2012-10-29 PPS School Board Regular Meeting

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Event 1: PPS Board of Education, 10/29/12 Regular Meeting

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a 9 2012 is called to order welcome to everyone present and to our television viewers all items that we vote on have been posted as required by state law this meeting has been televised live and will replay throughout the next two weeks please check the ward website for replay times we are going to get started with our superintendents report super intense Smith thank you and actually we're starting with something that is really cool and numbers of people are here to be recognized tonight which is our exceptional new track and field that Roosevelt High School and so this is our districts first NCAA standard track it was completed last month and it's now the pride of the saints John's community and of this district and we though this exceptional project to a great many people who are part of making it happen over a great many years and a lot of persistence and a lot of ingenuity and creativity and sweat equity and it was an awesome everybody come and make it happen project and actually before I do individual recognitions I'm going to play a short bit of footage of the homecoming which inaugurated this the track and it was an awesome event where students from all of the feeder schools came and participated in the Roughriders to be in inaugurating this track so can we go ahead and see the footage and then I'll recognize our individuals alright it's a great day to be alone all right welcome rider nation ladies and gentlemen you are looking at a project worth over a million dollars and the envy of college and high school programs in the northwest come on let's give them some applause as they make it way around we are an international community we embrace everyone from everywhere welcome to Roosevelt High School we are forever indebted to your dedication and commitment to our students but we want you to know that you are appreciated in an Olympic kind of way love Roosevelt students and Families thank you please welcome the 1990 91 92 Roosevelt High School girls 400 and 1600 relay team they will then pass the torch to the presents Roosevelt Rough Riders Dave so they are all running together and they are going to pass it on to we are pleased to welcome the future Rough Riders who will join the Roosevelt alumni and curtain students as we cross the finish line and officially dedicate this alright go roughriders and runners to your marks go roughriders so we have a proclamation to the people who made it happen that we'd like to present to you this evening in September 2012 the Roosevelt High School track was completed which marked the end of the Theodore Roosevelt Athletic Complex renovation over the last several years groups of generous and tireless community members have stepped forward to help Portland Public Schools complete the long-awaited much-anticipated athletic complex because of the efforts of the Roosevelt business and school community as well as that of local and national businesses Roosevelt now boasts an NCAA track as well as a beautiful scent synthetic turf for student and community use Roosevelt High School is truly jewel of st. John's and our thanks go out to and we're going to individually present went to each one of you for your support and generosity to Portland Public Schools good as good citizens are the riches of the city and we are so grateful for your involvement in support of roosevelt high school and i will say i was able to be at the roosevelt homecoming alumni dinner and this was like such a huge huge point of pride in celebration for all of the roosevelt alumni who attended that evening to it was really wonderful to see what an awesome kind of community energy something like this build so truly thank you so first and Cameron von Tyler will you come on up and help me present the Plex Dave Anderson of Anderson construction and dave is a true community hero and this gets been told
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over and over again my multiple people he gave personally and provided labor from his business his expertise and generosity enabled us to build the best track possible he always said yes when he asked when we asked for help we are indebted to you and I'm going to ask you guys stay up here because we're going to take a picture of the whole crew once we call each one out individually norm Daniels who was an alumni of Roosevelt and it has always been his vision to see this project through he's been involved in every step of the field and track his generosity and creative ideas for partnerships have been invaluable Thank You norm and when I talk about persistence I mean it right here in norm Daniels this is our persistence Micah Johnson on behalf of st. John's safeway it's such a necessity for us to band together to help our neighborhoods thrive through safe ways generosity we've been able to complete the track and enhance for all the community to enjoy Thank You safeway Cathy web on behalf of Nike and the bowerman foundation and again Nike all the way through this project man and just like helping us pull through really points where sometimes you think it's going to happen and sometimes you don't nike helped on every one of our field projects we're so grateful for their partnership and their generosity to the district none of our high school fields to date would exist without Nikes help in planning and funding and help us figure out how the whole thing is going to come together so thank you to you and to Nike for all you do for Portland Public Schools Craig cheek who's not able to be here tonight Craig has been one of the backbones of the funding for this project through his personal support and professional support from Nike Craig has helped to make this dream a reality we're so grateful to him for all he's done for the students of Roosevelt so please pass that on Michael Bergman who has provided track expertise from start to finish his thoughtful approach to what was needed and how to get us to the finish line is much appreciated having someone on our team who has the track experience that Michael brings to this project was invaluable thank you Michael Kevin Brown behind every great athlete is someone who wants them to succeed not only in athletics but in their education and that person is kevin brown kevin has been helping to tutor athletes at Roosevelt to ensure their success on and off the field and Kevin thank you for your support Mike shrunk who all of us know he was not able to be here with us tonight but there and there's so much to say about Mike he's been a another one I would call a backbone of this project he never says know when we've asked him to help it in almost every case he's there before we ask he loves Roosevelt and his dedication to this project and lifelong support of this community has been a gift to all of us we are so much richer for his contributions to the city of Portland and to portland public school so let's do a big call out for Mike rich record also could not be here and again he was there through every part of this project put in countless hours of sweat equity into the Roosevelt project we are so grateful to him for all he's done to see the project through to fruition and again when i talk about creativity and just like how do you figure out how you make something out of nothing rich was totally Apple how do you pull things together kind of guy so they call out to rich Charlene who is not with us tonight because she is receiving a spirit of Portland award at another event but Charlene who you saw in her a gold lamay that she wears which also had matching boots if you couldn't tell that in the in the film clip but oh man talk about spirit of Roosevelt she has been incredible and Greg Newman come on up Greg it would have been an incredible leadership team in this chapter for Roosevelt High School and so I will say every great school needs vision and guidance and the two of you have just been a fabulous team along with the rest of your teammates we've been so supportive of this project and it's just making sure that we actually had it happen and put together a wonderful inaugural event that was just so inspiring and really had everybody every member of the community there to really help just know this is going to be a big community builder so thank you to all of you and just thanks for being such a great team we want to stand up and get a picture of all of you thank you for making this happen we're going to pull into this little middle part guys are coming around to do picture
