2013-12-02 PPS School Board Study Session
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Event 1: Board of Education - Study Session - December 02, 2013
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good evening this study session in the
board of education for December 2nd 2013
is called to order I'd like to extend a
warm welcome to everyone present and to
our television viewers all items that
will be voted on this evening have been
posted as required by state law this
meeting is being televised live and will
be replayed throughout the next two
weeks please check the Board website for
replay times this meeting is also being
streamed live and will be available on
the board website for later viewing
this evening we're going to start with
our public comment as we usually do miss
Houston do we have anyone signed up for
public comment do we have six
six and our first two are Eliza Earhart
Eisen and Jane greenall
that you are approaching I usually read
through the instructions although I know
you two have been here before we'd like
to thank you very much for taking the
time to come to our board meeting we
deeply value public input and we look
forward to hearing your thoughts
Reflections and concerns
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pursuant to board policy
1.70.012 speakers may offer objective
criticism of District Operations and
programs but the board will not hear
complaints concerning individual
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specific employees should be directed to
the superintendent's office and will not
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you have a total of three minutes to
share your comments please Begin by
stating your name and spelling your last
name for the record at the beginning of
the first two minutes a green light will
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yellow light will appear and when your
time is up the red light will come on
and this little buzzer will buzz and we
ask that you respectfully wrap up your
comments at that time again thank you
for coming and appreciate you giving us
your input thanks for your cooperation
Eliza Earhart e r h a r d t when my son
graduated I thought I was done with
advocacy on a systemic level in PPS I
volunteered mentoring our high school
students on a postgraduate planning and
continued to serve on some scholarship
boards but when I witnessed how
ill-prepared these motivated graduates
were for Life Beyond High School my fire
was re-lit of the students I helped with
College Planning at one PPS High School
88 had ACT scores 15 or below well below
College ready for a merit-based
scholarship I interviewed two PPS
valedictorians whose combined reading
and math SAT scores were 700 and whose
essays lack the grammatical and
organizational skills needed for college
or work
just looking at my own kids experience
with math instruction illustrates the
importance of teacher comp illuminates
the importance of teacher competency one
of my children had an administrator who
had not been in the classroom in over 15
years assigned to teach 7th grade
algebra it was a lost year of
instruction except for the six weeks
when a highly qualified sub took over
and my kids combined eight years of high
school math they had two years with a
truly truly exceptional teachers but six
years of really poor math instruction
which we could afford to supplement with
tutors but most families can't
through my volunteer work in a PPS High
School counseling center I followed
students who had A's and B's in four
years of high school math through
calculus or statistics but needed
remediation at OSU or could not pass the
math needed to enter the U of O Business
School
clearly even of the 63 percent who are
graduating on time the current level of
instruction is not preparing all of them
for college or career Betsy Hammond's
November 21st Oregonian article has our
Oregon public universities and community
colleges reporting that many students
who earn good grades in high school
arrive at College unready for
college-level writing or math even the
district data reports that only 37
percent of our high school students were
considered College ready in 2011-12
based on three of the five act subject
areas so I've jumped back into advocacy
and I'm calling for a contract agreement
that ensures teacher competency in
subject matter and grade level as
defined by State statue as The crucial
Criterion teaching assignments layoffs
and teacher assignments layoff and
transfer layoffs and hiring
over the last eight months I kept
hearing that the contract cannot be
resolved on the backs of teachers and I
totally agree teachers need to be
supported well to do their best work
with our kids but what about the backs
of our kids don't they deserve the most
qualified teacher in all their classes
don't they deserve to graduate with the
skills needed for College and Career I
want long service teachers protected
against job loss but there are ways to
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retrain and support teachers rather than
placing them in classes they are not
qualified to teach from day one
so I'm pleading with the Union the
district and the board to put children
first and ensure that competency and
teacher assignments is your top priority
in the contract thank you thank you
okay I'm Jane greenholsh green h-a-l-g-h
I'm also here to address the contract
and hoping that a strike can be avoided
my four main issues are hiring we need
to move the budget process forward
release the money earlier in the year
and have one hiring round no one has
explained to me how multiple hiring is a
good thing for students it puts
portlander to severe disadvantage in
hiring the best teachers I'm a union
member but my contract does not give me
the first dips on jobs
instruction hours you all know how I
feel about instruction hours Oregon sets
one of the lowest standards in the
country so freezing these low standards
into the contract doesn't serve the best
interest of students and I would urge
you to add any additional days to the
beginning of the year not the end to
give some relief to the students who are
taking AP and IB exams in April and May
they're competing against students with
significantly more schooling
workload I completely understand why the
teachers want reassurance that their
workloads won't increase I was at the
meeting in 2011 when you moved to the
six of eight schedule and cut teachers
if teachers hadn't had a workload cap it
would have been even worse for high
school students this year's original
budget proposal also laid off teachers
at a time when the district claimed it
had a stable budget so there's
understandable distrust from teachers
and parents as we move hopefully to a
more stable economy or if we find more
extra money the number one priority
should be hiring more teachers and
providing more instruction
and be wary of impact pay that gives the
teachers some economic relief but leaves
the students still in an overcrowded
classroom with an overloaded teacher
teachers one of my favorite teachers is
on the bargaining committee he works
tirelessly holds his students to a high
standard is an inspiration in the
classroom an invaluable resource on what
works in education you could double his
salary and it wouldn't be enough as far
as I'm concerned during parent-teacher
conferences last week I met equally
dedicated professionals who are
inspiring my kids to learn we need a
good evaluation tool to reward these
great teachers and to address the some
few bad teachers who do more harm than
good I'd suggest 360 evaluations for
both teachers and administration and I'd
urge the union to help make sure the
best qualified most effective teacher
can get the job and I'd urge
administrators to hold themselves to the
same high evaluation standards and I
wish we could do 360 evaluations of the
parents as well
thank you
our next two speakers Kirsten Hayes and
Laura Peraza
Stephanie Weber and Teresa Seeley
sure
hi my name is Stephanie Weaver uh last
name is w-i-e b as in boy ER
I was just saying to this teacher don't
hate me
um so I one of the challenges about
coming and speaking is that if you side
with PPS on some things all of a sudden
it feels like you're against teachers
and I just want to start by saying I am
not against teachers I absolutely want
the best for them
I want them to pay be paid wonderfully I
want them to have unbelievable health
benefits I want them to feel like we are
supporting them
the
um I am a parent of a second grader at
Reiki Elementary in Hillsdale
and uh
I appreciate our teachers my daughter
has had fantastic teachers and I see
what they do every day with large class
sizes and it's a challenge and
oftentimes if there is not a parent in
there they cannot get done what they
need to get done
so I have also been an active member at
our school for the last being there the
last three years the last two years I
have funded or I have been the
fundraising chairperson and we have been
able to raise over a hundred thousand
dollars which is a lot of money most of
that money goes to funding a teacher
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with that money we still have four three
full grades that are 30 plus kids most
of them are 30 and 32 kids in a
classroom
so my challenge when I hear about what's
going on is in order for
PBS to meet the desires of the teachers
union then what does that mean for our
kids because is that going to mean that
now I'm going to actually end up with
less teachers because I'm having to take
funds
that would be helpful to get more
teachers in the classrooms but now
because of these demands I'm going to
end up with even less and I can tell you
as someone who works tirelessly
um to raise money
it is so defeating to then oh we got all
this money we can get a teacher and we
just lost two
so you're always in the negative and
you're it is takes the wind out of you
and so this is not about not wanting the
best but I don't get it like when I see
it on paper and I do the math you can't
have both and so that's why I'm just
pleading with you to consider how do we
do this and maybe it's to say look we we
just can't afford this and and then how
do we get to where we can
work together and and get what everybody
wants but that is as apparent my fear is
we're just on this sliding scope or
sliding uh Hill of always having to dip
into that barrel and cut teachers
foreign
good evening my name is Teresa Seeley
s-e-e-l-e-y I've been a school
psychologist for 23 years and employed
with PBS since 1998. I'm going on my
15th year with the district my
assignments for the majority of my
employment has been a combination of
Education options programs sometimes as
much as 20 at a time as well as a
comprehensive K-8 school
I mean meaning I am considered to be a
strong talented and versatile school
psychologist who can handle our toughest
population of students last March the
school board decided
that for the first time to non-renew my
contract
so I am here today to give my citizen
comment because I wasn't aware that I
had that opportunity I'd like to share
some of the reasons being used by The
District administration for this
recommendation to the board
during this present school year as of
October I've been on an indefinite paid
administrative leave for two reasons
in June of Last Summer the 21st I
attended a DHS status hearing for two
students I know through my work with PBS
because their grandmother slash foster
parent asked me to go for with her for
moral support I was there of my own
volition but was asked to address the
court by the judge which was
coincidental as speaking up was not my
intention for being there
I was accused of over-representing
myself and being there on behalf of PPS
without authorization which is not true
the second reason is because I wouldn't
agree to finish an evaluation early last
spring because I didn't think I could
give an other existing demands I had
nine days remaining in that building and
I had other open evaluations that I
needed to finish when I later updated
staff and told others that I could be
ready by to me on results by the Year's
End I was accused of being
uncollaborative
for not agreeing up front to rush the
referral two years ago in 2011 I was
harassed for providing counseling to a
general education student the
administrator usurped my role with the
family and the student for no good
reason the job description of a school
of psychologist includes work with both
General Ed and special education
students I had written permission it was
not disrupting the school day for the
student there was good reason for it and
I had a caseload of general education
students that I regularly worked with in
the same building in 2011 in 2011 and
2012 I was reprimanded for Distributing
to the Special Education team relevant
research-based articles to read and
consider related to complex and
