progress in our implementation but also measures of impact that it's having on student growth and achievement and there is a district assessment framework that was developed last year and so now is about expanding its implementation so that one we have a way of calibrating across the entire district and to measuring and to compare how students are performing no matter where they are across across the system and so part of our core curriculum work is integration our formative and summative assessments and inside of that for that work as all of you know PE and health has become part of the conversation this year because the state is requiring that we pay more attention to it and that we make agreements that we are going to implement with fidelity whatever agreements we make and so that has led to conversations around how to best support schools in particular medical Mills and so we are a teenage and in those conversations around the PE and health requirements and how how best to to implement them and support schools - science and a little bit conversation last Tuesday around the EEO program said wanting to collaborate does that include and maybe we should mention if it does alignment of eld standards which is which is correct the there's a second slide of 1819 priorities reality right you know continental there's still pretty common for standard kind of catch up right now and so this is a pretty ambitious listing also I don't want to give the board the impression we're not presenting a strategic plan department by department we're laying out of a high level what these chunks of work regrettably that we're managing resources for we're trying to make sure each of these end up with a very specific set of action steps that will allow these to move down and our goal is also to to close those historic gaps and snow that's a rule peace of all things that supports going to happen Molly over there under core curriculum I notice that it does not include social studies and that an area where I know we were all over the place Turkey so as you know the limiters the history social science standards are are being finalized at least speak oh so they will become available over the summer so over the summer there is there is a group of closest and some teachers who will be
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working in the development of scope and sequence for that how it will be implemented and wrote that will depend on bandwidth at schools right and so I didn't call it out as as as the initial work because of the areas that we are focusing on but there is there is an attendant interest by some schools watch began to implement as well as for and so the PE and health isn't required in high school that the student takes the presidential testing the annual presidential testing make it at it I mean because when I was in 2008 alum of Grant High School but I went to middle school in the first part of my freshman Indian resume and it was required for us to participate in the presidential testing which was a little more out for the students couldn't get award you know whichever rankings you did I don't know it would it is in the state of Oregon my understanding is that it's not I don't think it's watered I think some PE teachers included in their program but I think it's a choice the exciting thing I mean the other good things are exciting to second thing as well is that is the integration of early learning and so TL so that we can begin to look at it as a p12 routine you know about that and I've been talking to Antonia to sort of give some guidance and direction about how to do that it has been sitting with them on the other exciting one is the formalization of the EPS art master plan which we are really excited about when we want to leverage the commitment by the citizens of Portland to support the Arts important I agree to tax themselves but more importantly they need the right solution spend an opportunity to enjoy their their keen positive experience body spending did you expect on them considering the very limited these State Department gas bedroom so it's exciting in our conversations with folks in the community who are very pro arts education is an interest in helping to come together in an advisory sort of refresh with art education master plan and philanthropy concerning wanting to support with that so we're excited about with the next level education experiences then partly in reaction to see what's included in core curriculum because arts wasn't tested it was four years now it was just an extra so I get bristles see core curriculum testicles I don't think you have the administration that's driven by to us you saw many content areas listed to be honest most school systems will take on one part of a population and make the requisite investments of professional development and instructional materials which are teachers about it while trying to do multiple content areas at once and hold in and need some refresh district and so the last we are as part of our work we really need to frame our work and so an instructional framework for us curricular framework in order in order to be able to formalize and articulate
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who we are as a department what our focus areas are probably defining our priorities and how we're going to measure our progress over time and so that would be done through an instructional framework and our hope is that our instructional framework will inform the superintendent and what as they move towards the strategic plan that that aspect of the work of running a school district and corporates parts of the instruction and this is a very important point because is a clear articulation of the pedagogical models that would be used across content areas and with diverse learners that we serve and so how do we be really explicit Universal Design for Learning how do we be explicit about doing fortunately responsive in our strategies how are we clear in the early grades about how we build foundational effective elements of literacy that built into our models all the way up through the grades so we need to define all of that because in the absence of that clear guidance folks living you see variability and therefore you see variability in outcomes and you especially see it in the gaps with that are subgroups of students so when you talk about OB director special brevities how do you talk about integrated eld and all of our content areas at the same time that we talk about designated ei for red Els and particularly how we serve how that crosswalks to the actual budget so what line item was that talk about here would match look on the budget document yes several lines of development look like no money in it so it's like I know it's got to go somewhere else so how does that how does that match to the actual owner we might have to be at that level of sophisticated budget book I hadn't thought about it but PBS for that was clear but we would have to dive in a little deeper to the next level to be able to show how we're setting aside resources to be able to do this work that's been months of sort of trying to figure out what pools and resources are going to be enough to move each of these areas along but so then conversely for prioritizing things what are what are things that were prioritizing so we're just skimming through like both men trading numbers are classic but one of the trade-offs were to prioritize this that's the right work how much does that cost and what are we what are we saying this year were [Music] so it's not that we did you know three months into the next fiscal year or like happen we're not doing that hot how does it affect the steps of all right well I just say like you know what what are the trade-offs of being intentional about you know or we okay with spending half the money that we spent last year in textbooks really any elementary school summer school programs it may be okay because we're buying this with the budget but wanting to be like be able to think intentionally about knowing so as an example purposes so the the office budget is is inclusive of personnel that includes site based sites site based staffing which is of the staffing that we have at 25 million dollars 50 million is site based in this our classrooms and etc so that really lowers the number quite a bit and so with whatever is is left this includes some central office staff it includes the programs professional development that is one and also the the textbook purchases and it's bike by cost to each department but if you look at textbook purchases for example one of the challenges that that we're facing is the ability to have a full complement of resources in every subject area bridges in math for example the first version of those was prior to Common Core so schools are working with metal materials that are before we don't have the the moons of dollars necessary to purchase a new series so what the district has been doing is refreshing and actually purchasing from other school districts that are eliminating theirs and we're binding