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I think they can just move them around with Valley tech Drago feel for come on up here fun partner I don't know you're in thank you so much come on in here at board members man around we're going to do a little interspersed get behind evaluate maybe ok okay so thank you all for being with us for that wonderful ceremony and as I said Charlene is off receiving the spirit of Portland award and the other group that's receiving a spirit of Portland work tonight is our grand high school community garden team so yeah and as they were leaving they were our team was just saying let's get the rest of these fields done and we had another event that was one that was a grant and Lincoln cross town clash which was essentially the boys and girls soccer soccer teams wanted to beat the state record in terms of numbers of attendees at a soccer match and they did 5,000 in attendance at a high school soccer match on october 9th during a men's and women's match on the lincoln field but part of it and you will see that people were wearing red and blue t-shirts provided by nike as a fundraiser so these were limited edition they sold out and they the proceeds there you see all the blues and in a minute you added was they were great games but it was a fundraiser for the grant field so all the turn out that day went to go towards the supporting the grant filled with the idea that next year's crosstown class you'll be on the grant field so and actually we had Matt Martin and his family bobby reagan ruth adkins nick fish grant principal vivian orland lincoln principal payton chapman and the nike school innovation fund julia edwards there to cheer on the team so it was a really great event and we hope annual annual challenge lots of energy there we had 13 schools received the healthier us School Challenge Awards this year so these we had top federal food official those who honored teachers and students at Lent k-8 school and let was one of 13 of our schools to receive this award which is part of first lady Michelle Obama's let's move campaign to end childhood obesity within a generation and what this award recognizes as schools that have taken voluntary steps to create healthier environments by promoting nutrition and physical activity four percent of schools nationwide have received this award joining lent in this honor for Portland Public Schools where hourly 2k eight saves our Chavez k-8 fabien k-8 George middle school gray middle school James John k5 Lane middle school Lee k-8 Marysville k-8 Vernon k-8 vestal k-8 and woodlawn k-8 so we were really excited about this honor and we want to thank Oregon State University Extension the growing gardens program and multnomah
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county health department who have been key partners in this effort so actually one other acknowledgement I want to make is to math and science teacher Carla aster Lee who won an outstanding classroom science teacher award from the Oregon Science Teachers Association and teacher aaron thomas who got a 1700 dollar grant from chevron and donors cheese for science equipment and Whole Foods who gave Vestal at two thousand dollar grant to support at school community garden so those are all nice recognition of our teachers okay so now some an update on our enrollment which we always kind of wait until we have our official enrollment update and I'm happy to report this was another year of growth for Portland Public Schools or enrollment was up and by 200 students from up from last year to 40 7508 students which makes four years of growing enrollment and an increase of nearly 1,500 students since the 08 09 school year and again the trend is at the lower grades so we're basically doing our demographic wave and we're building up from the lower grades but excited to have double-digit growth actually in the early grade another film clip we're going to share with you is our participation in the great Oregon shake shake out which is our earthquake safety earthquake preparedness and we went over and had the students at Roosevelt share with us their experience of doing earthquake preparedness so we'll go ahead and share that film clip with you hi I'm Charlene Williams and I'm excited to start my third year here on the campus at Roosevelt as a campus principal excited to welcome our school board members and safety officials community members and Roosevelt alum on this Oregon great shakeout day today Roosevelt students and staff will conduct an earthquake drill in Portland schools take earthquake safety seriously given our seismic risk a federal grant has helped all schools develop easy-to-use emergency plans to help us respond effectively in man-made or natural disasters like an earthquake so we have our emergency school response plan that will be following and implementing today and we will also conduct earthquake drills each year along with our monthly fire drills partners like Home Depot and rose city movers have also helped to us to put together go kids so in our go kids you'll find resources for our safety drills the safety of our students is a top priority and I appreciate the work that teachers principals school districts staff have done to cannon for in practice the responses to emergencies we know from experience that he can literally save lives we saw how much this makes a difference during the fire at Marysville when students and teachers were able to exit in a safe and orderly manner without anyone getting hurt this is a unique opportunity for us as a community and it is critically important as a community that during a moment of crisis or catastrophe that we have safe places to gather as a community and our neighborhood schools are those places and we want them to be safe for the community and for our children the best investment in our public safety efforts are our children and getting our children aged a strong education and a safe place a comfortable working environment is a the best investment we can make Roosevelt's students and staff will conduct an earthquake throw like a table like a table so we're going to do right now is we're going to go ahead and practice what we would do in they will receive ten minutes of instruction conduct duck cover hold and drilled an earthquake drill right now draw our cross to the floor now during a large earthquake the brown line chart strongly knock you down well and then we practice an evacuation of the building and the value that we place in the community because our schools are the focal point for us all our schools are where we turn to in times of emergency and it's very important that we focus on what we're doing here today and I want to thank you and actually we had had a federal readiness emergency management grant that over the last two years we've had developed emergency plans for every school and had an opportunity to training for emergency preparedness with every school and what you just saw there are schools do an earthquake drill specifically twice a year so thank you to Roosevelt for doing that demonstration for us I know we're kind of getting a bunch of Roosevelt tonight but they did they've done some cool