difficult decisions we were in charge of
but having conflict over and this
professional consultation is cited by
the same administrator as an act of me
bullying my colleagues in 2012 I was
harassed for driving two students to
school which I'd been doing for about a
year when I was reprimanded the single
parent of five asked me for help with
transportation for different reasons the
bus wasn't an option and there was no
means for a car for this family
last year I was harassed for talking
with a parent on the sidewalk outside of
the school at the parents request
this same administrator accused me of
gossiping and not having a professional
reason for talking with the parent
despite knowing we had a professional
and personal reason to be engaged in
conversation
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thank you
moving on to the next item on our agenda
the draft resolution for full High
School master plan will now have a
discussion of the draft resolution for
the full High School master plan
superintendent Smith would you like to
introduce this item
um I would and I'd like to introduce Jim
Owens who and we're going to hear first
about the Roosevelt master plan and then
and we hear from that team and then
second we'll hear from the Franklin
folks about the Franklin plan so Jim
is that
well thank you superintendent Smith and
good evening board
tonight
we have the opportunity to present two
Master plans in a consecutive matter in
your board packets you'll find the
superintendent's recommendations for
both High School Master plans and we'd
like to walk you through it very quickly
the material and provide some context
joining me tonight in the first
presentation for Roosevelt is office of
school modernization Project Director
Michelle platter and Michelle is joined
by Lauren McConaughey who's a principal
with visetti Architects a local
Architecture Firm here in Portland
Oregon
they'll walk us through the slides and
after they're complete we'll invite any
questions or comments that you may have
and then we'll bring the Franklin team
up next and we'll go through a similar
presentation concluding with any
questions or comments in two weeks we
expect to return on the 26th of December
to get your uh your 16th rather I'm
sorry to get your uh
final vote if you will on the on the
resolution for adoption
so with that Michelle
we thought we would start out with a
discussion of the master plan and how it
works into all the phases of a project
we are right now just finishing up the
master plan this is what you have before
you but the master plan is just a
component of a larger design process the
master plan is actually considered
pre-design it's the basic layout of the
spaces the next phase is schematic
design which we will be moving into with
the approval of our master plan and then
the last of the design phases are design
development and construction documents
those will be the last phases after
which we'll be able to go out to bid and
begin construction of the project
just for clarification we wanted to
identify the master plan components what
a master plan does is first identify the
working parameters for the project
it gives us the opportunity to look at
the building and understand all of the
issues that are needed to be addressed
in this existing facility we develop
functional adjacencies of the program
area which means basically just putting
things in the right places and we
confirm that the overall development was
within the parameters of the district's
budget
we do not detail individual rooms or
programs this comes later so when we
talk about specific spaces how large
they are or what spaces in particular
are going to be within the project
that's a part of the schematic design
phase
we do require additional Community input
as we go through this process and the
master plan generally provides us with
the big picture so that the design
process can begin
we want to start by talking about the
Roosevelt High School and I do want to
say that we could not have gotten to
where we are without the dag members who
have helped us through this process some
of whom are here in the audience tonight
and what we started out with since May
when we took this project on to November
2013. in may we created the design
Advisory Group September we started
working with our design team we had
community and stakeholder engagement all
the way from July through November
this November we just put in for our
request for proposal for the
construction services and we expect the
cmgc that's the construction manager
general contractor to join our design
team in January of 2014 so we'll have a
full project team to take us through the
next steps of the project
this December we anticipate board
approval of the master plan and commence
schematic design phase next
our next steps as we said is to start
schematic design in March we'll be
developing the phasing plan for the
Roosevelt High School we want to
complete that prior to June so that we
can engage the teachers and the staff at
Roosevelt High School to get through
that process we'll move on to design
development construction documents over
the next year
and then we plan to commence
construction March of 2015 with final
occupancy still on schedule for
September 2017.
and with that I'm going to leave it to
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Lauren McConaughey and he'll talk you
through the rest of the process thanks
Michelle and good evening the first
image before you is some of the themes
that are basically a consolidation of
some of the visioning master planning
and gold discussions that have taken
place within the community within our
dag group as well as district-wide these
become the lens by which we ask are is
the design meeting the needs of the
specific school and the district as a
whole
we have had a host of meetings and
here's sort of a grouping of these
various meetings that we've had working
with the community working with the dag
group having open houses discussing with
teachers administrators all of these
were occurring at the same time as an
existing conditions analysis basically a
due diligence of what is this historic
building what aspects can be kept and
and remodeled as we move forward
these next group of slides that Michelle
is powering through here are some of the
options that were looked at in the
process of moving toward a preferred
scheme
we looked at varying elements of the
program we looked at the ReUse of
aspects of the campus as I'm sure you
recall this this campus needs to be
continuously occupied while we're
restoring the some of the historic
structures so it was important to really
explore a wide variety of opportunities
as as we looked at how to take on this
campus the preferred master plan as you
see in front of you I'll do a quick
orientation for this first of all North
is up you'll notice that the uh this the
site slopes actually from south to North
and as you look at the more Vivid
coloring you can tell which ground plane
you're adjacent to the the preferred
plan keeps the 1920s building here is
the front door and the main lawn of the
existing School 1920s building the 1930s
Auditorium space as well as the 1950s
gym as basic historic elements of this
campus that will be revitalizing and
adding to
one of the really exciting aspects of of
where we got to in terms of some of the
preferred schemes was this notion of
connecting Roosevelt together what one
of the things we heard over and over
again as the school is fairly disparate
in fact they literally have to close and
lock doors between classes so you can't
get in some buildings as part of the
safety of this school so the new scheme
looks at what we've called a distributed
Commons this purple space that connects
the varying elements of Roosevelt and
becomes that critical Center that
connector that ties the varying academic
and social programs together to become a
whole school place
we'll be using the 1920s buildings for a
series of academic
administrative as well as social
wraparound Services the existing
Auditorium we're looking at converting
into a library It's a Wonderful space
but not really terribly good for
performance right now and will make a
great Library
the gym will remain and we'll be adding
some gymnasium space adjacent to it as
well as a new addition that is
performing in Visual Arts to the north
of the existing campus all connected by
this exciting Commons that becomes a
place that's both social it's for
differentiated learning a small
Amphitheater is some of the spaces that
we anticipate in that so much more to
come
and this is a quick overview of the
campus from a
bird's eye view here you can see the
historic buildings and this purple is
the distributed Commons that again links
and connects these spaces the yellow is
some of the additions to the physical
education program and the brown is the
Arts both Visual and Performing Arts on
the North End of the campus
and with that we'll field any comments
comments questions about Roosevelt
um
director Buell where's the 6000
Makerspace
the six yes can we enhanced elective
spaces haven't been specifically defined
yet we're still working on that that'll
be a part of the schematic design to
actually get in and really recline where
those spaces are and how they
interconnect with the other spaces
within the school
give the open house one concept that was
there was that they would be in the far
upper left-hand corner of the Performing
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Arts Complex they could be and then that
provided access for large projects and
and material delivery so that was I
think one possibility for that yes and
that still is one of the kind yeah I had
a question about the commons do you know
yet or is that part of the the more
detailed design work to come whether the
commons will be partly or fully covered
or how that was a sort of an Atrium
effect the common space that you see is
an interior space everything is in the
within the purple is interior sometimes
it's single story and sometimes it's
two-story volume okay but it is all
interior there's a courtyard in the back
um I think Lauren if you could point to
that
and that that would be an open outdoor
Courtyard that opens onto the commons
okay because it's hard I don't have a
good visual sense because it would look
like it was going to be sort of an open
almost an Atrium feel in some ways that
you could see from the historic building
down into it and having a variety of it
just sounded really cool but it's just
so exciting to see it unfold and then I
think you'll is it still
um the possibility that there would be
this alternative entrance with
wraparound services on the lower right
hand corner yes that is the plan so
Community Services using Community
Access through there which is an I just
parking back to the open house which was
really fun
um that just sounded like a really
exciting feature as well
some of the wrap around services in the
school will be maintaining that exterior
entrance but we also have a greater
connectivity from the interior of the
school as well right
other comments or questions for
Roosevelt
I just wanted to add thanks to the
design Advisory Group and the citizens
and community members who have stepped
up to help it's really it's just so
exciting it's just
I can't wait
thank you thank you
okay next up to bat
is our Franklin team
and I'd like to introduce to my
immediate right Debbie Pearson who's the
osm Project Director on the Franklin
project and she's joined by
Karina Rez who is an associate principal
with tawa IBI group and they'll walk us
through a similar presentation for
Franklin and point out timelines and
point out the the site plan for for the
Franklin side Debbie
good evening
um as you know both Franklin and
Roosevelt are on a similar time schedule
so the first June to November Milestone
dates that you see here are very similar
to Roosevelt High School we established
the design Advisory Group we commenced
with a design in July and then held a
series of community stakeholder
engagement meetings from July to
November and as you know the RFP for the
construction management general
contractor Services is out on the
streets and we look to get board
approval on that the master plan here in
December
in for the next three months after we
have the schematic or pardon me the
master plan approved we'll move into
schematic design from January to March
and from April to June will continue for
the next year to develop the design
development and construction documents
one difference between the rules and
developed high school project and
Franklin High School is that we will in
fact be moving our staff and students to
Marshall during the duration of the
construction so we planned from June of
2014 to January of 2015 to do
Renovations at the Marshall High School
campus in preparation for the students
and staff moving over there in June of
2015.