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actually not only are they bridges not aligned with common core but it was never aligned with the original last set of Oregon's standards when we went to standards in 1991 that is when we went to the first set of standards before we wanted to come in core EPS hasn't made that first step so I think you've heard sometimes our superintendents say and some things were like in the 90s well we are so I think that another is is our science program at the elementary level we use Faust kids the first so that those are examples of how the then that having sufficiently the other thing is that we did as part of cutting our budget we cut 25 closest those doses were originally scheduled or art or marked to be working in schools as we implement the core curriculum in these three areas to service coaches and support students in One Flew well though they'll be gone so when the things that that we will have to do differently instead of providing a direct approach Amaro it'll be a consultancy model right where you cluster school sort of our third earth individuals to the other end then a child science and people will be working with them so it does limit in the way that we're going to be able to support some of the work that we're really now it's an area around in-person support doesn't we do think about winter under formats for getting dial tone to teachers with doesn't exist is an educator portal that it gives that guidance cleansing planet suggestion lays out many instructional materials and so that's part of what our conversations are right now is highly open all of the emerging part very come across content areas it is chunked out an online so no teacher has to stand up on a Sunday night wondering wrong women teach savage and so all developed teachers for teachers and so the LMS when the things that I talked about earlier fresh development was hard even though that I'm over Buster neck so that is the plan that we're gonna produce that there's some other district they're on an item system and important it is working on canvas so some schools some students and some teachers have already been working on canvas for a couple of years the the plan is to migrate towards a more more robust than men consistent effort which will do many of the things that that was pertinent was was describing so one of the reasons we vetted this particular platform is because we have to somehow leapfrog to get our teachers contents lessons video clips pedagogical guidance so we're purchasing that all of us been archived invented so teachers you know continue and absorb all about aphasia and teams of teachers and look at those and so the it means it'll it's it's going to be definitely a whole different generation what they've experienced yes so we're not reinventing it we don't have no capacity to read a better how do we because there's good stuff out there [Music] so this is a newly formed Office of Student Support Services so we just have a draft mission currently which is to provide from the responsive services program and systems of supports to students and families which contribute
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to not only be academic but also the social because this is release we will be gathering the stakeholders from many different subjects to work on the mission division of this so our new office what do we do there are six the first one is athletic that oversees about letting through fourth grade management sorry no sorry I actually language yeah so sorry and I did that I actually spoke about so so the other one to get is a special education which actually financially is the largest part of this office and it is for all of the special programs in program any of our separate schools credit contracts there are educators myself so that is especially Columbia regional program that is the regional services that we have a contract to serve for our students with low incidence disabilities we have a regional program provides services support and professional development for 22 school districts in our area which include four counties and three tsks enrollment and transfer which a new department which is called our multi-tiered systems of support we are actually fully a member of our resources and then this is one area that we're building on we've made some priority decisions and where we're putting resources and this is one area that is desperately needed it will include response to intervention which is RTI our school climate team a restorative justice positively here supports or QA can either of you explain that show why multi-tiered systems of support or or use or tenant it's under your purview as opposed to well it's the fact is the multi-tiered system of support you look at it from my response to intervention triangle academic out so all this is attempting to capture is that set of strategies and bodies of work strands that would be led a little newly launched department we are talking about an entirely new office of chief bringing together two supports and so all of these are aimed at getting the readiness to learn so that the multi tier system supports that applies for the academic oxidized the teaching learning with articulating for for Tier one curricula vetted evidence-based to to curriculum in programs and there's two reasons but the term can be applied to everything by the UM TSS in your resource management I applied it to school improvement across large districts and now you look at it all the same is that whatever good the stuff is you're differentiating levels of support and intervention whether you're talking about schools or students or in this case our department thinks about differentiating and supportive schools how do you offer a building content knowledge in each of these areas and have some mechanism for working with different school communities who are raising their understandings but also may have specific crises issues incidents where the team I just want to add something thank you it's it's you know they've been working in those two pieces especially vir smrti in separate phases and everything together so if there's another sort of cross department part I want to explain and you'll see when I show OSP that there's part of mt SS in their core functions as well so our superintendent explain the behavior classroom climate and the academic side but then if you also visualize the bottom is the core which will be in Cote L right and then there then you start to identify what our tier two interventions in one or two or three interventions so in terms of