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stuff the next thing we wanted to highlight for you is the local affiliate of Univision which is our Spanish language media company is partnering with PBS to support our goal that one hundred percent of our current kindergarteners are ready to learn by the end of third grade that because early literacy is a powerful powerful predictor of future success in school in life so they've created a public service announcement talking about the importance of reading daily with your child and using your school or like local library as a resource so we're going to play for you there p.s a public service announcement porque tu siempre seras el primer maestra de tus hijos es importante que le Teddy K's al menos quien SE minutos diaw rios para leer con ellos en voz alta dije que tu hijo es Khojaly bro peon I platica n de las fotos y paz en un rato divertido lair todo los d desidera tus hijos en la escuela porque la lectura empiezan casa y tu siempre seras su primer masti visita la biblioteca de tu escuela 02 biblioteca local and those were those were students from beach school that you saw so we want to thank Beach school for participating and thank you in a vision for working with us on doing these kind of public service announcements are totally cool so in great partnership with Univision principal for almost a day this was our 12th year of principle for almost a day and all hands raised formerly the prone schools foundation sponsors this every year for and this year for all the districts serving the city of Portland and we have business leaders who come and partner with a principal to learn about what goes on in a day in the life of a principal and in a school so the the slideshow just shows some of the part business partners who came and were part of principal for a day this year we had more than 45 of our principals hosting principal I also had a superintendent for the day Lisa Sedlar who's the president and CEO of new seasons which was really fun to do but i want to thank our principles and our board members Trudy Sargent Greg Belial Matt Martin Pam knowles and Bobby Regan who also went and participated and visited schools in other districts which I think has been a really great feature of this as well and then also a thank you to our elected officials Multnomah County Commissioner Loretta Smith state senators Richard Devlin chip shields state representative Alyssa Kenny giner Guyer and Margaret Dougherty as well as all of the business leaders who participated in this day it's a really awesome opportunity to get to just exchange ideas and also get feedback on what we're doing here ideas from the business community it was it was it's an amazing event and people come together at for lunch at the end of the day and share their stories of what they learned over the course of the day so I want to thank all hands raised for continuing to organize this every year Comcast and the Blazers or primary sponsors who make it happen and host us all at the end of the day and just a really valuable experience I don't know if any board members want to share anything about your ear days okay it was a great day it's a cold day Thanks okay and the last thing in my report I'm going to invite Michele Radel and Bonnie gray to come on up and we're going to give you a report on our higher assignment and transfer policy update so so we wanted to update you on where we are with higher assignment and transfer this year and just as a reminder back in 2009 human resources and Portland association of teachers had an agreement to help create an internal sort of interview and select process that would assist teachers and principals and having more choice in when they were unassigned and getting opportunities to be interviewed in addition it also had some other incentives that we continue to use this year we wanted to show you the data that we have and it's a little it's good news this year and part of that good news as a result of the de ditional FTE that we received really did help us we had 230 unassigned teachers originally and we had thirty two percent of them that were interviewed and selected the other category you'll see is an increase its forty five percent in the other and that it was primarily made up of teachers who were able to return to their building that they were unassigned from so eighty-nine percent of that category went back to their building and that was mostly a result of that additional FTE so that was good we reduced our place my percentage and that's always we do the interview and select process we give lots of opportunities for interviewing and posting and at at a point in time we have to move forward and get folks settled so that we can go to external hiring and this year we reduced the
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number the percent of placement to twenty-three percent over thirty percent the year before so that was good the other piece that we look really hard at is our zone one schools we had a commitment to try to minimize putting any placements into our zone one schools and this year we were able to make a lot of progress we've partnered with regional administrators and principals and this year we reduced those placements 25 and last year we were at 25 so significant improvement there which was very good and then I'll have Bonnie talk about our hiring and recruitment strategies that we did this year so in 2011 2012 we had a reported increase in probationary diversity and our probationary teachers and we wanted to speak with them so we spoke with 35 new teachers and to see what recruitment and retention strategies work for them and what is their experience in Portland Public Schools and so the slide you see here is related to recruiting our HR team and they're not here today but I want to acknowledge them for their hard work in developing relationships with our partnerships as well as going out to job fairs and really just informing candidates of our application and hiring process and that's what you see here in the next slide and you also see our percentage this year of new teacher hires at twenty percent for teachers of color and eighty percent white and our which brings up our total teacher workforce diversity from sixteen percent to seventeen percent right great kids thank you thank you and actually I will say this is one of the items that we've identified we're doing ongoing monitoring reports of things that were set in motion in previous leaders and then bringing back to the board updates on just what's the status of those things and we'll be doing these periodically so this was one of your monitoring reports for tonight's board meeting and that's the end of our board thank you thanks Michelle thanks bunny thank you gonna move on now to uh student testimony miss yu-san is airing by Sian thank you as to represent the report still representative Alexa Garcia yeah so I just like to update everyone on what's been going on in the Student Union and the superintendent Student Advisory Council so we've had two meetings so far with the Student Union and our first meeting was sort of an introductory meeting to what the student union is and we're still recruiting students so if there's any students watching or principles that want to send us students information they're still welcome to join and then our second meeting was about the school bond and just educating students on what the school bond is and we had two speakers come in Shane Endicott and Ted wolf who were both on the long range facilities plan committee and Ted talked about earthquake safety and the importance of our schools being earthquake safe and let's see Shane Endicott talked about the importance of student voice being in the reconstruction progress or process so that was really cool for students and then all students were able to share stories about their schools and there's you know funny stories about their school buildings and the current shape of them and yeah so it's just a good instructional time and then our next meeting will be november seventh and i think i focus students want to talk about nutrition and then probably the teacher evaluation tool that we're working on last year yeah so we're going to move on to public comment is earning by signed up for public comment right makes it easier to move into achievement compacts targets at our last meeting the board heard an update and held discussion or milestones and how they're going to align with the achievement compacts tonight the world will be boring on our rebuys that should make camp on targets the term achievement campaign targets are now an annual action item for the board superintendent Smith will introduce this item an actual and by Sue Ann Higgins hurler chief academic officer and Amanda Whalen who's assistant to the superintendent to come on up and be available for questions but truly the discussion about this item a curb yet at the last work session where we reviewed what the changes to the targets would be for this this year and and then so tonight is for a vote I don't know if either one of you want to add anything to that before we turn it over to the board for discussion nothing you to add