we will be holding tours at the Marshall
the renovated Marshall High School
campus from January of 2015 to June of
2015 and then in June of 2015 we will
relocate everybody from Franklin over to
Marshall and then start the construction
at marshall in July
so thank you very much
um similarly you'll kind of hear a
repeat of what happened at Roosevelt
because we followed a fairly similar
trajectory
um our sort of guiding principle moving
forward was that we wanted to provide
21st Century Learning space in an
historic setting that's kind of what has
driven us we talk about old wine and new
bottles but um essentially the desire
that we had was to merge the school
district's Vision with what was
specifically highlighted for Franklin so
the points that you see here are the
pieces of that Vision that the Franklin
Community felt best
best allocated what their resources were
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so for example they wanted independent
and self-directed Learners and then that
they there there was a real strong push
for Equity they wanted a rigorous course
offering and state-of-the-art facility
and to ensure that all of that was made
available to all of the students and
staff
um so Lauren talked a little bit about
this but essentially the due diligence
phase ourselves and our 13 different
firms that that comprised our design
team I like to say that we've been over
under and around Franklin we've been in
the tunnels we've been up on lifts to
ensure that we have a really deep
understanding of the building and and
pieces of it that we anticipate we were
going to reuse that way we are better
informed to figure out what pieces
belong in there and how we can support
those from a cost perspective
um so the the plan that you see in front
of you came from the entrix study that
the district had done I think in 2009
and really kind of guided a lot of what
our community felt had value
the buildings highlighted in red and in
dashed with yellow have been deemed as
contributing to the historic Fabric and
so those buildings we propose Remain
the green buildings and the boiler
building we met with the state historic
preservation office and they agreed that
those buildings perhaps didn't have that
same level of significance and so in the
schemes that we envisioned we talked
about potentially keeping those or
demolishing them and you'll see kind of
different versions of those in the plans
that you see before you
um
we had really just a fantastic time
meeting with our design Advisory Group
our students our staff we had well over
a thousand voices represented
um from students we met we had the
pleasure of meeting with about 350
students in one setting and then
following up with them and that was a
really fantastic experience and so we
wanted to thank not only the dag but the
administrators and the board members
that have joined us and the community
and administration and staff at Franklin
because without this without them this
would not be possible
um similarly we ran through a series of
multiple options you'll see kind of some
some different versions that we explored
at the time but I I would say that the
community has spoken with a fairly clear
and a fairly loud voice that this is
their preferred scheme so I'll walk you
through it fairly quickly
the the biggest
aspect of this plan is that the existing
square field and track that that
currently exists in this area is turned
90 degrees
primarily because the way that it's
currently set up it really bifurcates
the site
um to a real athletic complex and then
an academic complex and the the
circulation from students that currently
are in a gym here to get to facilities
here for the field and also to
facilities that are currently here for
weights is really quite cumbersome so
this plan what you see are the areas in
Gray are the existing buildings that are
going to remain and the new buildings
this is an athletic complex we have a
fine performing and applied Arts and
Technology Center
and we have a student common Student
Center both here and in an Atrium in the
um the existing South Courtyard
to look at that in a little bit greater
detail from a planned perspective again
you start to see at the lower level so
one of the aspects of the site is that
it dips almost 20 feet from the basement
level here to the to the level of the
field and so we're able to provide
really at the basement level the main
gym and locker rooms that can come out
directly onto the field and then in the
basement we you can see some general
education classrooms and some service
space in the new student center
then on the main level of the gym you
see the gym was below this is an
auxiliary gym some support functions
this Gap that you see here is because
there's an easement that we have to
respect with the city for existing
utilities that run under the field
the existing building will be primarily
the lower level will be primarily admin
and counseling and wraparound Services
we also will be repurposing our
Auditorium for a media center
building a new student center I'm
connected to try to take some of those
exterior historic facades and turn those
into interior features and then we build
a new Performing Arts Center that really
is sort of the the community beacon on
the corner of 52nd and Woodward
currently we're showing our maker space
in the junction between the science and
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math wing and the fine and Performing
Arts however as Michelle described
earlier we're still in the process of
identifying exactly where those enhanced
electives will be held
and finally on the on the second floor
plan you see it's the majority of the
plan is
um is general education classrooms we're
able to create sort of a really Dynamic
two-story Library space within the
confines of that Auditorium and then
also creates in two storage spaces to
create some of that vertical continuity
that the kids talked about wanting to be
able to feel connected throughout their
school
so you'll see here that again we start
to create this Athletic Complex that's
directly adjacent to the gym a new
Performing Arts Complex on the corner of
52nd and Woodward and then a fairly
light and transparent
um student Commons that really acts like
a student street it's not the main
dining area but really A Place to gather
and study for the students that greets
you as you walk in the front door
remember any questions
any questions Dr Bill
the six thousand square feet on that
Makerspace
is that the amount that you have
projected
I have one of the
where is the parking for the
uh
opening Arts
where does that show up so if you got
the Performing Arts coming out this way
right
so the so that's the parking and you
interrupt from where
what we're proposing is a one-way Loop
to come in off of taggard and then
continue into the parking lot and then
one way out of Clinton if you're
familiar with a site right now people
come in and out of Clinton and it's a
one-way very tight Corner that you come
as almost a blind Corner coming into
Clinton this plan or reorganizes that
and does a one-way loop from Taggart in
through the parking lot and out of
Clinton
how many cars in that parking I mean how
many
how many people in the Performing Arts
Center for say a play
oh the program area is set up for
600 600 600 and so how many cars does
that come out to
that parking lot itself has about 130
spaces 130 correct we got 600 and 130
so yeah but I mean is that I mean is
that a typical projection thing that
you've looked at and said uh there's
enough cars uh the as far as the parking
requirements for the city are concerned
that I don't know I don't know I don't
know the answer to my own question this
is one of the questions that I'm asking
without knowing the answer in terms of
the parking requirements on site the
city has different regulations
associated with Transportation
requirements if you're within a certain
distance of transportation from TriMet
Etc you can reduce the number of parking
spaces on site so the parking spaces
that are on site are really more to do
with trying to support staff that are on
site during the school day and then it's
flexible it's parking in the evening for
those whether it's Cub you know Civic
use building people that are there to
use the spaces and so during the day
those 600 are really students that are
going to attend events
correct it's the same thing as what they
do now there's parking on the street
so to be a hundred and spot for 130 cars
in the lot and then everybody else parks
in the street correct
thank you
thank you very much
um
Performing Arts basis how much space is
in that it looks it looks big and it
looks
I love Performing Arts I'm just curious
it kind of dwarfs the other the other
buildings at least in that diagram
we have about 40 000 square feet in the
Performing Art space and that was one of
the top priorities for the community is
that
and you'll see that when it comes to you
that there's a program area at spec
phase two that's coming to you in
January and that summary of all those
spaces will be coming to you for a
comprehensive high school okay okay
great and then the gymnasium
I think no the athletic part
disconnected from the school like that
was there considerations about students
going back and forth
in the weather actually no we did have
some quite a bit of discussion about it
at different dag and Community meetings
from a student's perspective they were
thrilled to have
um that it in a separate facility all
together where they could have all those
athletic facilities and they enjoy the
fact that there's a 10-minute passing
period during the course of the day they
didn't feel that there was any issue
Associated being able to get from one
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part of the campus to the other and it
really for them felt more like a
community college campus and was
treating them as adults and you know
kind of increasing their perception of
themselves on campus rather than this
tight-knit community security I was more
concerned about the weather and going
back and forth oh
stuff well there is we are thinking
about a covered walkway to connect that
thank you that's what I was looking for
that's all thank you thank you very much
so in the Roosevelt design when you look
at the baseball and softball field in
the Roosevelt design they actually
overlapped a soccer field on top of that
to allow
since soccer is a fall Sport and
baseball and softball or spring sports
are you looking at doing something
similar here or how would Howard Soccer
fit into this correct on the football
field you do have the varsity soccer
field on the football field and then up
on the baseball softball field you do
have the ability to put a soccer field
as a practice field up there as well
okay
and then I had a quick question in terms
of Marshall since the kids will be
moving into Marshall
I know that we are expecting to do some
enhancements to the Marshall campus so
would those happen next summer
and Jim can you give us some sense of
what we're talking about in terms of
Marshall enhancements or
I can't I don't remember what we're
certainly
we're currently still evaluating exactly
what we'll do there the improvements we
make at Marshall need to certainly
support the student body and staff
however we want to be mindful that we
have limited funds at all of our swing
site locations so we've identified the
the critical items that we need to do
such as roof repairs to ensure we have a
water tight Integrity across our Roof
Systems we've got other improvements
relating the other big one is the fire
alarm system our current fire alarm
system is a non-addressable non-code
compliance system so it's a key Life
Safety Improvement that's needed which
we'll be getting started with this this
winter actually January February the
work at Marshall is actually under under
Debbie's direction to ensure that the
work at Marshall is coordinated such
that the work can be completed so that
we can get families and Community out to
look look at the site to see what the
students will be
attending when they when they start
there and then of course Debbie will
also be coordinating the transition from
Marshall back to Franklin when
Franklin's completed over the summer of
2017.