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this office she will oversee all of the behavior side from core to tier two interventions in tier 3 interventions the RTI part will be a person who's anchored in her department but will work really closely with the Lisa's Department on the academic core so that they're working in partnership so just to give you an example we're talking about elementary literacy the the director who's in charge of literacy and ensuring that we implement the core we'll also be working with this RTI person so together they identify whether our going to be our tier two and Tier three supports and then there's a component in OSP where assistant area assistant superintendents and area directors will really be focusing on the cap and the data and data literacy and providing reports and together across all three of those we will be teaching this is the way you look at what we're doing first what is the implementation of the quarter look like which will be in OTL while we're doing that we're looking at individual student data the same gorilla students that are starting the fall through the crack because they don't have what they need and we will have people anchored in both departments to look for those academic supports and then the behavioral supports mostly said in a student services so you can see we have to work together in order to get a whole system of MTFs to work so we'll talk about this at the end of the presentation about how we begin to build that kind of system performance and progress monitoring so it's hard to track it now we don't have the system - we don't have the projects you can't be able to make those decisions because we haven't talked about an assessment system capacity requirements and we haven't had professional development or money for professional development to teach people a real RTI process where you actually watch the progress of every student and those who are behind you watch that progress every to succeed but it's attitude I mean we've had a terrible chicken and egg times where we don't resource the ability to get the student data that can inform help us have evidence-based practices and we know that area a lot there the state Bria to do the work so they'd have a lot of experience district so yeah I just meant for people or an RTI so that we can start to partner with them in regards to university that might be something but budget-wise that mean we do the last apartment over to counselors school sites are section 504 students threat assessment crisis response our Rapid Response Team which is part of article 6 or now we call particle trauma our suicide prevention mental health drug and alcohol nursing and school-based health centers so it's really all those critical supports to help our kids before me this is Brenda's referencing the fact that we made permits to actually follow through and implement Plus enhance our ability to act quickly in crisis so Brenda being the 2/3 response tool to put together a multidisciplinary seven people where behaviors of health providers and that is another area just like NTFS wearing a repurposed resources in order to make sure that we're really looking actively districts capacity at that Tier three area providing teachers with some some wellness opportunities providing students and families with access to a school site that doesn't happen especially related and then also offering more of those therapeutic intervention coaches so that we would support this system building that capacity and this late so much areas getting a portfolio that also generally is yeah I'm going to subscribe to the here there's zero doubt
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and I plan on writing it's still like $10,000 and I'm sorry for pages to page seven but how do you get me thinking about but well so I can fix that I have your fun let me at Overlea so this last pair of you were making twenty two requirements we're out of your fantastic areas so is this a budget that will get us back in compliance does that support the services and the work so the $800,000 for the IEP rating I believe just moved from one budget to another it was under the HR department and when we eliminate yeah so what we did is we decided in a number of areas in HR to actually put the funding where it's supposed to go so I EP writing make sense that would fall under the special education we know so if they need to do something together like it somewhere else maybe it's a go to line whatever or where that is and I was gonna wait to render the finish before I came back to ILC tag calm down yeah we will took tamale what none of that hasn't met - we do need to do that that cleans make that's all transparent that buddy book is one sorry initiative so gives him that second okay both of those specifically on ie writing I was having our budget legal requirements Department before basically moving out to the school it's not as clear in this book because there's 30 different ways we can you know present this and all of them work differently but it is being moved from a budget finance piece where it was how it is a sort of incidental but necessary cost to the district to the content based department where it will be how you are correct that there are still done so much for your organization some of those account lines which are accounted for in the bottom line they need some clarity and I think collecting those pieces that way specific questions about that we can go into that line item by line item Keith that is unintelligible to everybody but the budget part mistake is $500,000 from here to here so that we have the plain language answers that you need that are also refined the other people are doing for this that is information that they need that's arisen if we have in a under in a format that's too large to share with anybody else but we could definitely catalog those a crosswalk that to the actual budget so I didn't answer that I'm aware of and we have addressed those issues like this or saying prevention training or at rest so so the area that I you know about we have made plans to suggestion could we have a separate piece of paper that looks at the division 22 and whatever well there's a budgetary impact thank you that answer goes on say special ed and MP SS and some things around student success those are you the one left holding the baby or is it and that's an answer so we will be responsible for the content of the professional development it's going to go under Oh TL for professional that would coordinate the district's PD plan but each department because of our expertise will be responsible for providing that so here's my observation is every
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department was kind of throwing out the opportunities they work coherently organized into one universal PD catalog that had been vetted it so now this way every department she for being to come together as a multi-discipline department who actually published a catalogue of those those opportunities they're producing sponsoring or some that might be available through some other partner closely related at least in my mind accessing resources or counselors and school sites like the Family Services is that going through your department going to or like mental health service the emails oh yeah it was great yeah Cascadia we currently in contract Lydia the county horses Center so anyway so I wanted to tell you these are sorry so as I understand it okay Jim gibla so looking into that and try understand what the process I think it didn't think it was scoping like single-digit million dollars I would be surprised at that Rhode Island also there's a pros and cons to building for Medicaid right that's also a moral issue so you would have to make sure that you're building that into your budget if you're actually point services thanks my question yeah so you would have to do that you'd have to have some sort of allocation to want to turn the Medicaid building and then how you're providing the railers thence back like a hosta civility so it's very it's similar and most disability of the life he's here to do then but so it's something we definitely need to talk about because it would be a great benefit to PBS because we have a number of streams medicaid-eligible but there are a