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at this time so just here's really if you have any questions questions1 it is so thank you for providing the form with all the colors because it is a lot easier to read with all the colors it's a complex and kind of confusing form but the color coding at least helps a little bit so I was just wondering why we didn't have any figures for 2011-12 sixth grade on track which is an attendance spaced goal right it's just attendance and nothing else for the 2011-12 data mark yeah but it's blank in here so I just wondered why for Joel slugs who said I was looking for Joe sorry ok so I'm could you repeat the question please I was just wondering why we didn't have any data from let the last school year on the sixth grade on track which I believe is in attendance data point but it's not in here so I I wondered why we wouldn't have it at this point I'm not sure I know the answer there let me think about that one for a minute ok then while he's looking at that I also had a question in terms of local priorities I thought that we had considered possibly keeping our writing our 7th grade writing priority that's not part of the state contact anymore right no because what went away was the ability to measure it so the statewide test in terms of our ability to measure underway lately so they took that we were relying on the statewide measure but we're working in concert with other districts who want that assessment to be returned so we're in conversation about returning it and did we look at any other kind of local priorities not at this point like one of the conversations we had is whether we would of the milestones that we'd set we just our local priority was basically to use our own targets on our existing milestones and one conversation we had as a possible was whether or not we would actually separate the sixth grade contract credit wise from the attendance measure and do them as two separate measures we ended up adopting the one of the ninety percent attendance and for the moment and using that as our milestone just for simplicity sake of people understanding what we're talking about when we talk about that milestone so we ended up just setting a higher target than the methodology on the ones that we the third grade and the on-track credit you know ninth grade truck and I can return to the previous question o de provided most of the data for the achievement compacts to districts including the sixth grade attendance one they have not updated any data at this point with the exception of Oaks data for districts and so they did not provide any 1112 data to the district's we could calculate something to put in there it probably wouldn't exactly match Odie's numbers but it would be close what we cannot do the dough de does for us is to roll up all of the data into the to the combined historically underserved group of students because they undo placate that's an unduplicated count and so we have I notice it the goal for that sixth grade on track is the same as it 2010-11 results so we raised it a percentage point for in 43 skin jude we had kept was one percentage point behind it once percentage point higher for 60 right on track okay and so that's been and so you don't have you're saying you just don't have the data from eau de from 11-12 great anchor every day has not provided so you're looking back you know to a pre two years basically it's kind of circular because we actually give the data to eau de and then they give it back to us right but they do their calculations with it okay so remember the achievement compacts that we received in May had data filled in for primarily the 2010-11 school year all of
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the additional data for 1112 has been added by us using the OD data that for the oaks test but that this is not the only things that were filled in by eau de where the 2010-11 data it wasn't issued to you around the tenants that we aren't raising it to say ninety-five percent today just because of the resource that it takes in order to get a significant increase in I mean I remember you making that point a number of times Carol so or just I mean that this at certain point a lot of this has to be reflection of the lack of investment at the state level and there's only so much more that we can do without that investment particularly around something like increasing attended significantly and I'll say so this has been a conversation it cradled a career also when we're looking at how are we have power to our partners interact with the district and if we're and cradled the cradle to career partners where we're looking at the county we're looking at our son schools we're looking at our nonprofit partners where some of what their work with us will be is around it will impact attendance and so it's a in the cradle to career set of measures which will also impact this that some of what we're looking at is the collective impact so and the impact of our partners work with us but yes we're not we are not added any additional investment to that that will impact directly unattended it isn't some of it the fact that we aren't there's not a lot of research that demonstrates that this particular milestone of this particular target has as an indicator as a great indicator of long-term success it's not that it's not but there's not as much research as third grade reading for example or tenth grade on track as showing whether or not it's an indicator of future success we were using it as a risk factor indicator so like a lagging indicator so it's one of the things we use to identify students as academic priority before they're moving into high school and largely that if you're not there you're not learning and you're more likely to be behind and actually kindergarten attendance they have shown as being a predictor of attendance the rest way through your schooling experience so there are some places where sentence has been a big impact ER and and our argument has just been decoupling it with from the academic indicators and look at them separately because they may or may not be so we had a question that came up the last time which has to do with the four-year graduation rate and we're looking at an increase of 3% rather than what we've traditionally been doing is more of a five percent marker can you remind us why we ended up at three percent rather than five percent and I'm particularly interested in terms of a historically underserved that that one's still three percent so then this was part of our discussion at the work session is that we used the methodology that was part of the white paper that we did with multiple districts that was back mapping from 20-25 what it would take for us to get to 2025 and we applied that methodology to all of our data points the two that we pulled out were the two milestones that we have been setting the five-point gain overall which was our third grade reading and are on track in the tenth grade the graduation rate we actually have not yet I mean we had not been setting targets yet we've been reporting it every year but we had not yet set targets and it's one that we said that we left at the methodology the two that we pulled out where the two that we've been doing our own milestones on to made them consistent with our milestones and so that's what that's that is what we did so is this three percent goal now a Multnomah County wide goal I'm sorry this is a Portland Public School goal or this view this agreement that is the three percent increase in achievement this is that what everyone in every district in Multnomah County put down is their goal we used the methodology which was the back map and I mail it a man to do a little more of the detail on the the methodology Amanda or Joe but we what we did was we established a common methodology for how we would establish it so it would be different from different districts depending on what your starting places because you're back mapping of how do you get from what your current number is two one hundred percent by 2025 so know everybody wouldn't necessarily be three percent is that yeah ciao high school high school indicators which are at the top we're all based on the 40 40 20 that by 2025 we would have a hundred percent of our students graduating from college and so we backed up two guys played high school so we backed up for years while we backed up to where they entered ninth grade to determine the cohort rate