tonight any other work Scopes that you
wanted to point out okay those are the
those are the big ones and we're looking
at several other uh smaller items but we
we do want to look at the swing space
for all uh for Franklin for Grant and
for Fabian which are the three schools
that we need swing sites for
the question is kind of a stupid
question I think
uh
in Franklin when we talked about it
quote was our community college type
atmosphere
and in Roosevelt we talked about locking
everything up
I mean
can you I know that the people from
Franklin camp but can you tell me what
how that
came about
what they were saying is that currently
they have to it's the way the buildings
are now
um
Roosevelt but I was hearing at the
Roosevelt intention was to have it more
seamless so that you didn't have to have
that
right that as I understand the question
director Buell is why the difference in
terms of themes how did we come about
making those I mean approaching it that
way I mean it just I mean it makes sense
to me I mean I worked in a schools my
whole life where you made sure people
couldn't get in and weren't supposed to
be there I mean absolutely should but
it just struck me as kind of
we approached them positively both ways
right I certainly would defer to my
colleague here if she wants to come up
to respond but but I think as a result
of the process that we used with the
design advisory groups and the community
forums the Roosevelt Community weighed
in in a different manner than the
Franklin community and so what they
ended up with as they went through the
different options was one that fit the
the Roosevelt Community more effectively
and that the final decisions were made
on these plans are they made there are
how did they decide in the end who made
those final decisions for this is the
one we're going to choose did they ever
come up with an actual straight up
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process that said beforehand this is how
we're going to decide as opposed to we
kind of have this
right
it was uh it was a process that involved
multiple options different scenarios
that were that were presented and then
ultimately as the design team looked at
how these could be executed in terms of
schedule in terms of budget in terms of
scope quality we landed on a preferred
alternative that you're seeing tonight
ultimately the decision to adopt these
preferred plans for both schools will be
a board decision well but I mean
to bring them these particular plans
forward to the board
what how was that decided upon was that
the design team finally after all the
actual design team sat down and said we
agree this is the one or was it
consensus or did they vote or said
people have asked me about this question
that's why I'm asking it staff and
Community the forums that we have the
work right all came together in the
design team said this is where we're
going to go correct and think of it as
as staff ultimately made the okay
and then the last question I had is one
that Mr curler asked whose absent he's
in Sacramento today asked me to ask and
he wasn't
the 10 million dollars that we lost and
then found supposed and you know the it
was for sixty thousand square feet
is how it came out right which is 166
approximately 166 dollars per square
foot
and when we had asked about
having an additional four thousand
square feet of Makerspace it came out at
in the high 300 square foot like three I
don't know was it 365 or something
389 I don't know
325. was it that low 325 I don't
remember I'm just asking a question for
curler he's in Sacramento the uh and so
the question so would you explain the
difference in those two how that came
about that was the question he asked me
to ask right it's something of a of a
nuanced message
um as we look at the cost components for
these projects we have to look at the
building hard costs the site hard costs
we have soft costs which are where we
pay our Consultants our permits we have
furniture fixture and equipment and we
have contingency and all of these are
proportionally adjusted so we haven't
actually landed on precisely what our
dollars per square foot building hard
cost is at this point we're going to
develop that through our schematic
design process so recognize that in
addition to what we presented in terms
of the building sizes and the 60 000
square foot difference we're also going
to be adding construction escalation
dollars to the projects so the square
footage information really won't be
something that we can accurately
represent to you until we come back
again with the schematic design packages
so I know that's it's it's a difficult
message it's very nuanced but the way we
go about estimating it we we're looking
at our 220 dollar per square foot uh
building hard cost factor pre-escalated
that went into all of these all of these
improvements and so what I had shared in
the way of an email to the board several
weeks ago was a summary of how the
square footage changed from our
from our Ed spec adjusted bond to now
our our new sizes remember we're
accommodating more students under these
options and so the square footage
increases and then how that reflects on
cost per square foot has changed
thank you
so I noticed that you put Administration
in the Council on Spaces in the more
Central entrance and I think that's
really good for you know day-to-day
operationals reasons and also security
reasons and I was wondering for your
other entrances and exits do you have
any systems in place to monitor those
things or you know other counseling
administration offices or
there will be
there at all of the Comprehensive High
Schools there'll be a series of access
controls and video surveillance in
addition to that yes there will be
teaching stations and or other
program areas that will help to deal
with security issues as you're talking
about great thanks
I'll just I'll just make one final
comment because I got to join these fine
folks through this process and it's been
just so fantastic when I hear director
buell's questions I can't obviously
speak for the Roosevelt about how
decisions were made but I'm assuming it
takes a similar but it was just so clear
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from the groups that I got to work with
that this was the preferred option that
it really brought it brought a factor of
wow and practicality and functionality
that was really really exciting to the
community including everything from the
students saying when they get off the
bus on 52nd Avenue
they have to walk like it's this kind of
mass kids kind of scatter and how do
they get into the building now they're
going to have this clear access this
entrance right into the building out of
the weather they were really excited
about the athletic facilities and this
idea of
connecting having the commons and the
media center
it was just really exciting so I just
want to think and really truly the
Administration has been tireless in
their support and their presence and
availability and access to students and
community so thank you to them and it's
just been really exciting so
thank you any other questions comments
to talk about the resolution
now would be the great time to talk
about the resolutions themselves so
first of all just
so chair belisle said I think also in
the Roosevelt group we probably looked
at six to eight different scenarios and
we did the you know stickers on which
ones we liked and the whole thing and I
think there was a pretty strong
consensus also with the Roosevelt group
on where we landed so it was it felt
pretty good
um one quick question again I had a
conversation with director curler about
this who is
probably not going to make it to this
meeting tonight there's a question about
the enhanced elective space and we keep
being told that that's a discussion for
a later time and I know for some of us
that doesn't feel
like it's enough and so I think that he
is looking at the possibility of coming
up with a another recital or something
in terms of the resolution that
indicates an interest in making sure
that the enhanced elective space the CTE
space is substantial enough to allow for
a robust program relatively robust
program in each of our high school so I
just wanted to let you know he I'll work
on it with him but we're going to try to
get that out as quickly as possible as a
potential amendment to this and again
it's just stating an intention of the
board that this is a priority for us
finding because I think I think
information like that Tom shared out
sent out was based on a premise of
requiring a certain level of a variety a
whole range of programs and that would
be a question that is you know it's up
for a question so I think
you know I guess I'll just be interested
to see what you guys proposed in terms
of how specific it is because I'm not
necessarily ready to say we must to say
that there has to be that specific range
of multiple programs offered at each
Comprehensive High School because I
think going into this that was our
understanding that we weren't going to
be able to do that with all our
Comprehensive High School so but I think
when we started our conversations we
didn't have the 6000 figure in the 6000
figure too many of us feel small so
rather than vote no on these we'd like
to have some intentionality from the
board if the board if we can get four of
us to vote on that we would like to have
some intentionality from the board that
says we believe that each high school
should have
substantive CTE space and that that
would be
part of what our expectations are going
forward as they go through the
schematics so
great thank you thank you all for being
here this evening
now I'm going to move on to a discussion
of the priorities for budget for the
2014-15 budget
I'll throw a couple disclaimers in front
of this this is not a budget proposal
this is an exercise it is simply
um a way to force us to talk and think
about the budget choices we're going to
be making so that staff and the
superintendent can begin to hear how we
process this information
um with that superintendent Smith can
you introduce the item
um yep I will introduce David Wine who's
our Deputy Chief Financial Officer to
introduce us to this activity and I'll
also throw in a few
um
just introductory remarks so as coach
Arbor Lyle just outlined this is not
specific budget proposals this is really
an in a beginning stage to our budget
process and it's trying to give you
enough specificity about the kinds of
things we'll be considering as part of
the budget process to let you dig in and
see where your values lie in terms of
what drives you in budget decisions but
not these do not represent the actual
proposal so this is really an
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opportunity for us to get to listen to
you make sense of and prioritize and
tell you what drives your your thoughts
as we're entering a budget process
so with that so we're gonna we're gonna
pop you back up if you start heading
down into the weeds so we're not looking
at we're not looking at this the
specific granular nature of each one of
the proposals but more the values
underlying them okay so be prepared for
the pop-ups and with that I will turn
you over to David blind thank you
superintendent Smith coach Apple Isle
board members I'm David Wine the budget
director and with me is Sarah bottomley
who's the assistant budget director who
in addition to helping answer questions
is also going to take notes so we can
keep track of the discussion tonight I
also wanted to recognize that we have a
number of members of the citizens budget
Review Committee with us who
specifically came to listen to this
tonight so I'm going to ask them to um
stand up and introduce themselves those
who are here
good evening my name is
Roger kirschner Tom Fuller
so we thank them for coming
so we are essentially at the beginning
of the budget development process for
2014-15
and it will be helpful for the
superintendent and staff to know budget
priorities from our board from our
community and our stakeholders we've
held a number of meetings with some
groups and asked them about items we
should be considering as you know from
the information in your board packet and
in Prior years we've asked the board to
affirm its priorities by with reference
to this strategic framework and we've
also heard lists of ideas from you that
are of interest and value
our priority-based budgeting process
continues to evolve and we modify it
based on context and our experience
and we are in a different Financial
climate than prior years with the
possibility of being in a net investment
position and not a net deficit driving
us to look for cuts and reductions
and it's the second year of the biennium
so we do have a clearer sense of our
Revenue
so we added something new this year
which and we developed this
prioritization exercise we've asked you
to allocate points among a number of
opportunities and as the superintendent
said this is an exercise the opportunity
we've described are not formal budget
proposals this isn't even an exhaustive
list of all of the ideas under
consideration
and most of these are things that are
still the subject of continuing staff
work
we intended these options to be
representative of the kind of things
that might come up and not of specific
activities the values we attach to them
are artificial and to the extent that
any of these survive the budget
development process and make their way
forward they are likely to look
different than we described them they'll
certainly be more detail and the value
is attached to them will be more