lot of additional complexities in regards to learn but specifically with and we do we've sewed that so and the entities of some of our staff actually does some of that certification today through hemust and it is an extra workload [Music] I I'm not sure they fixed everything me and then to most districts the accepted district config as PPS have just let go of it because we were spending more money tracking it then we were actually getting it wasn't cost effective for us now in PPS it might be so I think we want to see what happens with the legislature I know that Jim is doing a little research that he and I didn't touch base began on that but I have been checking with other districts and what they were doing in most people I have been doing it were doing it so those changes everyone was doing it up about three years ago it's flash fiction central office - and about a third handle it off of that approximately $30,000 investment we were bringing in about three million bucks a year so very much work that absolutely and the workload issues out in the schools I know that we got those solved and then we started doing it as soon as we gather the salt but I think that just my civic reasons I'm not going tracking it all good
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it's the question at hand though is do we need to build any of that into this budget or are we gonna spend some time exploring there is a small amount built into this budget right now I don't remember the accurate number but we have long on the revenue side we build on a small amount of relatives business depends where as we kind of learn a little bit more over the coming weeks we want to sort of move your hands are dancing so my priorities for the remainder this year is to first post four positions hire staff of our professional development Oh TL establish a budget reporting mechanism that has now give me both for internal processes as well for me with my department senior partners and directors so that were so the Reinhardt metallurgic finally budget contractual agreements organize and facilitate the vision and mission work that I talked about review contacts in all of our departments to look for efficiencies and monitoring components and one example is our resolutions request contract currently that provides contracted services we're going to bring those services in-house we have some highly skilled staff that weird to grow that department and then really what we need to look at is adult that adult remediation needs and resolution our quest has a branch of that excellent and what they do so we really want to use them to to augment and support but bringing people in her own staff more beneficial or our shooter the latter across cultures and languages because I know worse about some of the glitches with our non-english speaking families in this last one is to just establish those meeting structures and processes development rate but really I think you raised a wonderful question again where is your translation services is it spread to the different departments for is it one specific rate constants indications okay about school-based translations understanding that used to be the school based responsibility but they didn't get extra necessary extra money so I believe it's all in communications and all 16 communications but a lot is it was spent by the schools directly good contractors are very like treating the past dollar spend up contractor schoolers they just house but now it's all so one sample families have learned IEP is translated if they came out of the school budget they were likely to I'm so connecting with interpreter translators around retraining a car a so we don't ever walk back to the issue so if we're doing these questions when we get earlier session which is okay and you're so early in our in our tenure Brenda and I have just begun around where should the how do we best collaborate these coordinates so the bullet point organizing facilitating vision mission work with stakeholders Hoonah statement so the stakeholders are going to be a variety of the fold staff from multiple departments I would like to have a family and input administration so it's a variety of because this is the office of students
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of course so I think that we need to really make sure that our mission vision mission and work reflects so there are there are a number of but I think you also want to do some thinking as this this is something that we have nothing welljust okay so move on to the budget Student Support Services is we are 84 million as the largest percentage of the office buzz budget is special education services which is most 87 percent which is about love the percent the general fund athletics for the office budget and 7.7% I didn't want to talk a little bit about that the athletics department has been under budgeted for multiple years and so we have right into that ship so we ensured that the budget reflects the actually spending over an average of trying to do averaging over into the military for three years three years I think it was a three-year average and so what we did is we which well um not quite what really what would happen it started with over you would overspend every year and a budget was artificially low you know expensively what this does this allows until you continue to offer the current level of service without overspending a budget so it throughs up there really what it does intrusive budget he will still use his foundation to raise money that we provide it it is it is a it's more accurate foundation so I think now we have to debate about whether or not that's the right place to invest one talking about what are the core services that we expect to be delivered character has there is supplemental funding before what I think many could argue our core services like for example when we started the whole mill School Athletic programs there was no additional resources for that so is this film relying on student fees no this budget does not rely on student into the general fund and then we're balancing the athletic I don't as per the three-year average so anywhere you're asking is is their participation fees yeah yeah PDF say this we didn't increase and because we're in a budget cut mode we have looked at making reduction of staff letters when we found that we were not even funding to the level in a reduction that we had to say first we have to break the ship then we have to look deeper at everything where we gonna copy or not because to touch those we're actually cutting services to kids we're actually going to cut out certain sports programs and the kids that they give an impact are the kids who are historically underserved of course we don't want to do that it's always a challenge planning for efficiencies budgetary I do want to look at how to make our office more efficient so we will prioritize mandatory services in a legally compliant that includes all of our parts title and because there are a number of things