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because every district is at a different place in their graduation rate as superintendent Smith indicated most districts will have a slightly different one they're all pretty closely in the ballpark of three percent but some of them might be 2.5 if they had a slightly higher graduation rate i'm not aware of who might have a lower grad rate that might have a slightly higher indicator target i think a few of the district's did have lower graduation rate targets and that was the the state sent them back to be revised so if it was one percent or less so a number of them had one percent at the time and june so i'm i'm concerned about this setting this target in this manner and when I look at her milestones framework in the front of the book I mean I third grade reading to learn is one of our targets entering ninth grade entering tenth grade on track to graduate is one of our targets and 12th grade graduate and time is one of our targets and I think for me as a board member this is very high priority our kids graduating on time and to set a goal at three percent under the methodology rather than for setting a goal more consistently with our milestones if it is really not satisfactory to me so I appreciate what you're saying but I can't support that decision to said that as our target so I be in favor of changing the target what would you change the target too I think it should we should have a goal of five points I think that's what we've agreed as a district is should be our goal and I don't I don't understand why we would decide to use a methodology in this particular place when we are not doing that consistently and I don't think that we should reduce the goals for third grade reading or entering tenth grade on time to graduate but I certainly don't think that that we should send our goal that low for our car are graduating on time but it at five percent we're still not reaching that that graduation on time right what I'm what I'm wondering is we're looking at a we're looking at a goal based on a formula that says by 2025 were a hundred percent graduation is that right so the five per cents going to get us there earlier but it's still not you will ya of course that's a good thing um but why not ten percent more well with blue we have said in the past a five percent bull and last year's at first well not actually last year but the results that we have 4 plus 2010-11 it did move by eight percent a significant improvement so x at the point that we were picking the five point percentage point gain and five percent narrow percentage point narrowing of the gap as our targets what we had done was look at other districts across the country and like Road prize winners what was what was an amount that was both achievable but also a stretch and so that's where we came up with our five and we did it on the and we had set it on three milestones which were the third grade the seventh grade writing and the tenth grade on track and we hadn't actually said it for the graduation rate yet because we didn't believe that our strategies were going to start to kick in until we had students who got hit the other milestones so this past year was and we would have been reporting on it but we actually hadn't set the target which is part of why we said we stuck with the two that we'd set we could certainly go ahead and apply the same methodology and do it on the high school graduation rate and I totally take your point but that's that was what our thinking was when we set this if in fact we go back and do that are you direct us to go back and move this one to the five percent then we'll go back and recalculate because it will impact all the back sheets on it as well but we go back and could go back and calculate for what it means to do the five minute but the five percentage point was really doable and a stretch is what it was and we were trying to do a realistic kind of a target that's something that we have a shot at actually achieving and that is it is a bit of a push beyond what would be a standard hope for what kind of you could achieve it in speaking to the why not ten percent why not a hundred percent I mean it becomes though okay how do you do goals that we really are you are moving us where we want to get to and that we have the hope of achieving them
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but that are pushing us beyond what a normal trajectory would be so I'm curious about those back pages and the the aggregate of a three percent increase is one thing but what does that look like and I know this is probably information that you may not have at your fingertips but what does that look like based on primarily historically underserved communities do we have right here there you go nevermind I'll come back well that's looking at that what does it what did the back mapping entail is it just taking the percentage and just going back and that and is that it or did we look at other things in the back mapping i'm particularly looking down at the ninth grade on track being at 75 and sixty-four percent and wondering are we looking at how that is changing as we move forward so that I mean that's ten percent that's several percentage at ten percent percentage points higher than the four-year graduation rate so I'm just was trying to get an idea what other kinds of things you were looking at other than just saying know if we want to get to one hundred percent by 2025 then we have to do this percentage each ears or was at it so Joe can answer the back mapping question but the just the ninth grade on track goal is is a five percentage point gain so that is beyond what the methodology would have had us do so that I think that would have had us at seventy-three percent I think and we added two more percentage points to be in line with the way we had set targets for the milestone because that was this ninth grade on track was what we were counting as the anti on track to graduate and comparable to our tenth grade on track milestone so if you look at the ninth grade on track and it's what is it seventy-five percent and sixty-four percent do you then move that forward to see what it's going to look like four years from now when they're actually graduating I mean are we looking at in four years of seventy-five percent graduation rate then so here's that I mean that's because at three percent a year that's just about here's what I think is that I think this will be exactly the kind of conversation that happens with our achievement compaq Advisory Committee this year so part of the conversation with the state this being the first year of doing this is this becomes our baseline data and the things that then become unique to a district like what strategy are you employing and so what kind of result like exactly what you're speaking to Pam I think would be the kind of conversation like one of the things we talked about having our achievement compaq Advisory Committee do is go through the methodology and go through here are the recommendations that and the conversations that were had and figuring out how to tackle this in year one but then I think you start getting more district specific of what are the strategies what kind of things are you expecting are going to come out of our strategies and make further recommendations about how do we how do we tackle this next year so that group come back comes back to you before februari first this year to say here are the things we'd tweak about whatever we did this year and those kind of things I think are exactly what we'd be talking about so I guess I come at it from a slightly different perspective one of really frankly not feeling too confident about the state's process and just given things like the Oei be not showing up for the recent community forum I think one member showed up how incredibly disrespectful that is and just the way this whole thing is gone and sort of in an absence of investment so to me I would prefer to D to have our more of an internal aggress I mean we are going full steam ahead and increasing the graduation rate and have that be our internal and if we want to set up board milestone you know super intense sumerton and board milestone goal that's that's more aggressive than that's great but I really to me frankly just with my level of distrust in this process and the the hoops that the state is putting districts through without providing the investment and and then the amount of faith has puts in our legislature is a hard one for me to swallow so I would prefer to be more conservative within this flawed framework and the situation that the state is putting us in law just and and and but keep are more aggressive goals as you know as your team and is us PPS and kind of and I understand that we also in there was only so many parallel multiple scoring things that we can that you have the capacity to handle particularly when you keep having to cut your team but to me I would be more comfortable with that I just don't put my faith I know that we have to do what we have to do that the state is imposed