specific and will be dollars
so having said all that it would
certainly be helpful We Believe for the
superintendent and staff to hear you
talk through the choices you have made
and perhaps identify the underlying
values or interests that inform those
choices so I'm going to invite board
members to take turns in doing that and
that's essentially the first two
questions we asked you in that board
memo
then certainly there'll be an
opportunity for more General discussion
then there was a couple more questions
we asked you like what's missing and are
there things that are currently finally
do you think we should be reevaluating
so we'd get to that maybe after we've
sort of run through the whole thing and
then towards the end I can confirm some
of the next steps in terms of key dates
and what else we think we might do with
this exercise
so with that
it's going to offer that invitation to
you to
to share your thinking with us so we'll
probably do this one at a time if we we
don't have to move quickly because again
staff want to hear kind of our thought
process and how we got to the decisions
we made
but is there somebody who would like to
start us walk us through their
their point totals and how they got to
that and what they
came up with as their values or pulled
them
but I'll tell you where my values are
okay if you want me to do Point tolls
I'll have to wait
I have two two basic values one I think
we should shift as much money as we
possibly can into the classroom
and the second value is that we should
support beyond anything else other than
the classroom wrap around programs that
directly affect
children there's a direct connection
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with the child and the wraparound
program and that's
that's where I go after you lay a
foundation you lay the foundation first
and then you go to those two spots in in
the foundation means all kids are in
school all day and so forth that typical
stuff and then you go from there and all
the money that you possibly can you move
there
thank you
somebody starts off the point totals
so if you have your finals if you just
want to go down I picked this one I
picked this one because this really
spoke to me or I didn't pick this one
because while I like it well yeah I mean
I I had a couple sort of higher level
questions
I was sort of attended a course first
off it was lovely to have the difficult
choices of what to add rather than
difficult choices of what to take out so
and thank you for the lovely spreadsheet
that was um great
um so
I generally was sort of a sprinkling of
ones and twos in most places but not all
and I will get to some detail so I'm
just saying that in general but I also
have just sort of you know the wariness
of adding on new initiatives
um for sure so there's a few of those
that sounded new so it was a question
knowing that we're early stages that's
one of my concerns wanting to know more
how sure are we what's you know that
kind of that kind of concern and then
even in terms of expanding things that
we I feel I think you'll come to us and
say are pretty proven programs like AVID
for example just in making sure that our
capacity as a district is there to roll
them out successfully and to expand the
Fidelity the implementation so obvious
points but I just wanted to make those
up front because
um all of this is with that caveat right
so totally understood and accepted on
our part and the fact that you
prioritize something here we are not
taking as a blanket endorsement that
means it's automatically in the budget
so we totally get that right and there's
yeah so
um on the Athletics I was at the option
one that's maintaining the current
expansion that the superintendent did
this fall
so I think that's one that's on all of
these obviously I would love to do the
full meal deal and Beyond but so that's
so I think that's a reasonable given all
the other needs we have to keep that new
investment is important or renewed
investment Avid expansion I hover
between option two and option three
again that expansion Fidelity question
because to me that's totally proven in
an essential program really excited to
expand that
career related learning and college
readiness I was just not I want to hear
more from all the high school ones about
except for Avid which I feel very
strongly about
what the recommendation of the high
school action team is and how where are
really the highest leverage strategies
going to be I'm not convinced that
personalized learning plans is it so I
want to hear more about that before so I
have man at this this point doesn't mean
that couldn't change
Central support capacity infrastructure
I was either at a one option one or two
on that depending on which positions it
would be
I definitely regret for example that we
cut the Ombudsman I think restoring
that's really important there are other
pieces in the examples list that I
thought would be really but just the
general concept of yes we do need more
capacity at central office to support
schools
we've been cutting and cutting
classified staff in schools I had a
question there you added back this fall
are you assuming at this point is this
to enable that to continue or is that
going to continue and this would be an
addition to this would be an addition to
okay thanks so I'm not so sure about
that one again knowing how important
that is but given the other options that
was one that didn't pop up as much for
me assuming that this Falls additional
expansion would continue which it would
culturally specific support similar
question
where and how much and I'm I'm on the
fence about that one so at this point I
don't have I feel like with the supports
we have in place are excellent ones in
the Partnerships but it also seems like
some of these other pieces would get to
that so
um
the way I did the points at this point
it didn't come in
custodians and deferred maintenance I
ended up
um God these are just such Sophie's
choices but I went with the option two
of deferred maintenance thinking that
that might lighten the load of the
custodians if the buildings aren't
falling around
them
falling apart around them so I went with
that
discipline reduction strategies I went
with either option two or three
um again how quickly can we roll it out
and how well can we roll it out but I
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feel this is a high priority for sure
early learner Regional centers
absolutely support
um
creating an Early Learning Center at
Clarendon and we're using that building
and the Foster site but I didn't go for
the even though Early Learning is so
crucial and I'm really excited about the
potential of that model I didn't go for
option three again because of the
Fidelity of expansion and concern about
are we going to be able to should we do
one pilot make sure we're doing it well
and then roll it out but I would be on
all of these I could be talked out of
them because these are all important
early kindergarten similar thing one I
went between option one and option two
because I was a little wary of a really
quick roll out
that we might not do as well versus the
more gradual one
High School graduation and acceleration
strategies I'm on the fence till I hear
what those are and what the team
recommends something around this but I
don't know yet what yet so I'm not I'm
in a one or a two there
I'm sorry to say I skipped over the
literacy literacy materials
if I heard more detail I might be talked
back into that but given that things are
so up in the air in terms of the digital
curriculum it seemed to me that maybe we
could given the other possibilities for
investment wait that one out
middle level support at K-8 so this is
one where for years I've been harping on
how we're not providing full supports
for six to eight students but I would
need to know the context here of what
are we
what size schools and what exactly are
we proposing because I think
um
part it's a feature not a bug of k8s
that you don't necessarily have a full
range of electives my biggest concern is
that we have the core program and
um I think what the big fault in the
district enrolling at the caves was not
fully explaining those differences and
not planning well to provide a cade
program with Fidelity and the facilities
are required and so on and so forth as
we've heard over and over for years but
this is one where I'd I'd need to know
more because I'm concerned if we have
with that we are
we can't a we cannot provide a full
middle school program
at the caves
and because it's just not that's not
what it is it's okay it is a different
type of program and B I'd want to hear
what are the
what are we doing to make sure we have a
strong nfk program regardless of just
um choosing more money into so that's
more discussion needed there
so just to clarify you did you didn't
pick any of those um at this point I
haven't okay I'm gonna need more
information about what that means
online or Blended learning
that's something we've been harping
about for years I I went on option one
or two
there outdoor school yes please
knowing that you know I'm worried that
it's going to continue to be year to
year whether we can afford to support
the full five days but given if we have
any extra resources that's a priority
for me to restore that to the full five
days
student technology questions about that
I have just larger questions about what
what's our kind of our inventory both
inference of computers and also things
like smart boards
I have just an anecdotal sense which
maybe is not true at all but just the
sense that there's quite a bit of
Technology maybe in Title One schools
and wealthier schools I'm not sure about
the schools in between and what do we
have
so that's just kind of need more
information but definitely see that we
need to make sure that there's Equity
there and some level of so I'm I guess
somebody between an option one and
option two on that one of the big
question mark
teacher managers is awesome and I'm I
couldn't come down to depend on how my
other ones and twos added up whether
that was a one two or three definitely
want to expand again the question of how
quickly and well can we expand that
yeah yeah and then the wraparound
Services now if you added a
I'm in there somewhere yeah oh you're
doing it right there I don't even have
my glasses on
what made it difficult is you in a
number of cases you said I'm between one
and two so yeah now whether to give you
one and a half or you know yeah two and
a half coming to the exercise
wrap around I mean each of these was
around 300 000 each per unit
right there isn't a dollar value we just
we tried to come up with a proximate
weights because some things are going to
be more expensive but there wasn't a
pure dollar value attached to these
which is okay well anyway
um and then the wrap around services
that one is one or again where I'd like
to have a larger conversation because
this is something where it feels like to
me with the Healthcare System reforms
there should be Downstream savings that
other systems are seeing and I guess
what I'm saying is we should not
necessarily be paying for the what we
absolutely need which is more support
services for our kids and I'm wondering
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if there isn't a conversation to be had
at the county and Beyond with the health
care system that the governor you know
should be helping with in other words if
you have if you have preventive care
at an early at an early stage for
children you're going to have you're
going to save costs down the line so
that's just a larger philosophical
assistant question I have
um
to whether how to what degree the school
district should be funding that versus
other parts of the system but in a way
um so that I left that one off at this
point just because I wanted to
understand more about that but
absolutely see the need for more
services so sorry I'm not giving you a
precise number here but knowing that
this is not an actual proposal
oh sorry let me just look at my notes
Here see if there's anything else really
quick let everyone else talk now did you
did you put something on teacher mentors
I was either one two or three let's say
two let's say three but again given that
we're gonna expect that we're going to
expand that well I don't want to do
things unless we're going to do it right
um
and then the big missing question for
you and maybe this is assumed but we
need to we'll be hearing more about this
I assume is this
um professional development and
materials and support to implement
Common Core State Standards and where
that's going to come into the budget
because that's a big chunk
thank you very much that's thank you
okay really helpful sure
sounds good
okay first of all thank you for the
exercise
David this is this was um interesting to
do and
I like I liked it
I hope it works for
us time
um so just some general things that I
was thinking of as I was going through
these one is
um
putting more money toward
more teachers smaller class sizes that
kind of thing and support for teachers
and then I also looked for early
intervention especially if it was
beginning around kindergarten I'm not as
interested in the early early I think
our mandate is K-12 and that's where I
like to see us work spend spend our
funds and do our work
um also I was interested in caring for
our physical assets
and investing in successful programs
and I think like
um Ruth not not looking for new things
for us to do but to invest in the things
that have been successful for us with
students in the past and then um
also is interested in Partnership
opportunities that are bringing money