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that haven't been monitored on a regular basis I am coming in a time to lead you on a monthly basis not on personnel budgets for every single month and every single department that's what we constructive review context critically in order to monitor for the effectiveness of the contracted services a lot of times were continuing to offer contracts over and over again and we're really not monitoring for that so we really need to look at what our needs are and then the services including in the contracts some kind of evaluation mechanism that's what that's what I would make sure to make buddy we're not a standardized so our attention and then the last piece of that to make that transparent and then we already talked about the restructuring of small entity again next step is the mission is to develop that align our system of the frameworks I was in 312 so that we have a seamless system of support to implement a comprehensive multi-tiered system of support and roll it out along with what it was used to be called as the rabbit responsible which is how they destroy territory research and implement a drug an alcohol and a dual diagnosis airplant implement our custom we have started that this year we implemented a student level student threat assessment in all of our high schools we also implemented level two threat assessment which is community based and then we will roll it out for our rural schools are all programs and our element raised next year we have it at the I think it's the North Precinct Sparrow and then we so we go there twice I'm unfamiliar with space issues getting this ugly in there and so there are a number of different purchases department division well justice DHS doing correction yes and then a number of our different departments like our reconnection services especially we've modeled this after sale appraisers leveled threat assessment we do a number of months of training with them they can often help us train and so we're modeling our level two team after the stabilizer model which is called a big bid it was big and then the last thing is to just learn more about my new departments in order to so two questions through ones of parent engagement or how do you see that run across so I renewed supporting her academic success that recommended curriculum materials so be able to I coming out this can explain a bit about that wait a minute when it's a perfect yeah so I merely some changes to Antonio's it's cleaner people oh it's me they have time
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to match up where did libraries oh okay very interesting libraries alright go in the office of school performance Antonio is the assistant superintendent oversees backward it's oh you did - this is the life of an email response they may have the boolean single okay so the mission in office of school performance that the office develops towards and supervises schools by providing professional development coaching and differentiated supports in order for principals to become as strong as our capacity really attending to those rituals village of their research teachers make a difference with individual kids and classrooms but the only way you get high-performing schools is through instruction he's willing to push those changes it was how to support people and so on these leaders model and support teachers in these teachers these leaders model and support teachers in utilizing high leverage culturally relevant and rigorous instructional strategies so the strategies will be identified in the professional come from OTL as well as the content professional development but it's really the work of autistic performance to ensure that we are doing an adequate job of developing this book so it's just really a close working relationship between coordinates for TL as well as support so the priorities that aren't working collaboration aside from the other two offices to implement the instructional program and to access the wraparound services to ensure a strong principal and vice-principal in every building who is well matched to the school community that was one of our strategic priorities recently and to provide high quality feedback that deepens skills and performance resulting increase to point of everything we do is to improve instruction for students so this is just showing you the a couple of models of to the question about how many area system where informants and area directors we have one model is showing that there would be a cohort that is supported by an area system soup and a narrative director the other side shows okay maybe we don't find that people are really ready for that assistant superinten so we'll use the ones that we do have and then partner those area directors under them for being partnering a couple of cohorts the the most important thing here is that we actually get a structure where people have the knowledge and skill so we meet at every level so that people see the pathway but they also get the support and the training you need to be prepared for each level the future core functions and services and this is one kind of still under development is to hire develop instructional leaders the services are to provide that leadership development opportunities for building administrators and the impact is that you'll have strong instructional leaders that lead the instructional work in schools that raise student achievement asperity isn't by subgroups that we need to be for to also support schools so when is the instructional leader but that is supporting schools all kinds of things go on in those schools so providing the professional development coaching and differentiated support and to be the bridge to the other departments if there's something we didn't through HR or budget or whatever that might be that they are the ones on the ground those area directors and assistant superintendents working closely with the principals to find out what they need and then come work with the other department and then school accountability is through the cap in the MTS s model so here's that other length 2 TSP to Mt SS in OSP so OSP provides the reports some assessment literacy training which originally come from OTL but we'll continue that training over and over again as people know that to help them be supported in that way assessment literacy trainings that's not just literacy trained and the impact is
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that we raised an achievement for all students and eliminate those achievement is where disparity disparities say and then another court function is the induction to support the retention and growth services building pathways for success for all of those leaders and the impact for us there then we have a strong full of ready leaders to take those outside so you're going to hear overlap and coming weeks reimagine challenge of culture department will do some overlap goals in question so the school support budget is 5.5 percent of the general fund thirty five point five million to 16 and you can see that where most of that money goes is to charters and to our multi pathways to multiple pathways to graduation and so the kind of thing we have a follow up slides you can read all of those other numbers yourself but the biggest ones I'm gonna highlight right now though but can you go back so I guess we can so the office of school performance and senior leadership so you might affirm that about I guess the budget don't they have a lot of grant work too so in terms of just the general fund part okay so we parse that out the chef Oringer so I just wanted to call out those two suits to make sure we all kind of shared understanding what happened there so chargers here one question at some point I think it would be good to know what percentage of our students are actually I kissed your hair that really excited so and then just to bring us all up to the same understanding of the charter schools we serve nearly 2,100 k-12 students annually in innovative programs with specific educational philosophies and delivery models that offer additional options for students families within the public school system charter schools enter into a contract with PBS for sponsorship in the maintain a high level of autonomy in exchange for increased accountability the charter schools are funded through the state school funds that are passed through PBS general funds state school allocation using a mathematical formula depending on the in addition PPS includes charter schools in our equity allocation and this is the PPS decision calculating the FTE that those schools will be entitled to converting you have to eat of dollars and include in their allocation and that Weston e-learning 3 it's my whole we just did that because those 2100 students are our students right in the school year 1819 that passed view is estimated at fourteen point four month meaning only one amount no not just equity a stain one out that goes state from the state to the charter schools and do we pass through 80 percent or 85 oh I didn't see you back there turn right it is 85 at k-8 and 95 and what about in that and that is two and that's outlined by the state so we need do the we do exactly what the state requires as part what is it for comfort of alternative schools again that's determined by statute and its eighty percent that operating and that changes we give that figure from our budget office every year what that operation so so the state mandates the that 85% than 95% we do that we do know been