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on us but I would much rather really have the conversation around what we're doing for kids and a more meaningful arena which is with us in our immediate district partner so that's my take on it so I totally hear what you're saying but I just I don't want to have this be the context where we have that more aggressive goal and I think that's what I tried to kind of say at the last meeting which is that I'd like us to have another goal that is internal and more aggressive being the five percent I would hope at least for the graduation rate and so I was hoping that we would maybe identify that within our resolution for in like in our milestones or meaning on here I'm not sure I care as much whether it's in the state one what I do care about is that we set in stone and publicly say this is our milk or our milestone yeah and right now that's not in our resolution so I I'm not sure that I can vote YES on what's here in this achievement compact unless we have something in our resolution that kind of sets in stone that that we are shooting for more than this and that we do have a stretch goal and that that's what we are we need to try to get to and heck I could vote no just because I don't believe the state's going to really invest in education you know I mean seriously we could uh pass we could have a split vote on this yeah because they they're presenting something to us that is flawed on so many levels so so I mean I look at all of the words so I mean one of the biggest concerns I have about this too is that it's not just the three percent for graduation but it's when we look at our historically underserved rate and only having a three percent goal there any one of the things that we have done over the years is we've had our goal and then we've had our kind of narrowing of the gap goal and that's not reflected in here at all which is even a bigger concern to me so I I guess I'm much more comfortable with the way we've been doing it and the way this is presented here and this doesn't feel like the kind of stretch that our community expects of us and that we have expected ourselves there's our that's why I'm struggling with it can somebody speak to that cuz I remember that coming up in one of our earlier conversations about it and that this historically underserved number is very different than the one we've been using so can somebody talk about how it's an aggregate and what who's all included in that and why it won't it doesn't make sense to still speak about it as a as a five percent gain and a five percent closing of the gap because i remember being concerned about that you're asking for the definition of court historically i deserve it okay that's part of it and I'm can you talk a little bit about how it's different about how the number is different compared to what we're using sure last year I think largely because this is now a statewide achievement compact and we have a lot of smaller districts across the state there's a desire to be able to reflect the historically underserved students and because of the small cell size if they're able to roll that up to a new category than a lot of districts can at least include them at some level in their data and so the definition now is that that group includes special ed students ll students pre reduce new eligibility students and then the racial historically underserved racial ethnic ethnic groups African Americans Hispanic Native American Pacific Islander and I think that's it multi is not included multi is currently a nation as a nation so they're rolled up together and that's an unduplicated counsel students appear in more than one of those categories they're only counted one time that of course is different from what we've done with our milestones is to present the data for all of the at least the racial ethnic groups we haven't recently done it for the other demographic groups of students but and then we've talked about the largest the gap the largest gap between white students in the lowest performing racial ethnic group the other thing that we don't get as part of the compacts are the data for white students so it's not called out separately so our ability to measure the gap and that way we can there goes back to my earlier comment about oh de providing the data they are removing the duplicates and doing some stuff to it though sometimes we're able to sometimes we're not so it's not entirely under our control whether we can pop in the numbers for example for sixth grade attendants that are missing and be confident that it would match something that Eau de produces so would we still be continuing for our milestones we would continue to disaggregate and report the way we have
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been doing it so we had the double effort is there any way is that we're going to keep doing our milestones how we've been doing our we're trying to make this match and use the same language in the same measure so we're not confusing but we're going to still do our five point overall and five point narrowing of the gap and responding to director Regan's comment I'm wondering whether or not we would want to do a separate resolution that is affirming our milestone targets becoming year and not mix it up with the achievement compact but do like direct us to prepare a resolution that is saying the five-point gain five point now think of the gap in include the graduation rate in that so that we're then calling out those three and affirming putting a stake in the ground that this is our expectation of our milestones in the coming year but keep this as one document that is our thing which is daily then and that we're setting our own and again we were really saying we want to be able to measure these progress in this way over time and we're going to keep those targets until we get air which I feel like we've been really persistent in that statement and affirming that with a resolution would be a good thing I think that sounds great I mean I I am eager and excited become less cranky with a state once they actually follow through and provide some investment and show that they're dead actually I'm interested in true reform but until that point to me this is a compliance thing that I feel very bad that staff is having to devote so much freaking time to pardon me but anyway so um so I like that decoupling so I think that would be great because I definitely want to have a more vigorous and meaningful and I know you guys can come up well we have it we have our milestones and the and the very simple clear chart and roles within those so I think that's the way to go and have this just be this piece that we have to do for the state so just wanted to check I mean because I usually we have the discussion after the resolution has already been introduced but i wanted to because there were some questions i think wanted to make sure that we got those out of the way but i think you know super intense but i mean i think that was i was going to try to touch back in regards to the process because in some ways i mean i think this is in essence i think part of the compliance that we're trying to do with the state and I think the resolution regards to boarding with whether people are come from voting for it or not i mean i think or making that statement as to state whether adequately funded or the goals that being high enough but also I think questioning in regards of the methodology I think you know that would definitely keep us from from what and we're running another that's to me I think important the other part is also s important i think is making sure that whatever process that we have embarked on for the past few years and that and that those targets that we had set that we are firm those targets in a way but not to