into our schools so there's one in here
that has to do with Partnerships and and
while it cost us money to do it it may
end up bringing more to us in the end so
I'm interested in that kind of stuff so
my numbers
um On Athletics
I think this is very important
that we have trainers in our schools
where our students are involved in
athletics
um
one of the are you writing questions
down too so one of the questions I had
around that was are these trainers uh
full-time in the school all the time or
are they there for
example for PE classes or are they just
there for sports after school
um
and then the development program for
feeder schools I that's one of those new
things and I'm questioning whether it
would make sense for us to do that given
whether we would be able to continue it
and and some of the programs that have
taken over to provide those kinds of
opportunities for students that are not
driven by us so I think I had I had a
one there
Avid expansion I love Avid
um
it's one of our successful programs
although I was trying to figure out what
the success rate was so one of the
things that we should probably discuss
at a meeting is AVID and how it's
working in our school so I gave that a
three
career related learning and college
readiness you know CTE have always been
a strong supporter but what is being
suggested in this doesn't really sound
much like CTE to me and so I did not
fund that I'm just I didn't understand
where it was going
um
Central support capacity and
infrastructure absolutely we need
um more support at central office so we
can provide more support for our schools
and also uh I think this is where the
support for Partnerships development
would be
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and I also agreed with Ruth on the
Ombudsman I think that's something that
we shouldn't have cut last year and we
definitely need to bring back
and also our capacity to secure grant
funding is one of the things that you
listed in there which I also think is
very important
so what level did you pick on that one
hang on I'm looking here a three
classified staff in schools I went with
a three on that one as well
again it's that's adding 51 FTE and I
think that we can use a lot more
classified staff both in helping our
teachers in the classroom and in our
support administrative support in our
schools so we can do more
to provide teachers with more time with
students
on culturally specific supports I put my
notes Here says see Partnerships I'm
thinking that's more where that
um
where we would would do that kind of
work I did not put any points there
on custodians
um I whoops
just went away custodians was a two
again and uh deferred maintenance I did
not put the staff I did not put um
any points there I kind of lumped the
two together and made it a two
my question on that was
um how is the the Deferred maintenance
different from custodians
and then where's the money to do the
work
for the Deferred maintenance if we have
the custodians or we so
it's not just bodies
discipline reduction strategies
kind of crossed was it two
but again that's one of those things
that I'd love to hear the latest success
of those programs so I know we had
had a report out from them I think
earlier in the fall but I'd love to hear
more information on that one
early learner Regional centers
I gave that I did not put any points
there and that's again I just think that
that's outside of the K-12 mission
but on the other hand early kindergarten
transition programs
again how successful are those what's
the difference between the schools where
we currently are having those kinds of
programs and where we don't
what's the difference at third grade so
do the students retain what they're
getting before they come into
kindergarten
um and I gave that
a one
I did not put any anything in high
school support interventions and that's
just because I
couldn't figure out what we were
actually asking for there so it's one of
those ones where I would need more
information before I would put dollars
behind it
literacy materials
I chose a one
the mid-level support k-8s
um I also gave that a one I couldn't
quite tell what the difference was
between option one and two
they both seemed like they were giving
support for World languages and
online Blended learning I think I was
looking for some success rates there too
what's happened thus far but I did go
ahead and
um
one
outdoor school I think needs to be
funded through the community so I did
not put any extra money there
student technology I funded it at one to
increase
the minimal technology and refresh
but I also need more information about
that and what's the useful life for the
equipment that we currently have
teacher mentors I think is a fabulous
program and I
gave that a three
and wrap around Services I
did it too
to provide the full-time secretary
to school counseling office undertake
clerical Aid administrative work so
counselors can focus their time and
energy on students kind of the same
thing around that was two same thing
similar to what uh adding classified
staff
that's it
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a couple of things before I get started
I just want to mention that that this
exercise came with a specific caveat
that we're not looking at school
Staffing ratios so if you don't hear
people talking about teachers or
increased that wasn't part of this
exercise that's going to be part of a
different exercise so I just want to
throw that out as I think about people
at home not necessarily looking at the
materials that we're looking at
um with that I just want to also note
that we were given 25 points to allocate
and after my first run through
um I had come to 74.
um
so I had a lot of trimming to do which
again is a is a better place to be than
literally cutting programs but looking
looking at how do you expand I I
mentioned that just because
um there are great things in each of
these and I Echo I Echo other directors
comments about you know some of this is
contingent on program evaluation how do
we know it's effective what does the
high school action team saying
um what are our own evaluations say so
with with those caveats some some a
couple of things that I noticed were
missing right away were things like
summer Scholars but again maybe that's
the high school action team
um and then there wasn't any mention in
here about expiring or sunsetting grants
and there's some learnings that we have
from Sig grants or other grants that I
just want to make sure we we capture or
or think about as we move on
so with that I'll try to be brief in my
comments
again knowing that a lot of these have
value
um
I found the major themes from my as I
went as I had to go from 75 points back
down to 25 I found a real relaxed and
reluctance on my part to cut High School
supports so
um Avid expansion for example got one
even though I again was curious about
program evaluation the high school
Career and Technical education well I
didn't quite know what it meant I
supported that idea as trying to figure
out if it's an important connection or
missing or struggling to make at the
high school
um
and so I'll get to that number in a
minute and then the other I did the
other end of the spectrum and I
um I appreciate director Knowles comment
about the K-12 Continuum but I really do
think our charge can start at pre-k
because those become our kindergartners
and so I when it was early childhood I
also found myself really reluctant to um
to cut that or reduce that
along with middle school I got really
excited to see Middle School supports I
thought we were going to head back shop
and a whole bunch of electives and then
I read read a little bit further and
realized that it was supports for
k-8s which is still important but I
thought we were going to do something
along with director Atkins what she was
saying is how do we offer that robust
program at the middle school because I
really do think that that students at
that level really need that um
that unique engagement at that level so
with that I put and I never did get down
to Zero by the way I'm five in the hole
but you can listen to my thinking about
how I got there Athletics important we
should continue the investment but I
didn't put any numbers there because I
had to get to zero
um Avid I gave one
um career related learning College I I
chose two option number two
Central supports I chose option number
two and that was really based off I just
continually hear people talk about
really wanting to push resources to the
classroom and I I agree with that and I
often hear the most common complaints
that I hear are supports lacking from
the central office like that it's a
one-two thing people want more teachers
and more stuff in the classroom but when
they actually complain about the
district it's some lack of support from
the central office including in the
schools
classified staff in schools I chose one
partly because of our previous
investment in that um and I had to get
to close to zero specifically cultural
supports I don't really understand
what's here it's a little confusing but
I chose three just as a value statement
of saying we still have to reinvest in
being culturally responsive whether
that's internally externally or all of
those options so I just wanted to
highlight that
um custodians custodians if I
appreciated the little Preamble you put
here about how out of sync we are with
other school districts
um about how much we expect our
custodians to actually do as far as
square footage but I didn't give it any
any ranking but again that's not that I
don't value it or don't think it's
important how to get to zero deferred
maintenance same thing I didn't choose
anything in that discipline reduction
strategies I chose one particularly
because of the scaling concerns people
had I'd like to see it roll out in a
systemic and thoughtful way not because
I think that our disparities in
discipline are okay
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but I think we have some really good
successes that we can begin to build on
Early Learning Regional centers I'm not
sure Regional centers we that's a
conversation but I do think it actually
opens us up to lots of other partnership
ideas which gets me really excited and
so I chose two for that
um option two sorry
early kindergarten transition program I
also chose option two part of that's
just that I remember director Sergeant
being really excited by that because of
the the outcomes we were getting in if
if we're not excited about pre-k this is
this is really they're three weeks away
from kindergarten so that's that's
pretty close to our our kids
um High School support interventions I
chose two
literacy materials I chose one but I
appreciate director Atkins question
about it's so up in the air but the fact
of the matter is today's kids deserve
materials and supports and teachers
deserve them today and we can't wait
until somebody figures out what the next
best thing is mid-level supports I chose
too
option two that is online Blended
learning again this still seems like a
really priority and it feels as I as I
hear different teachers experiences with
flipping the classroom I think it's
something we just need to forge ahead
with so I chose option two
outdoor school I didn't choose not
because I don't want kids to go to
outdoor school but I had to get down to
zero student technology I chose one
again this feels like just a basic
support that our students need and
deserve in today's world it doesn't feel
like an option it feels like something
we should do and again consistently I
hear of different schools talk about how
hard it is to do what they need to do
with that refresh money if they've even
gotten the refresh money so and then
teacher mentors again I support it I
supported the last budget but I didn't
give it any numbers this time same with
wraparound Services somebody that is in
a partner agency that does provide some
wraparound Services obviously a priority
but I didn't give it any priority any
numbers
so I should be about oh negative three
sweet
Dr Martin all right thank you
I'm the reason why I think teachers
sometimes grade on a curve or try to
recognize
um the uh great inflation in uh their
term grades but uh I had a hard time
um either not prioritizing or
pulling
marking down I should say items that are
that are at least important to me values
wise but I want to give you an idea of
the major themes that that we're running
through my head when going through this
one is uh how do we invest where we can
leverage other resources we do this a
lot of times with with other funding
sources the sun program is an example
other funding through uh you know
relationships with Parks is an example
relationship with with foundations with
other organizations that can bring
resources and so how do we how do we use
that as a leverage point to to bring in
additional resources to our schools and
I think the number is roughly 75 percent
of our budget is through State funding
so the other 25 is is our ability to
leverage in some of those resources
title all the title program would be
included in this too
the federal title entitlement programs
the other one is as you know on the
heels of watching uh Architects and and
our modernization folks come in and talk
about uh repairing and rebuilding
schools I really wanted to put
maintenance as a as an important piece
of of how we prioritize our resources
this year I think it's also a commitment
that we've Made In terms uh to the to
the voters and saying this is something
that if you pass this this bond this is
something that we will do we're not