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among charter schools around the state of absent state to raise that higher charter schools in our district have historically common tasks leadership has always provided that we followed the state guidelines of what we are required to pass through they've asked for districts up but that were adding it so when you add in equity funds what's done I mean I want to say equity was $300,000 or so right across all the chart across all the church was it was a because we need west end of the tunnel we have a play that we play the specific equations based on population this population in a lot of church schools which would use the dollar to attract a more diverse school campuses like this [Music] it's like no cat for how many students whoever shows up at the door before we do have his Caesarea logic level for staffing administrators but not in charter school is that what was that your question what was more like a general but okay yeah it was because it was mentioned about so yet look the question came in said it's mentioned about principles but on the chart it doesn't show where the principles would lie on this chart and then I know there's a previous charter to where it said the area of assistant superintendent so I'm trying to might get a visual of both charts put together and see where the principles apply and how the students would have their support from the principal because as you mentioned the leadership that the principals have to withhold for their teachers just alone so just trying to find the balance of both charts together in other words to share with you from Staffing that included school level administrators today we're talking about central office administrators that's right oh no I got so multiple pathways just to give you a little background on multiple pathways serves more than 10,000 k-12 students and Lane up in our most vulnerable students by providing schools and all districts white credit recovery during the day in all comprehensive focus and alternative schools as well as an evening and a summer so multiple pathways to graduation works with parenting students and their children aged six weeks and students pre-k through 12 also includes our community-based alternative schools who serve over 2,000 students who had disengaged from comprehensive high school programs and creative a really great presentation at one of our teaching and learning committee meetings all of the multiple pathways to graduation schools and programs provide direct services to students and directly impact our high school graduation and completion rate so when we were looking at where do we reduce the budget in the office of school performance you saw the majority of it goes to charter schools which we don't have a choice on that the the next biggest bucket goes to this work and it almost all goes out to fits directly so if we were to cut any resource for them it would have actually cut the number of kids we can serve and they're like that's amazing what they serve what they have supporter it is where we're getting the eight pieces individually it should be noted that interesting the equity plot the contracted alternative schools don't get the equity funds but our charter schools to do so change them my mind
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that somebody we need Enix well I think the bigger question is why is it twenty percent of the student population just uses an alternative for our traditional that's like every right time so yeah I've never heard of that yeah so there's something about our offerings and our program we should pay attention to some of those practices there's some learnings so that we're doing that across more of our schools sorry kids don't feel like they have to choose a different alternative you're probably always we support teachers there's likely something about the demographic that's appearing in these programs that somehow are not being served this is one of our priorities keep it on that huge homeless and clearly not doing a good job supporting for many of these programs are and I am learning from those promising practices which actually have part of our treatment I just want to say one thing one piece that data I think is really fascinating that's what we did a joiner of studies one of the last things fair finger did before she left 18 percent of our high school community joined PBS after ninth grade I think one of the things our interesting just and so I think there's house just broaden the event conversation just like what our superintendent said so one in five students did not go through our eighth birthday and they might have moved and they may have stopped early in a lab that they come back or adore they come back after ninth grade they don't start practice not around probably do that environment join our high school programming after that dream so it's just interesting when we talk about something that that isn't just seem to bring up in this context so they don't stick at one point we had this stunning map of our high schools that showed random percentages not random but how many percentages what what percentage x of the faith schools population had been at number Y schools before reaching that high school and Madison was at about 8 for 30% of the kids and Roosevelt was over 12% it's like at the school and then at a different school every year before they got to manage their gutter was really stunning we should recirculate that team is highlighting some pretty big priority areas and under the choir implementation but this I gotta say schools and I want to say thank you to Karina and everybody in this program that is literally saving my future straining mmm fart feel but what does it say now middle school option here contractors an alternative school I don't know what we're talking about where those kids are going in now we're going to share their success what working our best working our best good question about so going back to this chart about what's penis high school programs so it kind of I guess I'm struggling just a little bit to figure out what determines when something is he in the OTL find it trying to get it but picture so I'm not actually sure what their highschool