necessarily mix them up right at this point in time agree but soon right in and sooner rather than then later to reaffirm those to set you know a i think is I think director Sarge's has mentioned I think more and I think director Warren even worse so is more I guess the higher targets in that sense in amore communicating i think the urgency of us getting to a higher level you know sooner than 20 25 I think would be important I think for us as a district to make and I think that in terms of the the the milestones i think is getting us on in that process but perhaps we haven't communicated as clearly to the public and stuff and then we can engage i think with a with the state on this other oil component particularly if there is a a a difference in regards to how to which students are being counted in white in which way and if the data is not a desegregated in a way that says okay you know the achievement gap and the closing the gap is also with particular groups and trying to bring those up and setting those goals which is not necessarily something that the state is doing at least not on my reading of this document and that we can say if you you know they can set you know closing the gap also as part of that i don't know if that's I was trying to see how we're going to move this thing you know in one of the ways that we can move is by introducing the resolution so and then figuring out whether there's going to be at members of their resolutions or for some other things but i would like to consider in a motion to introduce this resolution for 671 resolution to revise 2012-13 achievement compact targets do I have a
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motion in a second director knows moves and director atkin seconds the motion to adopt resolution for 671 is there any public comment on this resolution so let's continue with the discussion see what we want to do with this can I suggest a possible amendment that perhaps we could ask our general counsel to write up as we're talking but if we did on the resolution part sis on page 20 the resolution itself if we add it under the resolution you know either a number three or number two that said something like the Board of Education Direction superintendent to develop milestone targets that continue to rely reflect a five-point gain and again however we would worded an achievement and a five-point narrowing of the gap for use is an internal milestone to ensure you know to reflect the fact that we plan to continue to use that as our target or something like that would that be a possibility so can I offer another thought on this one is I'm like I'm my vision was to do two separate things one where we keep the achievement compact pretty clean that it's our compliance relationship of the state and this is the resolution with whatever we're saying our targets are in that and then a second thing that is our own internal that is a resolution that we bring back to you that is a here are the targets we're sitting on our miles for the next year but but doing something in this one that's about that that's approving a document with one set of numbers but then doing a backup statement in it that's a different set of numbers feels like we're we're muddying the water between the two so I would just think due to two separate things would be my thought but I get you want I get one of them at the same moment as you're doing it because we're making clear we're setting our own internal target i'll just say from my point of view saying that we're gonna have a separate target which is for the exact same data point who doesn't make any sense to me mm-hmm i think we should keep our mouths on this framework and our and the way that we talk about particularly the way we talk about decreasing the gap but why we would have we'd set a target here and then set a separate target it doesn't make sense to me so from from my point of view you know the board is supposed to be adopting these as our targets and even in light of the frustration of all the you know time and energy we're spending on figuring this stuff out I can't support this target and I think it's just a critical target that our district and our board are trying to move and this is is not satisfying to me so if you want to leave it that way then that's that's fine but I can't I can't support it yeah don't forget what you couldn't support it but I think I don't support the way the state is doing the achievement compacts so this is the same exact goal we're talking it's still it's within the context of how they're framing and how they're conducting the whole process and it's boarding motoring on a legitimate to me I mean we'll see what happens with the legislative session so to me it's just there's no to me the genuine reform the genuine change is going to happen with us and our milestones and the work that carols doing with other districts not in the context of the achievement compact maybe that'll change maybe that'll recklessly become something meaningful but it's not to me so I totally get in respect that you would want to vote no on this and can vote on it but this isn't this isn't meaningful to me and it's so here's what I'll tell you too I'm fine having it's a moving this to the five and match our milestones also so like this one's really then this is exactly the conversation I think was art would have been our work session conversation that would have sent us back to come back to you with a finished document this time because because it'll recalculate everything on the whole document if we go back and change change them which we will do we will do but then I think we're coming back to you again at another meeting where you're looking at it again as opposed to on so like if we decide we want to do that then send us back and I think we're coming back and bringing you back a new document second if we set goals I mean what happens when districts don't make their goals what yeah that's what we don't know the answer to yet this was part of why we were saying we were doing conservative on a compliance document and setting goals as they we don't know the answer to that yet and they don't know the answer to that yet so it's part of how we're evolving yes Amanda the we we set that goal so back in June we an awesome solution we stated that we would resubmit in October when the state
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sent back achievement compacts they asked for revised targets I think October 15th so and we said we'd already planned for this morning to be our approval moment right did they send ours back or no they did it well we had said that we would be revising our targets based on more recent data so they understood that we would be doing this we claimed that at the front end so we didn't get asked to do it because we'd already said we were going to do well in director sergeant I guess I appreciate your comment about it doesn't make sense to set to target which is actually my biggest concern is that now we're tracking milestone data and now we're tracking achievement compact we don't get to define these like how we do these numbers we get to define our milestones which is why I think it's important that we continue to track that but I don't get to go to the state and say well we like our achievement our milestones better so we're going to just use that and because the numbers are significant calculated differently enough I'm less less excited about changing these numbers to match our mind the graduation data isn't mean that the historic underserved figures are but they guys sure daddy is yeah it also feels a little bit strange to say okay well we'll just take them all the we'll take our ninth grade ninth graders and just raise that five percent and will we're not sure what to do with the historically underserved one specifically we are trying to close that gap and so we don't have that data historically and so feels weird to move one up and then let the historically underserved stay the same how much does it change and I guess I appreciate what director Adkins is saying is that we're just not sure the consequent we're building this plane the state quite admittedly as building this plane as we're flying it and so I think it's good to be thoughtful about the process and I don't hear unthoughtful on thoughtful comments but jumping to a higher number when I think that we have a mechanism I actually