going to defer maintenance in the future
we're going to take care of our
buildings and we're going to budget to
do so and I think we came up with a
budget plan during that process too
another another theme or value that came
in was how do we find ways to advance
our most underserved students I'm
including our historically underserved
our ell students our students in special
education how do we manage to bring them
along as we as we grow opportunity and
achievement we're also Bound by our
achievement Compact and these are the
same groups that we have to we have to
find ways to to Inc really find
double-digit growth over the next
several years to meet our achievement
compact stated goals
um and then you know to piggyback
something that I I wasn't necessarily
thinking of but director Buell said uh
kids in school all day so uh what does
that mean to me I think things I think
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of things like
um uh enrollment uh working in
enrollment finding ways to capture our
increase our capture rate I think of
um you know I know in the old days PPS
had truancy uh programming so helping
helping bring kids back into the schools
who were out
knowing that that their play their place
in the classroom is the most important
so so those were some of the major
themes that I was I was considering as I
was going through some of these numbers
and these won't uh be only 25 points at
the end so but I'll share with me anyway
um Athletics I put as a two or option
two
Avid option one
career related learning and college
readiness I put it just in option three
and again uh you know you speak about
how
public testimony affects decision making
this is something that I moved up after
today's comments from a Community member
and former parent or a PPS parent who
said
the kids that she valedictorians were
not prepared for for college uh and
that's something that that strikes me it
seems like it's something worth
investing
is an option one for Central supports
classified staff it was sort of an
option to going into an option one
I recuse myself from the culturally
specific supports question
uh custodians I put is an option one
deferred maintenance again as I
mentioned one of the values is uh I
would hold this high in our budget
process and and put it as an option
three
in discipline reduction strategies uh I
would have as an option three perhaps
migrating to option two because I think
there are higher Investments at the
front end of that we're talking about
cultural shifts and as those shifts
occur then we have less of a less of a
budgetary impact but more of a sustained
cultural impact
um
earn Early Learning Centers I I again I
think uh coach Eric belisle said this
the regional Center's concept is
something that is probably still up for
Up For Debate and question across the
board but
um but this is where I see our
opportunity to leverage additional
resources that are not coming through
the typical K-12 system but how do we
how do we do that use that resource in a
way that supports what we need to and uh
and create kindergarten Readiness across
our district uh early kindergarten
program which that would that was uh oh
I'm sorry did I not tell you which early
Learners option three
early kindergarten program option three
High School graduation and acceleration
strategies again as we're looking at
State I know it's probably already 25 or
more
it's again again this is
this is the best part about being on
this side of the Deus
because you've got the budget problem
um
so I know yeah so uh High School
graduation and acceleration strategies
uh I rated this as an option three as
well
um you know what no no we don't need the
peanut gallery here
but uh but primarily uh again we're
looking at we're looking at uh needing
to needing to really invest in these
solutions that are
um that are going to graduate our kids I
mean we have a 63 graduate four-year
cohort graduation right I can't think
that that would be anything less than a
high priority
um
literacy materials I would put as an
option to uh leaning towards option one
um
Middle School level supports weed
absolutely need Middle School level
supporters option three
online Blended learning I would I I'm
gonna make the call on and I'm gonna
just put that as an option one
I had it as an option too but
um
you're welcome if you did this another
17 times you might get down to 20. no no
I wouldn't uh outdoor school option one
student technology option one uh student
uh
okay and uh
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teacher mentors I would put as an option
one and then uh wrap around Services I
would put as an option three because
this is
um again uh for us to be successful with
with kids in the classroom we have to
have opportunities for us to engage with
those same kids outside of the classroom
if we don't they're not going to be
successful
we could just divide each of your points
by two and you'd be almost perfect
why don't you do that bring that back
next week director again
so I
um I think it's probably really good for
the board collectively that there
is not the first one to go yeah
I tried to look at uh two things as I
was doing this the first was what has
the highest student impact and the
second was what will positively impact
graduation rates so those were kind of
the two filters I was trying to use the
big question I had and one of the
reasons that some of these are rated
lower than you might expect given what I
just said is last year we devoted eight
percent of the budget to four percent to
uh low socioeconomics kids and four
percent to historically underserved and
I
during this budget process I want to get
an understanding of how those monies
were spent because my expectation is
they were spent on things like Avid and
things like more classified staff for
different things and
um so there's a variety of these where I
do a lower ranking because I think we
just put a whole lot of money that I
would expect went into some of these
programs so I think one of the things
I'm looking for is what was the impact
of the those dollars that we put
last year so that's a big question mark
for me so as I go through there's going
to be some like Avid that I don't read
as highly even though I really value it
because I'm assuming
that we put those monies there already
it's one to come yeah I went to fde but
we'll we'll put that as one to do more
detail about yeah
yeah so
um and the other things are things that
weren't on this list would be additional
days which I know is a contractual issue
and we're already adding three but I
think we need to be looking to add more
as we go over time and to add those at
the beginning of the school year or not
the end of the school year so they
actually have some impact lowering class
sizes was a big one and I think that is
a very expensive option so I that would
be on my list school resource officers
and the issue now of how we're going to
deal with that given that the city
pulled back some funding for school
resource officers I think we need to
have that discussion with them and
figure out whether we meet them
somewhere
additional CTE electives in high schools
whether or not we're trying to beef up
the Benson program in some capacity
whether or not we hit our high school
instructional hours and have our kids at
a full schedule and professional
development around courageous
conversations in common core those are
things that I didn't necessarily see on
this list that I'm thinking about so in
terms of my list Athletics I did a two
especially excited about the idea of
getting Athletics into our feeder
schools and our middle schools option
two option two
oh this is interesting I may end up like
you then because I'm not sure well no I
didn't
write so we'll see if this works Avid
expansion I did a one again I have an
expectation that we did some of that
last year career related learning
college readiness if we do more CTE
electives I I only gave that a one
because I'm hoping that we're doing more
CTE electives as we go
Central support capacity and
infrastructure I did a one in particular
I want the Ombudsman back I like the
idea of the more capacity for doing
grant funding it's just a smart
investment and the development of annual
School climate surveys I think would be
particularly smart on that one
um
classified staff in schools I didn't
understand why this was only k-8s that
it seemed like we were talking about
um but I I did not add any more of that
we just added a big chunk and it wasn't
clear to me exactly what that would be
used for culturally specific supports
again my expectation is a lot of that
hopefully was done with our eight
percent funding so I did not add more
there
custodians I did option one
especially with the hope that this might
decrease over time I don't know whether
or not we're we still have a big amount
of custodial over time on the books but
that's something that I would hope this
might help to address too and give them
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a little break
deferred maintenance I did not put
anything into between the bond and the
construction excise fee it seems like
we've got some funds going there the
only exception to that might be trying
to add one or two more ground screws to
try to clean up the outside of our
building
there you go director Beale
um
discipline reduction strategies I did
option three I think that's a really
important one the early learner Regional
centers I did not put anything in here
and I don't I don't understand how that
funding works and whether that pulls
from K-12 funding or how how that works
so I need more I need a better
understanding of that before I would
do that one the early kindergarten
transition program I did option one I
really like it I would not necessarily
expand it to the early first grade
transition I would try to expand much
more broadly in the early kindergarten
transition I didn't understand why all
of a sudden we're switching it over to
be a two-year program rather than I
would rather do a blanket kindergarten
program
um
the high school support interventions I
think we're going to be hearing a lot
from the high school action teams and
hopefully would be looking at eventually
doing kind of a care team kind of model
so I gave that a three
literacy materials I put zero at this
point
middle level supports a k-8s I did a one
online blending learning one outdoor
school I I gave it a two I think this is
a really first of all it's a direct
support to middle school students it and
it supports Hands-On learning and it's
all about STEM Science technology
engineering math I I would love to see
us bring that back full-time huge Equity
issue too yes yes
family can provide that kind of thing
student technology I did it too
teacher mentors I would love to expand
so I gave that a one
and wrap around Services again having a
full-time social worker at high schools
I gave that a three
um
option three or three points option
three option three option three or three
um per episode three option three oh did
I go over now yes by two points I didn't
go over I didn't go over when I did this
last night and I still have one more so
um option three in particular if the 10
all right the only reason I would do
option three is if the 10 FTE for
additional counselors in K5 K-8 and
middle schools ensures that we have a
counselor in every single counseling
support in every single one of our
schools this just bothers the hell out
of me that we still don't have that
um
so and then my last one I think another
point would go toward sros if we
need to
meet the city part way we we got to
figure out how we have SRO support in
every High School cluster so
thanks
all right I'm sorry sros for the
audience or school school resource
officers so they're provided by the city
of Portland and it's just amazing
community policing at its finest but
those were cut back and so sorry I was
using that acronym SRO
student representative
um so first of all thank you David for
coming to Super sac and uh sort of
leading a similar discussion with us I
think it was really valuable and I
noticed that a lot of these came out of
that discussion I think so I was pretty
pleased with that
um so again a lot of my decisions had
strengths attached to them I wanted to
see how these you know were actually
coming out in a more detailed
explanation and again I would like to
see the last year's Investments as well
I think that's really important because
I would like to counter that into mine
um
and I'm really looking forward to the
high school action team coming forward I
think a lot of these will be addressed
and I think a lot of the solutions
factor into these at some really you
know affordable rates as well
um
and mine are all in points to make it a
little bit easier for
you
um so
first of all I gave two points to
Athletics
I think that's something that we just
need to be expanding I gave three points
to Avid it's a program that I've heard
nothing but good things about
um I gave Five Points to Career related
learning and College and Career
Readiness but
with the understanding that we would add
some CTE in there as well I was really
glad that we were talking about you know
Outreach and getting students involved
with the community in possible careers
but I really wanted to see that
engagement in school as well
um
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I didn't give anything to Central
support capacity and infrastructure
classified staff in schools
culturally specific supports
or custodians not because any of those
things aren't important but again I got
it to 25.