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answers that's well we're looking at yeah exactly exactly the split on that thing will about and its soda sizzle so kind of the logic is that [Music] you're wondering about how about organizing yeah yeah I'm trying to figure out the logic of it doing this is speaking like a case can be made for a different athletics school-based programs coaches but but the other thing is I mean so my understanding of OSP has been that its primary function and I may be very wrong but I thought the primary function was supporting and principles like school leadership its primary function should condition that includes not just the principal or any of those programs that are directly serving kids towards graduation so really really if you're going to move to schools at scale okay okay so I should just maybe I should preface this the difference between OTL and OSP has always been very fuzzy to me so if we the way I think about it is if all the people versus the content and the assessment curriculum for the most part would be in OTL but all the leaders supporting the teachers supporting so when we look at staffing and all of that you've got these leaders that are providing the support in terms of management as well as instructional leadership but they can't and actually Antonio groups but well really well to them you should say with you although we haven't had one is that what and that is that the instructional model and that's all the only groups of it up the how its implemented a is really that four-speed part right how do we make sure that we usually happen how do we make sure that they is that in the classroom it's been visible in terms of what it is how do we make sure that whatever is preparing that instructional side in a pedagogy side that in the schools is implemented so that's how I see it but there there's such a close relationship or shimmy and what you share this morning was there hasn't in the past there was in fact relationship and and there wasn't the resource in OSP so they weren't be very separate and you can see what we're trying to do is really kind of overlap these to say we all have a responsibility around the instructional core which is why it lives in my vision priority because that is what I'll have to continually ensure is that we are doing that work together it was probably about a computer vision separately beyond city of socratic thing it's a three headed quality of support similar to the deputy so we have to change that paradigm by making sure these departments are working very closely together around the table talking about the same set of schools looking at the same capacity system performance data conversation good examples of how to that divide because I like my grandson is it I don't see migrant on here it's like shouldn't
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they be together somewhere so the the federal programs have been spread all over the places part of the challenge OSP had title and my understanding is historically kind of nobody was watching that once so Antonio did something about that and since so he he had it in his apartment we have now moved all the new programs grandpa and programs to ot else so it has that instructional piece and Antonio thought that was what we needed to do but he was holding on to it before because we really don't have it all together but soon will you do that move so young so we published it without a budget see this is what we keep finding out every day why is this over here microphone I think we've answered a question question investing that is important it is important to know that in the past there were three assistant superintendents riding in funded programs America was under one of the assistant superintendent hours area declared in last year when that position was eliminated then it was left or speaking on T L so we absorbed some of those last year so that's why you have this occasion is because it was tea party was three assistantship is okay so whether you find Leslie but I'm not quite sure where this you have a under TL focus or premise on assessment framework this performance aspect is a school level indicator is it under this assessment in okay I want you to type check and get there for ten minutes did you get in one question I think all my questions will be answered so just to go back with the mental health and trauma you have mentioned with medica Medicaid pain clinics but sounding like that for the public schools and paying for that clinic instead of Medicaid those Medicaid was the thing for that clinic and she had also mentioned having therapists to speak with my high school counselor was certainly have a PhD so she was able to treat you know on multiple levels but if she was to say have hours in the clinic and Medicaid started paying for that the neck should be able to rule some you know balance out some fun to go back into the general budget because they medicate you campaign for her service okay so you can probably tell by this presentation going at a reduced budget it was really difficult when what we're trying to do is FIFA FIFA stop and because we cannot cut a special education and don't want to but also because of maintenance of effort and then when we look on officers plane performance that the biggest chunks were multiple pathways to graduation the charter schools which we don't get a choice over and the senior directors which were pretty thinly staffed in fact they only have a budget themselves of twenty five thousand dollars to support all the schools in their cluster so there wasn't anything we wanted to reduce there on the so the area that we were looking for efficiencies one of the things we've learned is that we had what we call SFA's or community agents in multiple divisions in the district and so we've identified that there's 21 FTE Student Success advocates and 9.5 FTE in community agents and when we talk to
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people about what they're doing there's not a clean line so what we have decided is the project manager in student support one of the projects they're going to do is meet with all of these different community agents and see if we can get a framework and an understanding of what are they all doing when it first of all what we really need what are they all doing what should be the right structure and then that will be in student support services once we figure that all out however for the budget reduction piece the only thing we could find that we could reduce to take a parent or at least a little bit out of OSP to reduce those community agents in the office of school performance so you'll see in our West RV school and family partnerships so what we also find is they're called different things in each of these departments so that's what they were called in OSP we reduce those four partly because we needed to make a reduction somewhere and we know that those tasks are getting replicated in other people so we took those for having a particular language very important so we have some multiple languages represented in all of those as well okay so we're just we're not making sure that we continue to have that represented languages so I don't want to say we're not losing anything because that was to say there wasn't value there was value and want people in accounting but we just think we don't have any coordination so that's the first thing we need to do and then we can see you know what are we what are we serving and are we doing it well and where are the gaps so I guess I guess my question more specifically was we say if we support five languages or just to ensure that we still somewhere in these people have those languages covered well we know we have them covered in communications translation we would likely not share the goal of saying we want one cookie or in family communication units that is able to support multiple programs and partners if that unit has to verse multilingual that's working closely with communications there was a lot of duplication this was an area where we felt we could get time but dr. Curtis I don't know this question for you or doctor dollars you know of it looking at the OTL budget I don't see alive or itself in the original chart I mean I realize that charges of the whole detailed chart handle it is there it's just deeper down in OTL okay okay but it's somewhere in this budget just not somewhere yeah thank you that's the thing you're not hearing today from all the departments is what is that reimagine a charlatan potential customers we reduced and the dying Blackbird specifically much more than okay I'll be brief because it's just me and my vessel insisting do you want maybe the one minute these are a few things I do fastest but it has a small or anyway so just friend it out there try to make sure it's working with our cabinet level of leaders to the portfolio high level just the top part of the org chart which represents my direct reports to deputies you've met one we'll factor the other side 50% off style defense for the next 48 hours general counsel Chiefs of Staff and newly minted talented culture Department and that matters because there's a couple of other areas you'll see under the superintendent and one of them is the racial equity which I'll talk about