again worry about setting two targets because when I think our community that's not paying that close of attention is going to get confused your milestone your compact achievement the second piece is that it actually adds bureaucratic central office time to run two separate sets of numbers and to try to figure it out when we're an environment where everybody says cut central administration and so adding these pieces concerns me at the same time it's the only way we know if we're going to make progress so I think there's a real difference between a compliance document which is what the achievement compacts are and our our strategic drivers of how we're driving our work which is our milestones so like I think that's the way I can think of it and we're not like we're going to drive our work to accomplish our milestones because that's what we've been using to drive our work and we're going to be held accountable in a from the state with the achievement compact it's our compliance document with the state and our and and like I can do either one on you on this if you believe that you want to reflect both and we're whipped in the you know you want those two to be consistent but there are two different kinds of statements that we're making and one is you know one that we're using to drive strategically and the other is compliance and when I was hearing is that the district girl is going to be doing her team we're going to be doing both anyway we are you doing both anyway so it's not like it could save you know abandon one or the other of the the milestones calculations or all these this form here so we're going to be doing it anyway and we can choose if we if we choose and I hope we will choose a more aggressive target for our milestones maybe a really aggressive you know who wouldn't have that discussion that that's what we focus on with the community and until such time as this becomes more meaningful at the state level then yeah it's a compliance but it's not you know I would like to hear what they have to say about how they're going to make this meaningful but we can talk a lot ourselves and really put that focus on the milestone space so I guess obviously I don't have any problem with it being a separated thing and I'd rather I'd rather be more thoughtful about the milestones and have that be a separate piece from this yeah I think I think with me um a comments from director sergeant enduro Regan are resonate with me because they that I haven't been satisfied with our graduation numbers for a long time and I think probably a number of us I can say that too on the other hand comments around this being a compliance document actually makes a lot of sense too because we're this is probably one document of hundreds roughly that we have to provide all asking for different different numbers depending on the funding source depending on the jurisdiction sort of welcome to working with government jurisdictions but but none of them have really any
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relationship or bearing on our milestones and what our stores strategic goal is with this district that is the aspirational goal that is that that is the the stretch goal and I think that to echo what you were saying director Atkins I think that is what we need to really be focusing our time on a compliance document like this would because right now we have no indication that that's anything this is anything more than than that but a compliance document like this I think is something that we need to provide just as we provide every other statistical piece of information to other funders I like to stay in this case so I would be in support of how it is written I think it's nowhere near a document that we should be satisfied with but I think we've already we've already established that we're pretty unsatisfied with our graduation rates I'm pretty unsatisfied with their achievement gap and that's why we're focusing our efforts and our resources into those particular pieces i also i also want to quickly say to and this is just blaring to me we're always going to going to run up against too few resources and the fact that even with this quality educational model at the front part of this compact clearly stating that work i know that the next year's budget is looking at over 100 million dollars less than what what we would need to be able to achieve it really speaks to the tenacity of this district to get things done with a lot less so i wanted to mention that because i know you would you would commented on creating goals that were achievable and what we could accomplish based on based on the resources available and stretch so like I think we're doing ones that are achievable but that also are a stretch goal which is what our milestones are meant to be they're not just like okay bye normally doing business same old same old you get there they're they're all ones that stretches so we want one of our big problems is that we don't understand what the consequences are going to be of this and clearly it would seem that any of this should be stretch goals and that the state would be supporting us in trying to do stretch goals but they're not giving us any support at this point that we can tell at all so yeah I I will happily support our milestone work and and help in any way I can and grafting or doing whatever we need to do with that but I I can't I can't live with just when I want to have one conversation sorry corrected my sense i mean i think that there are some some concerns in regards to the document in regard to the hawk was you know compliance and also the in regards to targets that are there are visible at least interest in this document nonetheless there is and at least that i hear a majority of all the folks expressing a a wanting to change the targets at the you know on this thing today but and also i think that there is a an interest i think in regards to the whole milestones and making sure that we have something much more visible again not necessarily attach this to this thing today so rather than continue the discussion in regards to this i think that i would like to to call for a boat on on on this resolution 4671 at this point understanding that they are the post is not doesn't speak necessary to that to the work that the staff is done in regard to this document in order to thee to the intent in regards to this this thing for us to to to increase you know it higher rates graduation rates but to be conscious in regards to that there's been a compliance document this also be in a document which is a starting document i think at least another relationship within this new framework with the district and in one in which putting things in writing in particular when there is not known lira guards to what are the consequences of how these things is going to be evaluated i think its is troublesome at least four from what I heard from some of the comments so you know having said that I think you know we are hoping that that staff will come back with you know again whether it's a resolution or a quarry discussion in which we can reaffirm I think our commitment to increase those
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higher graduation rates at a higher pace will be important so the board went out bottom resolution for 671 all in favor please indicate by saying yes yes all posts please indicate by saying no no resolution for 671 is approved by a bottle for 23 which to represent the Garcia boating No thank you again as you can see there is there are some concerns and so we hope to continue this discussion thank you for your presentation the board will now consider the remaining items of its business genda have a word important resolution for 671 miss yu-san already any changes to the business agenda do I have a motion a second to dot the business agenda summer director Reagan moves and director sergeant's seconds the adoption business genda is no sense in coming you said right so the poor una Bowden is early board discussion on business the ball now who bought on the business genda all in favor please indicate by saying yes yes all the post base indicate by saying no the business agenda approval by a boat of 720 with still representing us yet boarding the next meeting of the board will be held on November fifth 2012 at 6pm this meeting is adjourned thank you


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