um deferred maintenance I gave a one I
think that'll again help relieve some of
the strain on custodians and again back
to director beale's point the outside
grounds and inside as well there's
things that we just need to be keeping
up on
um and that's you know going to lead
into day-to-day lives of students as
well so they can take pride in their
school
um discipline reduction strategies I
gave a one I just think that's something
we should always be working on
regardless
um early learner Regional centers I
didn't give anything to
early kindergarten program I didn't give
anything to I gave two points to high
school graduation acceleration
strategies
um that's something I'm just really
excited about but again I want to see
some more specific explanations for it I
didn't give anything the literacy and
materials I would really like to see
more specifics on that and then maybe I
could allocate some
uh Middle School level support in k-8s I
gave three points I'm really excited
about that that's when I hear from
students all the time about online and
Blended learning I didn't give anything
to again I think it's important but I
had to cut back at door school I gave
two
um
that's pretty much a no-brainer for me I
don't mean it's not just an explanation
um student technology I give a one I'm
excited by what I already see in schools
but I'm looking for more teacher mentors
I gave two
I that's a great program I I really when
we're talking about best practices in
this district and expanding those I
think that's a huge part of it and
wraparound Services I gave a three just
because in the work with the high school
action team and you know looking at
what's going to affect students directly
that's something that I really feel
passionately about so
thank you
director Buell you ready for your
numbers oh I'm okay good it's getting
late
my questions
you had one more question two more
questions for us
um just no I think you already
um let me go through them because we did
the questions
um
wonderfully and I think that was
that was exactly what we were hoping to
hear from you so things where you wanted
more clarification
um I think that
I think that was enormously helpful um
it's point of the process so thank you
for that
um I will just confirm some next
perhaps I've moved the microphone out
yes I made scrunchy noises while you
were talking
um so just to give you
um a few dates in terms of the process
I'm feeling very schizophrenic I realize
they say process and process both
um so this attempts at the budget
process for this year this is the
process we're going to go through
um we will have a
fork a budget forecast for you in the
middle of January so what we think the
year the next year will look like which
is about the same time we'll be bringing
you the formal budget amendment
the superintendent we've penciled in
proposing the budget on March 17th this
year
that's about a month earlier than last
year which was April 15th
two reasons one obviously the earlier we
can do that the sooner we can get
started on school Staffing which is a
compelling motive and it is the second
year of the biennium so we have a
greater level of certainty about the
financial picture than we would do
otherwise
that would mean that the board would be
the board acting as the budget committee
would be approving the budget in late
April and then the board as the board
would be adopting the budget in late
June so that's some sense of framework
for you
um
yeah
um when are they typically approving
their budget because late April sounds
really late I mean part of the reason
that we're
going through the discussion with the
teachers union is that we want to get
out early or
um
so that we can be sure that we can you
know get the best new teachers out there
so I'm I'm trying to understand I know
that this is
a month earlier than last year but last
year was really really late so do you
have any sense of when other districts
are
out there improving their budgets or
what other school boards are I don't
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know when other districts are proving
the budgets in terms of school Staffing
though we have always released School
Staffing immediately after the
superintendent proposes the budget
so that would be March 17th that's March
17th March 18th
so
I mean we can set we will certainly
check and see if this is the way we
could but yeah we can we can we can we
can see what other people are doing okay
okay certainly
um and then the only other thing I would
add is
um we will probably do the same exercise
with some other groups
since it worked so well with you
um and that will I think be helpful for
the superintendent and staff too in
terms of you know hearing from other
other folks what their priorities might
be
they
I proposed a system whereby we go ahead
of for a huge portion of our hiring of
every other school district in the
Tri-County area so we're not only
recruiting better but we're hiring
better I've given it to Mr
Murray I'm hoping that our
people in the HR department will look at
it
I haven't heard anything back it was
about a month ago but I think we can
hire up front with a huge number of
of employees before anybody else hires
where we get to take the crop right up
front and I'd just like to point that
out that I've talked to him about that
and hopefully we can
at least talk about it or something
thank you
we just requested co-chairs that there
be some kind of preview or discussion
around what the topics are going to be
for as we are doing our budget
discussions over the next few months I
mean I think I think each year we're
trying to refine that and work on it so
it's a using the equity lens and making
sure that the just the balance of Staff
presentation time what the topics are
and the amount of time we have for
discussion and what purpose you know
just that whole discussion I think we
talked earlier this summer about trying
to just continue to improve that so I
just before it all of a sudden is you
know February and it's happening that to
have that I don't know what that would
look like but just for you guys to just
a request for you to consult with us and
have that discussion early on while
that's being set up would be great
actually I think you gave us a bunch of
information in this conversation of
where people were interested in hearing
more and actually I'll just say back at
the beginning we gave you criteria
numbers of which you actually mentioned
when you were talking about what what
you were considering which included
um
connecting to the Milestones the racial
Equity lens the Strategic framework but
the other ones were successful program
expansion and replication so how are we
building on our own successes which
numbers have you mentioned how are we
leveraging additional resources and
utilizing our Partnerships and one of
the ones we heard in our conversations
with both leadership of our employee
groups
and super sac and Coalition communities
of color and achievement compact
committee was how are we building
schools for the future not simply
recreating the schools of the past so
it's not just going back and trying to
fill in holes of what we used to have
but really holding ourselves to what are
we trying to create for the future all
of which I thought were good
reminders of good guiding principles but
you gave us good triggers of what are
the things you want to hear more about
when we're doing budget topics I think
more information
it's not like yeah this is now like we
can we must do this or we won't do that
based on just this one discussion the
numbers of things like we want to hear
more about what happened with the
historically underserved like how did
that play out here are things that you
know really interested in it but want to
see what's the data what's our data on
Avid what's our anyway I think you gave
us a bunch of information you did great
in this conversation so thank you for
just doing the work ahead of time and
coming prepared to do the prioritizing
ago as we did a shift a year or two ago
where we
we had been doing family engagement
internally
and we are now doing some internal
family engagement staff and some
partners and I'd love to
get a sense of
how that's going and who's doing it
better or
whether we're coordinating among those
groups or I don't know what the
accountability mechanism is but I'd like
to hear more about that
and really I think I'm not only ended up
saying it was a both hand it wasn't an
either or we'd framed it as any other or
in a numbers of years ago and then we
said okay we actually need both because
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we're
we're
uh when we're doing Outreach we needed
to connect yeah we can do you we'll give
you some more detail on that one yeah
director nulls
um David I'm not sure if it was just me
or if anybody else received this but on
the attachments it has notes of meetings
with super Sac District employees but
and I didn't have none of those were
attached to my stuff
so could I get notes from all of those
I didn't have any of that I'd love to
see it okay that wasn't in your pocket
no uh that will be to you by email
um but before nine o'clock I'm not going
to read it tonight thank you thank you
but if I don't do it tonight I will
forget it so I will I will send that to
you
baby what's the timeline where we could
ask for information
like
what are all our contracts you know who
do they go to and where are they want to
see that before we get to the budget
stuff when should we start asking for
information like that
I think that's a question you should
send to the superintendent yeah I think
if you're if those questions are
occurring to you right now let's start
building the list of what information
collectively you are wanting to see yeah
that sounds great yeah
I think in years in years past we had we
kind of funneled through the finance
audit and operations committee I'm going
to say
what people's list of different
questions were and just knowing that
there's unlimited staff can only
do so much it's always that balance of
finding the information that because we
can continue to ask questions about
every single program and here's what I'm
going to give you a little added will
you direct it to me and and uh to David
both so that we're both getting them but
David will be the one that's keeping the
master list
um yeah and actually let's keep the
co-chairs too so
and we'll build what's the list because
whatever one board member is requesting
will provide to everybody so that you're
all getting the same info okay
so well I think that uh
we already talked about talking with
every board member as Ruth asked so
yeah so if we're wanting to go deep on
some different issues kind of trying to
come to some sort of consensus about
what's the short list even that we're
not going to have
an endless number of meetings do we need
to add more people
to the board no do we need to add more
people to the staff in order to get
questions answered
each of us has a fiduciary
responsibility and we're dealing with
every taxpayer's money
so there's I'm going to have a bunch of
questions and I would expect that they
would get answered I would assume that
that's the case is that we all expect
that and I think maybe we need to add
more people in order to make sure that
takes place I don't know that it's not
my job to decide that I just don't want
to get cut off uh asking questions like
I have another yeah
uh with that thank you for being here
Miss bottom League were very quiet but
thank you for taking notes and thank you
for being here the board will now
consider our business agenda Miss
Houston are there any changes through a
business agenda no
do I have a motion and a second to adopt
the business agenda so I moved
second director Knowles
moves to adopt and director Regan
seconds to adopt the business agenda
Miss Houston is there any public comment
on our business agenda no there is not
is there any more discussion on the
business agenda
all those in favor please indicate by
saying yes yes
yes all those opposed please indicate by
saying no
extensions the business agenda is
approved by a vote of six to zero with
director curler being absent and student
Representatives Davidson voting yes yes
the next meeting in the board will be
held on Monday December 9th this meeting
of the board is now adjourned
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- PPS Communications, "Board of Education" (YouTube playlist), https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8CC942A46270A16E (accessed: 2023-10-10T04:10:04.879786Z)