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in a second with three elements that works in collaboration of other programs and departments those that are specific student initiatives that move and support specific underserved student groups community partnerships because often times they are the ones that have the expertise and they're valued partners and how do you leverage those in evaluate their value and impact and then serving the diverse that we have we have to have a workforce that reflects on families so how do we work with our talented culture department to really be active in our recruitment and development a diverse workforce so those are three elements their strategic specific plan detailed work on these three department because it would be presumptuous so we'll be inviting the Advisory Council to help co-construct that who are you doing conversations with many many many stakeholders on this company then on the left side to the system performance conversation all of this work whatever I find has been anemic and the organization is any ability to really track against key performance indicators performance metrics across each department there are no evidence of balance for cars that we are reporting on on a quarterly basis to board and we don't have a way that really accurately do program evaluation of grants investments that we made etcetera so how do we know that unless we're able to disaggregate my students served by program internally or externally or in the community to kind of gauge whether there's a return on investment this also includes sort of the broader assessment portfolio obviously that's going to be connected to teaching and learning but we need a check and balance and not just localized formatives but also state testing so they sort of that big event all together so we can we can work with it as we do so this is a small team that's been here working on their IT and just by pertaining it and for the moment we'll be giving a directed direction I think the board saw on my entry some of the ways that I have tracked school capacity and and over time we'll get to a point to where we can start scatter plotting the building capacity of our schools to be able to serve an accelerated student learning once all of these ingredients start to get into place and then we can have very very informed conversations about what's working and what's not so that's sort of the wish there go to the next page I only make reference to the racial equity plan because it's a five-year plan to expire two years ago by the way call for annual performance reports I haven't seen any so I want to pick up on the good thinking there might be I just haven't seen them we want to pick up on the good work that was done there and sort of what did we learn how do we use that as a springboard to the next five-year plan and how do we work with the broader community to develop that and one might be some of the elements that I talked about sort of three components that I see part of that effort those three areas there's going to to budget in this equity 2.0 but I'm calling Network there's some personnel because we do have some students that work out one per cohort and I on where there's areas are that requires support that may be really important moving forward to inform some gap areas there's some contracts have been a reduction there overall but it's about five million now set aside once we identify what it needs so we can set about what providers would be a match in some of those areas we can't begin the replicate some of that work because they're doing a pretty good job with it right now in some cases and then the talent America's tradition active in a child practice do something that work that's a percentage of all those are all generally going towards racial equity priorities of course that plan should be throughout all of our departments and then I talked about this is the performance work but it really would cover that team will start to really organize data across all of these areas with students school and program so we have evaluation of progress monitoring so there's there's seven FTP and there's a small reduction there is some work to do that includes an office or evaluation and program a grant evaluation that sometimes is so that's my quick quick pass okay so I just see the experiment just gave us the answers to the high school programs PCC and PS use dual credits is that to pay actually for the credits pretty good so some of some of that so I don't have the entire list but when I look at that those sort of the big picture of the bigger buckets that would come
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so that comes out of that so there's things like that that are just generally I think except where we left off and went pay attention to the last slide kind of where we left there but we would like deeper into the other departments that we do we mentioned stay on the operational side [Music] today percentages - actually I was trying to cross where is it here because one of the things is when it's in here you have some contact stuff last year whether it's up and down to see you like what the dollar that is and then how it escalated from yeah in the book dealer speaking of the book is used by program account department so that's motif one day and in some cases the amount may appear it's like different deflated but they're they're imagining entirely different water right it's just yes what's the budget to know are we is there a budget generally a shift in priorities it's not it's not clear and if it is how much so and then whatever what are we intentionally not or doing what's up and good to know that people so to flipp that is instead of sort of translating it before maybe along with translating back into here to do comparison which in some ways looking at this book doesn't give me much information is that are aware a way to see the dollar now percentages putting that's the percentage putting what the dollar number is that we have such a reorder that to try to do it well that's why I was that was more question of whether that actually makes sense I mean we could do is department by Department miss teen and you'll see green arrow the banner is now and some of the simple explanation because part of the function you are trying to call out what's it mean to work stranded without doing forward most pieces that we're adding for the same amount or less resources that we're trying to try to be efficient about so in some ways it might be rather than going through that numerical exercise which you just got a lot of fruits and vegetables that well let's get it we're making a substantial 10% or more greater investment or Lester well that's but you already know me for 65 positions yeah very Morgan yeah yeah like one of the things about senators I took a 10% increase in the tag plan writing it sounds like a lot but it's actually very much at all so I guess I'm trying to think it was like when I go for this budget like but what is it that we're putting our chip sound on in a big way and what are we not so that you know three months I'm not going to the superintendent saying how can we about rid of X you know didn't know that because I thought that was when the budgets are just finishing examine what's out okay one last question because we never we're still hearing I was still really confused about where the tag department is it's a Tokyo office of teaching
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sometimes it going to get you know it has a bottom this is like top tier you know what three four levels of the work charts not going away and it's not going to matter okay so I'm going to adjourn we've got a little bit over we're going to reconvene it six downstairs in the boardroom at for the for the budget


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